Ted Cruz made some waves after talking about “New York values” at the GOP debate, and Donald Trump was immediately critical of Cruz’s comments.

Cruz later apologized. Well, sort of:

Cruz has also been defending himself from Trump’s criticism:

Today, Trump really upped the ante on his criticism of Cruz’s “New York values” remark:

Wow.

Trump really heard about it:

But not everybody was critical of Trump’s tweet:

  • HeadlineHawk

    Hey, nice to see we have another Democrat willing to stand on the graves of the fallen for personal political gain.

    • Maxx

      There has been a lot of talk since debate night that Trump put Ted to rest with the former’s 9-11 analogy but I think what occurred might be one of the savviest political maneuverings I’ve seen in decades. If my hunch is correct, Cruz knew the gloves were coming off Thursday night and the bromance between the two was over. With that in mind, I think it was Ted’s plan (accurately, mind you) to paint Trump as this self-absorbed opportunist who believes he’s riding in on a white horse to “save” the Republican party when in fact, the single-payer lovin’, eminent-domain supporting fella is nothing more than a northeastern liberal with a history of siding with Democrats on nearly every issue that matters to grassroots conservatives. Need further proof? How’s a 45% tax on our own people sound? Does it sound conservative?

      http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2016/01/08/donald-trumps-entirely-ridiculous-idea-of-a-45-tax-on-chinese-imports/#2715e4857a0b3661df6577f6

      To get that firestorm started, Cruz needed an accelerant…and what better way to create it than to bait Donald with an attack on the values of Trump’s neighbors, KNOWING his handlers would run to the 9-11 analogy to “shame” Cruz whilst unwillingly playing directly into his hands.

      To use a terrorist attack in some half-baked attempt to detour Cruz’s point about Big Apple values when compared to the values of most Iowa voters was straight from the liberal playbook of how to distract from a central point that is unfavorable to you. Don’t like the narrative? Shuck and jive to an “emotional” observation. Remember, facts are inconvenient truths to liberals and with Pavlovian predictability, when confronted with them, they will always steer the debate to emotional distractions. For example, the declaration that Republicans wanted old people to die because we didn’t like Obamacare. Another example…claiming conservatives want to “take away your mammograms” each time a Republican attempts to defund Planned Parenthood.

      Liberal New Yorkers love Planned Parenthood, they love excessive taxation, they love their nanny-state mayors, love their gun control and yet when confronted with these realities, the so-called conservative ran to 9-11…..which is what I would fully expect his wedding guest, Hillary Clinton, to have done if given the same scenario.

      I believe, and this is one of the few times I disagree with Charles Krauthammer, that Cruz is going to win this “values” dust up in the long run because what he has successfully done, is begin the conversation that has so long been needed….to remind a nation that Donald Trump is nothing more than a political opportunist who one President ago, proclaimed “It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans” and to prove Cruz’s point, when confronted with value differences between NYC and middle America, instead of debating those facts, Trump responded the way we have all come to expect the typical obfuscating liberal to do…he quickly changed the topic and revealed his true political DNA.

      Perhaps this explains that ear to ear grin Cruz had when Trump finished his 9-11 distraction. The tactician’s well-crafted battle plan was successfully underway…

      …to systematically, over the next few weeks, unmask the angry elephant, revealing the lifelong donkey.

      • Diego Rodriguez

        Had the exact same thought and discussion with my dad on Friday. He is has changed the conversation to what does Trump really stand for.

        Remember Cruz openly says he wants to determine the framework for every debate not his opponent. Art of war, battles are won before they are fought by picking the right terrain.

        Also, Cruz didn’t walk into that New York comment in the debate. He full well knew what’s Trump’s response would be since it was already out there prior to their debate. He smartly didn’t respond but had all the ammo stored for the post discussion firestorm that would follow.

        Cruz might just be one of these types of guys that is just at a different level than his opponents.

      • DeplorableMessMan ✔ JesseMessy

        There was never any bromance between DT and TC. This was “painted Inaccurately by the legends of talk-radio & conserve-media, those old icons like Rush & Hannity & Beck who (whatever’s gotten into them) have fallen for DT’s fakery and they can’t get up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1WMQYd6IwE

    • Glorious_Cause

      Trump is a disgrace. He lost me this week with his left-flank attacks on Cruz

  • Richard J Sunkle

    “To be blunt, they were not ‘great’ buildings… They only became great upon their demise last Tuesday.” -Donald Trump September 2001

    • Penny✓ItsSoFluffy! #GoBolts!

      WTH??

    • tops116 ✓Quipper

      Remember when Trump said his past was fair game? Yeah, the moment Team Cruz starts pulling out quotes like that is the moment Trump starts saying, “Dude, that was a long time ago.”

    • El Derecho

      Whoa! Where did you find that?

    • AMD_Afficionado

      That just shows how consistent “The Teflon Don” has been over the years as that’s a strikingly similar statement to the “infamous” one that he made about Senator Songbird McCain last year.

      I believe I can see Trump’s point though, as can anyone: the twin towers were just generic, prosaic boxy skyscrapers until “Jeb’s Jihadis” turned them into funeral pyres for the living 🙁

      • Tyrconnell

        The Twin Towers were beautiful in their symmetry. And should stick to Kos with that thruther BS.

        • AMD_Afficionado

          The Twin Towers were not beautiful by any stretch of the imagination. They were just two tall, boring towers. Run of the mill skyscrapers, utterly unremarkable.

          They were no Statue of Liberty or Chrysler Building, that’s for sure.

          So, yes, they are the “John McCain” of buildings. I can agree with Trump on that easily, as he’s right about it. He wasn’t particularly tactful about it, but he did preface his statement accordingly.

