First, the layoff bomb due to Obamacare. Now, the avalanche of increasingly unaffordable plans, and cost increases in the form of FSA (Flexible Spending Accounts) caps.

Flexible Spending Accounts have actually been helpful in allowing people keep the cost of their health care down when dealing with out-of-pocket expenses, as Human Events explained recently.

A Flexible Spending Account allows workers to put aside money from their paycheck for health care expenses not covered by their health insurance. Because the money is pre-tax, whatever the amount of the contribution is deducted from the participant’s taxable income. Neither is it a taxable event when the participant withdraws the funds for an authorized medical expense.

The limit on contributions is a tax increase because it exposes more income to taxation, she said.

“You save anywhere from 25 cents to 40 cents on every dollar you use in the flexible account because of the tax protection,” Dietel said.

Thanks, Obamacare! In Obama’s world, keeping costs down actually means increasing costs and sneaky new taxation. Hey, remember when Obamacare “absolutely was not a tax?

More from Heartland:

Flex Spending Accounts and Health Savings Accounts: FSAs will now be capped in 2013 at $2500 (before they were limited only by employer). If you’re one of the thousands of people who have a special needs kid and had been using your FSA for their education payments, you’re out of luck. We already have the increased penalty for HSA withdrawal, so be aware of the other restrictions on your HSA, including no longer being able to purchase things over the counter without a prescription.

For the children? If by “for,” you mean harming.

If that wasn’t bad enough, Twitter users are reporting that their health care premiums are going up. You can totally “keep your plan,” so long as you can pay way more.

https://twitter.com/DanSealana/status/268909741017792512

https://twitter.com/KamSam1979/status/270526741120958464

https://twitter.com/wife3kidsnodogs/status/268738267774607361

https://twitter.com/brady_cremeens/status/268741437317844992

Like the devastating layoff bombs and hiring freezes, look for this to continue, sadly. Forward! 

  • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

    This is the moment when those that voted for Obama, opted out, or voted 3rd party for “ideology” realize what a mistake that was.

    The sad thing is, it’s only going to get worse.

    • Guest

      That won’t happen. They’ll either blame the insurance companies or the Republicans. Obama is so untouchable by leftists, if he ran a dog fighting ring, PeTA would not only donate dogs, they’d cook the loser so he could eat it off of some model’s ass.

      • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

        If a Libertarian who opted to not vote, especially those who voted for other races on the same ballot but just left the Presidential part blank, tries to blame anyone but themselves for hands-off allowing this to continue, they should join their nihilist friends and find their own sovereign nation to screw up.

        I consider the “leftists” to be screaming children that need to sit in time out until they stop and/or addicts that we need to be sternly and gently truthful with so they can take Step 1 (honesty) all by themselves.

        I understand your anger and disgust.
        But it is time to roll out the truth machine.
        It’s not time to spit.

        *edited to change “that”s to “who”s ‘cuz I always use “that” when I shouldn’t

      • http://www.facebook.com/kim.andrews.980 Kim Andrews

        So true. Hostess goes out of business because of union strikes and they blame Romney. Business close because of obamacare and they blame the evil rich business owners. The economy sucks and they blame wallstreet. Obama will get a pass no matter what. Its sad but its been that way for a while.

        • http://www.righthook38.com righthook38

          That’s because he’s effectively spread the message of class warfare, and stupid voters buy into it.

      • lucasb

        OMG! Well played! Well played, indeed!

      • http://www.facebook.com/peranut.norman Peranut Pam Norman

        They are already blaming Romney, Wait…Is he the President????

      • http://twitter.com/Mr_Nicky_A Nick A

        Hilarious!

      • http://twitter.com/Mr_Nicky_A Nick A

        Hilarious!

      • http://twitter.com/anzatree Lynn Evans

        Harsh but true!

      • http://twitter.com/anzatree Lynn Evans

        Harsh but true!

    • http://www.righthook38.com righthook38

      And…they’re taking us down with them.

  • JINNASH

    How many of these people voted for Obama?

    • Dex

      Everybody who thought Obamacare was UHC did.

  • digitalPimple

    Please call your congressman/women and demand a repeal of Obamacare.

    • Lexikin

      It won’t happen. Obama is the beginning of the end of our nation.

      • Scott Dunn

        good luck on that one

        • digitalPimple

          Stay silent.

        • digitalPimple

          Stay silent.

    • AmazonRedHead

      I would, but I live in Pelosi/Feinstein-land, so even a call to an 800 number would be a waste. These dumb b@#$&@s would kneel under the desk in the Oval Office and pull a Lewinsky before they’d go against their Messiah-in-Chief. It really sucks to be a conservative in the land of fruits and nuts.

      • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

        Don’t give up. Be vocal so those that are starting to doubt him know they are not alone. Please.

      • $36544368

        Me too…CA sucks! I’m a native, and used to absolutely love it here…now it just feels like I’m the illegitimate step-child at the family reunion.

    • AmazonRedHead

      I would, but I live in Pelosi/Feinstein-land, so even a call to an 800 number would be a waste. These dumb b@#$&@s would kneel under the desk in the Oval Office and pull a Lewinsky before they’d go against their Messiah-in-Chief. It really sucks to be a conservative in the land of fruits and nuts.

  • Kevin Krom

    I mean, it’s not like anyone PREDICTED that this was going to happen from the very beginning or anything. It’s all such a big surprise! Tell more more about these concepts called “logic” and “causality”…

  • JimmyNeutron

    I would love to have time. If I did I could show that a favorite lib/progressive “trick” is not to raise taxes, or raise them “a little bit”…but nobody ever takes into account fees, and things such as this cap on FSA contributions. These are very much “taxes” in a sense, but they are not called that and Hussein will be able to claim “I didn’t raise taxes on the middle class”. Actually, these kinds of increases are worse than tax increases on the middle class because they are regressive taxes. The less you make, the bigger hit it is. Why can’t we have Republicans that can explain this simply? Why didn’t the Republicans have their own version of health reform plan done by the time the dems got done with PPACA – to compare and contrast for the American people? Why do the very people that get hurt the worst continue to vote for the people whipping them…and why are the Republicans so incompetent as to not be able to shift that narrative?

    • Garth Haycock

      It’s tough for the GOP to shift that narrative when the media are the biggest Obama cheerleaders.

      • JimmyNeutron

        I understand. Here I will post my ideas and thoughts – my hope is to become some kind of cult-like guru and such.

        1) We need to “occupy the media!”. Stop supporting it at all. No paid subscriptions, etc. If you can’t get the media to do their job…kill it. The largest disgrace in this country is the lack of an aggressive and bipartisan media. We need to take some of the Crossroads GPS money that Rove didn’t piss away on ineffectual advertising and use it to build a public campaign against the media and against media bias. Remember when the Occupy thugs were going to the homes of bankers and protesting? Why aren’t we in “Occupy the media” going to the most egregious members of the media, their bosses, and protesting (peacefully) about how they suck at their job and are destroying America?

        2) I’ve seen calls for breaking up the banks – Huntsman did it during the primary season and others have stated this as well. I agree with this – Dodd-Frank may as well have been written by the very largest banks and it is designed to help the big get bigger at the expense of the small banks. Take a look at the top-10 banks (out of 6,500 banks total). The top-10 banks have way more in assets than the bottom 6,490 banks combined (just a guess, but I bet that is close – I could find out if I had more time today). Anyway – Washington DC and Wall Street and not separate entities – they are one in the same – with Wall Street paying for a lot of favorable legislation on both sides of the aisle. It is an incestuous relationship and we need to kill that relationship. So, here’s the idea – let’s break up the big banks! We don’t need a multi-thousand page bill to do it either – let’s go kill them ourselves. Here’s how: If you are a customer of a top-50 bank…go withdraw your money. Then, take your money to a locally owned community bank, or local credit union. These are financial institutions that are lending in YOUR community, are based in your community and are helping YOUR community – not funding asinine pay and ideas on Wall Street or paying for lobbyists in DC. This is a revolution that can start tomorrow, needs no firearms or violence, and doesn’t take a government bill to enact. Those large banks depend on your deposits…so don’t feed them – feed your local bank instead. All it takes is a smile and the phrase “I’d like to withdraw my money and close my account today” to make this revolution work. They can’t stop you from doing it either. This is something the Tea Parties could support hand in hand with the Occupy wackos – we should get a grass-roots movement started.

        • Dave Slattery

          I love it. I posted #2 and we will begin this IMMEDIATELY! THANKS!

