Gothamist reports today that a third person in New York City, a pregnant woman who was traveling abroad, has tested positive for the Zika virus. The virus has infected thousands in Latin America, and while illness related to the virus is generally limited to fever, rash, joint pain, and conjunctivitis, there does seem to be a link between the virus and microcephaly, a birth defect that causes babies to have abnormally small heads.

Brazil has reported more than 4,000 cases of microcephaly since October, prompting the CDC to issue travel warnings for pregnant women in 24 countries and territories affected by the Zika outbreak.

The World Health Organization estimates that the Zika virus could spread to 4 million people in the Americas just this year.

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand has written to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases urging its director to “prioritize research into developing diagnostic tests, vaccines and therapeutic drugs to fight the continued spread of the Zika virus.”

Following an emergency meeting of the World Health Organization, the Centers for Disease Control issued tips to help Americans avoid the Zika virus. A large portion of the country isn’t worried about mosquito bites at the moment, but it’s likely the disease will keep spreading as warmer weather returns.

… and what the United States isn’t doing to address it.

Update:

WCCO reports that a 60-year-old woman has returned home to Minnesota from a trip to Honduras carrying the Zika virus. The CDC says there is no risk of the virus spreading within the state.

The Sacramento Bee reports that a case has been reported in California this week.

And while People magazine isn’t usually a source of medical information, it’s reporting that two Illinois residents — pregnant women, unfortunately — have tested positive for the Zika virus after returning home from trips out of the country.

  • Peggy Bundy

    I want a nuclear bomb! No, i want a nuclear bomb! ..
    Cant get rid of Mosquitos. Quite amusing in a sickening kind of way.

    • sabelmouse

      huh?

      • Peggy Bundy

        LOL fair comment. My point stands 🙂

        • sabelmouse

          still don’t know what you’re talking about.

          • Peggy Bundy

            I’m saying the world is fucked. In a roundabout way 🙂

          • sabelmouse

            right, mostly humans though.

  • John Howard

    A disease that produces more Liberals. Oh, no!

    • rick

      Small heads-not hollow.

  • tops116 ✓Quipper

    I’m so old, I remember when the CDC resisted calls to implement any strident quarantine procedures.

    It was a couple days ago.

  • tops116 ✓Quipper

    “The best way to avoid #Zika is to prevent mosquito bites.”

    Really earning that $11.1 billion, aren’t they?

    • genes ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

      Go easy on them. ER doctors knew AIDS was an epidemic a decade before the CDC admitted it existed.

      • Prairie Sarah

        Gasp! Are you suggesting that top heavy bureaucracies are cumbersome?

        • sabelmouse

          no, but controlled by corporate interests.

    • Doc Farmer✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

      In that case, I’ve got three letters for them that will fix the whole problem, and I’ll do it for free!!!

      D
      D
      T

      • rick

        I thought the same thing when one of those alphabet soup outfits(UN,WHO…)held a big,er,conference in Chicago to,er,address the bedbug problem.Whatever came of that?

  • grais

    Time to break out the ddt.

    • Prairie Sarah

      Rachel Carson was a pioneer of the faux outrage / humans < animals genre. How many human lives have been lost to malaria since Silent Spring was published? And now how many babies will have this birth defect? This can't be good for their long term health.

      • Ty in TX ✓ᵇᵒⁿᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
        • genes ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

          It also didn’t cause cancer, was less toxic to humans than any current insecticide, cost less to make and took much longer for insects to develop a resistance to.
          OTOH, the patent had expired.

          • sabelmouse

            lol!

      • MarciaTheMurkyMuse? Variegated

        Ah yes, Rachel Carson… Tens of millions of deaths, lives and economies destroyed by NOT doing something. The other mass murderers of the 20th century would be emerald with jealousy.

        • sabelmouse

          how extremely idiotic.

      • Blessed Bee

        https://brazilianshrunkenheadbabies.wordpress.com/2016/01/17/the-story/
        Except these defects aren’t coming from the Zika Virus. They’re because pregnant women were injected with neurotoxins.

        • Prairie Sarah

          I’m not particularly inclined to take verbatim anything posted on WordPress – specifically if not one credible, dated source is cited. If you want to be taken seriously, find a link with several sources. Otherwise it’s really just opinion.

          • Blessed Bee

            Yeah, just opinion.
            What do we call the media and medical establishment who have found the Zika Virus in 3 out of over 10,000 babies born with this skull deformity claiming the Zika Virus must be what caused it? Yup, just an opinion. And yet the establishment and media are fear mongering that it is this common virus causing these deformities, and not the just introduced injection pregnant women are getting. Yup, nothing to see here.

          • Justthefacts

            That is not true. That is a lie. you are making thinks up as you usually do. You have zero sources for your lies.

          • Blessed Bee

            I gave an opinion about the fact that media and medical establishment are promoting a theory that Zika virus is suddenly causing severe neurological damage in children, when it never did before, and not investigating the new injection pregnant women started receiving months before first babies were born. I’m giving facts. You are protecting Pharma.

          • Justthefacts

            Nope, you are extremely uninformed and only get your information from anti-vaxx blogs.

            “During large outbreaks in French Polynesia and Brazil in 2013 and 2015 respectively, national health authorities reported potential neurological and auto-immune complications of Zika virus disease.Agencies investigating the Zika outbreaks are finding an increasing body of evidence about the link between Zika virus and microcephaly. ”

            They only started reporting the microcephaly in 2015. It has been going on for YEARS. They are only now trying to back in the records.

            http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/zika/en/

          • Blessed Bee

            Where is the proof that no injections were given to the pregnant women? I don’t see that….because injections of ‘vaccines’ have started to be pushed onto pregnant women for the past few years. Show me proof the mothers of these babies weren’t injected.
            The Zika virus has been around long before 2013.

          • Justthefacts

            Where is the proof that they were? You have provided no evidence to back-up you dream that all of these women were vaccinated with anything and other were not.
            .
            THAT WAS YOUR CLAIM – NOW PROVE IT!!!

