This certainly falls under the “you can’t make this stuff up” category:

From the Navy Times:

Vice Adm. Ted “Twig” Branch, director of naval intelligence, and Rear Adm. Bruce Loveless, director of the Information Dominance office, have been hamstrung since November 2013, when their high-level clearances were suspended amid an investigation into their ties to “Fat” Leonard Francis, the Malaysian contractor at the center of the largest bribery scandals in Navy history.

Branch, who has less access to secrets than an ensign, has retained his job heading the Navy’s intelligence gathering and assessment, despite his inability to see much of the work they produce.

According to the story, in a letter sent to Navy Secretary Ray Mabus, Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., has asked what effect this “might have on the Navy’s operational effectiveness.”

https://twitter.com/laborcz/status/693140597834645504

  • kennyraisin

    People with no intelligence have been looking at intelligence for years. The effect is the same in the end.

    • DevilDocNowCiv

      ken,

      No, its not. It’s easy for the almost 99% of Americans who have no direct or family knowlege of the military pooh pooh it as nothing vital as long as no war is going on, because after all, we’ve survived scandals in the past. Fact is, ken, just because an incompetant person can survive for a career doesn’t mean that no damaga has been done. Institutionally, all bureaucracies, military and not, work to cover up screw ups.

      This is a glaring mess, with the only comparable example imperial, pre-commie Russia with its massively corrupt government. This speaks directly to Obama. and also to how our media covers for Dems. If this was under a Repub pres, we’d have a special prosecutor and several cable channels counting down to an impeachment, and asking “what did the President know, and when did he know it?”

      • kennyraisin

        Well, can’t disagree with any of that. My Navy career goes back to the when the USSR was still around. I still remember when the Snoopy team was called to the bridge and everyone else had to go inside the skin of the ship because we came across a “fishing trawler” with 47 antennas off the coast of Florida.

        • DevilDocNowCiv

          Well, ken, we’re going to have probably Trump, Cruz or Rubio to take down Hillary and restart our current mil. And to shiver your timbers, recall this from the debate – Rubio said that he saw Hillary promise at a talk that she would make Obama a supreme court Justice. Lord! If that isn’t enough to get us out to vote, I dont know what is.

          • Grumpy Granny

            Can I vote a dozen times? Can I , huh? (O darn, I just remembered – I’m an honest Repbulican.)

          • Tessa from Texas

            Just don’t die before the election or you will 100% be voting for the Dim candidate.

          • Grumpy Granny

            I’m trying to stay healthy.

          • dickG

            “Trying” just isn’t good enough!
            .

          • DevilDocNowCiv

            Grump,

            Tessa asks you not to die too soon. If you lived in Chicago, where I was born, and you died, they’d use your vote for Hillary. They laugh about such corruption there-they almost take pride in it.

            And Obama has defended in court, and won, the right to use Federal voter registration forms that do NOT require proof of citizenship. You just check a box for y/n citizen. Think Dem groups wont sign up a thousands, even millions of illegals as registered voters?

            So yes, Grump, please join me in voting for whoever we nominate to defeat Hillary.

          • Grumpy Granny

            I’d even write in my dog’s name before I’d help Hillary. Unfortunately too many libs have moved to CO.

          • DevilDocNowCiv

            Grump,

            Aren’t they all stoned, tho? Their dream of legal weed may be our salvation. “Hey, bro, did we vote? (bro) Huh? Pass that over, man.”

          • Grumpy Granny

            I don’t know, but frankly I voted to legalize weed after serving on a jury. Law enforcement arrested a young kid for dealing, but according to the witness, the big dealer who sold the stuff to the kid walked away minutes before the arrest.. It appeared the officers had no interest in him. (Job security?)

            Being from Chicago, you should know how well Prohibition worked.

          • DevilDocNowCiv

            Grump,

            First, I mean no disrespect to you, or others who exercise their right to vote just because they disagree with me. My reason is that weed is not on par with booze as a social norm. Weed is a norm for a minority, and I remember a craze for both weed and cocaine when I was in high school (grad ’77) and in a party college. It was out of sight in high school, but known of. It was flagrantly in use in campus, and on Halloween on a “college street” called Illinois avenue, which the cops blocked off from cars and locals with sawhorses and cops. Bonfires, smoking, and public drinking and carousing ensued. This was an era when President Jimmy Carters “Drug Czar” recommended Cocaine legalization – way “pre – rock.”

            Even on a lower strength weed than we have today, I saw it take a toll on a group I hung around with. They didn’t mind that I just drank beer, because I didn’t “mooch” and did share. And I was a lightweight drinker, so I had a fairly easy time of it. I saw my friends impoverished compared to me with their weed purchases, and a couple became human driftwood.