          • Tyrconnell

            Oh, so now you are dictating what I find beautiful, sorry Chuckie, that is beyond your power. Indeed it may be difficult for you to comprehend, but it is beyond your “Sharia supersedes the Constitution” god Donald’s power as well. Hell, if they would have had a big gold TRUMP on them, no doubt your god “I’ll tell the rubes I’m worth 10 billion, and tell the government for tax purposes that I’m only worth 3.5 billion” Donald would have called them the most beautiful buildings ever. Both those phrases in quotes in my preceding sentences are a lot more accurate than your reference to Al Qaeda as “Jeb’s Jihadis.”

  • Zhytamyr

    The last time that I worked in New York, a fellow that I was working with let me know that by being friendly and pleasant I just made myself look like a hick. New Yorkers can keep NY, I couldn’t live like they do.

    • Richard J Sunkle

      As I told my new neighbor who recently moved here to Michigan from Texas. We may be a little stand offish at first but we’re friendly small town folks with solid flyover country values and you’ll become one of us.

  • overboosted ✓ᴰᴱᴾᴸᴼᴿᴬᴮᴸᴱ

    I’m really kind of disappointed that Trump tweeted out that picture. He had a great debate moment when he brought up 9/11, but this is one step too far.

    • bil_g

      Like when a friend makes a particularly poignant comment to you, you show appreciation, and then they run it into the ground by repeating it…every…time…you…see…them.

      Granted, Trumps comments were pandering. At the debate and even more so now.

    • Suzyqpie

      I view this step to far as Trump transitioning to – OK I’m just another of many sleazy politicians.

    • Penny✓ItsSoFluffy! #GoBolts!

      Frankly, I’m a bit surprised he didn’t use a picture of one of the victims jumping from the WTC.

      • tops116 ✓Quipper

        I can’t shake the feeling an aide had to beg him not to do that.

        • Penny✓ItsSoFluffy! #GoBolts!

          (nods in agreement)

  • DeplorableMessMan ✔ JesseMessy

    Fabulous “apology” by Ted Cruz…And if this “new low in pandering by DT” doesn’t finally convince his minions that he’s a Fraud and a DemoPlant, then nothing will.
    …Don’t get me wrong since I ain’t knocking New York: It’s my birth-city and I’m proud of that fact. I’d long been irked by the narrative that “New York was attacked on 9/11”, although I don’t blame NewYorkers for their gut-feeling that the Big Apple is an enticing target to terrorists (and not just Jihadi-terrorists, since these 2 NYPD-officers Rafael Ramos & Wenjian Lu were the first ones killed because of #HandsUpDontShoot). Yet what Trump did is the basest Democrat-style pandering for NewYork-votes, for which I blame only DT & his real (Dem) party.
    …I wonder: will the giants of talk-radio keep speaking of #TrumpANDCruz-vs.-the-“establishment” after seeing Trump use 9/11 so’s to smear the lifelong reformer (my guy Cruz) whom Hannity et al keep absurdly pushing to be DT’s VP-choice? Or will the self-appointed arbiters of conservative remain too stupid to get it that Trump is NO friend of (and is the one damaging) Cruz’s shot at the Presidency?

  • Stacey Farr

    People with good sense know that’s not what Cruz meant by NY Values; which explains why Trump supporters think that is what he meant.

    • texastommy

      I think Trump is revealing the values that Cruz was talking about. To bad, I thought better of Trump.

      • CombatDiver

        Thinking better of Trump is where you messed up.

      • Tyrconnell

        Trump showed his character when he tried to get Atlantic City to get him the Widow Coking’s home for a fraction of it’s value.

    • Orwellian_Dilemma

      Maybe Trump should have used this picture instead.

    • Ragnar__Danneskjold

      The implication that Cruz was talking about all New Yorkers is as pathetic as the left wing media’s was when they claimed Trump was talking about all immigrants.

      “And listen, there are many, many wonderful, wonderful working men and women in the State of New York. But everyone understands that the values in New York City are socially liberal or pro-abortion or pro-gay marriage–focus around money and the media.”

      I’m surprised they are using the liberal’s playbook. Maybe they already forgot about the way the feigned indignation bit was used against Trump a few months ago.

  • drw

    Petulant child…

    • CombatDiver

      That’s now a coded racial term now

      • drw

        I’ve heard that. The thing is though, there’s no measure for how little I care…

  • Mark1971

    To make this much out of an insult toward your hometown seems to be most intense with east coasters. As a Southern California conservative I would know exactly what a criticism of “California values” was about and mostly nod in agreement.

    • bil_g

      New York City is the center of the universe. To New Yorkers – like Trump.

    • ForTheLesser

      100% agree.
      Also, as a SoCal conservative myself, I recognize the importance of identifying as a Southern Californian, and not lumping together Northern California lol.

    • CandanceCork

      Then you have all the trash that is spewed about southerners. We are stupid, racist, and married to a sibling. Doesn’t bother me because I know that at least I don’t have to live in New York.

      • http://truthbeforedishonor.wordpress.com John Hitchcock

        I drive a truck. Sometimes I have to go to that part of the country. You couldn’t pay me enough to actually live there.

        Edit: Everything east of the Hudson is “that part of the country”.

        • lilwren

          …like the saying goes: “It’s a nice place to visit, but I wouldn’t want to live there.” (I have lived on Long Island; Boston, too)…

        • Lisa™

          Oh thank God I’m on the west part! (And dreaming of moving south anyway)

      • journogal

        I’m right there with you.

