Washington Examiner reporter Conn Carroll has it exactly right. Just look at what’s happening in Missouri:

Patient advocates say the exclusion of one of Missouri’s top hospital systems from policies offered by the region’s biggest insurer under the Affordable Care Act could hinder treatment for some patients and force others to switch doctors.

The network for the Anthem BlueCross BlueShield plans, which will be sold through Missouri’s “Obamacare” marketplace, does not include BJC HealthCare and its 13 hospitals — among them Barnes-Jewish Hospital, the area’s premier academic medical center, and St. Louis Children’s Hospital.

And if you don’t happen to live in Missouri, don’t worry because you too may get to experience the same thing:

The plans are similar to “narrow networks” assembled elsewhere by Anthem.

Stunned? Oh dear. It looks like someone actually believed President Obama when he said “If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor.”

Like Mickey Kaus says, Obamacare means paying more for crappier doctors:

Welcome to the new world.

  • CatHerder ✓fire

    Seriously, did anybody not expect this?

    • journogal

      Lo-in-vos, of course! They actually thought they would get free healthcare and somehow this would make everything in their lives better.

      • grais

        They’ve All turned into Peggy ‘I-won’t-have-to-worry-about-my-mortgage-anymore’ Joseph.
        I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

        • David Roberts

          Let your Senator if they voted for cloture, know exactly how you feel & that they have lost your vote.

    • vetgal1970

      The people who yelled ‘Racist’ when we predicted it.

      • IMPEACH_BOBO

        Now they are finding out just how RACIST this MONSTROSITY of a law is, who do all those same people who say racist when we disagree with BOBO think is going to foot the bill for all those 30 MILLION new FREELOADING FLEEBAGGERS !!! Now these FREELOADERS who will get free health insurance & doctor visits on our dime thru our outragous healthcare premiums under this RAClST BOBOcare, whites will be footing the bill of course !!! Last I checked that is RAClSM towards whites, plain & simple !! Don’t kid yourselves either, we were have already starting paying for these FREELOADERS right after this RAClST law passed in March of 2010 !!!

        My rates went up every year before the RAClST BOBO care 3% to 5%, but after the RAClST law was passed my rates went up 15% every year since this RAClST law was passed, WTF IS UP WITH THAT BOBO !!!!! I am a 42 year old white male is very good health, don’t drink or smoke, never had to make a claim on my insurance in the 20 years I have had it & my rate has almost double since this RAClST law was passed !!!! Who are the majority of people who take care of themselves & get health insurance, whites once again !!!

        So see this RAClST law is putting even more of a burden on whites & now BOBO goes & gives waivers to over 1,200 companies now, Congress members will get a subsidy ( on our dime of course ) unions will also get a subsidy all this while me & you will have to pay exorbitant rates for our healthcare to sibsidize the FREELOADERS !!! This is why the RAClST BOBOcare is going to self implode, WE THE PEOPLE will not accept this RAClST law & then on top of it all be stuck with the bill too !!!!!

        • walterc

          But if it is adversely affecting Whites more than the other races, then it’s not racist. Haven’t you been paying attention? Only Whites are racist, the rest are victims of racism.

          • David Roberts

            That’s only according to the Liberal, anti American Media & brain dead Democrat politicians.

        • WalterWhite22

          You fundamentally misunderstand how the ACA works. The current system is full of freeloaders using the emergency room as their primary care doctor with taxpayers like us footing the bill because many can’t afford it. The new system makes everyone buy their own insurance thus eliminating the freeloaders. Sounds like you are actually going to be a big fan of the ACA!

          • IMPEACH_BOBO

            It is still the samething, the FREELOADING FLEEBAGGERS are just coming out of the shadows & now will be getting free healthcare & now free doctor visits too all the time instead of just for emergency room visits, ON OUR DIME, NO THANKS FLEEBAGGERS !!!! The RACIST law is going to self implode anyway because of all the waivers & subsidies FREELOADERS will get !!!