          • JimmyNeutron

            Posted where? Let me know if I can help!

        • Garth Haycock

          Excellent points. I’m ready to sign on as the first member of your cult!

          • JimmyNeutron

            OK! So far we have a cult/movement of two – that’s a start!

    • http://twitter.com/crazytas1 ricci

      it matters not wether they voted D or R its teh same party period now looks like the RINO’s are going to cave on the fiscal cliff as well and allow them to raise more taxes………isn’t it a wonderful thing

      • JimmyNeutron

        I feel you man.

    • Terry

      Republicans did offer several changes to Obamacare. Dem controlled House and Senate would have none of it. That’s why it passed without one single Republican vote. Don’t forget, Dems held control of the Congress since 2007. Repubs couldn’t bring anything to the floor for a vote unless Pelosi and Reid approved. Now House is Repub and at least 30 times has passed a bill to repeal Obamacare (and a budget and bunches of other good things) but Reid won’t bring them up for a vote in the senate.

    • Vennoye

      You can say everything you want to, a million times, but if the media the left listens to will not report it, what good does saying it do? But this media goes even farther on anything they report. They twist it all out of context and the message is reviled.

    • http://www.facebook.com/john.segundo.52 John Segundo

      Also see Dodd-Frank. The banks just pass the cost on to their consumers as fees. My bank now charges a 15.00 per month fee for savings accounts below a $15,000 balance…

      • JimmyNeutron

        YES! Another “fee” which is actually a regressive tax imposed by democrats. They do suck.

    • Back 4 More

      They’re on the same team.

    • Back 4 More

      They’re on the same team.

    • R Stewart

      They never explained the cut to FSA or removing OTC items.

      I agree on the media bias issue. There was an article on Yahoo a few weeks after the President was sworn in. It listed 15 items that the media blasted Bush, but ignored Obama doing the exact same thing.

      Hurricane Sandy response – worse than Katrina, but the media ignores it. Sending U.S. Forces into Libya – no condemnation, but zap Bush for WMDs in Iraq. For those who don’t know, plenty of high ranking Democrats believed there were WMDs in Iraq. In a 2008 interview, Senator Clinton said she had independent verification of WMDs in Iraq (in response to a jab at her being less smart than Bush on the WMD question). Rampant voter fraud – silence. There were at least 12 recounts funded by numerous liberal groups after the 2000 election. Each one showed Bush still winning. There was a small article about how 65,000 NY voters also voted in Florida (breakdown; 48% Democrat; 20% Third Party/other; 32% Republican). That’s a net gain of 10,400+ illegal Gore votes over the illegal Bush votes. Yet, the media ignored the article and spent tons of money funding recounts to try and come up with a Gore victory. Finally, after at least 13 liberal recounts (I gave up counting around recount 12), they finally (ignoring the 10,400+ illegal NY Gore votes) came up with a recount that said maybe Gore would have won if everything the liberals wanted to have happened actually did happen. Even then, it was only a maybe, it wasn’t a guaranteed “Gore won” result.

  • Jack Deth

    I’m recalling a slightly ironic car ad jingle from the 1980s.

    Dedicated to all those blithering, misguided miscreants who believed Obama was NOT an Ethiopian Tele Marketer and took him at his word.

    “You wanted it!… You got it!… Obama!”
    (With apologies to Toyota)

    • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

      I thought you were referring to Joe Isuzu.

      “Obamacare will lower costs!”

      “You can keep your Doctor!”

      • Jack Deth

        Hi, Tug:

        I liked David Leisure’s Joe Isuzu commercials. Especially the ones with subtitled translations (the truth) as Joe finished a sentence.

        Also the earlier ones he did for Yellow Pages playing a very Joe Friday like character from ‘Dragnet’

    • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

      @disqus_sd8CCAl8aq:disqus ~ My Toyota Tundra Crew Max (Yes, I do drive a big honking bitch of a truck) and I forgive you. To continue with the 80’s theme ~ it was like, so totally worth it and like, they are so dumb and like so ignorant.

      • Jack Deth

        Lisa:

        YOU RAWK!!!

        • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

          @disqus_sd8CCAl8aq:disqus ~ Have you been talking to my son? LoL

    • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

      @disqus_sd8CCAl8aq:disqus ~ My Toyota Tundra Crew Max (Yes, I do drive a big honking bitch of a truck) and I forgive you. To continue with the 80’s theme ~ it was like, so totally worth it and like, they are so dumb and like so ignorant.

  • Joseph Phillips

    Uhhh…. now we’ll all say in unison “I told you so!”

    • dkhilly

      The “I told you so” sweetness is lost in the bitterness of how this is hurting our family budget :(

      • Joseph Phillips

        I’m sorry to hear you’re hurting. Hoping more and more people see what they’ve elected and things turn around quickly.

        • Joe W.

          They MAY start to turn around in about 4 years, friends…..

          • Auzzievick

            Joe: And you thought 2010 was a “reactionary” change. Well, we still have 2014 & I’m already working hard towards it being a change in Congress much like 2010 was.
            NOBODY will get out “alive” of this health care debacle unless, of course, they are independently weathy. My & hubby’s Medicare just went up from an Advanatage Plan we have from “$0” to “$36” per person. Not a fortune, but won’t actually KNOW what all has changed only if we need to use it for anything big. Believe me! Example: Back in 2011, the AVERAGE knee replacement was $44,000! Even WITH MEDICARE, I’m still paying for mine from back in April.
            Those of you with parents/grandparents on Medicare, are nowhere better off than you employed esp. with the BILLIONS taken out of Medicare to help finance regular Obamacare. I’m a retired nurse & it boggles the mind to think of how this is going to hit between 1/1/2013 & 1/1/2014 when it is fully implemented. Wait until they find out some parts simply won’t work.This will be B.O.’s LEGACY & it will be talked about for YEARS as the dumbest thing our government has ever done! EVER! Good Luck everyone; just try to stay well.

          • dwsmokin

            Some of my clients weren’t even allowed to keep their advantage plan-the funding cuts to pay for Omamacare were too steep. Obama= looking out for seniors huh?

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            I’m now considering my planned new home destinations according to Senate & House races for 2014 + bonus points for swing states. Seriously. I had been planning on relocating, but this country’s apparent explosion of idiocy has kind of altered my method for determining options.

          • Bronco

            We thought that this year and look at us now. Bad things are accellerating with every day’s news.

          • Joe W.

            True that. This is what you get when you vote for skin color over qualification.

      • Bronco

        I’m not saying it with hate just with a sad kind of sinking feeling for all of us!!! As for us senior citizens, we won’t know until we experience it or our friends do what is going to happen to our benefits.

    • Robert Jackson

      My parents are considering getting legally separated in order to save money on taxes, thanks to all of the taxes going up everywhere in every way

      • justlisa

        Sad….but, I’ve actually been hearing a lot of this… And people who aren’t going to get married… :(

        • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

          :( Holy moley!

        • R Stewart

          It doesn’t pay to be married when it comes tax time, except in rare instances. If you’re both working, your combined income can put you in a higher tax bracket, or raise taxes/lower deductions.

          I laugh when people talk about the tax benefits for getting married. They reduced the tax penalty for being married a while back, but they didn’t eliminate them.

          If anyone is considering marriage, compare your current individual tax level to what it will be after you get married. Most of the time, you’ll pay more in taxes after you get married for various reasons.

          If you’re about to draw Social Security as a married couple, most of the time you are better off divorcing first. Again, do the math if both partners have been working.

      • justlisa

        Sad….but, I’ve actually been hearing a lot of this… And people who aren’t going to get married… :(

  • Marcy Cook

    What I find so “shocking” is all the people who are “shocked”…it’s not like they weren’t warned. Maybe now they will pay attention before they vote for skin color.

    • Emily B

      That’s what I was going to say! Did they actually believe that cost would go down?!

      • Kevin Krom

        They thought it would be free.

        • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

          lol.
          Silly people. Free has a price tag. :)

          • Scott Dunn

            free is alway’s more expensive

          • redrick

            There is no free lunch. even when they are out to lunch for all you obamaniacs. Next time ask the dems to kiss you before they feck the hell out of you

          • Bert Carlson

            Hey, don’t forget the Carbon Tax coming.

          • lainer51

            and the “death” tax going up along with the new real estate tax, along with ……….to hell with it, not enough room to name them all!!!

        • Just Another Guy

          It is “free” as in “someone else is paying for it” in the moocher class.