          • Blessed Bee

            All the mothers of the neurologically damaged babies were injected with neurotoxins during early pregnancy. The Tdap was mandated for pregnant Brazilian women in 2014, and 10 months later, over a thousand brain damaged babies were born.
            I’ve already shown you that Tdap was given to those women. If you claim these injections weren’t given….YOU PROVE IT. You prove the vaccine didn’t start to be given in 2014 to the Brazilian mothers.
            Otherwise, you know it’s a fact, and are desperate to protect Pharma.
            I care about protecting people. Everyone, do your own research. Never EVER believe what people (and doctors are people) tell you. Do your own research. Look up each and every ingredient before you allow it to be injected into your, or your children’s bodies. Anyone who tells you to just do what your told and believe what they tell you is not factual and not scientific.
            Science demands research to get to facts. Many claiming to believe in science are only indoctrinating you and don’t want you to investigate anything on your own.

          • Justthefacts

            You are still posting all the unsupported nonsense that YOU NEED TO PROVE. I think you are a Pharma Troll trying to make the anti-vaxx movement look bad and destroy the system put in place by the NVIC to protect vaccine victims.
            .
            You are not protecting anyone but your terrible ideas and rants. You are evil incarnate.
            .
            If you claim these injections WERE given….YOU PROVE IT.
            .
            I’m happy saying that everything said by you and me is unsupported. How about you?

          • Blessed Bee

            I am thrilled to ask everyone to do their own research.
            Never believe anything corporate-controlled media tells you. They’ve been bought by Pharma, as have many ‘commenters’ who do everything they can to shame rational thinkers who question the establishment.
            All rational people recognize that a corporation not having any responsibility for their products when they kill or injure is a disaster waiting to happen. Any rational people know they can’t trust big corporations to protect their health when the corporations have no responsibility if they kill or injure someone.
            Vaccine manufacturers need to have the same liability that every other manufacturer has when their products kill or injure.
            Justice demands liability.

          • Justthefacts

            Oh, you mean like gun manufacturers who have ZERO liability at all? Drug companies have liability. You are just ranting nonsense.

          • Blessed Bee

            Gin manufacturers can be sued if gin kills or injures when taken AS DIRECTED.
            When a vaccine is given AS RECOMMENDED and kills or injures someone, the manufacturer cannot be sued. But keep on lying. You’re good at it, and protecting Pharma, of course.

          • Justthefacts

            Yes they can for many reasons. You are a crazy person.

          • Blessed Bee

            Vaccine manufacturers CANNOT be sued when they kill or permanently injure someone when used as directed. If someone becomes paralyzed from taking Tylenol, they can sue the Tylenol manufacturer. If someone is paralyzed after a flu vaccine, they cannot sue the vaccine manufacturer. Keep on lying, though. That’s what you PharmTrolls do.

          • Justthefacts

            Yes, vaccines manufacturers can be sued for liable and fraud like anyone else. i don’t think you understand what you are saying.

            I haven’t heard of a Tylenol suit anytime recently. perhaps you should post a link?

          • Blessed Bee

            All manufacturers can be sued for fraud. And all manufacturers, EXEPT VACCINE MANUFACTURERS, can be sued when their products kill or injure when used AS DIRECTED.
            You can check court records to see all other manufacturers whose products kill or injure when used AS DIRECTED are sued, or settled out of court. You can also see that vaccine manufacturers CANNOT be taken to a regular US civil court. There is NO JUSTICE when corporations can kill and permanently disable children and have ZERO liability for it.

          • Justthefacts

            I do believe that Gun Manufacturers are completely protected from liability so you are dead wrong when you say “ALL”. You know nothing of the law. You just post crazy rants. Vaccine manufacturers do not have ZERO liability. The are sued all the time from fraud and malfeasance.
            .
            I think you are trying describe the The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA) of 1986 which was written by the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) which is am anti-vaxx organization and they wrote the law for the purposes of protecting vaccine injury victims and it has worked. Vaccine victims are now compensated twice as often in half the time as before.
            .
            And I do understand that you are a monster that wants to disassemble this protection and have poor vaccines victims suffer for years and get compensation less often. You are a sick, sick person.
            .

          • Blessed Bee

            You only believe in protecting Pharma profit, instead of protecting the health of innocent, helpless babies.
            And you are completely ignorant of the fact EVERY SINGLE MANUFACTURER has full liability when their products kill or injure when used AS DIRECTED, including gun manufacturers.
            If you buy a gun, and use it as directed, and it backfires or blows up in your hand, the gun manufacturer is COMPLETELY LIABLE for your death or injury.
            If you buy a vaccine, and it is injected as directed, and it permanently injures or kills you, the vaccine manufacturer has ZERO LIABILITY for your death or injury.
            Yes, the US government set up a vaccine court so that vaccine manufacturers have no liability when their vaccines kill and injure. There is no judge at this ‘court’ and their is ZERO transparency. No ‘court’ transcripts are EVER RELEASED. There is no discovery, as is allowable in civil court. It is evil for people like you to deny families of vaccine-killed babies JUSTICE.
            There is no justice when big Pharma has no liability.

          • Justthefacts

            So it’s clear that your are a sick monster that cares nothing for vaccine victims. You are a horrible person.

            The the special vaccine court, which is oriented for victim protection and has a much lower standard of proof, 42% of resolved claims were awarded compensation, as compared with 23% for medical malpractice claims through the tort system.

            You sick twisted freak wants half of vaccine victims to fail after years in the Tort system because to have a stupid idea of what the vaccine court does.

