In the best show of a “not impressed” face since gymnast McKayla Maroney visited the White House, Matthew Perry demonstrates how to stay cool while chatting with a former president: look over his shoulder at something else, and then still look bored. Doesn’t he realize he’s speaking with the man who could become America’s first male first lady?

Perry was in St. Louis, Mo., today at a panel discussion on prescription drug misuse presented by the Clinton Global Initiative University.