      • lilwren

        …them Southerners, then there’s the Irish, & heavens, redheads, too. I have a NY trifecta there… 😉

    • lilwren

      …self deprecation is humility with humor. Those with thin skins don’t have much of a sense of humor. prima facie: Prez Oboyoboy & Hill the Pill…

    • Happy Dragon

      Born and raised in Seattle, love it dearly, but if someone said “Seattle values,” I’d probably agree that few Seattle values are any good.

    • aztectrumpet

      T̶o̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶f̶a̶i̶r̶ ̶m̶a̶y̶b̶e̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶s̶e̶r̶v̶a̶t̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶N̶e̶w̶ ̶Y̶o̶r̶k̶e̶r̶s̶ ̶w̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶o̶.̶ ̶*̶T̶r̶u̶m̶p̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶s̶e̶r̶v̶a̶t̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶’̶t̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶e̶x̶a̶m̶p̶l̶e̶.̶

      nevermind apparently “conservative” new yorkers are just as butthurt.

  • HiltonHead_Dude

    Exactly how many actual real republicans and conservatives will Trump trash before his followers realize he’s doing more harm to the GOP then Jeb Bush ever could?

    • tops116 ✓Quipper

      At this point, Trump supporters would bash Reagan if the Gipper had ever said a single negative thing about Trump. Hell, those clowns in the Breitbart comment section are never pleased when someone points out what Andrew said about Trump.

  • journogal

    Those people who claim it’s demeaning are the same ones who sneer at “fly-over country.” Grow up, and don’t act shocked.

  • Sanchez

    It’s a New York, State of Mind.

    List of New York State and local politicians convicted of crimes

    New York

    Majority Leader of the New York State Senate Dean Skelos (R) convicted of federal corruption charges. (2015)
    Speaker of the New York State Assembly Sheldon Silver (D) convicted of federal corruption. (2015)
    Depuy Majority Leader of the New York Senate Tom Libous (R) was convicted of lying to FBI. (2015)
    Minority Leader of the New York State Senate John L. Sampson (D) was convicted of obstructing justice and making false statement. (2015)
    Majority Leader of the New York State Senate Malcolm Smith
    (D) was found guilty in federal court of conspiracy, wire fraud,
    bribery and extortion for trying to bribe a Republican Party official to
    let him onto the Republican ballot in the 2013 New York City mayoral
    race. (2014) [73]
    State Assemblywoman Gabriela Rosa (D) sentenced to a year in jail for entering into a sham marriage in order to gain U.S. citizenship. (2014)[74]
    State Assemblyman William Boyland, Jr. (D) convicted of bribery (2014)[75]
    State Assemblyman Eric Stevenson (D) found guilty of bribery, conspiracy and other related charges. (2014)[76]
    State Assemblyman Nelson Castro (D) convicted of perjury (2013)[77]
    State Senator Shirley Huntley (D) convicted of mail fraud.[78] She was sentenced to one year and a day in prison. (2013)[79][80]
    Majority Leader of the New York State Senate Pedro Espada Jr.
    (D) On May 14, 2012 a federal jury found Espada guilty of embezzling
    money from federally funded healthcare clinics, after 11 days of
    deliberation. (2012)[81]
    State Senator Vincent Leibell (R) found guilty of felony bribery, tax evasion, and obstruction of justice charges related to $43,000 in cash kickbacks he took from 2003 to 2006. (2012)[82][83]
    State Senator Nicholas Spano
    (R), convicted of federal income tax evasion. Spano pleaded guilty to
    the single felony. He was sentenced to 12 to 18 months in federal
    prison. (2012)[84]
    New York State Comptroller Alan Hevesi
    (D), was convicted on charges surrounding a “pay to play” scheme
    regarding the New York State Pension Fund, and was sentenced to 1–4
    years. (2011) [85]
    State Senator Carl Kruger (D) resigned his seat and pled guilty to charges of corruption and bribery. (2011)[86]
    State Senator Efrain Gonzalez Jr.
    (D) was convicted of fraud and embezzling $400,000 from the West Bronx
    Neighborhood Association Inc. and was sentenced to seven years in
    federal prison (2010) [87]

    State Health Commissioner Antonia Novello
    (R) pled guilty to costing the taxpayers $48,000 by making her staff
    carry out personal chores for her such as taking her shopping and
    picking up her dry cleaning. Her plea deal calls for 250 hours of
    community service at an Albany health clinic, $22,500 in restitution and
    a $5,000 fine. (2009)[88][89]

    Local

    Mayor of Mount Vernon Ernie Davis (D) was convicted on federal misdemeanor tax evasion. (2014)[90]
    New York City Councillor Dan Halloran (R) convicted of taking bribes and orchestrating payoffs. (2014)
    New York City Councillor Larry Seabrook (D) On February 9, 2010, a federal grand jury indicted Seabrook on 13 counts of money laundering, extortion, and fraud.[91] Seabrook was convicted on 9 charges (2012).[92]
    President of the New York City council Andrew Stein (D) was convicted of tax evasion regarding a Ponzi scheme (2010).[93]

    • CandanceCork

      And then there is Carlos Danger (I know he wasn’t a state or local politician just couldn’t help myself!)
      Impressive list.

  • http://truthbeforedishonor.wordpress.com John Hitchcock

    Donald Trump, the disgusting pro-choice, single-payer, gun-control, eminent domain so rich private individuals can have it instead, DEMOCRAT, deliberately misrepresents what Cruz was saying (that’s called lying) and then stands on graves to make political points. And idiot Trumpsters eat that fecal matter up.