          • Blessed Bee

            Yes, you PharmTrolls are great at Saul Alinsky tactics to shut down people doing their own research.
            It’s obvious how desperate you are to protect Pharma profit for vaccines instead of innocent, helpless victims. Since you are desperate to DENY justice to the victims of big corporations and their big government protectors, you can’t understand someone like me who wants babies to have healthy lives.
            The ‘special vaccine court’ could possibly pay more claims, except there are so many victims who never get to vaccine court, because when parents of vaccine-killed babies are told they can’t sue the vaccine manufacturer that killed their babies, often they are not told about the ‘special vaccine court’ that has no judge, no media coverage, no transparency, allows no discovery, and doesn’t give out the large settlements that the parents of babies killed from others products are able to fight for.
            This proves PharmTrolls like you do not want any justice for the babies permanently injured or killed by your masters. Walk away from the darkside while your still able. There is no amount in the money worth a human soul, or worth the disabling and killing of babies.

          • Justthefacts

            You are just a mindless ranting troll blurting lies to make yourself feel better. None of that is true. I post evidence and facts but you just rant lies. If you got something to prove, then PROVE IT!
            You are a monster programmed by naturopathy web sites to attack a system that protects vaccines victims. Your ignorance and stupidity will ruin lives.

          • Blessed Bee

            If you think it makes me feel better that pregnant women are being injected with neurotoxins that are deforming and brain-damaging their babies, you are a sociopath.
            I want people to do their research and look up every ingredient before they allow it to be injected into their body.
            We are not slaves. We can think and act for ourselves.
            You are a PharmTroll who only protects the profit and big corporations, instead of the health of human beings.

          • Justthefacts

            You are a crazy person who makes things up. Nothing in vaccines is deforming and brain-damaging people. There is an injury rate of one in one million making vaccines the safest human activity ever invented.
            .
            You are an ignorant woman who fear mongers for entertainment.

          • Blessed Bee

            Since Doctors are NOT MANDATED to report all vaccine-injuries and deaths, no one has any idea how many people are injured and killed by vaccines.
            Each vaccine has different ingredients, just like each medication has different ingredients. It proves your ignorance to say that vaccines are safe. Which vaccine? There are hundreds right now being tested in pharmaceutical companies since they are pure profit with zero liability, unlike prescription medications.
            Since vaccine manufacturers can’t be sued, the manufacturers want to make much more of them than the medications they can be held liable for.
            I promote people researching and educating themselves, and you call me ignorant. You are DESPERATE to shut down conversation and label me as ignorant to shut down people educating themselves. Nice Saul Alinsky tactics. They don’t work on thinking people.

          • Justthefacts

            Doctors are MANDATED by LAW to report all vaccine-injuries and deaths. You are ignorant beyond belief:
            .
            “Healthcare providers are required by law to report any conditions to VAERS, and are strongly encouraged to report clinically significant or unexpected events following vaccination.”
            .
            http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/monitoring/vaers/index.html

            .
            Stop your stupid, mindless rants.

          • Blessed Bee

            Show me an example of 1 doctor, just 1, who has lost his license, or in ANY WAY WAS HELD RESPONSIBLE for not reporting vaccine deaths or injuries….. just 1.
            I’ll be waiting forever, because the medical establishment does not mandate doctors to report vaccine deaths or injuries. VAERS is completely and totally VOLUNTARY.
            Reporting vaccine deaths and injuries is voluntary, but pharmaceutical companies are pushing for ALL CDC ‘recommended’ vaccines to be MANDATED.
            When you can show a medical professional who was held responsible when they didn’t report the death or injury of a patient from vaccines, get back to me.
            Otherwise, go back to your PharmCave with your fellow soulless PharmTrolls.
            Or you can choose to become someone of honor and integrity and walk away from the dark side.

          • Justthefacts

            You are completely and utterly wrong. I posted the links.

            “Healthcare providers are required by law to report any conditions to VAERS, and are strongly encouraged to report clinically significant or unexpected events following vaccination.”
            .
            http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafe

            You are just a crazy old ranting lady…..

          • AutismDadd

            Awk want a cracker parrot?

          • AutismDadd

            Sir Spamalot strikes again.

          • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/01/24/another-pro-vaxer-watched-vaxxed/ On Its Own Merits

            Also, malpractice cap is around 1/2 that of vaccine court cap, iirc.

          • Justthefacts

            I should have added that. Vaccines court pays out twice as much money, twice as often and in half the time as tort/malpractice litigation. These anti-vaxx nutcases what to attack this system and send those victims into the tort system never to return.
            .
            These anti-vaxxers are self centered fanatics that have no regard for the facts or real vaccine victims. The truth is that false victims are behind this nonsense who have zero case and can’t win in vaccine court so all they want to do is disassemble these protections so that they can “game the system” and smother our country in mindless , groundless law suits. They don’t want justice, they just want to win at all costs including the suffering of actual vaccines victims.
            .
            They are truly monstrous people.

          • AutismDadd

            The sick one keeps spamming with stupid photo’s and mindless slogans.

          • AutismDadd

            But they ALREADY have an out. Out of court settlements where they pay a fraction of profits toward compensation and possible fines. The employees, owners, stock holders etc face no prison time.

          • AutismDadd

            Maybe your aide should get you some hot chocolate.

          • AutismDadd

            Not FINDING increased evidence, INVENTING it.

          • Justthefacts

            It better that you. You troll have NOTHING.

          • AutismDadd

            Another disturbing response from a person who obviously needs professional help.

          • bwf309

            Wow, basement boy justfiction just made another meme, mother must be so proud

          • Justthefacts

            Is it ad hominem time again?

