https://twitter.com/CuffyMeh/status/867489274459037698
As Twitchy told you, the CBO’s new report on the AHCA has liberals flipping their lids.
Mary Katharine Ham has plenty of experience when it comes to losing health insurance coverage. Thanks to Obamacare, she lost hers — multiple times. But just like so many liberals have never been keen to acknowledge all the people who have been hurt by Obamacare, this tweeter doesn’t seem to be in the mood to hear Ham’s side of the story on CNN:
@jaketapper @CNN @mkhammer Can we get a disclaimer when Mary Katherine Ham talks?
— yoyoyoyo (@yoyoyo4evr) May 24, 2017
You want a disclaimer? Here you go:
Here's your disclaimer: Mary Katharine Ham is the only person on set who has been in Ocare indiv. market & experienced its costs & problems. https://t.co/7FenU3BR58
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
Damn. But she wasn’t finished yet:
I'm in ACA market, w/pre-existing condition. Before ACA, I was denied insurance for 4 yrs. AHCA waivers would legalize that again. HORRIBLE!
— John Tymus (@JohnTymus) May 24, 2017
That's factually untrue. Thanks for playing.
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
But 1 data point isn't science, it is anecdotal evidence that can be very misleading. Things GOPers don't know since they rejected science.
— Speculawyer ??-American (@speculawyer) May 24, 2017
You're right. Good thing I have both. https://t.co/1MD96bq8gA
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
https://twitter.com/ImpeachTrump111/status/867486226798043136
No, it's not.
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
What they ought to do is pair you with an ACA beneficiary
— Brian Rosenwald (@brianros1) May 24, 2017
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More than happy to. Unlike many Ocare supporters, my criticism of law never denied there are beneficiaries as they denied those who lost. https://t.co/aQaradI1Ru
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
But you bragged about yout anecdotal data so I don't believe you are a good objective analyst of the system.
— Speculawyer ??-American (@speculawyer) May 24, 2017
I also cited a study and the average increase. Both things!
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
Neat trick. When I predicted Ocare weaknesses in '09, I was "liar" w no standing bc not affected. Now, insufficiently objective bc affected. https://t.co/RzRQt9GrWI
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
Amazing how that works.
AHCA waivers don't "legalize" denying pre-existing conditions. Guaranteed issue untouched. A priced-out argument is fine, but his pt untrue.
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
My issue is with her going in front of millions to tell her story as a way to discredit and bash ACA. That was her purpose.
— Mihir Shah (@mihirshah4578) May 24, 2017
I also cited hard numbers & have, accurately, since 2009, during which time my predictions have come true over and over again.
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
I have standing both personally and factually. More than many who lied for years to pass Obamacare and then to prop it up.
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
True story.
No, your mistake was choosing to focus on your specific situation. You did that not me. Take some personal responsibility.
— Speculawyer ??-American (@speculawyer) May 24, 2017
I actually don't even think I talked about my specific situation today. I cited a study.
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
https://twitter.com/ImpeachTrump111/status/867494220076023808
No, I don't. I conceded the priced-out argument is a fair one to make, but I like to be precise and you don't.
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
Word to the wise: Don’t mess with the Hammer.
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Update:
Ham’s still got more to say:
I was technically half-wrong. But without pricing mandate, there's zero market incentive for insurer to not price me out. Market fails me.
— John Tymus (@JohnTymus) May 24, 2017
Yes, this is a conversation I can have. There is a high-risk pool in the bill funded at $130 bil that would be a recourse.
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
It is totally fair to ask whether and how well that would work. But it's different than "legalizing" denying insurance & leaving it at that.
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
Then bill also doesn't change facts and benefits of continuous coverage.
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
https://twitter.com/CORredbank/status/867500865049047040
No, for years my family has been unsubzidized on Ocare exchanges.
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
So, why are you busting balls then? Maybe you should take personal responsibility for listening?
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
I think you are all missing his point. He knows how it was b4 w/pre-existing so if the #AHCA passes he will be back where he was or worse
— Stephanie McAtee (@stefernans) May 24, 2017
I understand his point. Please follow conversation between us for more. We're discussing what's actually in bill & it's not what you imply.
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
I don't watch TV, I responded to your tweet.
— Speculawyer ??-American (@speculawyer) May 24, 2017
Oh, good. Then you were TOTALLY FAIR AND RIGHT to assume that was the whole of my argument. You're a good-faith interlocutor if ever was 1.
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
What, your pocketbook was affected? SAD.
— yoyoyoyo (@yoyoyo4evr) May 24, 2017
May I suggest "F YOU YOUNGSTER" is a self-defeating pitch for a system that needs many young & healthies & can't get them bc of prices? https://t.co/LpLUF6SeJ7
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
Obamacare (ACA)isn't crashing on its own.Trump/GOP withholding payments 2 insurers, Aetna scheme, GOP refusal 2 regulate ins/pharma costs
— Melody #EndGunViolenceNow? (@MsDuhMeanor) May 24, 2017
Wait, I thought it wasn't crashing at all. Tough keeping those talking points straight.
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) May 24, 2017
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