  • EX-GOPJohnt✓Fᵉᵈᵉʳᵃˡ ᶦˢᵗ

    America has spent the last eight years under the reign of an unhinged, liberal narcissist in Obama. Trump supported his policies and is just as nasty. Cruz fought them and the Republican party that wouldn’t. #dumpthetrump

    Ted Cruz has earned my vote and the votes of freedom loving New Yorkers, Californians, and fiscal/social conservatives getting the jackboot of liberal politicians.

    Conservatives are uniting behind steady Teddy Reagan Cruz!

  • tops116 ✓Quipper

    Exploiting 9/11 to score political points? What a scumbag. Sure sounds like those New York values all right. (Boy, I’m finding so many examples of New York values today.) Perhaps Trump got this idea from Hillary, who once lied her ass off about Chelsea’s whereabouts that day. If nothing else, it’s nice to know that Cruz has quite clearly rattled Trump’s cage. Just imagine what the next few weeks are gonna be like when Cruz unloads on him in ads and speaking appearances.

    And, incidentally, this whole kerfuffle has demonstrated one thing beyond a shadow of a doubt: New Yorkers really do think they’re better than the rest of us. Sure, we’ve all thought that, but it’s really been put into practice since the debate.

    Now, make no bones about it: New York was dealt a devastating tragedy on 9/11, and the police, fire fighters, first responders, various volunteers, and ol’ Giuliani himself rose to the occasion. It was indeed inspiring. However, aside from Trump’s crass exploitation and limp-wristed deflection, I also get the feeling that dimwit (plus the people criticizing Cruz on this point) are actually suggesting that people in other cities wouldn’t have been able to do the same. Really? Hey, man, I am well-aware that my nearby Philadelphia has a lot of problems (as do all sorts of other cities), but no need to sell other Americans short. I recall quite a number of people across the country donating blood, money, and whatever else they could to help New York post-9/11. Hell, we do have another example related of this kinda business, don’t we? Perhaps the people of Oklahoma City would like to speak up and remind New Yorkers that they had to deal with a terrorist attack, too. Granted, not nearly the same scale, but I sure don’t recall talk of that city’s responders failing to rise to the occasion.

    The rest of the country is well-aware New Yorkers weathered a major storm, but that’s not “New York values”; those were American values. Face it, New Yorkers, despite what the movies, TV, and other media keep telling you, you’re not special. If anything, a lot of us non-New Yorkers are getting pretty sick of the self-righteous preening and egotism that’s been on display since the debate. That’s why “New York values” is a losing argument for that toupée-wearing blowhard. Go Cruz.

    • ForTheLesser

      Excellent point.

      • tops116 ✓Quipper

        I have to admit, it was rather cathartic to write.

        • nc ✓s & balances

          You did good.

        • bil_g

          I don’t doubt it.

    • bil_g

      How did I miss this earlier(and your other, above)?! Eloquently worded. I wrote something short earlier about this being American Values as well but you put it together much better! You hit every aspect and the vid of Bush at Ground Zero that you posted above is a perfect example. Spread this around. It needs to be read.

      I was 20 mins from the Pentagon that day, working for a Blackberry/sat phone network provider. A message came down around 10AM that said “Turn all the sat phones on. All of them.” It was an unheard of to do this.

      I had a friend whose son was working at the Pentagon. He was taking a smoke break out by the helipad(I think). He looked out in the distance and saw a plane coming right at him…

      As you stated, it was a devastating tragedy what happened to NYC, but theirs weren’t the only stories(not mine above, that’s nothing but context). How about Flight 93? How was that “New York values”?! Maybe, just maybe, it was American values. I’m more recently reminded of this by the guys on that train heading to Paris. And wasn’t it the guy that got hurt the most that came back and got stabbed multiple times defending someone?

      It’s pathetic Trump is getting ANY traction with this. Shameful.

  • Dan Abbett

    I’m sure this crass exploitation of the horror of 9/11 will be met with cheers from the rabid cult of Trump supporters over on the Breitbart site. The “Farce” is strong in the Trumpettes on Breitbart.

  • tops116 ✓Quipper

    With Trump being, well, a goddamn moron, let’s remember this moment instead:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7OCgMPX2mE

    I hope Trump and his witless supporters notice that the crowd is chanting “USA!”, not “New York!” That’s an example of American values (as was Bush’s awesome speech); what Trump’s doing is an example of “New York values.”

    • nc ✓s & balances

      Oh yes!

  • grais

    When did NYers get so whiny about apologies?
    And Trump…insults…dish it; take it, nutless gasbag.

    • tops116 ✓Quipper

      It’s another one of those things about the Trump paradox. Trump praises himself on being a tough talker and his supporters love him for it, but they all get butt-hurt whenever someone criticizes him. They can dish it out, but they can’t take it.

      • grais

        Idiots all, Trumphumpers or not.

        NY Daily News cover : Drop Dead Ted.

        So, there ya are.
        Trump’s 9/11 speech at the debate made me want to harf.
        “I saw…NY did what nowhere else could do.”
        bulloney.
        He also “saw” “thousands” of muslims celebrating in NJ on 9/11.

        He’s a gaaas baaag.

        • tops116 ✓Quipper

          I heard about the NY Daily News cover. Weren’t those the same yahoos who tried to blame the Jewish co-worker for the San Bernardino attack? “Sure, these two shot up the place, but the co-worker said some mean things about Islam.”

          • grais

            That’s them. As I remember it, the Jewish guy’s biggest contention w/the murderous-islamic-wacko was that islam was not a peaceful religion. He was correct.

            And now they try to prove Ted wrong by telling him to “Drop dead.”
            lol
            and they don’t even see it.