            Bwf309 is an Ultra-conservative Sexist Racist Homophobic Stalking Quack Chiropractor who is here to push his book of anti-medicine naturopathic cancer cures.
            .
            Ultra-conservative
            http://www.aurorasentinel.com/opinion/editorial-mandatory-vaccination-reform-must-be-among-2016-colorado-legislative-goals/#comment-2485921302.
            http://disq.us/url?impression=5c6cbbb6-c6a3-11e5-ac4b-00259085287c&forum=1264200&thread=4447303200&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aurorasentinel.com%2Fopinion%2Feditorial-mandatory-vaccination-reform-must-be-among-2016-colorado-legislative-goals%2F%23comment-2485027410%3AwT1o8ogiTYvbm34Uu2Kc9Fcheyk&variant=active&experiment=digests&behavior=click&post=2485027410&type=notification.post.registered&event=email
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            Sexist
            https://www.aurorasentinel.com/opinion/editorial-mandatory-vaccination-reform-must-be-among-2016-colorado-legislative-goals/#comment-2485800935
            http://www.aurorasentinel.com/opinion/editorial-mandatory-vaccination-reform-must-be-among-2016-colorado-legislative-goals/#comment-2484998795
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            Racist – you have said that what happen with Zika only matter in the US and you don’t care about South Americans
            http://www.aurorasentinel.com/opinion/editorial-mandatory-vaccination-reform-must-be-among-2016-colorado-legislative-goals/#comment-2485262136
            https://www.aurorasentinel.com/opinion/editorial-mandatory-vaccination-reform-must-be-among-2016-colorado-legislative-goals/#comment-2485800935
            .
            Homophobic
            https://disqus.com/home/discussion/aurorasentinel/editorial_mandatory_vaccination_reform_must_be_among_2016_colorado_legislative_goals/#comment-2485341647
            .
            Stalker
            http://www.aurorasentinel.com/opinion/editorial-mandatory-vaccination-reform-must-be-among-2016-colorado-legislative-goals/#comment-2479105806
            .
            Quack chiropractor – you think you can treat allergies with honey.
            http://www.aurorasentinel.com/opinion/editorial-mandatory-vaccination-reform-must-be-among-2016-colorado-legislative-goals/#comment-2485295325

            .
            Pushing his book
            http://www.aurorasentinel.com/opinion/editorial-mandatory-vaccination-reform-must-be-among-2016-colorado-legislative-goals/#comment-2490356746
            .
            of anti-medicine naturopathic cancer cures
            http://www.aurorasentinel.com/opinion/editorial-mandatory-vaccination-reform-must-be-among-2016-colorado-legislative-goals/#comment-2490451119
            .
            We don’t need people like you here.

          • bwf309

            Wow, did I push a hot button justfiction? Living at home, mom at work to support you, accomplishing nothing and trying to find ways to belittle people who actually have done something with their lives?

          • Justthefacts

            Naw, you just keep coming to a battle of wits unarmed.

          • bwf309

            and yet here we find that it is a mild disease with very few references to microcephaly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zika_fever

          • Justthefacts

            Just this “little” one:
            .
            Health officials studying the 2015 Brazilian outbreak suspect that the disease may undergo mother-to-child transmission in the womb and cause microcephaly, a major birth defect
            .
            Schnirring, Lisa (30 November 2015). “Zika virus spreads to more countries”. Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, U. of Minnesota Academic Health Center. Retrieved 11 December 2015.

            .
            Are you now just trying to look stupid?

          • bwf309

            “suspect” “may” terms used by alarmists like you to push the pharmaceutical agenda to sell more vaccines and cover up it’s mistakes (Dtap in pregnant ladies in Brazil for the fime)

          • Justthefacts

            Here is a real documented fact. There has been 158 million DTaP vaccinations given in the US alone in just the last 6 years. Why is there no microencephalitis problem here in the US? Why is there on problem anywhere else in the world in the last 25 years?
            .
            Answer that, Ultra-conservative Sexist Racist Homophobic Stalking Quack Chiropractor who is here to push his book of anti-medicine naturopathic cancer cures..
            .
            To the readers: Can you believe these anti-vaxxers are so scared that the Zika outbreak will demonstrate the true need for vaccines that they are desperately
            .
            trying to blame vaccines for the outbreak! With zero evidence!
            .
            This is a perfect example of exactly how far out on the lunatic fringe these fanatics actually are.

          • bwf309

            Of the 158 million, justfiction, how many in the US were administered to pregnant women as they were in Brazil?

          • AutismDadd

            Must be recess time.

          • bwf309
      • bwf309

        May not be the disease to get worried about. ZIKA is asymptomatic in 80% of the cases and very mild. The concern for microcephaly is not substantiated in the literature and may not occur. Not knocking your intent, just this may not be the disease to use as an example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zika_fever

  • Bklynnygirl

    Illegal aliens spreading diseases all across USA.

    • sabelmouse

      omg!

  • Stephen

    My parents always tell me of the days the old mosquito fogger would drive down the street and they would run and play behind it. They had all the fun… and no Zika.

    • sabelmouse

      they had polio. read about the polio/pesticide connection.

      • Stephen

        Polio. That’s a new one to me. My parents are still alive and never have/had Polio.

        • sabelmouse

          so?

          • Stephen

            Just never heard of a Polio outbreak where I live in the 60’s when they were kids. Don’t want to go down the road of evil pesticides or whatever. Full disclosure, my son is not vaccinated.

  • globalcrap

    Just another alien disease coming across the borders, or a government issued bug

    • sabelmouse

      no, it’s alien mosquitoes.

  • Girl who talks with her claws

    Good thing a fetus isn’t a baby, so the pregnant woman doesn’t have to worry about the virus affecting the health of her child. /s

    • unknown

      I found it interesting the evening networks covered this story and frequently said “unborn babies”

      • rick

        They’ll delete it from the online…

    • sabelmouse

      what?

  • overboosted ✓ᴰᴱᴾᴸᴼᴿᴬᴮᴸᴱ

    If we didn’t ban DDT for political reasons, things like West Nile and this new Zika virus wouldn’t be much of an issue. DDT could save millions of lives.

    • sabelmouse

      not actually true. pesticide resistance is a thing. not to mention ddt not good for the health of mammals.

  • MarciaTheMurkyMuse? Variegated

    Appoint a Zika Czar, with funding of incalculable $$$. Then the disease will vanish. Worked for Ebola, didn’t it? (/s. Maybe.)