          They don’t believe in the basic concept of TANSTAAFL

          Or probably, they don’t care, since it is “free”

      • Bronco

        TugboatPhil. . . Hate to agree with anything so dumb. . . but I do. How so many people could have been so duped by promises (again!!!) is beyond my comprehension.

      • Joe Smith

        this is what happens when people who ordinarily dont vote are forced to vote and have no reason why

      • Jazzee

        yes most think it is all FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

      No. Skin color is more important to them than anything of substance.

      • Bert Carlson

        You are so right. Thanks Liberals. Enjoy your communism.

        • http://www.facebook.com/nicole.g.pace Nicole Gillins Pace

          Basic common sense should be a requirement to vote… Obama voters have no common sense – or they just weren’t listening… oh wait, they were just voting for the free check and cell phone… i hope those obama voters get what they voted for! wait, we will too… screwed.

          • Bodongs

            It truly is wonderful to watch you misconstrue the misconception of one poorly educated community to a large portion of the entire population. That makes you seem awfully informed.

          • soJa

            “misconstrue the misconception” is the same as saying “misinterpret the misunderstanding”. What is that supposed to mean and who talks like that? Trying to sound smart fail; but I digress.

            I would certainly contend it is the majority of obama voters (not just the phone recipients) who are uneducated, at the very least, where government, policy, and the Constitution are concerned.

            Some are willfully ignorant, some obstinately blind, some are misguided/uneducated, and some are just plain ol dumb. The only other excuse I can think of is they don’t like America (but I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt since they live here). Call it whatever you like but the end result was all the same.

          • lainer51

            LOL!! Was wondering how many more “mis” words were going to be used…

          • John W. Kerr

            Bodongs; We applaud your zeal to skillfully misapprehend that which passes for intelligent commentary, and in turn verifying the truth of the statement itself! You’re a peach of institutionalized propaganda and surely a 51%er re-electing the marxist imbecile!

          • Bodongs

            It truly is wonderful to watch you misconstrue the misconception of one poorly educated community to a large portion of the entire population. That makes you seem awfully informed.

          • Just Another Guy

            I’m thinking it is time to keep working towards going Galt. Already started reducing my taxable exposure by closing my consulting business on 12/15/2012.

          • Emjay Graykat

            Unfortunately the public education system in this country has been gutted from the inside so that we produce more useful idiots than educated individuals.

          • puca58

            Go to lexingtoninstitute.org and read paper ‘Radicalization of Teacher Education Programs in the US’…very interesting.

          • Emjay Graykat

            Unfortunately the public education system in this country has been gutted from the inside so that we produce more useful idiots than educated individuals.

        • Bodongs

          Somebody clearly has no idea what communism is.

          • Joe Smith

            if you are being forced to do something against the constitution by a dictator its communism

          • Elena0412

            I certainly do; I lived under it for the first few years of my life. Guess what? This is starting to look a lot like it.

        • Bodongs

          Somebody clearly has no idea what communism is.

        • Jazzee

          excellent post…………………..the dictator has arrived and the other side sits

    • Bronco

      My thoughts exactly. We conservatives were totally ignored when we said this president doesn’t even like the USA much less won’t to help the USA. He is destroying us as a powerful nation . . .

      • Jazzee

        and the other side is silent as usual scared wimps they are
        email them and yell at them to wake up

    • Bert Carlson

      They weren’t warned. In order to be warned, you must first be paying attention and interested in learning something you don’t already know.

      • lainer51

        and it also helps to get your head out of your …………….

        • Jazzee

          wow elections have huge consequences
          4 more yrs of these idiots cannot take it

    • Just Another Guy

      Yep.

      Explained this to a friend of mine. He changed his vote to Romney as a result of this exposure and that of the other increases in taxes headed our way in just a little over a month.

      You know though, those that don’t pay taxes don’t care. No skin in the game. Just hands out, demanding their “fair share.”

      Grasshoppers. Without fiddles. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATuBscFxi9U

  • Guest

    I know. I’m furious about the FSA cut. With the healthcare issues in our family, we really need that! We all lose.:(

  • Lexikin

    Yet somehow, someway this will end up either Bush’s or Romney’s fault. “The rich were allowed to make money all these years, that’s why!”

  • Lord Foggybottom

    Of course, the liberals will blame the insurance companies or the Republicans for this debacle. Obama is so untouchable by leftists, if he ran a dog fighting ring, PeTA would not only donate dogs, they’d cook the loser so he could eat it off of some model’s ass.

  • Joe W.

    Y’all get what you vote for. all that “hope & change” B.S. What makes anyone believe that Barack Obama has ANY clue at all of how to govern the country??

  • http://www.twitter.com/PSUbrat PSUbrat

    I JUST heard this exact same conversation in the women’s locker room at the gym last week. One woman was complaining that her premiums were going up and her FSA was going down. A second woman chimed in with the same woe. Then the first said, “I thought Obamacare was supposed to fix this!” I couldn’t help myself. I laughed out loud. Yes, I received dirty looks. I just shook my head and walked away since engaging them would’ve been a waste of time. I figured trying to school them on socialism and the free market would’ve fallen on deaf ears ’cause math is hard for libs – as is common sense.

    • Auzzievick

      So very true! There is NO talking to them; their “logic” defies,……….. well LOGIC. I hate to say it, but I’m starting to get a “thrill” outta their misery. Hope it gets worse. ( So sorry for those though who have young families & have been trying to live a decent, responsible life. But B.O. has made that almost impossible.) The Germans have a word for enjoying the misery of others-Schadenfreude. I must been a Nazi in another life-rofl.
      I actually had one tell me ( before the election ) that he hoped that Medicare would be there for him if the REPUBLICANS didn’t “gut it.” I can’t wait to hear him bitch about it now that “reality” will be hitting with hurricane force winds. He’s used it for several operations-orthopedic-& just got his hip replaced. Wait until “elective” surgery is put “on the back burner,” much like in Canada.

      • Deeann

        There’s no talking with them or arguing with them. They are set on what they believe. It hurts to hear them argue through ignorance and vile, hurtful language.

    • whyIoughta

      As I walked in a parking lot, past a car with Obama stickers all over it, the couple emerged, arguing about how the insurance is going ‘way up’, and how could they afford it. I didn’t engage, but explained to my kids that some people are beyond stupid and just blind with racism.

      • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

        @e84ba93e2daddeee51ee4754454e62e1:disqus ~ Sad thing is they don’t even have “buyers remorse”…

      • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

        @e84ba93e2daddeee51ee4754454e62e1:disqus ~ Sad thing is they don’t even have “buyers remorse”…

      • http://twitter.com/anzatree Lynn Evans

        The saddest thing though is that is what Obama wanted all along, to KILL private health insurance so everyone would be forced to go to government single payer.

        • R Stewart

          I have FEHBP as a retired federal employee. The premiums are 3x as expensive and the copays and deductibles are 10x as expensive than when I worked for a small (2,500 employee) company or county government (3,500 employees),.

          That’s why I’m against the federal government coming up with a single payer plan. As someone who also has Medicare, it’s no better. Most doctors can’t afford to have a lot of Medicare (or Medicaid) patients so you’re limited on who you can see if they are full up on their Medicare patient limit. The limit isn’t government imposed in the broadest sense, but the low payments means doctors lose money on Medicare patients so they have to limit them. I had surgery (base cost $4,900.50, but Medicare reduced the cost to $675).

          Obamacare relied on $500+ billion in Medicare reimbursement cuts to generate a $140 billion surplus. They knew the cuts would never happen. Every time they vote to cut, they vote to reinstate the cuts. Imagine how many doctors and other medical providers would stop accepting Medicare if they successfully implemented the cuts.

          Without the cuts, the deficits will skyrocket in a few years as Medicare eats up a large chunk of the budget. Medicare/Medicaid are the second largest budget item now, only Social Security has a larger chunk of the budget (for now). In less than 10 years, Medicare (without Medicaid) will become the #1 budget item.

          The subsidies for poor people to purchase insurance won’t last as the government realizes it can’t tax the rich enough to make up the growing deficits (at 100% tax rate for the rich, it would barely dent the current deficits).

          The President and Congress have both ignored the eventuality of deficit spending. At some point, people, countries, etc. will stop buying our debt. The President wants to add at least 4-6 trillion more in debt over the next 4 years. China almost stopped buying our debt when the deficit hit $1+ trillion early in the President’s first term.

          • Jazzee

            and yet obama won 4 more yrs Lordy where were the people with brains

          • Kevin Reed

            Voting for Romney! Unfortunately there weren’t enough of us!