      • lilwren

        …paradox, not a pair of, well y’know…

  • CandanceCork

    Thank heavens I saw this, I thought I was losing my mind yesterday! Everywhere I turned the pundits were admonishing Cruz about his NY values comment. I thought it was bad that Trump bringing up 9/11 was awful because pretty much any city would have reacted the same way (maybe my city wouldn’t have had the monetary resources but we are pretty darn compassionate). I kept yelling at the TV–y’all elected DeBlasio and Cuomo! Even Rudy was fussing and demanding an apology. Wow, I feel like I am not crazy. Thank-you Twitchy.

    • nc ✓s & balances

      Notice they were all New York based?

  • GatsbyIII

    NY Mayor de Blazio says no more business contract deals for Trump. So it looks like Trump is using Cruz’s NY values comment to gain support from New Yorkers in his war against de Blazio.

    http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/20/news/trump-de-blasio-new-york-city-contracts/

    • AMD_Afficionado

      Someone in New York needs to wage war on de Blasio and it looks like the prior champion, Sean Hannity, doesn’t have the fortitude to fight against the tyranny of de Blasio and Cuomo…which wouldn’t be too much of a problem if the guy hadn’t promised that he’d vote with his feet (and loves to talk about how much of a “badass” he is).

  • lilwren

    …New Yawkers always remind the rest of us of how proud they are for being tough. Y’know what’s tough? Humility. Try some, Big Apple polishers, show us how tough you are. Humility. New York is the so-called Empire State, says a lot about your self-serving attitude. NYC is not the only city to suffer warfare devastation in this country. It was the nation of the United States of America that was attacked on 9-11, & NYC was not the only target. Youse guys need to get over your selves…

  • lilwren

    …Rudy, I respect you, but fuggedaboudit as far as any apology is owed to youse guys. Nothing but New Yawkers squawking…

  • Rick Owen

    New Yorkers responded to 911 as human beings and Americans. Everybody felt that tragedy, but for New Yorkers it was especially traumatizing. But what does that have to do with their politics? They’re still overwhelmingly liberal, and are thus betrayed by those they elect.

    • Michelle ✓classified

      The folks and responders at the Pentagon had an easy go of it that day?

      • Rick Owen

        No. I wasn’t commenting about what happened at the Pentagon, but what happened at the Trade Center. The “folks and responders” at the Pentagon had an EASIER go of it, but it wasn’t easy by any means. It was tragic, but after the plane, there wasn’t the danger of a world trade center collapsing on the Pentagon responders, nor DC streets being filled with billowing clouds of debris. Awful, horrible, and terrifying, yes, but not as epic and monumental as what happened at the Trade Center.

        • Michelle ✓classified

          Hmmm, easier go of it? A building attacked and death all around is ‘epic’ to deal with on any level. My cousin was on Flight 175 and was murdered when that plane hit the second tower. I stand firm that NYC does not own 9/11, it wasn’t an attack on NYC. It was an attack on America and the folks who were murdered at the Pentagon and in the field in Pennsylvania mattered just as much. Just as much. Have you ever been a first responder? I’d like to compare experiences with ya.

          • Rick Owen

            Symbollically, yes, an attack on America. But literally, an attack on New York. I’m not comparing the value of the lives, the magnitude of the three parts of the attack.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOflyabs0_w

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TqqzOCPmRE

          • Michelle ✓classified

            Beg to differ and we can agree to disagree. It was an attack on America. Period. an attack on America carried out with airplanes crashed in NYC, The Pentagon and Pennsylvania. And how New Yorker’s handled their part in the attack is not different than how any American would have handled it had it happened in their city. NYC needs to get over the idea they’re special just because the major part of the attack on America happened in that city. My cousin lived in Boston, was on his way to Los Angeles for his job. He had nothing to do with NYC, yet he was murdered that day. Symbolically an attack on America? Thanks for the laugh.

          • Rick Owen

            Well, yes, that was my point–that New Yorkers acted just like any other American city would have, regardless of their liberal values. Trump’s point had nothing to do with Cruz’s point. It was a poor rebuke. But yes, the attacks were symbolic in that the Trade Center represented America’s financial power, and the Pentagon represents America’s military power. The third target? If it was the White House, our political power. America, as a whole, wasn’t literally attacked. The comparisons to Pearl Harbor are apt, but with the caveat that the Japanese were declaring war against us, while Al Qaeda was merely getting our attention. They had already declared war on us, but we foolishly refused to take them seriously.

          • Michelle ✓classified

            “…but we Bill Clinton foolishly refused to take them seriously.”

            One minor adjustment. 🙂

  • Bile Gull

    Cruz literally VERBALLY attacked the GOOD people of New York by conflating them with the ELECTED leadership that DOES NOT represent their views. His ATTACKS were a slap in the face of the BRAVE men and women of NEW YORK CITY that sacrificed it all on that September day. All to score a CHEAP political point against Donald Trump. Well Mr. Cruz, it looks like your strategy BACKFIRED big time!!!! Make America Great Again!!!!

    • texastommy

      Trumputz.

      • Bile Gull

        Americans have NOT forgotten those that sacrificed it all that day, I can assure you that this is not a WINNING argument for Cruz.

        • journogal

          You DO realize Cruz did not say anything about 9/11, and it is stretching his comment to assume he did.

          • Bile Gull

            Why say anything at all? Why alienate 8 million voters?

          • journogal

            I don’t know…ask liberals who mock southerners. Ask Obama, who made the statement “bitterly clinging to their guns and their religion.” Ask liberals who mock conservatives.

            Where was the outrage when Cuomo said the following in 2014 – “extreme conservatives” — which he defined as pro-assault weapon and anti-abortion — have “no place in the state of New York.” http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/23/nyregion/cuomo-comment-elicits-retort-from-republicans.html

            Why alienate other Americans, or does it not count when liberals do it?