    • Blessed Bee

      https://brazilianshrunkenheadbabies.wordpress.com/2016/01/17/the-story/
      No, Pharma will come up with a vaccine to protect from the vaccine-caused defects they blame on a virus.

      • http://whatandever.blogspot.com/ Osumashi Kinyobe

        Childhood vaccines are the reason why you don’t have polio.

        Cheers.

        • Blessed Bee

          Which vaccines? Yeah, just the polio.
          Innocent children are injected with over 73 doses of vaccines be the age of 18.
          And each one contains neurotoxins that the vaccine makers claim they need in order to use as adjuvants to stimulate the immune system and make the vaccine work. Of course, these neurotoxins can then cause neurological disorders/diseases and adjuvants cause autoimmune diseases. Yup, that’s why US children are sicker with more chronic neurological and autoimmune diseases than ever before. And surprise, these diseases require a lifetime of pharmaceutical products. Win/Win for Pharma.

          • http://whatandever.blogspot.com/ Osumashi Kinyobe

            Please – just stop.

            There is no reputable scientist who would put his name to your post.

            If you really feel that childhood vaccines are bad idea, just watch a child die from measles.

            Then come back and tell me how bad vaccines are.

          • sabelmouse

            yes there are/would be, but they lose out.

          • http://whatandever.blogspot.com/ Osumashi Kinyobe

            Name one.

          • Blessed Bee

            Yeah, cause every kid died from the measles.
            But, it’s ok. I’m sure the neurotoxins used as adjuvants (immune-system stimulators) have NOTHING to do with the exponentially rising rate of neurological diseases and autoimmune diseases. But epidemics of autoimmune diseases and neurological diseases don’t matter. No, just measles.

          • rick

            And peanut allergies!

          • http://whatandever.blogspot.com/ Osumashi Kinyobe

            Wow.

            That’s your ace-in-the-hole?

          • Justthefacts

            No, they don’t. You have zero evidence. you are spreading lies. You are fear mongering.

        • sabelmouse

          not even remotely true.

          • http://whatandever.blogspot.com/ Osumashi Kinyobe

            Prove it.

            Now.

      • Justthefacts

        Hilarious. You are saying that the Tdap causes microcephaly ONLY IN BRAZIL!! The Tdap has been there for decades but, now, only now, its the cause of microcephaly?
        In you mind, there is NO WAY it can be the new Zika Virus that infected EVERY ONE OF THEM!!!
        You anti-vaxx nutcases are ready to believe anything………

        • Blessed Bee

          You PharmTrolls are willing to say anything to keep Pharma profits. You are evil. Tdap wasn’t mandated for Brazilian women until 2014, when it was given before 22 weeks gestations.
          Women in the US weren’t bullied into getting the Tdap until last few years, and it’s given in 3rd trimester. 10 months after Brazilian women started being injected with these poisons, over a thousand babies were born with brain deformities. You are evil to be protecting this.

          • Justthefacts

            What part of “that is crap with no source” are you have trouble with? Repeating the crap doesn’t help. Post a real source and not the ramblings of a nutcase blog.

          • Blessed Bee

            The fact is that vaccine manufacturers don’t have same liability every other manufacturer has. When vaccines kill or disable, people CANNOT sue vaccine manufacturers.
            There are many PharmTrolls and those indoctrinated by the establishment who insist that vaccine manufacturers should never have any responsibility when they permanently destroy children. And those of us who are honest know that any manufacturer who is immune from responsibility is not going to worry too much about safety…..especially when they spend billions on advertising (so media doesn’t report) and donations to politicians (so politicians don’t complain) and on lobbying (Pharma is BIGGEST lobbying group in US).
            But, I’m sure no one should EVER question anything about the safety of things injected into human beings. Questioning has nothing to do with science. Science is big corporations and what their paid ‘scientists’ say.

          • Justthefacts

            You are a nutcase changing the subject because YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE FOR YOUR CLAIMS.
            .
            You are an evil old woman who wants children who are vaccine injured to suffer and that is wrong. Why would you wish hardship and suffering on those poor people is just sick.
            .
            With the victim friendly vaccine compensation system, and 42% of resolved claims were awarded compensation, as compared with 23% for medical malpractice claims through the tort system. Best of all, they don’t have to pay for their lawyers.
            .
            Why you would force those children through the tort system taking twice and long and wining half the time is beyond. me. You should be ashamed of yourself!!

          • Blessed Bee

            How evil of you to protect vaccine manufacturers instead of innocent, helpless children. You PharmTrolls are so happy that people permanently disabled and the parents of vaccine-killed babies CANNOT SUE vaccine manufacturers.

            You PharmTrolls are so happy that vaccine manufacturers are PURE PROFIT and ZERO RESPONSIBILITY.
            You PharmTrolls are so happy the media never tells the American public that they cannot sue if vaccines kill their babies.
            Your soul was worth more than any amount of money to spout this kind of injustice.

            There is NO JUSTICE with manufacturers having NO RESPOSIBILITY. There is NO SAFETY when the companies making the products aren’t even held liable for the deaths and injuries their product causes.
            This is ALWAYS the topic.
            If you truly believe vaccines are safe, then you would insist vaccine manufacturers have the same liability every other manufacturer has….instead of being protected by the US government, whose politicians are funded by vaccine makers.

          • Justthefacts

            You are the EVIL ONE who want those poor children to suffer year after year and have their parents be driven into Bankruptcy because you attack the system designed buy the NVIC to protect victims.

            You are a sick, sick nutcase who only care about yourself.
            You attack everything good about victims rights and protections. Your ignorance is dangerous and EVIL!!!

            I’ll bet YOU are a Pharma Troll trying to tear down the system designed to protect victims and save Big Pharma billions of dollars. You are a sick, sick person.