            It is great to get free healthcare & doctors visits on other peoples money but sooner or later you run out of other peoples money !!! This is if the people footing the bill will even accept that BS to begin with, which in my opinion is very well what is going to happen to BOBOcare, the payers ( whites ) are going to stop paying for the RAClST law !!! This is just another reason the RAClST law is going to self implode, other peoples money has run out !!!!!

          • David Roberts

            Dream on…….

    • Unicorns and Rainbows

      Everybody did. Obama, Pelosi, Reid, you, me. Everybody. Except the libs who STILL scream how great it is. Idiots

  • WhoDat

    Choose one of the other providers. Free market.

    • IBXNJ

      Many of the best doctors will be replaced with complete quacks!!!

    • TocksNedlog

      Yeah, that’s what the president said, didn’t he?
      “If you like your plan you can search around and maybe find a new plan that’s similar to the old one;” along with “If you like your doctor, don’t worry, he or she will surely be associated with one of the new plans . . . uh, you know, one of the ones that will be replacing the old ones that I said you could keep if you liked it.”

      • WhoDat

        Stuck on that still, eh?

        Some people will lose their plans if they don’t meet the requirements. If the insurance companies want to keep your business, they will offer you a better plan.

        • Clayton Grant

          And how does that square with your “free markets” comment?

          • WhoDat

            You get to choose from those companies’ offerings.

          • Clayton Grant

            Free market means unrestricted competition between businesses without government regulation.

          • Unicorns and Rainbows

            That’s not what Obama promised. Why is it different than what Obama said?

          • J. Cox

            Sigh…I would have thought that after your “I am informed” comment a few days ago,you would have learned how insurance works,and how a free market system is supposed to work.Also…you may want to look up the word choice,as not everyone has a choice in what insurance they can afford now,or what plan they can get.I mean…does having a Gold plan and having the cost go up almost 4K you are free to downgrade and be happy?

          • TocksNedlog

            With the slight difference that rather than tailoring their plans to the needs of their customers they will instead only be offering what the federal government dictates they can offer.
            Yep. There’s nothing ‘freer’ than that!

          • Ailsa Nordstrom

            Yep. And in many cases, this will result in higher premiums. Yay Obamacare :-(

          • QueenB ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            I want to keep the plan I have. Just as I was promised.

        • grais

          He didn’t say that, either.

        • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil ✓Mate

          Perhaps you haven’t read the 2500 pages. If a policy doesn’t provide exactly what the ACA mandates, it is not available. That is NOT free market.

        • NRPax

          If the plan covers me and provides for me to the level I want, why should the government have a say in it?

        • spaceycakes

          that filthy LIAR didn’t not add ‘if you don’t meet the requirements’–so shut your pie hole.

          ‘stuck on that still’ indeed.

          • RightFinShark

            I gave you an up vote, Spacey, to try and counteract “Twinkles the Downtroller.” Although I do still agree with your comment.

          • spaceycakes

            well thanks. I wonder why we can’t see the ‘down’ voters?

          • TocksNedlog

            Flame Wars

          • spaceycakes

            understood; but it still kinda reeks of ‘let’s not upset anyone now, ok?’ I hate that attitude.

        • Unicorns and Rainbows

          Obama said: “If you like your plan, you can keep it”
          You said: “Some people will lose their plans if they don’t meet the requirements.”
          Defend those two opposing statements..

        • QueenB ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          So basically, it’s perfectly good with you that Obama lied his ass off. He was full of crap when he said all those things, but really, you know, he’s just the President, so we really should take everything he says with a grain of salt and not hold him to his promises.

        • TocksNedlog

          I will be “stuck on that” FOREVER.
          Legally binding business contracts have been ruled null & void for less egregious misrepresentations of the facts than this.
          Not that you care. Like any good little Marxist, ‘the ends ALWAYS justify the means,’ right?
          As for the new plans being “better,” what does that have to do with anything? The president said “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.” How did that FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM into “It’ll be okay; you’ll like this new plan because it’s better”? Are we not allowed to like our old plans now?
          And what a shocker! Because they are being forced to cover more things, the new plans cost more.
          AFFORDABLE!!!!11!!!