            The human driftwood issue is worse now, with so many distractions from a life of deferred gratification, and so few mentoring our youth in that direction. And if we don’t embrace this new (to many who would otherwise not indulge, or only dabble illicitly and occasionallly) recreational drug along with booze, we save lots of people from it.

            And legalizing doesn’t stop the war on drugs-meth, rock, horse, percs, spice, and a slew of ongoing newly created ones. On the bright side, your state has the right to go its way along with others, so does FL (mine) which is holding out. So Grump, again, I don’t imply a right to rule you or CO. This is supposed to be a 50 State opportunity to experiment, after all.

          • dickG

            If you were a dead democrat, you could vote as many times as you like, in as many places as you like,.
            .

          • interestedobserver2

            Only Dems are allowed to do that. Preferably dead ones, so they can’t tell anyone about it.

            You know, if the Dems took as good care of our national security as they do with their own vote fraud security, we’d have won the war on terror half a decade ago…

          • kennyraisin

            I don’t think being in the Supremes will provide him with enough attention or money.

          • DevilDocNowCiv

            ken,

            He could glory in being more of a world wide celebrity than now, and being lauded in the legal world as he would otherwise never be. So yes, he would have attention. More than either of us can now imagine.

            Also, idealistically, he is part of the “critical legal studies” family of legal thought. This is a hugely PC Lib idealistically radical school of law. Along with racial ideological ideas that he expressed prior to running for Pres, the SCOTUS would give him partners in current and future other lib Justices to “go there.”

            As far as “enough money,” he’s already a multimillionaire, and his wife’s family is comfortable. So he already has the money.

            The next Pres, especially if a “two term-er,” is expected to get more than one pick. So please stay motivated, ken, and join me and trying to drag at least one like minded Repub voter to the polls with you in Nov.

        • Roto ✓Intentionally Left Blank

          Now, that “fishing trawler with 47 antennas” has a U.S.-funded port just 90 miles off the coast of Florida, thanks to President Nitwit.

  • Doc Farmer✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

    I’m not surprised. It’s part and parcel of a basic in any intelligence structure – COMPARTMENTALIZATION! Sure, it’s probably ironic as hell, but it does make sense…

    • Brian Hoyt

      this is not by design. it is because of their ties to ‘ “Fat” Leonard Francis, the Malaysian contractor at the center of the largest bribery scandals in Navy history.’
      In other words, they lost their clearances because they are under investigation for corruption.

      • Minicapt

        So far, the investigation has not revealed any culpability; the two Admirals are suspects because their names were mentioned in that investigation. And apparently that is their only ‘crime’ discovered thus far.

        Cheers

        • Alex Furlong

          As ridiculous as it sounds… this sort of thing does make a twisted sense. You can’t have people under investigation for corruption examining classified information. There’s the very real chance they’ll decide to use that access to threaten their way out of prosecution or flee and use that info to strike back at the gov’t that’s trying to put them in jail. So… you cut off their access by suspending their clearance.

          It does make a certain amount of sense. It certainly makes hell of a lot more than setting up your own email server and having people send you classified info on an uncertified system.

          • Minicapt

            The next point is that if there is no evidence found after two years, perhaps the initial judgement call needs to be reconsidered.

            Cheers

          • Fingolfin

            Yes that DOES make sense but it is missing the crucial second step of temporarily replacing them.

      • Roto ✓Intentionally Left Blank

        Yep, and they should’ve been re-billeted to a BFM shop somewhere, calculating inflation indices on budget numbers for NAVSUP until they were relieved or cleared. Us GS-14’s and below would’ve been just plain fired.

    • Roto ✓Intentionally Left Blank

      Welp, that’s what the “C” in SCIF stands for… 🙂

  • Luv2GoFly

    The incompetence that is the Obama Administration continues…
    Holy cow, folks, only on more year left. Lets just pray that we don’t get a repeat performer in office.

    • Penny✓ItsSoFluffy! #GoBolts!

      Well, if we do, it will either be a colossal mistake or one that’s simply YUUUUGE!!!

      • tops116 ✓Quipper

        Gee, an erratic lunatic like Trump in charge of the country (nuclear arms and all). How… repellent. Well, the good news is, Trump’s fingers are so puny that he probably couldn’t actually press the button, so there’s that at least.

        • Penny✓ItsSoFluffy! #GoBolts!

          I’m not going to say it’s not just his fingers that are puny, but people are saying it. Other people are saying it, not me. I wouldn’t be bringing it up if others hadn’t already started talking about it. But it could be a problem for him.