          • Blessed Bee

            Anyone who would believe it’s good that corporations can’t be sued when their products kill or permanently disable someone is extremely stupid.
            You know vaccine manufacturers should have responsibility when their vaccines kill people, but you don’t want them to because you protect Pharma instead of innocent, helpless babies. You are a vile creature…a true PharmTroll.
            The truth can NEVER come out about how many people are killed or injured by vaccines because doctors aren’t mandated to report all injuries and death by vaccine. We can NEVER find out about the safety of vaccines because victims CANNOT sue their manufacturers…which would allow for discovery in court where all facts on the safety of vaccines would become transparent.
            As long as vaccine manufacturers don’t have liability for vaccines, there is zero transparency, and our babies can become victims of corporations–without those corporations EVER being held accountable.
            Where there is no liability, there is NO JUSTICE

          • Justthefacts

            Drug manufacturers have liability and can be sued. That is happening not. You are ranting paranoid delusions.

          • Blessed Bee

            Yes, drug manufacturers can be sued when drugs kill or injure, but VACCINE manufacturers CANNOT be sued if their vaccines are CDC recommended, which right now is 73 doses of vaccines by the time a child is 18. That’s 73 doses of potential injuries/deaths that the manufacturer has no liability for. But the parents will live with the horror forever.

          • Justthefacts

            Not true. You are a crazy person.

          • bwf309

            Wow, an out and out lie

          • Justthefacts

            You are out and out wrong.
            .
            Here is one of your own anti-vaxx sites to prove it
            .
            Judge: Lawsuit Against Merck’s MMR Vaccine Fraud to Continue –
            .
            http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/judge-lawsuit-against-mercks-mmr-vaccine-fraud-to-continue/

          • DevilDocNowCiv

            So, Brazilian women got deformed kids from vaccines after 10 months. And American woman got “bullied” into using the vaccines for “last few years” and still no wave of deformities. Do you even bother to read what you post?

          • Blessed Bee

            Pregnant women in US are CDC ‘recommended’ (which leads to many being bullied by doctors) into getting the Tdap in the 3rd trimester of pregnancy. Brazilian pregnant women were mandated by their government to get the Tdap between 18 and 22 weeks gestation….which is well before the 3rd trimester. The aluminum in the Tdap is heavy metal neurotoxin, which a fetus should never have injected into it’s system. There are different problems depending on time of injection.

          • DevilDocNowCiv

            Blessed,

            Aluminum in US approved vaccines is not at a dangerous level (http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/ScienceResearch/ucm284520.htm) And your reply doesnt touch the incoherence of your math. You write that Brazilians had sever deformity problems in 10 months. Regardless of when you started your count, we have been using for many years and not seen that widespread kind of deformity. This is from you own post, Blessed.

  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzZoahQVVFe26Xbq-d4Ut7g Lord Fhalkyn

    And so it begins.

  • genes ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

    How many of the “undocumented immigrants” have brought this into the country?

    • sabelmouse

      wow, new level! it’s transmitted by mosquitoes, not humans [ except very rarely sexually] .
      so someone sneezing on you will not give you this. most people who got it live where the mosquitoes are or traveled there.
      here’s YOUR solution; keep your imperialistic behind at home.

      • genes ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

        We have mosquitoes in the US, infected people in the US get bit by those mosquitoes, it gets spread.
        Quit projecting YOUR racism and hate on others.

        • sabelmouse

          it does not get spread by humans as a rule, no matter where they got bit by a mosquito.

          • genes ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

            Sigh, the mosquitoes in the US get it from the infected and spread it. Once a disease comes into the country, it gets spread by its normal means.

          • sabelmouse

            what are normal means supposed to be? something that’s spread by mosquito bites doesn’t suddenly spread through sneezes just because it has entered north america or europe.

          • genes ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

            You’re either an idiot troll or unable to comprehend English.

          • sabelmouse

            I am the idiot??? or do you mean that mosquitoes bite infected and then transmit? that still has nothing to with immigrants.
            1. they would have to be infected in the first place and
            2. they would need to be in a suitable clime for the mosquitoes. [ climate change will help with that of course but again, blame yourself, not immigrants]
            anyways, if you’re scared don’t get the dtap in /before pregnancy.
            and what does undocumented have to do with it?

          • Justthefacts

            I think you are missing the point that if a Zika infected person is bit by a mosquito here in the states, the mosquito can get infected. Since female mosquitos do all the biting, we all know what that means.
            .
            The disease can be carried to a location by a human and start an outbreak. That is how they think it got to South America.
            .
            The Zika virus is now in Puerto Rico. It’s inside our boarders.

          • sabelmouse

            puerto rico is inside your borders? it seem actual climate is important. shouldn’t have stole mexico.

          • genes ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

            you’re just another moron. Aztecs were slaughtering the other tribes. For fun and sacrifice.

          • sabelmouse

            and what does THAT have to do with the usa stealing land of mexico?

          • Justthefacts

            You are not very bright, are you. Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory and Puerto Ricans are U.S. Citizens. There are zero travel restrictions. Puerto Rico.is part of the United States, just like Guam and the AMERICAN virgin islands.
            .
            Yes, Puerto Rico in inside the United States borders. I wish you could learn something else, like the value of vaccines,

          • genes ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

            Undocumented haven’t had health screening.
            Seems like you deny science.

          • sabelmouse

            does the general pop get screened for zika?

          • genes ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

            Go back to your anti-science conspiracy hole.

          • sabelmouse

            yeah, because believing anything as long as ”science” is stamped on it is ever so sciencey.

          • DevilDocNowCiv

            sabel,

            I’ll try to go slow for you. Infected person walks across border, gets in line behind you for a Michael Jackson revival show. A mosquito bites him, then bits you. You are now infected. Too complicated?

          • sabelmouse

            i get that dear. but person must be infected and mosquito must be there and climate must be right apparently.
            and this could happen with anyone who has traveled to a region where this is prevalent so why go on about immigrants and why bring in documentation. is this virus screened for?

