While the House was debating a bill this afternoon to provide funds for veterans’ benefits, including disability payments, the GI Bill and VA home loans, the Senate was getting packed up and ready to head home, having adjourned for the day. That means the government shutdown will continue for at least a second day, but it also means the Senate will likely find a clean continuing resolution on its desk tomorrow morning that protects funding for veterans’ benefits. That should be an easy vote, right?

Maybe not. Rep. Nancy Pelosi is suggesting that the Senate should reject anything less than a continuing resolution that funds the entire government. Pelosi says anything less is “using” veterans as a bargaining chip; Rep. Steve Stockman (R-Texas) says the idea that the Senate could vote it down is “sick.”

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid had warned that the Senate would not “cherry-pick a few parts of the government to keep open,” and President Obama has vowed to veto anything less than a full continuing resolution.

That depends on just how red this particular red line is, but it appears likely the Democrats would vote down a resolution that funds only veterans’ benefits.

Hold on a minute: if it’s all or nothing, why was the president photographed last night signing a bill that would ensure members of the armed services continue to receive paychecks throughout the shutdown?

Despite Reid’s warning about cherry-picking, it looks like that is exactly what the GOP intends to do, first with military pay, then with veterans’ benefits, and then with the Smithsonian and national parks. Did we forget to mention Obamacare funding?

Of course, Pelosi and the Democrats just won’t let go of the “taking the country hostage” metaphor.

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Update: It looks like that bill won’t be on the Senate’s desk tomorrow morning after all.

  • TroyGates

    So Dems would rather hostages remain hostages? That’s some twisted thinking.

    • Republicanvet

      Whatever. I have a big FU to dems. The only time they ever wanted anything to do with us was when a photo op was beneficial to them.

    • JMW

      The dems don’t care if old WW2 vets, who are visiting the memorial for the first and probably only time, get to actually enjoy the memorial that was built to honor them for all the blood they shed and the sacrifice they gave for us all. Get some local vets from the VFWs and get down there and open the memorial for the old timers! #HonorFlight #StandWithVets

  • Taco Boutit

    She is one sick, twisted b*tch.

  • BoscoBolt

    Holy crap. I wish I could say that I’m totally SHOCKED, but, democrats’ negative opinion of, and complete lack of respect for our military, and our veterans, is well documented.

    Had enough yet, America?

  • Stephen L. Hall

    Send it up, make them veto each and every aspect of government just to push socialism.

  • annoyinglittletwerp

    If I were to say what I’m thinking right now-I’d get the banhammer. Grrrr!

    • Hot_wings

      Hi ALT, I have seen you on Hotair haven’t I ?

      • annoyinglittletwerp

        Yep. That’s me. I actually DID get banned over there in June-but only for a week. LoL

        • Hot_wings

          That really blows . I remember that. You have a lot of loyal supporters there, I think they may have even boycotted HA until they lifted the ban hammer on you. Well great to see you ! :)

        • Hot_wings

          BTW you may have seen me there as cableguy615

    • Joe W.

      Go for it. It happens to me several times a day here….

  • Marvin Nelson

    These God forsaken DimocRATS continue to up the sleaze factor. I don’t understand how anyone can stand to look at or listen to them. This time, they might have screwed the pooch, especially in light of today’s incident at the WWII Memorial. This is a slap in the face to every veteran and all of those who made the ultimate price so that these a$$hole, dumba$$, evil, vile, despicable, low rent, snake licking, [email protected] have the freedom to act like spawns of Satan.

    • Doug N Carol McGraw

      Amen, Marvin. Couldn’t have said it better myself.

  • tops116 ✓Quipper

    All to support a law she exempted herself from. Nice one, Nancy.

  • WisconsinPatriot

    When dealing with a child, you need to break things down into small manageable pieces. Carry on.

  • OLLPOH ~ OurLifeLiberty

    This woman is the lowest that could have ever been elected into our Nations Capital, she has such hate for all of the generations and generations of our families…P h e w!!!!!!!!!

    • Deborah Hallsted

      Glad the Catholic Church told her she can’t take Communion anymore. Even they are fed up with her hypocrisy.