        • Taco Boutit

          Not all of us. I’m losing mine because my husband’s employer can’t afford the 40% tax on the cadillac plans, which was supposed to “level the field” when CEO’s had great plans but the employees got crap. In our company, everybody had the cadillac plan, but we’re being punished anyway.

          How’s that for sensical?

    • Deborah Hallsted

      Free. Free market and Obamascare. Hahahahahaha!

    • NRPax

      Why not let me keep the provider and the plan I had in the first place?

      • WhoDat

        You can, if it meets the minimum requirements of the law.

        • NRPax

          I think you’re a little fuzzy on what “Free Market” really means.

          • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil ✓Mate

            Fuzzy is a very kind use of words.

          • NRPax

            Looks like I ticked off a couple of our resident trolls given the downvotes I’m getting. The truth hurts.

        • grais

          And he didn’t say that, either.

        • OLLPOH ~ OurLifeLiberty

          So you are an Insurance Company?
          So you are a Doctor who has a private practice?
          So you own a Hospital and have clear Deed and Title to that building?

        • Unicorns and Rainbows

          Obama said: .”If you like your plan, you can keep it” Period.
          Now you’re saying only IF it meets requirements.
          Obama didn’t say: “If you like your plan, you can keep it IF it meets requirements.”
          If you can’t admit what Obama said was a lie, then discussing anything with you is pointless because that makes you a liar also.

        • QueenB ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          Well dear, Obama told me if I like my plan, I can keep it. Period. He also said if I like my doctor, I can keep him/her. Period. He also said my premiums would go down. Period. Well, I have to say, I haven’t had to switch doctors yet, so I suppose I should just forget about the other lies Obama spewed, huh?

        • TocksNedlog

          Aww, look at all of the new friends you’re making!
          Who’s Mr. Popular, huh? Is it you?
          I think it is.

        • ObamaFail

          Except it doesn’t look like any of them meet the ACA’s requirements. But go ahead, keep defending it like a mindless zombie. It’ll just expose your stupidity once Obamacare fully hits and you’re sitting around stunned thinking, “but, but, I voted for Obama, he promised it would be awesome, but it’s not. BUSH!!!!!!”

          • WhoDat

            Bush is a great band.

        • IBXNJ

          What F___ING medical school did YOU go to???

    • chicagorefugee

      20,000 pages of regulations !=! free market.

      • WhoDat

        Regulations keep it from falling into total anarchy.

        • Michael Bird

          Regulations like the Affordable Housing Act…? That worked out well. Oh wait, probably apples to oranges, right. Keep fighting the “good” fight with your fellow sheeple.

        • NRPax

          We didn’t have anarchy before. This is solving the wrong problem.

          • grais

            If it ain’t broke…break it.

          • NRPax

            Basically, they don’t think it’s “Fair” that everyone in the U.S. has a health plan that takes care of everything from a stubbed toe to gender reassignment surgery, so they want a system where everyone is stuck with the same level of misery.

            Poor liberals. They keep forgetting that trying to make Heaven on Earth only makes you miserable.

        • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil ✓Mate

          There is a wide range of options between micro management and total anarchy. You were lying about that libertarian stuff the other day, weren’t you.

          • NRPax

            He’s a cafeteria libertarian in all likelihood. He wants a few things to be free, but the government has to have a hand in it so things are fair.

        • OLLPOH ~ OurLifeLiberty

          Again WhoDat, we leave you with a gift that was given to all of us in America; since you toodled along with your tiny trolling yesterday and did not respond to the question you were asked, exclusive paste for you…hope it helps.

