You know how gun rights activists are always saying that guns don’t kill people, people kill people? Well, it’s time to retire that line, because in an exclusive interview with ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos, Alec Bladwin reveals that not only didn’t he pull the trigger on the gun that killed a cinematographer — the trigger wasn’t pulled at all. It just went off.

Exactly … he was still pointing it at someone even if the trigger magically pulled itself. And there was a live round in it.

Is this what his attorney would tell a jury if that were the case instead of Stephanopoulos on a TV show?