          😉

    • DeplorableMessMan ✔ JesseMessy

      Glad to hear you say it’s the O’dmin’s incompetence at work here, since it IRKS me when people reactively blame the usual suspects, as if agreeing with Hollywood that the Intel-community runs the Prez rather than vice-versa.

    • Roto ✓Intentionally Left Blank

      Remember how Obama didn’t even appoint all his Cabinet Members until 2 to 3 years in? It took him 6 freakin months to replace the Director of WHMO when he got fired for that stupid AF1 flyby at the Statue of Liberty (and WHMO has DAILY operations to attend to). :rolleyes:

  • CatHerder ✓fire! ✓fire!

    Catch-22.

  • Penny✓ItsSoFluffy! #GoBolts!

    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot??

    • Suzyqpie

      BIG Time…..muy largo…

    • Roto ✓Intentionally Left Blank

      From Bravo Zulu to Foxtrot Uniform…

  • johnstretton

    Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., has asked what effect this “might have on the Navy’s operational effectiveness.”

    If I am not mistaken, some Iranians experienced the Navy’s operational effectiveness just a few weeks ago. It went really well for the Iranians, as I recall.

  • are u freakin kidding me

    The Chinese are probably reading things he can’t thanks to Hillary’s hacked Email server.

  • tops116 ✓Quipper

    Okay, when even Mark Warner is making sense, something is seriously wrong and in need of fixing.

  • Steve__Jacobson

    Since he was suspended because of the investigation why wasn’t he moved to another position and replaced with a new Director of Naval Intelligence?

    • Suzyqpie

      Because in the Obama admin, failure has no penalty. Which is why the Obama admin is, top to bottom, a proliferation of failure.

  • CrystalDawn0603

    Rufus T. Firefly for President. At least he’s honest!

  • whatev…✓ yo’self.

    Have all documents sent to Hillary’s server and scrubbed of their classification markings. Then forward all docs back to Director of Naval Intelligence.
    Problem solved.

    • Tessa from Texas

      You mean to tell me that some of them still haven’t been scrubbed–Her Highness is not going to be happy about that. Off with their heads!

  • Kenton Clarkson

    Just the way obama wants it
    Flood Homeland Security with MoBro’s, men who have sworn allegiance to islam above all else, and keep hacks like these 2 in place.

  • Grumpy Granny

    Look on the bright side. If the intelligence officers don’t know anything, they can’t divulge any secrets.

    • Spinmamma

      Wait. The former Secretary of State doesn’t know anything, but she still divulged secrets.

      • Grumpy Granny

        Nah, all her emails were about her daughter’s wedding.

        • Tessa from Texas

          No they were not! Some were about yoga poses–isn’t it obvious from her toned physique that there were a lot of those.

          • Alex Furlong

            Then why does she keep wearing pantsuits?

          • Tessa from Texas

            She just doesn’t the rest of us to feel bad by comparison. Bwah-ha-ha!

  • globalcrap

    There is no intelligence in our American White House, and there are no intelligence people in Washed -up d c.

    • Suzyqpie

      Obama is the perfect example of someone who is outraged when government fails but oblivious to the fact that he was the executive actually responsible for making it work.
      Pres Ima Spectator here in the WH, uh waitin” for ma newspaper………

      • Tessa from Texas

        “Ima Spectator”–love it but sadly it is to close to the truth.

      • Petrucio14

        The buck stops … ummmmm … someplace else, preferably in the last administration.

  • Jim Bahen

    Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus needs to be replaced immediately, the two Admirals need to be removed both Vice Admiral Ted Branch and Rear Admiral Bruce Loveless should be reassigned immediately. The two years of this would suggest that a President and Secretary of Defense are either not in control or don’t care about the security of the United States !!

    • Tessa from Texas

      Your conclusion is supported by tons of evidence unfortunately.

    • dickG

      Not to mention that the SOS should have been “re-assigned” by “Ima Spectator in the White House”. But I think she knows too much about Mr. Spectator, and is too popular to just pull off a Vince Foster.
      .

  • vetgal1970

    According to Hillary everything is over classified anyway so he should have no problem reading his reports////

  • RSnyder

    Political castration? He seem’s cool with it.

  • genes ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

    “Director of Naval Intelligence”
    That’s the problem right there. Any Marine can tell you that “Naval Intelligence” is an oxymoron.

    • Roto ✓Intentionally Left Blank

      You wanna hear some Marine jokes from black shoes??? LOL!!!

  • ernst

    This comes from having a Commander-in-Chief who should not be in that role.

  • interestedobserver2

    Meanwhile, some un-named, unconfirmed subordinate somewhere is making decisions about national security and classified intelligence on your behalf, America. Shades of the Clinton State Department.