  • ChampionCapua

    Why does Nancy Pelosi hate those nice Red Tails/Tuskegee Airmen?

    • Zane Henry

      because those exemplary Americans aren’t the kind of people that Nan and her kind can get all strung out on the entitlements. They showed true patriotism and that’s anathema to Mrs. CrazyPants.

  • URGR82

    How they pushed Obamacare through is a major reason for its opposition. ..add to it all the flaws and its no wonder there is a big fight over it

  • Old Patriot

    Maybe it’s time for us veterans to go to Washington, DC, and start having another camp-out on the Mall. Maybe this non-veteran president will get a clue. It’s hard to say, though — McPain hasn’t yet.

    • David Craig Franklin

      I am with you there.

    • vetgal1970

      I’m in

    • 0bamasnought

      Someone has a birthday on 4 August 2014.
      What’s the weather like in DC in August?

    • Doug N Carol McGraw

      Ready !!

    • Donna Wolf

      Boy howdy! wouldn’t that be something. Of course you recall what the Generals Patton, MacArthur and Eisenhower did to the vets of the time?

      Purely a rhetorical question!

  • Steve__Jacobson

    So, the Dems had the verterans, what’s new?

  • Matt

    At least there were 32 Democrats who did try to pass it.

    (If I’m doing the math right.)

    • Zane Henry

      my guess is there’s more than a few of them that are up for re-election in 2014

      • Matt

        Yeah, 100% of them.

      • BAW

        Yes, up for re-election in districts that are not guaranteed Democrat districts. Or Democrats who are still pretending to not be a crazed left wing loons. Aren’t there even still a few, 5 to 10 maybe blue dogs?

  • ObamaFail

    I’m guessing that’s somehow Republicans fault, too? Pathetic Dems. They care more for Obamacare and more control than they do our veterans, who deserve nothing but our respect.

  • grais

    Only Obama gets to cherry pick, because he “won.” Anyone who believes otherwise is a racist.
    (do ya need a /sarc/?)

  • CableNewsGuy

    Meanwhile the funding of terrorists continues.

    • ObamaFail

      I hope Obama isn’t still sending money and arms to the Syrian rebels (Al-Qaeda) while all of this shut down stuff is happening.

      • Matt

        Probably hid in some list of essentials.

    • nc ✓s & balances

      So prophetic…

  • Brian

    I really hope this next election we can get all the dems out of office
    before this country is completely destroyed

  • digitalPimple

    So Pelosi says wont use them as political pawns then uses them as political pawns. Only Pelosi would be so utterly stupid to do that. Hate to break it to her but my guess is the vets are not much on Obama’s side of much these days..

    Keep digging. Great ads being made for 2014 here… Bless you Pelosi and Reid. You sure deserve it.

  • gracepmc

    Dems — petty tyrants.

  • Ronald Green

    He’s paying the military cause, just like Clinton, he’s scared not to. Bad things happen when you p.o. the guys with all the guns and tanks and ships and planes….

  • LordStark

    Stockman just wrote curb-stomped ha ha yes I love it!!

  • laura_PH

    I know this is a small thing, and there are much bigger things to gripe about but for pity’s sake can’t he even use a freaking coaster on the Resolute desk for his bottle of tea? Like school on Saturday – NO CLASS.

    • lainer51

      it goes hand in hand with putting his feet on the WH furniture in almost every picture. NO CLASS, NO MANNERS, NO DIGNITY!

      • BAW

        It’s a matter of respect. No matter how the left whines, I am not obligated to respect him or them because they show none.

        Just as they showed none with this vote against our nation’s veterans.

    • nc ✓s & balances

      Good catch! Thank you!

    • Deborah Hallsted

      He wasn’t raised to respect anything American.

  • JamieD✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

    Pelosi must have a mission… Remove everything good in America.

  • froggy19510

    Good. Let them be on record as wanting to starve and kill vets. Everyone should decry the Democrat war on the people who help keep our freedoms!

  • Bill Phillips

    DO IT WITCH! I dare you! Show the American people exactly who is wanting “All or Nothing” …it’s NOT who Obama lyingly claims it is!

  • BAW

    I think they picked the wrong place to draw their red line, apparently so did more than a couple of Democrats.