          • Isahiah62

            does anyone here remember 0’s promise to CUT the fraud in Medicare/Medicaid BEFORE he implemented ACA?? I do- all Federal run govt programs are the easiest to SCAM and the welfare suckers know exactly how to do this and teach each other how. Every illegal knows how to buy a fake ID and SS# and do the same- BILLIONS not millions are going to fraudsters- and the legal scams like everyone needs a hover chair- why do you need a middleman? – what do they get out of this if you doctor says you need it you should get it- direct from Medicare- HOWEVER – these scammers ruin it for the people who do really need these things- My firend has MS- she has to jump through hoops to get any help and then fight for every day of physical therapy- the only thing that works for he they don’t cover but one month of a year- if she wanted drugs? Anyone can get the govt to pay for a buttload of em- medical equipment you don’t need– ditto- this program will be a scammers delight

        • http://www.righthook38.com righthook38

          I said that until I was blue in the face, and people just looked at me like I was stupid. The sad thing is people still don’t get it. They complain, but can’t seem to link it back to Obamacare. Amazing….

          • Jazzee

            I tried to and no one listens/cares
            they will….trust me….the dictator has arrived

      • http://twitter.com/anzatree Lynn Evans

        The saddest thing though is that is what Obama wanted all along, to KILL private health insurance so everyone would be forced to go to government single payer.

    • sb36695

      I’ve encountered people who don’t know the difference between federal and state taxes! They could NEVER understand what’s coming with health care. I think we’re past the tipping point.

    • stuckinIL4now

      I applaud your restraint. I would have had to engage them if for nothing other than to tell them how idiotic they were and are for believing anything a libturd says and for not checking things out–especially Obamuh and Obamuhcare.

    • stuckinIL4now

      I applaud your restraint. I would have had to engage them if for nothing other than to tell them how idiotic they were and are for believing anything a libturd says and for not checking things out–especially Obamuh and Obamuhcare.

    • http://twitter.com/Daisy761 Daisy76

      Your laugh said it all…

    • http://twitter.com/Daisy761 Daisy76

      Your laugh said it all…

  • Grumpa Grumpus

    That these “revenue enhancers” are monsterously regressive should make all the little Dingleberries happy.

    It’s what they want.

    Why do I say that?

    Remember a few days ago I pointed out that a Dingleberry that posts here didn’t really care or have concern for the unfortunate people in our country— it was just a game to that Dingleberry!

    It’s response was to post “calm down grampa.”

    The problem is these people, with a very few exceptions, really do know they are destroying people’s lives and this country— they simply don’t care.

    They use their mock indignation and “sympathy for the poor” as a club. They laugh when you try to turn it around by pointing out they are with their “cure” hurting far larger numbers of people far more seriously than the original situation. Why?

    Because helping was never the point!

    The wrecked lives they create are considered acceptable loss for their ends. And if you ever try to pin them down you’ll find there’s no ceiling to acceptable number of deaths.

    Have you ever heard the expression “you have to break a few eggs to make an omlet.”?

    Do you know where it comes from?

    It refers to people! It was coined by an American Journalist writing on what would become known as the Holodomor. Look it up.

    This guy, Walter Duranty, was working for the NYT, loved Communism, Lenin & Old Joe, and for years lied through his teeth about the pacification via starvation being practiced on the Ukraine.

    We know he did because he wrote the truth in his private journals. He said it was “unfortunate that Stalin must take these measures— but he’s trying to produce the Evolved Man, The New Man, The Man of Tomorrow! And if some must give their lives for the advancement of the Race, well, you can’t make an omlet without breaking eggs!”

    The Omlet Dingleberry’s planned will be the biggest ever.

    • Auzzievick

      Thanks for the info. I’ll google it. Love finding out little ditties of info. not often known. BTW, haven’t heard “dingleberries” in a long time; you MUST be old-like me-lol.)

  • Streetiebird

    Over the last two years healthcare premiums have gone up… at the slowest rate seen over the last 50 years.

    • Dex

      Only if you use by percent. But that is just math trickery as the premiums are larger and larger, the percent they have to go up is less and less to move more money around.

      • Streetiebird

        Thanks for backing me up. Premiums are getting larger at the slowest rate in the last 50 years.

        • Dex

          No, they are getting higher, in true cost. What’s bigger 25% of $10 or 5% of $200?

          • Streetiebird

            So how about the most recent 15 years. We’re at a record low increase even if you look only at those years.

          • Michelle

            “We are going to work with you to lower your premiums by $2,500. We will not wait 20 years from now to do it, or 10 years from now to do it. We will do it by the end of my first term as president.” Obama 2008

          • Back 4 More

            You’re just confusing big bird with facts.

          • Michelle

            Folks like birdie are hilarious. Obama’s promise with the passage of AHA was that premiums would be cut on avg. $2,500 per family, but…the majority are reporting their premiums have increased and Birdie’s argument is that the increases are slower than the past few decades? First, that’s absolutely BS, second, the promise wasn’t that he’d slow down their increase, his promise was that he’d decrease them. Solid, irrefutable fact – that was his promise. Solid, irrefutable fact – the exact opposite is happening. Folks like Birdie will grasp at ANY straw to avoid these facts.

          • Back 4 More

            You’re just confusing big bird with facts.

          • $36544368

            Thank you, Michelle…I knew I heard that somewhere, and I’m so glad you quoted it…I typed it in my post further up but couldn’t remember how I heard it exactly.

          • Streetiebird

            Yeah, too bad the Republicans didn’t want a public option, then at least we could have had competition in the system. Oh well.

          • Michelle

            You keep telling yourself that lie.

          • Streetiebird

            Dear self: The Republicans didn’t want a public option, and Obama caved to them again. It could have saved us a ton of cash, but oh well.

          • Michelle

            Dear Birdie – the vast majority of Americans did not want the public option and it would have saved us nothing, it was have cost us more. And Obama didn’t “cave”, it didn’t pass the Senate. Your King isn’t the boss of the Senate or the House. The People are. Please, get educated – your guesswork is so off the mark you’re becoming nothing by fodder for comedy around here.

          • Streetiebird

            In late 2009 the Public option had broad public support (57% support, 40% oppose). http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/19/AR2009101902451.html But I’m CERTAIN that you have evidence to back up your claim that the “vast majority” did not want it.

          • Streetiebird

            Dear self: The Republicans didn’t want a public option, and Obama caved to them again. It could have saved us a ton of cash, but oh well.

          • Michelle

            “we can cut the average family’s premium by about $2,500 per year.” Obama 2008

    • Dee M.

      Really? Then, obviously, the taxpayers are paying for yours because all of us who pay our own have not only seen premiums go up, but co-pays and prescription costs as well.

      • RealityBitesBack

        Check the name on the comment. She should have just called herself “SoledadsTalkingPoints”.

      • RealityBitesBack

        Check the name on the comment. She should have just called herself “SoledadsTalkingPoints”.

    • dkhilly

      Lets reevaluate those numbers in 2019 (after a few years of Obamacare in full effect). Most of these rate increase hits, and FSA caps) don’t start going into effect until next year. They were conveniently timed to hit post election.

    • Michelle

      But Obama’s promises weren’t that he’d slow the rate of their increase, his promise was he’d get them lowered by avg. $2,500 per family per year. He repeatedly made this promise during his first bid for President and even said he would get this promise fulfilled by the end of his first term. AHA has resulted in higher premiums, not the lowered premiums he promised.

      • Streetiebird

        As I said in another comment, if the Republicans hadn’t blocked the public option we could have added competition to the system, which could have lowered rates even further than Obamacare will already lower them once more people get insurance.

        • Michelle

          It’s not surprising your explanation for Obama not keeping a promise is to blame the Republicans. His promise was not, “If the Republicans cooperate with me…” nor was it, “Premiums will decrease only if the Public Option is included…” The sole purpose of the public option was to open the door to get this country on a single-payer government run healthcare system. It’s failing in the UK, it fails in Canada. That aside, you suggest that the more people who get insured, the lower the rates will be. Not true. I’ve already lived this out – I was a resident of MA when this very same law was enacted. More people became insured under Commonwealth Care (subsidized healthcare that is not cheap) and it didn’t lower the premiums from private providers. So keep your guesswork, I’ll go with what I already experienced. Insurance rates will not be going down with more people being insured. And you miss the point entirely – Obama’s promise was that premiums would decrease $2,500/family by the end of his first term. That’s two months away – most folks are getting notices their premiums will be increasing as of 2013…that would be the end of Obama’s first term. Fail.