          • DevilDocNowCiv

            sable,

            Now I know we’ve never met, because none of the women who’ve known me long hate me, none call me dear, even while we are “active.” Back to business.

            Screening is no longer an issue, except for the millions in line for years and years, doing it the legal way. Those on walking tours across the border, they can and do walk up to border patrol, claim to be refugees, then get a water bottle and drive to a shower and cell or group cot room. Days later, a busload is taken to some city where they get a paper and are told to show up in court with the paper. Welcome to America, Mr and Mrs new Zika carrier.

            Many think we are safe here from Zika, because this isn’t a tropical zone. Wrong. This map has lots of colors-each is one subtype of this Anopheles, which carries Zika. It also carries Malaria, which is why the map was made
            ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anopheles#/media/File:Anopheles-range-map.png).

            We will probably have few of these, and mostly or all due to tourists returning from S. America. The truth is still that walking disease vectors are still walking disease vectors.

          • Justthefacts

            Don’t forget that the mosquito then reproduces. If one infected person in the US gets bit by a Mosquito here that reproduces, it’s all over. .

      • DevilDocNowCiv

        If a person has the virus, and walks across the border, he/she carries it across with them. Too complicated for ya, sabel?

  • Maxx

    I’ve always felt it ain’t the asteroid we should be worrying about.

    This is just a small example of what could happen when a dangerous virus shows up and there is no vaccine for it. We’ve all seen the movies. Is it that far from reality?

    • sabelmouse

      more likely the other way around. when a new/dangerous virus shows up and our immune systems have been messed with by vaccines, or a virus has mutated because of vaccines, or a combination of both.
      and if we neglect nutrition and sanitation in favour of exploiting people and keeping them in poverty.
      click on the link a few posts up, about dtap for pregnant women being used in brazil. it isn’t save in pregnancy.

      • Justthefacts

        So mouse, should we develop a vaccine for this or do you think homeopathy alone will do? Are you anti-vaxxers happy with just letting the virus go and see how many microcephalitic children we can ring up in the name of “Naturopathy”
        .
        There is nothing like a pandemic to remind people why we have vaccines……

  • Arttie the Deplorable

    Given that the mosquito is the state bird of MN , this does not bode well.

  • Blessed Bee

    https://brazilianshrunkenheadbabies.wordpress.com/2016/01/17/the-story/
    Defects have NOTHING to do the Zika Virus which has never caused these defects before. Media is covering for Pharma.

    • sabelmouse

      would not surprise me.

    • Justthefacts

      You are saying that the Tdap causes microcephaly ONLY IN BRAZIL!! The Tdap has been there for decades but, now, only now, its the cause of microcephaly?
      In you mind, there is NO WAY it can be the new Zika Virus that infected EVERY ONE OF THEM!!!
      You anti-vaxx nutcases are ready to believe anything………

      • Blessed Bee

        If you’d read the article, you would see in Brazil pregnant women were injected before 22 weeks gestation. In US, where pregnant women started being bullied into getting Tdap a few years ago, it is given in the 3rd trimester. The neurological damage is not as noticeable the later in the pregnancy a woman is poisoned.
        And you know this as a PharmTroll

        • Justthefacts

          The Brazilian women received the same vaccination the same way for the last 10 years. This years it’s a problem?
          .
          What about all the other countries? Just Brazil?
          .
          You are a nutcase and that blogpost is noise.

          • Blessed Bee

            10 years? Proof that Brazilian women were mandated to get same vaccine at same time in pregnancy for 10 years? Proof?

          • Justthefacts

            I got nothing to prove crazy person. you claimed “Brazil pregnant women were injected before 22 weeks gestation.”
            .
            YOU PROVE IT!

        • DevilDocNowCiv

          And your anti-vaxer insight is better about issues in Brazil than local doctors. Its luck for us we have such a genius among us. Too bad for Brazil that they dont know as much as you about whats going on in their countries.

          • Blessed Bee

            Your Saul Alinsky tactics are so obvious. Brazilian doctors do know what’s going on, the ‘health’ officials and media decide what to say is going on. Feel free to believe the establishment. And some people will believe actual scientific evidence instead of fear mongering by PharmTrolls.

          • DevilDocNowCiv

            Blessed,

            So the Brazilian doctors agree with you? And you are the one we all should respect over Brazil’s health experts, since you use scare quotes when you refer to them? Again, how lucky we are to have your brains to shine a light on our path forward.

          • Blessed Bee

            Brazil’s ‘health experts’ are not the same as doctors.
            I am lucky to be able to do my own research. I am grateful that I am honorable enough to encourage others to do the same. I don’t shame people who choose not to be indoctrinated by corporations and the media protecting them.

          • DevilDocNowCiv

            Blesssed,

            I just hope the Brazilians understand how lucky they are to know that a commenter can correct their countries health experts, and shame on those who suggest that some Americans arrogantly assume smaller, poorer countries are relatively incompetent, and qualify those as experts in health that we would not.

          • Blessed Bee

            I hope Americans understand how some fellow Americans trust big corporations and big government more than they do skeptical reasoning. Keep on shilling for Pharma. I care about people and encourage them to do their own research.

          • DevilDocNowCiv

            Right, by disagreeing with you I must be a bad person such as you describe as a shill. And once again, the Brazilians must be grateful that an anonymous American is smarter about health than their recognized health experts-how lucky they are to have you to advise them, because they are from a poorer country, so must not know as much as you.

          • Blessed Bee

            I’m encouraging everyone to do their research. You are the one who insists Brazilians aren’t capable of doing so. Brazilians are just as capable of any American of skeptical reasoning and research.

          • DevilDocNowCiv

            Blessed,

            No, rather I respect the ability of Brazilians to train their Health Experts just as we do, and as well as Portugal does. I note Portugal, as it’s the Brazilians’ “parent” country and emotional home, or at least kinda’ home in the heart for many Brazilians.