          Federalist No. 57 is an essay by James Madison, the fifty-seventh of the Federalist Papers. It was published on February 19, 1788 under the pseudonym Publius, the name under which all the Federalist Papers were published. It is titled, “The Alleged Tendency of the New Plan to Elevate the Few at the Expense of the Many.”
          Madison advocates the election of “men who possess most wisdom to discern, and … pursue, the common good of the society.”
          According to the essay, the representatives will be true to their constituents for the following reasons: 1) the people chose these distinguished men to uphold their engagements, so the representatives have an obligation to stand by their words. 2) The representatives sense a mark of honor and gratitude feel at least the tiniest affection to these constituents. 3) Selfish motives of the human nature bind the representative to his constituents because the delegates hope to seek advancement from his followers rather than the government. 4) Also, frequent elections remind the representatives that they are dependent on the constituents for their loyalty and support. Therefore, the representatives are compelled to remain faithful to their constituents. 5.) The laws created by the legislators will apply to all members of society, including the legislators themselves.

        • Unicorns and Rainbows

          If it is “Regulated” between the seller and consumer it is called a “Regulated Market.” Do libs learn ANYTHING in school?

          • TocksNedlog

            These days they learn “the workers must control the means of production” . . . and that’s about it.

        • QueenB ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          Maybe someone should have told the regulations that’s what they are there for, because it ain’t working.

        • TocksNedlog

          And that’s what the state insurance regulators have been doIng for years, no federal interference necessary.

        • ObamaFail

          But over-regulations just makes it so bad that it can’t do what it’s supposed to do. Just like Obama’s plans to over-regulate the coal industry will kill jobs and eventually the bankrupt the coal industry. Do those regulations “make things better?”

    • AvgJoe

      Free market means I should be able to have BJC Healthcare. Do you have to choose? Are you going to pay more than 4yr ago? Before you defend a lousy law, put yourself in the situation it was meant for.

    • Unicorns and Rainbows

      Obama said, on camera no less, “If you like your plan, you can keep it” and “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Period.” Now we know you cannot. Defend that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXqKp5B0ZLE

    • Amy

      “Free market.”

      There is no such thing as a “free market” in American health insurance. None.

    • carla5731

      2700 pages of legislation and 20,000-plus pages of regulation does not a free market make. The government has tied the hands of all of the insurance companies.

    • Unicorns and Rainbows

      Please explain how a government regulated exchange with regulations requiring you to choose specific plans according to government rules translates into “free market.” You really don’t know the difference do you? This is a Regulated market. A free market is a market structure which is not controlled by a designated authority. A Controlled market or Regulated market is one in which government policy intervenes. If you’re going to call it, call it what it is. A Regulated market.

    • Ailsa Nordstrom

      We had the ability to choose other providers before Obamacare. Obamacare has reduced the diversity of those choices. Say you want catastrophic care insurance and want to just pay out of pocket for routine appointments – that isn’t ACA compliant. So explain to me how we have a free market in health insurance.

    • Unicorns and Rainbows

      Wrong. Regulated market.

    • mike_in_kosovo

      Nope. I want to keep my plan and my doc, just like Zero said.

  • TDS

    Gee, who would have thought there would be yet another unintended consequence of a poorly-thought-out Liberal policy?

    • judy Potter

      I agree with you in spirit, but I don’t believe this was poorly thought out or unintended. Obamacare is working as planned, and too many people see the liberals as bumbling and ignorant when they are calculating and evil.

    • TocksNedlog

      Who said they were unintended?

  • judy Potter

    Obamacare was designed to destroy the existing health care system in the US and to herd sheople into the far inferior government plan in which we can all be managed like the animals that the elitist ruling class think we are. Sadly, enough sheople have been indoctrinated that they are sitting back waiting for their free health care while we are losing our Republic.

  • comfypaws

    Insurers setting up exchanges excluded major medical centers in CA … 5 UC teaching hospitals and Cedars-Sinai Medical Center. http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/health-care/item/16603-obamacare-may-bring-lower-premiums-but-with-fewer-choices

  • TocksNedlog

    Heckuva job, Barcky!

  • Deborah Hallsted

    Read it and weep, liberals.

