Here's an old tweet from Jen Rubin where she says it's not off the record if the journo doesn't agree to it

Greg P. | 10:08 PM on September 17, 2021

An old exchange between Jen Rubin and Eli Lake shows that she knew that her conversation with Politico was not off the record unless the journo interviewing her agreed to it:

It's not off the record for the journalists you don't invite to the off the record meeting http://t.co/uiDwY7Cd6G

— Eli Lake (@EliLake) February 22, 2013

@EliLake or even those who dont agree to be otr

— Jennifer 'pro-voting' Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) February 22, 2013

Rubin and the NYT’s Maggie Haberman also got into it on Twitter after Haberman accused her of not knowing how journalism worked:

For the uninitiated – and the initiated pretending they don't know because it's a fun way to slam a reporter – off the record is an agreement. Don't send an email saying OTR – especially when you're ostensibly in journalism! – and not wait for the reporter to agree

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) September 17, 2021

This is really basic stuff, and folks in the current White House – many of whom have long experience dealing with reporters – know this.

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) September 17, 2021

People can take issue with the timing of a story or the subject of a story. But suggesting the reporter did something nefarious when the person didn't follow the way OTR works is wrong.

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) September 17, 2021