We still maintain that Vice President Mike Pence, who sat stoically and merely observed was the MVP of Tuesday’s meeting between President Trump, Sen. Chuck Schumer, and Rep. Nancy Pelosi, but CNN’s Chris Cillizza sees it differently.

Cillizza seems to think that Schumer and Pelosi managed to beat Trump at his own game, writing Tuesday:

It was, without question, good TV. It was the sort of sausage-getting-made (or, perhaps more appropriately given how things transpired, not getting made) moment that the public rarely gets to see.

“We’re here to have a conversation,” said Pelosi at one point. “I don’t think we should have a debate in front of the press.”

And yet, have the debate they did! But as the three politicians were fighting — and the fourth man in the room, Vice President Mike Pence, seemed very focused on trying to blend into the wallpaper — something interesting happened: Donald Trump lost.

How did Trump lose? He said he’d take responsibility for the government shutdown if he didn’t get funding for the border wall. “That last line from Trump is an absolute dagger politically,” writes Cillizza.

We don’t know: shutting down the government sounds good to us … why not take the credit?