MSNBC's Chris Hayes agrees that single-payer can lead to 'abominable mis-management/waits, shortages'

Then why are left wingers so hellbent on giving us a single-payer system?

Ezra Klein '07: VA "unquestioned leader in American health care… short wait times and high consumer satisfaction." http://t.co/0gw1gxn5UR

— Philip Klein (@philipaklein) May 22, 2014

@chrislhayes I think there should be an honest grappling with these tragic failures for single-payer advocates. We see similar things w/ NHS

— Philip Klein (@philipaklein) May 22, 2014

@chrislhayes Prob is that liberals often point to horror stories in U.S., and see socialized systems as inherently more humane

— Philip Klein (@philipaklein) May 22, 2014

@philipaklein I'm not sure "inherently." I think the actual comparative evidence suggests they are.

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) May 22, 2014

@philipaklein @chrislhayes because they are!

— Mike Cohen (@mcohen2) May 22, 2014

If liberals and conservatives used the same definition for the word “humane” there would never be another debate over partial birth abortion.

The biggest problem with the health care debate is we’re arguing about policy while we’re only pretending to have the same goals.