          • Streetiebird

            I still support Obama, despite this “promise” being broken. I love my Obamacare, and I think the rest of America deserves healthcare too!

          • Michelle

            That was just one of many promises broken. We’re done here Birdie – you’re just a brick wall Liberal with no interest in facts, details, truth..interesting only in waving around your pom-poms for the con artist. Take care Birdie.

          • Streetiebird

            I am keenly interested in facts, would you care to provide some to back up your claim of “Many promises broken”? I made a list just the other day on this very site of promises kept vs broken. The broken promises paled in comparison to the kept promises.

          • Streetiebird

            I still support Obama, despite this “promise” being broken. I love my Obamacare, and I think the rest of America deserves healthcare too!

    • RealityBitesBack

      You must be an employee – NOT an employer.

      I’ve got plans in 3 states, they have all increased by at least 20% each year. Previously the most expensive jump was 9% in a year. In addition, those plans have larger co-pays, deductibles and lower coverage.

    • RealityBitesBack

      You must be an employee – NOT an employer.

      I’ve got plans in 3 states, they have all increased by at least 20% each year. Previously the most expensive jump was 9% in a year. In addition, those plans have larger co-pays, deductibles and lower coverage.

  • GEORGE_W_TUSH

    Sounds like a bunch of greedy a-holes who are trying to re-spin the last election. The Democrats won, you now have have another mandate that the rest of the country thinks you are obligated (and able) to meet. Why don’t you stop whining, blaming the voters and screwing you lowest paid employees and FOLLOW THE FEDERAL LAW mandates LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. There are mandates the government requires of me that I don’t love (why Can’t I drive 100 mph anyway? Just joking). The difference is I accept that, as a part of a larger country, I have societal obligations. Evidently, being rich means having a tantrum when the rest of the country decides it doesn’t want to be your personal butler and asks you to lend a hand. You sound like my 13-year-old when I ask her to load the dishwasher. Papa John, REALLY??? You can’t make enough money if you miss an extra 11 cents a pizza?? The dime is so important that you will hold you dishwashers hostage?? Grow up!

    • Dex

      They are following the law. By cutting their hours below the cut off point in order to save them money under Obamacare. He said that he would have to raise costs and cut hours. It wasn’t ether/or, it was both.

    • Dee M.

      I am neither rich, nor having a tantrum, but am middle class and have a brain. Therefore, I am able to have my own independent thought process. I don’t give a DAMN what the “rest of the country thinks” I am “obligated (and able) to meet.” Bottom line: I work, have pulled myself out of poverty, raised my own children, paid for my own healthcare, housing, and food. I am very happy to help the elderly or TRULY disabled (and there is a huge discrepancy in the number of truly disabled and those “claiming” to be disabled in order to avoid work!!) However, I DO NOT want to pay for healthcare OR abortions OR birth control for illegal immigrants, freeloaders, baby mamas and the like. I pay for mine – they can pay for theirs. If every liberal who thinks we should pay more taxes would just write a check and send it in, then the rest of us wouldn’t have to foot the bill for what you “think” we should pay.

    • dkhilly

      Okay lets assume they are greedy, heartless CEOs. Why then did people expect them to personally take the hit? Why did they pass this knowing the greedy, heartless CEOs would pass costs on to employees and consumers? Did they expect a magical, sudden change of heart just for Obamacare? Even if the CEos are all heartless and greedy, there’s no excuse for not seeing this coming.

    • RealityBitesBack

      Federal law mandates that only citizens and people who are actually alive can vote. Federal law mandates that polling locations be established on military bases for deployed service men & women. Federal law mandates that the Congress pass a budget every fiscal year, but the Senate has declined. Let’s just remember all of the Federal laws when using that battle cry and not just the ones that send a thrill up your liberal leg.

      By cutting back hours on any employee, businesses WILL be following the federal law and complying with the new Obama Health Care Tax. It’s just too bad that you have elected people who don’t understand the economy, tax laws, small businesses, health insurance or the medical industry.

      It was the Democrat super majority that voted for this massive tax hike that impacts the most economically disadvantaged in our society. If you aren’t happy with the impact of their vote, YOU should take it up with THEM…. not the businesses that are following the very IRS tax code that the Democrats never read.

    • RealityBitesBack

      Federal law mandates that only citizens and people who are actually alive can vote. Federal law mandates that polling locations be established on military bases for deployed service men & women. Federal law mandates that the Congress pass a budget every fiscal year, but the Senate has declined. Let’s just remember all of the Federal laws when using that battle cry and not just the ones that send a thrill up your liberal leg.

      By cutting back hours on any employee, businesses WILL be following the federal law and complying with the new Obama Health Care Tax. It’s just too bad that you have elected people who don’t understand the economy, tax laws, small businesses, health insurance or the medical industry.

      It was the Democrat super majority that voted for this massive tax hike that impacts the most economically disadvantaged in our society. If you aren’t happy with the impact of their vote, YOU should take it up with THEM…. not the businesses that are following the very IRS tax code that the Democrats never read.

  • ImTheNana

    Elections have consequences

  • kwaker

    Ya reap what you sow…and the rest of us get hosed too..Thanks for voting that nitwit back in!!

  • civisisus

    Wow, there’s some profound stupidity up in here. Only a few have pointed that out for the past 5 decades our vaunted private health ‘system’ has managed to hold health care cost inflation at only 2x to 3x the overall inflation rate – all while providing health care to a smaller share of the populace.

    We haven’t been getting value for the $ we lay out for health treatment for generations. It’s way past time to do something about it. Team Dumbass (Romney’s advisors) would tell you health reform is a simple matter of tax relief, of getting out of the way of the current market participants (who’ve had so much to do with screwing the thing up in the first place). NO. NO, IT IS NOT. Lots of behaviors have to change, by a lot of parties to the health care ‘transaction’ – patients, their family members, their clinicians, health system executives. The whole mess needs to be reshaped.

    ACA is far from perfect – but it contains many features that will help bring our health ‘marketplace’ nearer to the 21st century, without causing wholesale damage to more people in the process.

    • Jamie Stutts

      Ah yes…the democrat in the room. You speak of us not getting value for our money spent, and then tell us that ObamaCare will bring us “nearer to the 21st century” in terms of our healtcare marketplace. Well, you may be right… if the21st century model is socialist and stops taking the patient into account because the government says it’s too expensive to provide the treatment.

      You stand up there on your pretty little pedastal telling all of intellectual inferiors about how healthcare can’t be changed through market factors, but only by government involvement…because that’s the way other countries do it. Well guess what? Those market factors…such as open borders providers countrywide, tax relief to lower income families to assist with healthcare, and less regulation on the insurance market would by necessity drive down healthcare costs. I live in the great state of Minnesota. We have only 13 sanctioned insurance providers in our entire state. There are over 3000 nationwide. If we opened healthcare providers borders and allowed them to sell across state lines, do you not think the law of supply and demand would work? Right there healthcare costs would drop dramatically while the level of service would rise to the expectations of the consumer…to do otherwise would be to go out of business.
      So, please take your “better than you” attitude and go back to Canada where you can wait 4-5 years to start chemo if you get cancer, wait 6-8 months for a knee replacement, wait 2-3 months to see a Dr. for a wellness visit, and be misdiagnosed by the Dr. because he’s paid a salary nowhere near commensurate with his education and skills and simply doesn’t care because there’s nothing you can do about it.
      For now though, you enjoy the gubmint helfcare, and don’t complain when it bites you in the rear end…you wanted it, remember? :)

    • Jamie Stutts

      Ah yes…the democrat in the room. You speak of us not getting value for our money spent, and then tell us that ObamaCare will bring us “nearer to the 21st century” in terms of our healtcare marketplace. Well, you may be right… if the21st century model is socialist and stops taking the patient into account because the government says it’s too expensive to provide the treatment.

