In light of the disturbing — and now officially confirmed allegations against actor-comedian Louis C.K., Hollywood’s complicity in — and enabling of — rampant sexual predation looks even worse. The question people keep asking over and over is: How could they allow this to get so bad? This 2015 exchange between the Daily Beast’s Marlow Stern and comedian Aziz Ansari really sheds some light on that:

Hmmm.

It’s not clear what — if anything — Ansari knew about Louis C.K. back then, but that was a pretty dramatic about-face.