            I’m a southerner, I’ve had to put up with a lot worse being said about my region. As a conservative female, I’ve been called a lot worse, too.

          • lilwren

            …the center of the Universe does not have a Manhattan zip code…

          • Petrucio14

            But if God wanted to give the nation an enema, it would be inserted into a Manhattan zip code.

          • Michelle ✓classified

            WINNER!

          • meangirl

            Lol

      • journogal

        That’s putting it nicely.

    • nc ✓s & balances

      “…attacked the GOOD people of New York by conflating them with the ELECTED leadership that DOES NOT represent their views.”
      ————-
      Excuse me, BG, but why would anyone vote for someone who does not represent their views?

      • Tyrconnell

        New Yorkers apparently.

    • Tyrconnell

      Well, if the ELECTED leadership does not represent the views of New York, who the bloody hell elected them? Martians?

    • Michelle ✓classified

      Cruz’ comment wasn’t about 9/11. Not at all. So if anyone wants to take it as a “slap in the face” then they are manufacturing outrage. Cruz was referring to Liberal values, not 9/11. But Trump plays his puppets very well. Good boy you!

      This country was attacked on 9/11, New York doesn’t not own what happened that day. Can’t wait for your reply.

  • FramersForCruz

    Trump’s comeback during debate was his only high-point and Cruz’ only hit since most people watching wouldn’t understand the message only the emotion. Actually surprised Cruz didn’t foresee this, he doesn’t miss much. BUT, Trump pushing it to this level is going to reverse the gains.

    • nc ✓s & balances

      Disagree. This was NOT a high point for Trump. And both he and Cruz were prepared for it. Trump was salivating for the chance to use it and Bartiromo handed it to him (not Cruz). Cruz was boxed in and did what he could in a bad situation. He could not fight back in the moment, it only would have validated Trump.

      What he said in the clip above was much more effective, and he will continue to use this until he neutralizes the sting. Trump tweeting out his petty jabs only hastens the moment.

  • Bile Gull

    I never did trust Cruz, especially after his father’s Cuba commie background was exposed. He gives off the stench of a Manitoban Trojan horse who will look out for the best interests of the Castro regime, not the American people.

    • FramersForCruz

      check urself for head injuries

      • journogal

        Too late.

    • AMD_Afficionado

      On that, I’m still trying to figure out how “Cruz the Elder” was admitted into the USA. From what I can find, we weren’t welcoming in communist revolutionaries during that time period.

      I’ve seen some mention of an account that Cruz’s father never actually found the revolutionaries with whom he was planning to fight but I haven’t been able to confirm if that’s anything but wishful thinking on the part of internet posters 🙁

      • Bile Gull

        Agreed, just feels a lot like Obama 2.0

    • jrc813jr

      does that mean trump will look after russian interests since his latest wife’s father was a communist

  • FramersForCruz

    Just got back from “13 Hours”, powerful! Open weeping/crying from many leaving theatre

    • journogal

      I want to see it. I’ve heard it’s intense as well.

      • FramersForCruz

        well worth the money. The viewpoint for the movie was from a Ty Woods perspective. At least that was my takeaway.

        • nc ✓s & balances

          How graphic was the violence? I want to see it but I generally avoid overly violent films, even important ones like this.

  • wrestlefan01

    oh look whats new with trump..this is basically all he has got..yet some reason the brain dead continue to support the moron.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Mike

    NYC like LA, San Francisco, Chicago, & DC all tilt left. Trump dishonors the sacrifice of Americans on 9/11 by using it as a smoke screen for his own political advantage.
    Shame on you, Mr. Trump!

    • wrestlefan01

      he is a sleezeball..yet people wonder why hilary and company want trump to win the nom so bad..they know there is no way in hell trump beats her in the general.

  • CombatDiver

    People are so fragile and look for reasons to be offended.

    • swpiston

      Just another butt hurt child (Trump), nothing to see here.

  • Sandra Stanislav

    Any liberal or ny who does not understand what d trump did is an idiot. dtrump said the same thing just a few years ago that ny have different values. do you guys not read or listen? of course you do so look it up and watch what your drump said about ny himself. he said that ny had different values than iowa. are you guys really this desperate for a win that you will accept the entire world thinking that you are stupid? the world does watch this and when they see that drump said this himself and is now demanding an apology for something that drump said. how stupid does this make him look are you willing to look this stupid too???

  • Minicapt
  • JD Son✓MyWizIzTheShiz

    Trump is nervous about a skyrocketing Cruz.

    • nc ✓s & balances

      And that’s the name of that tune.

    • Eff-BHO

      so is the establishment

  • Shoeless Joe

    The truth is that Cruz made a mis-step, and opened himself up.
    He should have been more specific about NY pols. (I like Cruz)
    Guys like Bill Crystal are outraged that Trump replied in this fashion .
    But, to the Party Esablishment any attack on Trump is ok.

  • meangirl

    Good Gawd people. Breitbart has turned into Media Matters. If you say anything nice about Cruz you get gang attacked. You are an “Evangelical Cultist”. Those people are not conservatives. They will not admit that NY is a blue state. Their answers are: Mocking, ridicule, INVENT facts like the BLM and hands up don’t shoot. Where do they come from? They are not the usual conservatives who comment on Breitbart.

    Who is behind it besides maybe Trump? Hillary?

  • genes ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ
  • Saxon14

    Cruz’s comment was a sleazy political trick to smear someone and it ended up insulting a lot of ppl.
    I live in NY. And I’m a conservative, I may be a minority here, but so what?
    The truth is, Cruz (like the rest of the GOP) has written off NY to the Dems, so, go ahead and smear them. Kind of like Romney saying ‘we don’t need those votes.’