  • vcferlita

    “Health advocates stunned” Bless their hearts.

    • Amy

      Startled by the sunrise.

  • vetgal1970

    So the insurance companies under Obamacare limit service in exactly the same way as the insurance they were complaining about, except now we HAVE to buy it.

    • NRPax

      Actually, it’s worse than that. If the insurance companies denied you before, you can appeal. Now that the government is in charge, that’s not as much of an option.

      • vetgal1970

        I know, I have some experience navigating the VA Healthcare system.
        I find it all kinds of amusing to see the liberals say “But just buy a different plan” since that was a solution that was available before this privacy busting tax bill was passed. Now there are even fewer plans to choose from and a lot of people now have less budget to work with.

        • NRPax

          Ouch. My only experience with the VA’s health care was getting a letter that told me that my information was on a laptop that had been stolen.

          Now this is what confuses me; There is a LOT of documentation on the problems that the VA is having. Lost paperwork, botched procedures, long waits for basic care, etc. Veterans as a whole represent about 1% of the population at the most. But these chuckleheads think that somehow the ACA is going to run correctly.

          • vetgal1970

            I know the letter you are referring to, I have the same one in my files.

            Many of these folks have no idea how the VA functions so they don’t yet know that if the first doctor you see proclaims you to be well, it could take awhile to get to see anyone that might give you second opinion. Hm, now that I think about it, considering some of the attitudes towards the Active military and Veterans, maybe its sort of Karma for some of these people.

            But it’s not worth the pain this is going to cause to so many people who have worked so hard all their lives.

      • QueenB ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        “Not as much of an option”? No, there IS NO appeal. Ever. Decision is final.

        • NRPax

          About the only hope you would have would be a combination of social media and a good reporter willing to push things for you. And even that is no guarantee.

  • OLLPOH ~ OurLifeLiberty

    Now, now, there, there, just settle down folks, take a deep breath and sigh a big sigh…
    The illustrious O’Liar ObamaCareChief does it again, is to talk about what the Affordable Care Act means for consumers in speech today.

    • TocksNedlog

      I’d rather listen to Ted Cruz for 20 hours than hear Obama for 2 minutes.

      • Unicorns and Rainbows

        If you know the pronouns “I” “me” and “my” you pretty much know the content of all Obama’s speeches.

  • philips66

    But Ted Cruz is the crazy one, right? LOL

    Cruz 2016!

  • OLLPOH ~ OurLifeLiberty

    To destroy a free market business is called?
    …………………..
    The complete elimination of private ownership and individual freedom that confines everyone to a drab, mindless existence with no hope of ever gaining anything more than a daily ration and staying alive. – Communism.

  • NOYB

    Higher prices, worse coverage, kids with unemployed parents because of Obamacare. But it’s “okay” because “something had to be done” to combat high prices, bad coverage, and kids with unemployed parents. To the Left, this all makes complete sense.

    • Amy

      There are also people to whom the argument “Syrians were killing Syrians, so now we must act to kill Syrians to stop Syrians from killing any more Syrians” makes sense. Apparently.

      So this is what we’re dealing with.

    • Unicorns and Rainbows

      And don’t forget, we also “had to do something” about those emergency room visitors who didn’t pay their bills and expected the tax payer to foot the bill. So now they get tax-payer provided subsidies instead. In other words nothing has changed.

  • Tom of the Missouri

    The President and CEO of BJC in Missouri was a huge supporter of Obamacare as were most of the academics and doctors of its affiliated Washington University Medical School. Whether this is what the docs and CEO wanted or not is uncertain to me. I say that because as the owner of the largest hospital in the City of St Louis they were obviously burdened with many thousands of poor uninsured and low reimbursement medicaid patients. Maybe they are happy to be rid of them under Obamacare. Or not.

    If they are upset, I am delighted they got what they wished for.