            And just as they are capable of this, they can question the Zika problem as well as you or I. And happily, we agree that all should be encouraged to pursue critical, skeptical lives in general.

    • DevilDocNowCiv

      http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ZIKA_VIRUS_TEXAS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-02-02-15-42-34

      Blessed, please note the link, which shows that we now, per the AP, have a Zika STD transmission. Happy now? Have we wasted enough time chanting to crytals and peering at Ouiji boards, and can we get back to killing the durn skeeters?

  • Lyle Petersen

    DDT is your friend.

    • sabelmouse

      take a bath in it.

      • http://wandererswaysite.wordpress.com Wanderer

        Gladly. My grandfather and great grandfather did just that.

        Great grandfather lived to be 93 and lucid the whole time. Grandfather is still going strong in his 80s.

  • The Masked Avatar

    I don’t have special lady parts. Do I still need to worry?

  • http://whatandever.blogspot.com/ Osumashi Kinyobe

    To think: DDT could have prevented this.

    • sabelmouse

      why do you think that? we’d have 100% ddt resistant mosquitoes now, not to mention health problems in humans due to ddt and other drawbacks.

      • DevilDocNowCiv

        Osu thinks that because its true. DDT was tremendously effective, and many lives taken by malaria since the Carson influenced stoppage of DDT. Speculation about how resistant mosquitoes would be to it today doesnt change that stone cold fact, those stone cold dead bodies. Sorry for the inconvenience.

      • http://whatandever.blogspot.com/ Osumashi Kinyobe

        Prove it.

  • Barack Hussein Sharpton

    How many incurable African diseases is that now that have made their way to America?
    I’ve lost count.

  • Benji0804

    Looks like it’s long t-shirts this summer since I am allergic to mosquito spray.

  • Perso Nasplit

    “Zika virus confirmed in California, but state’s climate likely to block spread”

    Climate change: saving lives every day.

  • honestAbesurd

    If lil donnie is Prez he will pass his touch back immigration policy and millions will be infecting the usa.

  • bifski

    of course the common sense action now is to ban incoming travel from the sources…but that would be “offensive” and not “inclusive”..

  • http://wandererswaysite.wordpress.com Wanderer

    Thanks again, Rachel Carson. Your stupid book cost more lives than Hitler. And now we have this to deal with.

    I’d rather get ebola myself than have my wife get zika.

  • Justthefacts

    Hey Anti-vaxxers, we have a pandemic underway right now. The Zika virus has spread to nearly every continent. 4 millions case are expected in the Americas this year. In Columbia alone, they has identified 500 pregnant infect women who are expected to have children with microcephaly.
    .
    So, should we develop a vaccine for this or do you think homeopatyh alone will do? Are you anti-vaxxers happy with just letting the virus go and see how many microcephalitic children we can ring up in the name of “Naturopathy”
    .
    There is nothing like a pandemic to remind people why we have vaccines……

    • DevilDocNowCiv

      Just,

      The vaccine answer is not available now-this GM skeeter is.

      http://news.yahoo.com/scientists-plan-genetically-engineered-mosquitoes-220447416.html-

      This is a link about a bio-engineered skeeter that would help slow or stop the disease. The linked article says it has already been tested in a couple of countries, and works. The GM skeeter was made for a different disease that this same skeeter passes around. So it can be used for any disease this skeeter passes, like Zika. The only question is – will Brazil be too PC LIb to use this tried, tested and ready GM skeeter?

      • Justthefacts

        I have read about this. Its genetically engineered but its designed to die off and leave none behind. There is nothing wrong with it but Florida loons have protested it’s use there.
        So it goes.

        • DevilDocNowCiv

          Just,

          Close. It mates, but the offspring of it mating will all fail to grow to the stage that will let them mate. So it’s offspring will be the last generation of all of it’s mating. So it takes up the mating time and effort of a female skeeter, and her egg generation is all devoted to kids that will never reproduce. Thats shown to be effective in a couple of test efforts in countries that approved testing so far, per the link article.

          • Justthefacts

            Correct. the line dies off and there are no GM mosquitoes left in the end. Its a good system.

  • AutismDadd

    Brazil just mandated a Tdap vaccine for pregnant women and has 4,000 cases of Zika. But some say only 150 cases in 2014 then 4,000 in 2015 points to something else.

    • Justthefacts

      They didn’t track microencephalitis in Brazil until 2015, genius. Thye are still working on the numbers.
      .
      Here is a real documented fact. There has been 158 million DTaP vaccinations given in the US alone in just the last 6 years. Why is there no microencephalitis problem here in the US? Why is there on problem anywhere else in the world in the last 25 years?
      .
      Answer that, Troll!
      .
      To the readers: Can you believe these anti-vaxxers are so scared that the Zika outbreak will demonstrate the true need for vaccines that they are desperately

      trying to blame vaccines for the outbreak! With zero evidence!
      .
      This is a perfect example of exactly how far out on the lunatic fringe these fanatics actually are.

      • AutismDadd

        You seem to think things in the world have always been static, predictable and completely understood. That’s pure DUH. And the number of Dtap in the USA in the past 25 is irrelevant to it being mandated for pregnant women in Brazil in 2014-15.

        • Justthefacts

          And you are a mindless loon who refuses to understand that its the same Dtap used in the US and Brazil.
          You just don’t want to be wrong and you are.

          • AutismDadd

            Dtap given to pregnant women who have damaged babies? In the USA it would go to VAERS and VAERS would apply its disclaimer and poof all better for Big Pharm.

          • Justthefacts

            It’s funny when you stop trolling and try to say something. That’s when we can all tell how stupid you are.
            .
            Consider that there have been 25 confimed cases of Dtap injuries in the past 6 years, I guess “Big Pharm” isn’t do that good of a job covering it up, are they?
            .
            Although “Bid Pham” controls all of the world, apparently Brazil, of all places, is the one spot that is just ” too honest” for the cover-up. Really? CONSPIRACIES EVERYWHERE!