    Don’t worry Ted, you won’t get mine, because it doesn’t matter to you anyway.

    • Eva_Galley

      Sour grapes doesn’t always make the best snack.
      Most reasonable people understood what Cruz meant.

      • Saxon14

        It’s a sleazy smear tactic that I would expect from a Liberal. Not from someone who’s supposed to be a conservative.

        And I agree with the front page of the NY Daily News, for the first time in a long time.

        • Eva_Galley

          So a “conservative” is not allowed to respond to a jab? Its okay for Trump to troll Cruz on his citizenship because of Trump’s Iowa poll numbers? Whining and petulance aren’t a winning strategy, especially with a thin-skinned blowhard like Trump.

          • Saxon14

            Whining and petulance? Who? Me? lol. You can’t hear my tone of voice or you wouldn’t be saying that… lol.
            Where do you get this Trump trolling Cruz on his citizenship?
            He was asked about it by some reporter. Trump’s not a lawyer, like Cruz, neither am I. So, I can see where someone born in Canada might not be a natural born citizen.
            Makes sense to me.
            And I don’t think it’s a stretch for Trump to ask Cruz to get some kind of declaration if he’s so confident, to put it all to rest. What’s the big deal?

          • Eva_Galley

            I was referring to Trump being whining and petulant, which he is. And why is Trump just now bringing up the issue of Cruz’s birth status? Why now, as opposed to 6 months ago. Because poll numbers in Iowa.
            Look, casting doubt on your opponent is fine. But Cruz isn’t going to take it laying down. The axiom of ‘dishing it out and taking it’ can be inserted here.

          • Saxon14

            I haven’t heard Trump bringing it up. I’ve heard Lib reporters bringing it up, and I’ve heard Dems saying they’d file a lawsuit, so at some point it becomes a legit issue.

            I think Trump was right when he said it wasn’t an issue when Cruz was polling low, but it could become one.

            I don’t see what the big deal is with Cruz putting it to rest by getting some court declaration on it.

            Seems to me would be a good “I told you so” moment for him.

            And I’ve never heard Trump ‘whine’ about anything… lol.
            That’s a joke, right?

          • Eva_Galley

            Check out @realDonaldJTrump.
            His Twitter feed is worse than a jilted teenage girl’s. lol

          • Saxon14

            I saw it. I looked at it earlier.
            But that’s just your opinion, which is kind of like another smear tactic.
            Which I haven’t done towards Cruz, chatting with you.

            Vote for who you want my friend, because in the end, anyone will be better than Hillary or Bernie.

          • Eva_Galley

            I have no need or desire to “smear”. I just state facts.
            But I do agree that anyone is better than a liberal.

          • jrc813jr

            trump brings it up all of the time in his rallies. even says cruz cant be trusted cause he isnt an american. and what ted said was he was just going on what trump himself said in an interview. the video has also been released that showed trump saying his values were ny values which are different from iowas

          • Saxon14

            I don’t trust Cruz either, not for those reasons but for others.
            Yes I saw the 17 year old cut-up video… nothing new there.

    • nc ✓s & balances

      You know what? I live in California and I’m a conservative, surrounded by more libbies and LIVs than anything. That’s just a fact. So when people point out that California is not the same as, say, Arkansas, I am not offended. It’s a general statement that doesn’t cover every single person.

      • Saxon14

        Ted didn’t “Point Out” anything. He’s using it as a smear tactic, at least that’s how it sounded to me.

      • NannoH

        New Yorkers are elitists who think they are just a little better than the rest of the country. That is not news to anyone.

    • aztectrumpet
    • NannoH

      Sorry, New Yorkers are known to be rude, brash and in-your-face and that is the reason they are not well liked by the rest of the country. Facts are facts.

      • Saxon14

        I can’t really argue with what you’re saying here about New Yorkers, but I don’t think that’s what Cruz was talking about.

        He said $ and big media in the debate. Well he takes NYC money, and he needs the big media too, so… something fishy there.

        • eztalk ♀ENTP – The Visionary

          One quick internet search proves your point about NY wrong:

          New York ultimately claimed the title of No. 1 rudest city, a dubious award determined as part of T+L’s annual America’s Favorite Cities survey, in which readers rank 35 major cities in categories such as the best pizza, the most pedestrian-friendly streets, and even the most reliable wireless coverage…

          http://www.travelandleisure.com/slideshows/americas-rudest-cities/2

          I’ve lived in 24 of the states and found that the folks up north are just a little too rude for my tastes.

          • Saxon14

            Did you even read what I wrote? Obviously not.

          • eztalk ♀ENTP – The Visionary

            Apparently, I didn’t.

  • http://wandererswaysite.wordpress.com Wanderer

    I’m sorry, but if you’re a conservative Republican living in NYC, you know better than anyone else in the world just what Ted means by “New York values.” And you agree one thousand percent too, because you’re sick of living with them day in and day out.

    Not a good hit for The Don.

    • nc ✓s & balances

      Exactly!

  • OwlCreekObserver

    I saw that on the news and couldn’t believe how he twisted Cruz’s comment to make it sound like something totally different from what he meant. Those of us in the real world know exactly what Cruz meant by New Yawk values and it had nothing at all to do with 9-11. New Yawk is an ultra-left and wide open society where anything goes and perversion of all types is promoted and embraced. That’s what Cruz was referring to. He really should have just said “no moral values at all.”

  • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

    9-11 is colossal testament to the failure of big government.

    Should never have happened in the first place.

  • brickman

    What are Calgary values like?

    • Michelle ✓classified

      How would Cruz know? He was raised in Houston.