    • spaceycakes

      simple: follow the money

  • Granny Gertrude’s Goiter Glue

    I strongly suspect Obamacare will send people only to affirmative action doctors who aren’t good enough doctors to maintain their own practice. It solves 2 problems: people can’t afford a real doctor so they get a fake doctor who was handed real credentials, and it props up these fake doctors by funneling real patient victims to them. Don’t you love free stuff all around? LOL! It’s ingenious in a really slimy way.

    • MNWoman

      Your comment was good, but I gave the upvote because I love your username.

      • Granny Gertrude’s Goiter Glue

        Wanna know something funny? I love your user name as well, and I am also a Minnesota woman! :-) YOU GO GIRL!!!

        • MNWoman

          Awesome!

          I have been meeting all kinds of interesting Minnesota conservatives on Twitchy and Breitbart.

          Gives me hope that we can vote out Franken next year.

          Now I must go…I need to go to the store to get things for supper…I am making hotdish 😉

          • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil ✓Mate

            If you all want to get rid of Franken, you’d better start hiding boxes of ballots that “we just discovered.” Isn’t that how he won? Oh, and every ballot in those boxes had his name on them.

          • MNWoman

            You know, the problem was that it was too close to call and a recount was needed.

            I was thinking of a solution to avoid such a thing happening again. What we need is another Ted Cruz, but we have far too many liberals in MN.

            So I was thinking conservative Minnesotans need to try to sell the benefits of moving north to MN for a year or so. I hate to stereotype Texas conservatives, but to be clear I mean this as a compliment…they are no-nonsense and fearless about politics and will glady challenge the liberal mindset of anyone they meet. We need that here.

            So if any conservative Texans are interested in bitter cold winters (which include good ice fishing and the need to start your car at least 5 minutes before you drive) and hot summers (which compared to TX summers are probably very mild) by all means, welcome. You will also come to love hotdish 😉

          • Granny Gertrude’s Goiter Glue

            Most excellent! :-) We MN Conservatives hardily welcome all Texas Conservatives! We know you love challenges, so please join with us to meet this challenge head-on! We sure can use your help. And I hear MNWoman makes a great hotdish!

        • MNWoman

          I wrote a comment below in response to Tugboat Phil that you might enjoy :)

      • 2BRKnot2B

        What makes gun toting illegal? Quoting Shuttlesworth v Birmingham:

        “It is settled by a long line of recent decisions of this
        Court that an ordinance which, like this one, makes the peaceful
        enjoyment of freedoms which the Constitution guarantees contingent
        upon the uncontrolled will of an official — as by requiring a permit
        or license which may be granted or withheld in the discretion of such
        official — is an unconstitutional censorship or prior restraint upon
        the enjoyment of those freedoms.”

        Staub v. Baxley, 355 U. S. 313, 355 U. S. 322. And our decisions
        have made clear that a person faced with such an unconstitutional
        licensing law may ignore it and engage with impunity in the exercise
        of the right of free expression for which the law purports to require
        a license.

        Therefore, the only persons who are “legally (meaning constitutionally) carrying are those without a permit. Those are the true patriots, and we who go along with the lunacy of the permit system, NRA included, are merely alowing that we don;t really have the right unless the state grants it. We need to overturn the permit system, proving it unconstitutional. We can do it by using Shuttlesworth, and other prior rulings, but NRA knows about it, and is still pushing permit systems in states that do not have them. How do I know NRA knows about this? Because I personally handed Wayne LaPierre, and Alan Gottlieb (SAF) the ruling.

  • Unicorns and Rainbows

    Reading the posts here, we are now seeing just how little libs understand the difference between a “Free” market and a “Regulated” market. And what that ultimately means for them and everybody else.

    • TocksNedlog

      It isn’t so much that they don’t understand as it is that they just don’t care.

    • MNWoman

      They will ask “well, which one will let me continue to get free stuff?”

      • Unicorns and Rainbows

        Ultimately that is ALL they care about. One bright point though, nearly everybody will have to pay something. Either as a premium, co-pay, or tax penalty.You can bet the Obamaphone crowd ain’t gonna like that.

