Ray Epps interview transcript clarifies what he meant when he said he 'orchestrated it'

Former Rep. Adam Kinzinger tried to calm down all the “crazies” who believed Ray Epps was somehow involved with the FBI by saying that he’d interviewed Epps and found “Ray” to be “just another misled man.” Sure, throw grandma in jail for taking a selfie in the Capitol Rotunda, but dismiss Epps as a victim of Donald Trump’s mind control. We’ve all seen the video of Epps inciting people to enter the Capitol, but in his second interview transcript, he claimed he thought the Capitol would be open to the public on January 6.