      • Bruce

        I have tried (constantly) to cut Trump some slack for a while, now, but this takes the cake for underhanded pandering. Hope your family is doing well, by the way.

        • Michelle ✓classified

          I’m right there with ya Bruce. Each time I cut Trump some slack, he comes back with more stupid x2. I’m not sure I can cut him slack this time. Cruz was clearly referring to Liberal values, and Trump slaps down 9/11? Considering my family’s loss that day, I find that unforgivable.

          And thank you – we’re doing the best we can. I just returned from NH and packing up my brother’s belongings. Doing my best to take care of Mama – Sundays are the hardest for her since she and my brother had a standing phone date and talked every Sunday.

          Fun note: While in NH, went out to dinner with a cousin in Nashua and saw Rubio’s campaign bus parked outside Marriott. Took a pic of it for some reason.

      • brickman

        He was born in Calgary. You could say that he is the Calgarian Candidate plus he held Canadian citizenship for over 95% of his lifetime.

        • eztalk ♀ENTP – The Visionary

          Being born and being raised is two different things.
          I was born in a town called Shamrock, but don’t know a hill of beans about the city.

        • Michelle ✓classified

          I know where he was born. But he was raised in Houston – attending elementary, middle school and high school there. That means he was raised in Houston. So again, how would Cruz know what Calgary values are when he left there before Kindergarten and never maintained residency in Canada since he was younger than 5 yrs old?

          • brickman

            I have friends in Texas who tell me that Austin, Houston and Dallas are like NY. Democrat cities run by liberals. Maybe why Cruz turned out so smart. That and his education at liberal bastions like Princeton and Harvard..

          • Michelle ✓classified

            And yet, he’s a Conservative. I’m born/raised in Los Angeles, then lived in Boston for ten years (both majority Liberal cities), now back in Los Angeles, am very college educated and yet, I can’t stand Liberals or their values. Well fuck, so much for stereotyping.

            Ever notice you have made 11,000+ comments, yet only 7,000+ upvotes? That speaks volumes about your opinions. I’m done giving you attention and won’t even be reading your reply to this. Have a nice day, troll.

          • brickman

            I usually comment on Bernie Goldberg’s site. No one wastes time with upvotes. Did you not get enough stars on your homework as a kid?. It’s because of your language.

  • NannoH

    Wow! Trump really got down in the muck to do this. 9/11 has nothing to do with what Ted Cruz was talking about. That was an event all unto itself and the whole country supported New York and the Pentagon and Somerset PA, for that matter.
    New Yorkers are brash, rude, and very different than the rest of the US. Cruz is correct on this and Trump is acting like a jerk.

  • https://twitter.com/fedupamerican5 EverydayWoman

    If Cruz can’t take a Trump’s attacks, he will be CRUSHED by liberal media in general. Twitchy is so anti Trump that I am losing interest here!

    • eztalk ♀ENTP – The Visionary

      You can say that about Cruz when Trumps says he’ll attack anyone 5 times over when they attack him? Really?http://radio.foxnews.com/2016/01/13/donald-trump-doesnt-plan-on-attacking-anyone-at-thursdays-debate/

      This is how he treats anyone who tries to expose him….and no, I’m not talking about the crippled reporter he cruelly imitated http://patterico.com/2015/09/22/trump-threatens-critic-with-frivolous-lawsuit-designed-to-squelch-speech/

    • ThomasOfKC

      good, take your pro partial birth abortion New York values away

      • https://twitter.com/fedupamerican5 EverydayWoman

        PP is keeping the ghetto-ization of this country away. Your inner cities would be worse than they are if all those baby mamas were to breed like insects without the PP abortions! I am against abortion personally, but I am not gonna righteously force a cruel woman, if a woman is animal enough to kill her own baby before birth, what kind of monster she will be as a “mom”? She will raise monsters who we wish were dead when found out the crimes they commit!

  • interestedobserver2

    Love the way that jackass callling himself “Rogue Zionist” claims Trump is “uniting” anything…

  • Bruce

    If GDP was determined by the number of times insulted, the American South would be the greatest financial power on earth. Hey, Noo Yawkers, youse guys cut it out wit da fawks owtrage…and suck it up.

  • Secure

    Conservatives have spent the last eight years criticizing Obama’s lack of private-sector experience, and who is Ted Cruz? – a one-term senator, a lawyer, with zero private-sector experience! Unbelievable he’s even being considered by conservatives!

    • LJ Lab

      Yeah Cruz and Walker were the most terrible candidates for a general election. Walker was able to realize this early and headed for the hills. Cruz is too much of a narcissist to realize it. Trump has him on the ropes, KO blow coming anytime.

      • eztalk ♀ENTP – The Visionary

        You can tell when someone isn’t from Texas when try to tell us what Cruz has done and hasn’t done.
        It’s pretty funny, actually.

        Hey how much is Crump paying you and Secure to do this?

        • LJ Lab

          Im sorry but ive had enough of Calgary Ted. He is a phony in my opinion.

          • eztalk ♀ENTP – The Visionary

            Yes, you are sorry. I’ve had enough of the phony Trump.

    • jrc813jr

      yeah he was too busy being the solicitior general for texas and arguing cases and winning in front of the supreme court

  • eztalk ♀ENTP – The Visionary
  • Sassygeorgiegirl

    Trump had already used the 9/11 comment in a previous stop before debate. No way Cruz didn’t know about it. People are really starting to think about what NYC values are and Trumps connection with them. Heck it’s Trumps own words.

  • ThomasOfKC

    I realize that I am not as smart as y’all big city folk, but did not Trump state that he supported partial birth abortion because it was a New York value to do so? If Trump is the GOP nominee he will not get my vote