        • MNWoman

          If I didn’t have to suffer through this disaster, I would find it funny.

          The Obamaphone crowd likely doesn’t even have a clue Obamacare is the law. Let’s face it, they didn’t vote for Obama because of his foreign policy (I doubt many of them could find Syria on a map, or even know what Syria is) or his leadership skills.

          Our republic is failing because we are letting morons dominate the elections.

          • Unicorns and Rainbows

            Yep. The Yep is to your above comment about the republic.

          • Unicorns and Rainbows

            I think they know it’s the law, but I think THEY think it means walk into a doctor’s office. Mention Obamacare. Walk out without paying.

          • MNWoman

            Good point.

    • Granny Gertrude’s Goiter Glue

      Wise people learn from fools, but fools learn from no one.

      We continue to wonder how Liberals still don’t “get it”? First, understand exactly the type of people they are (in general), then you will understand.

      • Unicorns and Rainbows

        Like I told MNWoman below, I think THEY think it means walk into a doctor’s office. Mention Obamacare (as in “just bill it to Obamacare”). Walk out without paying.
        I honestly think they’re that simple minded.

    • ObamaFail

      All libs need to know is Obama says Obamacare is good, he’s a black man, so they have to love it because they voted for him, and they’re afraid of being considered a racist if they don’t love it.

  • Unicorns and Rainbows

    I knew this was coming two months ago. Google this: “HHS Admits: You Might Not Be Able to Keep Your Doctor Under Obamacare”
    And libs are STILL in denial about it. The posts here prove it.

    • MNWoman

      It is astonishing, isn’t it? How much more proof do they need to realize this law is a disaster?

      I was waiting for the dems to rally and go out on the senate floor to debate Cruz and try to refute what he was saying, but I knew they wouldn’t . What could they actually say? Durbin and Kaine both tried and failed.

      The day after, the media only has the attack Cruz card to play. They attack him because they cannot deny or refute what Cruz had said.

      Now the dems are going on and on, using their old talking points about how we must find a way to provide insurance for the 30 million Americans who are not covered.

      -sigh- I thank God for Ted Cruz and Mike Lee’s willingness to stand up and fight.

      • Unicorns and Rainbows

        I’ve noticed how a lib will just about die before saying “I was wrong.” I can completely, logically box them in argumentatively with no way to refute what I said and will still be met with a “Yes, BUT…” and then a straw man with usually an accusation of racism and a mention of Bush thrown in. It’s insanity.

        • MNWoman

          I was arguing the ACA with a Obamacare-loving liberal (who like myself, also has a pre-existing condition). She also struggles to find affordable health coverage, but I do want to point out her condition is nowhere near as complex or expensive as mine is.

          Anyway I pointed out all of its flaws and why I want Obamacare to be completely repealed. Even after I pointed out all of the reasons it is a terrible law, she threw out the “fine, I guess I will jsut have to die then”.

          I pointed out to her that those of us who do not support Obamacare absolutely want people to be able to find affordable coverage. It just happens to be that Obamacare is not the answer to the problem

          She was still determined to believe the ACA is amazing. I told ehr I guess we will have to wait and see if it is the best solution to the problem, to which she replied “it is”.

          —sigh—

          • Unicorns and Rainbows

            People like that, who support this lying empty suit, are why we have had five years of staggering unemployment, staggering debt, an failing economy, rising inflation, and are now considered a joke to Iran and Russia.
            “Fine, I guess I will just have to die then”. LOL! It’s ALWAYS emotion and never facts.
            Did she bring up the “Car insurance” straw man? She will eventually.

          • Charles Hammond Jr

            People like this are the reason why I believe the term ‘Low Information Voter’ is quite frankly incorrect.

            The person you didn’t talk to wasn’t a low information voter… at least not AFTER you spoke to her. You did your duty–you informed her–and she still didn’t listen!