      You stand up there on your pretty little pedastal telling all of intellectual inferiors about how healthcare can’t be changed through market factors, but only by government involvement…because that’s the way other countries do it. Well guess what? Those market factors…such as open borders providers countrywide, tax relief to lower income families to assist with healthcare, and less regulation on the insurance market would by necessity drive down healthcare costs. I live in the great state of Minnesota. We have only 13 sanctioned insurance providers in our entire state. There are over 3000 nationwide. If we opened healthcare providers borders and allowed them to sell across state lines, do you not think the law of supply and demand would work? Right there healthcare costs would drop dramatically while the level of service would rise to the expectations of the consumer…to do otherwise would be to go out of business.
      So, please take your “better than you” attitude and go back to Canada where you can wait 4-5 years to start chemo if you get cancer, wait 6-8 months for a knee replacement, wait 2-3 months to see a Dr. for a wellness visit, and be misdiagnosed by the Dr. because he’s paid a salary nowhere near commensurate with his education and skills and simply doesn’t care because there’s nothing you can do about it.
      For now though, you enjoy the gubmint helfcare, and don’t complain when it bites you in the rear end…you wanted it, remember? :)

    • $36544368

      I wouldn’t wipe my keister with the paper the ACA is printed on, nor would I use it to line the bottom of my cat’s litter box. The “ACA is far from perfect”…did you read all the hundreds and hundreds of pages and come up to that conclusion? You’re worried more about the ‘marketplace’ than you are about how this is going to create major financial difficulties for everyone, from the disabled to the elderly…SMH

  • http://twitter.com/soxbruins A.E. Fougere

    FSA being capped is gonna hurt a lot next year… we are a family of 5 with one autistic child and another with a health condition (surgery for a medical implant plus medications each yr)… we blew through the max this yr… this is gonna be bad. PLUS premium cost increase, naturally…

    • dkhilly

      Our third is on the way, were planning on maxing out the FSA to pay for all that prenatal/delivery/post natal care stuff….no such luck now.

    • $36544368

      I have an autistic child, but thankfully he’s an adult now. That helps ‘some’. I feel so incredibly bad for people who relied on the FSA to help with things that weren’t covered under insurance for their autistic children (therapies, schooling, etc.)…honest to goodness, none of this makes any sense…but then neither did Nancy Pelosi when she said, ‘let’s just pass it and we’ll figure it out later’…and someone correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t congress exempt from having to have Obamacare?

  • Connie

    And my medicare premium will be going up also, plus remember if you like your insurance you can keep it, well that was bull he’s taking away my medicare advantage. All of us will suffer for people that don’t have the ambition to get a full time job with coverage. That;s the trick, you employer always provided coverage when you worked full time.

  • Leonard_Wood

    Yep yep, it all sucks. Heck my insurance company changed right after Obamacare was introduced. Went from a 30 dollar copay per visit to being 100% out of pocket for the first 2k per individual or 4k per family. So I used to go to the doc when needed and have to pay 30 bucks. Now if I or any of my family go to the doc it is 100% out of pocket until it has cost me 4k. (or for a single family member 2k) So I can only put 2.5k into FSA but it is 4k out of pocket. Where do I come up with the difference??

  • Lynn Beamon

    It’s a move to drive people away from private healthcare. Without people paying the premiums they go out of business and those without insurance go on the government plan. In the end all that will be left is the government plan. Viola, a single-payer socialist government helthcare system! Obama knew what he was doing…

    • Michelle

      It’s been his plan all along. He said as much several years ago. He knew he couldn’t simply establish a government healthcare system without serious resistance, so he did it this way – companies no longer offering medical or an employee’s premiums going up. Capping FSA (a tax increase, although he promised no new taxes in middle income). He’s leaving people with no choice. This has been his plan from the start and those of us paying attention recognize that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ben.monroe.927 Ben Monroe

    Liberals, er, I mean people, still have yet to realize that there’s nothing ‘free’ in this world. Somewhere along the line, SOMEBODY ALWAYS pays for it. And sometimes that someone is you. I guess they all thought it was gonna be free… or cheaper… or something like that.

  • hwy505

    Ulema Tweets on November 7 that she needs to :find a picture of the POTUS and post it on her door” – she is also a BMW Dealer and states that Romney should now tell the president where he was getting the 12 million jobs. Another moron who shot themselves in the foot – and yes it appears it is about the president being black as she is. More people need to say that!

  • whyIoughta

    WHY the hell did NOBODY listen when they were told all of this? Are people REALLY this effing stupid? I can’t even believe they have jobs being this stupid. So sick of the stupid, stepping in this sh*t everywhere and it’s only getting worse. Stupid dumb ignorant people. You should all be euthanized by the death panels.

    • http://twitter.com/wenegne Tamara D. Clark

      yes…people really ARE that effing stupid

  • $22639970

    Gee, you mean that the ObamAss is a f***ing liar just like we warned all you lefty queers? What a shocker!

  • http://twitter.com/RustyWare Rusty Ware

    I’m paying the same amount as last year… to get 10% less in co-insurance (read: $1000 less in coverage for the same amount). Not to mention, everything else went up by an average of 10% in things that come out of my pocket. FSA/HSA, we hardly knew ye.

  • http://twitter.com/Michele_RN Michele Carwile

    I love how with obamacare I will loose my health care. We have Tricare. Not only that but with rationing my incurable form of cancer will not be covered.. Top that off with I will get to pay for others to get the care they want.

    • http://www.facebook.com/peranut.norman Peranut Pam Norman

      Sorry to hear about your situation. It is really sad, I can only hope that you will find a cure by means of alternative medicine and lots of prayers to you.

  • Paul Edgewater

    We’re all just talking about the money part here, and that’s bad enough. Lest we forget death panels. This legislation is going to literally KILL us and our loved ones as we age. And it gets WORSE!! Why do we now need to disclose our PARTY AFFILIATION when registering in an exchange? We all know the answer to that question and we all shudder to think of what the reason may be. Good by USA. It was nice knowing you.

  • Maxwell

    Theirs is just starting to go up!? Lucky! My mine doubled in 2010!

    • stuckinIL4now

      This is another thing a lot of people don’t know. The health insurance industry began immediately in 2010 to raise rates, modify their business practices and scale down to prepare for it. I heard countless people in the insurance industry calling in to Rush and others on radio explaining what was going on in the industry, It wasn’t pretty then and it’s going to get a lot uglier very soon.

      • Maxwell

        I don’ think people realized that when you forced everyone to buy healthcare, including young reckless people like myself, rants become substantially higher, because the stupid crap young people often gets them thrown into the E.R., which is expensive for insurance companies. And us young people, we think we’re immortal, so we never cared to have healthcare until it was forced upon us. Young people not having healthcare is what mostly kept rates down.

        The only reason I have it, is because my Dad’s company covers it.

      • Maxwell

        I don’ think people realized that when you forced everyone to buy healthcare, including young reckless people like myself, rants become substantially higher, because the stupid crap young people often gets them thrown into the E.R., which is expensive for insurance companies. And us young people, we think we’re immortal, so we never cared to have healthcare until it was forced upon us. Young people not having healthcare is what mostly kept rates down.

        The only reason I have it, is because my Dad’s company covers it.

    • stuckinIL4now

      This is another thing a lot of people don’t know. The health insurance industry began immediately in 2010 to raise rates, modify their business practices and scale down to prepare for it. I heard countless people in the insurance industry calling in to Rush and others on radio explaining what was going on in the industry, It wasn’t pretty then and it’s going to get a lot uglier very soon.

  • Nadine Faber

    Those who voted for Obama and his administration will be waking up soon when what he promised and the reality is not the same at all. Much of these taxes and cuts were in there to read if you took the time. Two-tier society is what Obama and other corrupt politicians are going for. If they control your quality of care and whether or not you get treatment to live or no treatment and tell you “we will give you comfort care” which is another term for “assisted suicide”, your wages are held hostage and the IRS can take whatever they want, they restrict or strip you of freedoms and rights, then they win and it becomes a dictatorship instead of “We the People”. Those of you who are so in love with obama now get to live the consequences of your STUPID VOTING DECISIONS: we all pay the price for your ignorance.

  • http://twitter.com/KALKAM71 KALKAM

    A tenant asked if they could put political signs up…I informed all of them they could…4 did not display signs, some went for Romney, some went for Obama…

    Obama tenants are seeing a rent increase to cover my costs and offset the cost of freezing the other tenant’s rent.

    Consequences…

    • OHNESA

      I applaud your genius! Well played!

    • Vennoye

      I love this!! Thank you for making me laugh!!

  • Robert Jackson

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA INSTANT KARMA. All of the Obama supporters fell right for this crap. Just wait folks it gets worse, much, much worse. Obamacare and his policies are going to send us into a very deep recession, if not a depression.

    All of these stupid indigents thought they were getting something free. I argued with so many trying to explain to them that it was a horrible bill, all I got was a bunch of crap responses that people had heard from the Liberal media about how good it was going to be.