            These so called ‘low information voters’ are better referred to as ‘Ostritch voters’: they have their pre-determined views and will stick to them to the point of throwing out relevant factual data that points to the contrary!

            This will only end in tears, fire, or shooting… probably a mix of two or three of those…

  • MNWoman

    My current health care insurance, which the state of MN legislature set up as a non-profit insurance for people with pre-exisitng conditions, sent me a notice that it will cease operations after 2014 due to Obamacare.

    I want to point out that my insurance is NOT subsidized or run by the state. In fact, the state has very little to do with the overall running of the insurance. In the 70s the state of MN realized people with pre-existing coinditions have difficulty finding insurance. Rather than make them depend on the state, they organized a system of insurance in which profit was not the goal (hence, the non-profit organization). I pay a high premium and have a deductible and the 80/20 coverage with a maximum out of pocket expenses, just like most other insurance policies.

    My point is I am happy with my insurance. Some may say it is expensive. Perhaps it is, but I also get high quality health care coverage. It has a vast network and nearly everything is covered. My pre-existing condition is very rare and something that I was born with. I receive all of my cares for this condition at the Mayo Clinic. It is one of the few clinics in the U.S. who are equipped well enough to manage my condition and overall care.

    I am terrified that something like what is happening in Missouri will happen to me. Yes, my health insurance is quite expensive and I have to pay for it instead of buying other luxuries. Some people say it isn’t fair that I should have to pay so much for it. Guess what, folks – life is not always fair or easy. We play the cards we are dealt.

    If the federal government wants to find a way to make my insurance coverage cheaper while maintaining hte quality of care, fine, but do not overhaul the entire system. Other people should nto have to pay to make that happen.

  • Angie

    To paraphrase Dick Durbin on the senate floor to Ted Cruz — hey at least us peons will be getting insurance; we should be grateful for our betters letting us fly “coach” while they enjoy First Class.

    • Ruth

      Too true, he just highlighted what a great deal Congress gets for healthcare.

  • MNWoman

    Obamacare in its 2000+ page form was a disaster on its own.
    The thousands of pages of regulations and exemptions (that I doubt anyone actually knows is in them) make it into an unworkable trainwreck. We know it is a trainwreck, but I doubt even with our most imaginative predictions, we cannot possibly fathom how bad it will be.

  • 2BRKnot2B

    But, but, we were told we could keep our MD, and our Health Insurance carrier. My MD quit, and went to Kenya to help people in the bush. So, we can’t keep our MD. We can’t keep our Health Insurance, either, because many insurers will stop coverage, or switch the types of coverage. HOW MANY LIES ARE WE GONNA STAND FOR?

  • ObamaFail

    Avik Roy is a moron. Somehow Obamacare narrowing our choice of doctors is a good thing. They didn’t think narrowing the window for a woman to “choose’ when to kill her baby was a good thing, so why are they now finding the positives in people having fewer choices for good doctors?

  • jeanie6

    There are ony 10 of 22 hospitals that will be covered by the exchange here in NH. This because the exchange has one provider, Anthem. When/possbly the ten close, there are going to be a lot of very annoyed voters. The remaining12 will be clogged to the rafters also producng a lot of very annoyed voters. The whole mess is a huge no win for everybody.

  • medic2003

    AS a paramedic in MO, all I can say is, I told ya so. Been dealing with government healthcare in the form of medicaid and medicare for years. What the government touches, the government turns to crap. Dont even get me started on the VA. I agree with Kinder on this one. Missourians should actively resist the exchanges in protest. None of this is good for MO or the Country.

  • https://www.youtube.com/user/JayJay3Fifty7 JJ357

    Time to install new antivirus software and reboot the Matrix, this a nightmare.

  • David Roberts

    I have already emailed my displeasure to NC Sen Richard Burr & told him that he has lost my vote. Also asked him what the Hell was he thinking.

  • rztuck

    Sen. Blunt voted with Reid today….Thanks for nothing Roy…you will never get my vote, and I hope the good people of MO run your ass out as soon as we can…