    Just wait, not only will health insurance and healthcare costs sky rocket, we are going to have a total lack of doctors to treat people now, so many doctors are going to drop out or go private. Soon only the rich who can pay doctors cash will get real healthcare.

    Good job retarded Obama zombies

    • R Stewart

      Robert, a point lost in the fight involved the lack of infrastructure to implement Obamacare. It pointed out that we needed to build the medical infrastructure before passing Obamacare. There were several articles mentioning how England and Canada are both facing G.P. doctor shortages because the doctors were limited in how much they could make. A lot of those doctors came here, but we’ll see them leave once the effects of rationing kicks in. We’ve seen it here to a smaller degree with caps. In some areas, a doctor only gets X amount of $/patient/year. Patients who exceed that cap can still be seen by the doctor, but for free. Needless to say, the doctor comes up with as many excuses as possible to make sure the patient gets no more office time until the new year. Some idiots were supporting it until I pointed out what would happen. They didn’t realize the cap included visits to specialists, etc. that counted against the cap.

  • http://xristosdomini.wordpress.com/ xristosdomini

    Okay, so I’ve seen comments on lefty sites claiming that every employee fired by small business owners equal an increase in their taxes. That’s a new one to me… anybody have any insight on that?

    …and yes, I’m shocked that so many people bought the lie that the ACA would actually make healthcare more affordable.

    • R Stewart

      I haven’t seen it, but I have a guess. Since less people working means less taxes paid, then those working and paying taxes will have to pay more taxes to offset the newly unemployed.

      Anyone who thinks high taxes are the answer should look at France, a country where your total tax rate can exceed 100%! The rich French, at least the smart ones, become Swiss citizens and pay a much lower tax rate. This significantly reduces the taxes received by those former rich smart French. At best, the rich French who stay stop doing things that generate taxable income at some point. I would stop making money once my tax rate exceeded 50% at the latest. Why should I have to give the government more than I get to keep?

      In case France is too far away, Cali and NY are good local examples. Their smart rich claim citizenship in either lower taxing U.S. states or in foreign countries that don’t penalize the rich so drastically.

  • mkreider

    Gee, for all the liberals who didn’t have a clue about this. Health Insurance got into bed with Obama. Guess who got screwed? The consumer. Health insurance has been raising higher and higher over the last two years. Now people are finding out the actual cost of the affordable care act. Guess those damn health insurance lobbyists and big pharma really made out well.

  • sb36695

    The goal of Obamacare is single payer. HSA’s and FSA’s must be eliminated, and insurance companies must be bankrupted. Enjoy health care while you can, because it will be scarce in the future.

    • $36544368

      And that scares the hell out of me…I have several chronic illnesses and need medications and medical treatment several times a month in order to even have any quality of life.

      • sb36695

        You are wise.

  • http://twitter.com/WilloughbyAnnie Annie Willoughby

    Clueless is now the majority. They will now have free healthcare, education, housing, birthcontrol. You working taxpayers are non- seqiuiters. How else to care for all those illegals and deadbeats.

  • http://www.facebook.com/wilkesjt James Wilkes

    Same thing happened when I was renewing my FSA for next year. Posted this to FB back in October:

    Just discovered a not so little hidden tax created as a result of Obamacare! Was signing up for next year’s Health Care Spending Account and discovered the maximum I can put in the account is now capped at $2500 by Obamacare as opposed to $5000 I was allowed to put in it last year. At a 20% tax rate that means I get to pay $500 additional federal taxes on the extra $2500 before I spend it on the same health care, leaving me with $500 less health care. I am hoping for a change.

  • http://www.facebook.com/linda.eshelman.5 Linda Eshelman

    The Great Deceiver!

  • stuckinIL4now

    We tried to warn the libturd masses. For those who voted for one of the 219 Dem House Reps who voted to pass this behemoth (34 actually voted against it) in March 2010, or who voted for any of the 60 senators, including Dems, Indies and one idiot Republican, who voted to pass it on Christmas Eve 2009–the Merry Christmas flip-off from Harry Reidiculous–I suggest they track them down and let them as well as their current senators and House reps know how they feel. Let their governors know, too. Otherwise, live with it and suffer the way their failure to vet or do their due diligence is making the rest of us suffer. I’ll say it again–I hear complaints from someone about the ObamaScareTAX or anything else da’ fed gubmint has it’s greasy grimy scraggly Obamuh fingers messing with, my first question to them will be how did they vote and if they voted liberal, they’re gettin’ no sympathy from me.

  • philmon cluebattingcage

    “Obamacare at work for middle class: It cut the FSA (flexible spending accounts) for health care in half. Why?”

    Well, you know, because it amounts to a “cost” as far as they’re concerned. You don’t have to pay them as much of “their” money if they give you a tax break for saving and spending your own money on your own health care like a responsible person.

    I know, it sounds like it doesn’t make any sense … and that’s because I’m trying to explain convoluted leftist thinking, which twists logic into knots.

    In their worldview, all of your money is theirs, and they graciously let you keep a certain amount of it. Any amount they let you keep (which means — that they do not take), amounts to a “cost” to them. Hence, to them, cutting taxes “cost” the government money. This only makes sense if it was the government’s money in the first place.

    If they “give” you a tax “break” by *not* taxing you on the $4,500 difference, they “lose” money. Simple as that. They’re just closing a loophole, you understand.

  • ImYer Huckleberry

    Obama’s Assaulting – not protecting – the Middle Class…This is a good read.
    “And I can make a firm pledge; under my plan no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase.”

    –Barack Obama, Sept. 12, 2008, Dover, New Hampshire

    http://alineofsight.com/policy/obamas-assaulting-not-protecting-the-middle-class

  • Back 4 More

    It’s Bush’s fault…..I mean Romn……I mean……but….but…..FORWARD!!!!

    • Lilybelle Brown

      heh.

  • Back 4 More

    It’s Bush’s fault…..I mean Romn……I mean……but….but…..FORWARD!!!!

  • George Murrey

    For all those that voted for this guy for a second term, I feel sorry for you; but you didn’t believe anything that the foreseers saw. Now, it is too late and you’ll have to suck it up. For those that didn’t vote for that guy, I feel sorry for you as you and I will bear the brunt of this badly written bill. “Pass it and then read what’s in it later (in some many words).” That was said by the ex speaker of the house.

  • George Murrey

    For all those that voted for this guy for a second term, I feel sorry for you; but you didn’t believe anything that the foreseers saw. Now, it is too late and you’ll have to suck it up. For those that didn’t vote for that guy, I feel sorry for you as you and I will bear the brunt of this badly written bill. “Pass it and then read what’s in it later (in some many words).” That was said by the ex speaker of the house.

  • RealitySucks

    MIchelle, don’t forgot, it’s going to affect parents, because you can use your FSA towards the cost of childcare, so parents paying up to $7,000 in childcare could put $7,000 aside pre-tax towards paying for child care, which they now lose.

    • RealityBitesBack

      And if the average middle class taxpayer is paying an effective rate of 20%, that’s a $1400 tax hike.

    • RealityBitesBack

      And if the average middle class taxpayer is paying an effective rate of 20%, that’s a $1400 tax hike.

  • RealitySucks

    MIchelle, don’t forgot, it’s going to affect parents, because you can use your FSA towards the cost of childcare, so parents paying up to $7,000 in childcare could put $7,000 aside pre-tax towards paying for child care, which they now lose.

  • RealityBitesBack

    Alrighty then Mr. “the math doesn’t work”! If the average middle class taxpayer pays an effective tax rate of 20%, this $2500 decrease in the FSA cap was an immediate $500 tax hike.

    Don’t think that you can just get a better insurance plan that covers more. If your plan is too nice as deemed by this administration, you are going to pay a Cadillac tax. If you think your plan would never be considered a “Cadillac plan”, just remember… these are the same people who think that $200K a year makes you a millionaire & billionaire.

    “First they came for the communists, and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.

    Then they came for the socialists, and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

    Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me” ~ Martin Niemöller

  • EastValleyConservative

    Wondering why anyone was shocked—these are two things that people on the right highlighted as issues with ACA. It is designed to do just this—-make it unaffordable so that you are forced to go on ACA, a.k.a. single payer. Of course, my thoughts are that most of those that tweeted know, but want to make it known. Good for them. The dimwitted will still NOT pay attention. Ever.

  • EastValleyConservative

    Wondering why anyone was shocked—these are two things that people on the right highlighted as issues with ACA. It is designed to do just this—-make it unaffordable so that you are forced to go on ACA, a.k.a. single payer. Of course, my thoughts are that most of those that tweeted know, but want to make it known. Good for them. The dimwitted will still NOT pay attention. Ever.

  • http://twitter.com/Daisy761 Daisy76

    Now, all those who voted for him will have a rude awakening. Wonder how long the honeymoon will last. Buyer’s remorse, much?

    • BeeKaaay

      4 years of stupidity, they voted for him again.

  • http://twitter.com/Daisy761 Daisy76

    Now, all those who voted for him will have a rude awakening. Wonder how long the honeymoon will last. Buyer’s remorse, much?

  • William Robert Guerra

    to anyone that voted for obozo = you get what you deserve…no sympathy…

  • IAmAProudAmerican

    Obama lied whenever he talked about keeping our health plans. He lied when he said the cost would go down. Everyone knew that but the Libs who voted for him!

  • lalbx

    An uninformed voter is a dangerous voter. And stupid. People who voted for Obama did not read newspapers, magazines – nothing informative, unless it was tweeted by a celebrity. Then it was the word of god.

    • Jim Denney

      Actually if they read most newspapers and watched network TV “news” they weren’t uninformed. They were deliberately misinformed.

    • Jim Denney

      Actually if they read most newspapers and watched network TV “news” they weren’t uninformed. They were deliberately misinformed.

  • Isahiah62

    The FSA cap hurts ONLY middle class- rich don’t need it- poor can’t afford it or get Medicaid- My friend’s son has autism- most is NOT covered by insurance after a very LOW limit– they needed FSA- for his schooling and special needs- Obama has totally screwed people like this- the main and most important reason she voted Romney this time-

  • proudhispanicconservative

    I could care less for the liberals that are now crying foul, keep voting for the marxists and communists. And the sad thing is you guys have not seen nothing yet, just wait until is fully implemented. Voting has consequences and this is just the beginning.

  • $36544368

    I’ve been posting on any relevant story that my employer-sponsored health care premiums are going up over $4,000 for the year, which actually effects take home pay to the tune of almost $400 a month, net…I’m just sure that I heard Obama say that families would notice a reduction of (approximately) $2,000 per year once Obamacare kicked in (or should I say ‘kicked us’)…I want so badly to scream at him, “LIAR!!!” I’m going to have to do some fast tap dancing to figure this one out, budget-wise! Of course I knew that it wouldn’t go down, but I’m really disappointed in how much it’s going up…and the coverage isn’t as good either. I’m not surprised, but I guess I had really hoped this was all a nightmare and Romney would be the one to shake us awake and tell us it was just a bad dream…/sigh

  • Joe Smith

    you cant fix stupid ….just like pelosi the dumb bitch that she is lets pass this so we can see whats in it wrong

  • Joe Smith

    hey heres a thought lets get rid of planned parethood and istead the women should keep there legs closed till they can afford to have kids

    • http://www.facebook.com/peranut.norman Peranut Pam Norman

      Don’t tell them what to do with their “lady parts”, LOL!!!!!!

  • unklbrad

    Make health insurance so unbearable that the people will want government to take over.
    Looks like the master plan is working.

  • unklbrad

    Make health insurance so unbearable that the people will want government to take over.
    Looks like the master plan is working.

  • BeeKaaay

    Ah yes. This is the tax on parents with special needs kids.

  • BeeKaaay

    Ah yes. This is the tax on parents with special needs kids.

  • Emjay Graykat

    We’ve been talking to our benefits management company for two months as our provider is raising our rates for the sixth time since we went with them, and no other provider seems to be able to come back with a better quote. Those in our company who are married with at least one kid are being advised to seek their own insurance as it’s the only way they may find something cheaper, or get their spouses to get on their employer’s insurance if they are able. I’m married, no kids, and I’m paying $580 per pay period. That’s equal to four of my car payments (I don’t drive fancy cars) or my mortgage per month (I don’t live a fancy life, obviously).

  • Emjay Graykat

    We’ve been talking to our benefits management company for two months as our provider is raising our rates for the sixth time since we went with them, and no other provider seems to be able to come back with a better quote. Those in our company who are married with at least one kid are being advised to seek their own insurance as it’s the only way they may find something cheaper, or get their spouses to get on their employer’s insurance if they are able. I’m married, no kids, and I’m paying $580 per pay period. That’s equal to four of my car payments (I don’t drive fancy cars) or my mortgage per month (I don’t live a fancy life, obviously).

  • Elena0412

    I feel awful for those who are being negatively impacted by Obamacare, but only if they voted for Romney. As for the rest, schadenfreude.

  • Gladys Crump

    I guess it is safe to say none of these people bothered to read the Healthcare bill…wait until they see what happens to their plans in the next few years…LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/ger.h.fleming Ger Hennessy Fleming

    Right about now Americans are starting to wake up and see how much this grand scheme of “free health care” is really going to cost each of them. But, but, but……The second shock is around the corner and in the making. The second shock is reduced care. How grim it will become, they can not imagine in their wildest dreams. I have a girlfriend who are going to be giving birth soon. She was talking about the birthing rooms at our local hospital. Apparently there are the newly remodeled rooms, and some rooms that have outdated decor. She was saying that she couldn’t possibly stare at ugly wall paper while giving birth, that thinking about being put in a lesser room is stressing her out, and that if they steer her into one of those rooms then she will raise hell. She voted for O. I laughed and told her a little story. 18 years ago, my husband and I ended up working in Canada for 2 years, I have duel citizenship. While we were there, I had my first child. We were in one of the Major cities. Birthing room? What’s that! Nope. Instead, you are admitted onto a ward, think soviet Russia. Big green room(the green of a copper roof exposed to the elements), and 12 beds. For the shy, they will draw a privacy curtain. Yup. My doctor told me I was lucky because sometimes the beds are all full and women have to give birth in the hallway. I know she thought I was exaggerating, but unfortunately, I was not. The thing that makes me sad is that this is the direction we are now headed towards. The birthing rooms will soon be a thing of the past. Forward!

  • https://twitter.com/AlessaRosewater Maria

    It was only called the Affordable Care Act to lure in gullible moronic Liberals who believe anything Obama says. Now they will have to suffer with the rest of us. Just desserts, sadly.

  • Guest

    My FSA account got cut to 2.500 and my HCP increased too….I voted for Romney just a thought…
    Not sure all these people voted for Obama…sounds like there blowing steam plus they they have insurance.

  • Vivian Perez

    Forward into the socialist abyss…

  • Sus

    Everyone needs to flood their Senators’ and Congressmens’ inboxes and voice mails with their stories of these tax increases. Let’s put the pressure on them to defund this law, one measure at a time.

  • dcnj

    How day be liken dos Obama Apples, Yo.

  • Kate

    Good Luck blaming Bush for this one, Barry.

  • http://www.righthook38.com righthook38

    It’s not like we didn’t warn them. Why don’t people listen???

    • SpinMeNot

      Ooh ooh ooh Mr. Kotter, pick me, pick me …

      “Because they have been indoctrinated rather than educated.”

  • JimmyNeutron

    Obama is not the reason I want to secede. Obamacare is not the reason either. Nor his hideous treatment of Honduras or Benghazi. No, I could put up with those things. The reason I want to secede is because over half of my fellow citizens think he was deserving of a second term. You can’t fix stupid. Beyond dependency, we have passed the tipping-point of stupid.

    • SpinMeNot

      This is the most concise salient description of reality I have seen to date. Well said, I could not agree more. While I don’t think secession is the correct path, I share your disgust without those that voted BHO a second term.

      As I said before, “You poor bastards in the middle seat are simply boned.”

  • Jazzee

    WHY are these people surprised? IT WAS IN the bill………………..there is more to come but because everyone adores the obama idiot….wait and see what else YOU must do so says the big nanny government

    • therantinggeek

      As Congresswoman Pelosi once famously said, “We Have to Pass the Bill So That You Can Find Out What Is In It”. And of course, people are just *now* starting to realize their health care premiums are going up while FSAs are being dramatically capped at a much lower ceiling.

      Congratulations, Obama supporters. You got exactly what you wanted.

    • therantinggeek

      As Congresswoman Pelosi once famously said, “We Have to Pass the Bill So That You Can Find Out What Is In It”. And of course, people are just *now* starting to realize their health care premiums are going up while FSAs are being dramatically capped at a much lower ceiling.

      Congratulations, Obama supporters. You got exactly what you wanted.