    Wouldn’t that vote total have to include at least 30 Democrats voting for the bill?

    Will we see massive news coverage about this disagreement on tactics in the Democrat party? Will the press even bother to ask one Democrat why they voted with the Republicans?

    • Falcon D. Stormvoice

      “Nope. Sorry, nothing” – The Courier; TESV: Skyrim

    • Deborah Hallsted

      Today’s “NEWS” articles on MSN, (I kid you not, check it out)

      ” You Otter Know These Mind-Blowing Facts About Otters”, “Search; Pooches of the Rich and Famous”, and what about “Life On A Farm, It’s Not Always Like This”, not to mention the tagline- “goats, chickens found in a trunk”. Oh, yeah, and in unimportant news; one lone mention “Shutdown: Sun Sets on a Dark Day in DC”.

      So, yeah, “Animal Farm”.

  • stuckinIL4now

    “Pelosi: Rs took hostages on funding bill, now ‘releasing hostages one at a time,’ e.g. parks, veterans…”
    Uhhh, the “Rs” took hostages one at a time? Let’s talk about how Obumuh, Reidickulous and Poolosi took the entire country hostage when they rammed’n’crammed, slammed’n’jammed Obummercare down the collective throats of Americans and are now shamming’n’scamming us even more with this “flaming” trainwreck.

  • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

    Run with this, GOP! 24/7!!!

  • nc ✓s & balances

    Why is it that when libbies want to blame Repubs for an impasse, it’s called a “shutdown” and it’s all blame and name calling.

    But when they do it, e.g. unions, they call it a “strike” and they expect everyone to rally around, no matter who is inconvenienced.

  • JGoolsby

    As a disabled vet, I am VERY disappointed that Tammy Duckworth, a military hero, is one of those who put ObamaCare ahead of her fellow veterans and as Rep. Stockman said, voted to “curb-stomp” her fellow vets. That’s obscene in my book.

  • SonsOfMontesQ

    THE CR DID NOT FAIL, TWITCHY! …what failed was the vote to suspend rules on it, which means it would go straight to vote without time for debate or offering of amendments. that’s why they needed 2/3 majority. they will take the CR back up tomorrow morning and will have allotted time for debate and offering of amendments. when that’s finished, then they will vote and the bill will pass with only simple majority needed. the repubs miscalculated and thought the dems would agree with CR and therefore wouldn’t want to debate or offer amendments. they were just trying to speed up the process, but the dems balked on that. the CR will pass tomorrow but it’s just going to take longer.

    again… THE CR DID NOT FAIL! only the vote to speed up the process did

  • Aruana Zeelie

    Games, games, games ………

    The Sad and Predictable Death of the “Fund Our Veterans” Republican Gambit

    Ideally, as of this morning, Republicans were hoping that Democrats would come to Jesus and agree to form a conference committee to hammer out the continuing resolution. As of this afternoon, Republicans thought they had a Plan B (honestly, more like a Plan F at this point) that would scramble the “narrative” of the shutdown and bring Democrats back into the ring.

    The plan sort of came from Sen. Ted Cruz. On Sunday, Cruz could see that Barack Obama would demagogue the shutdown by wailing that Republicans were taking away veterans’ benefits, closing public parks, playing the new Miley Cyrus single on blast, and so forth. “I think we ought to start passing continuing resolutions narrowly focused on each of the things the President listed,” said Cruz.

    On Monday evening, a few House Republicans started talking this up. Again, this afternoon, it became full-on GOP strategy, with the House GOP reading a small bill that would fund veterans’ benefits, public parks, and the District of Columbia. After 7 p.m., it would get a vote.

    Before that vote, you could find plenty of Republicans high on the strategy. Mike Lee, Cruz’s Senate life partner, gave a speech attempting to flip the “taking government hostage” attack onto the Democrats. “Let’s leave Obamacare for another day and not hold the vast majority of government functions hostage when the vast majority of government functions don’t have anything to do with the implementation and enforcement of Obamacare,” he said. His phrasing confused people, and on a conference call Sen. John Cornyn seemed to think that Lee had just surrendered.

    “I agree with Mike that this is not the best vehicle, or really the right vehicle, to fight that fight,” he said. “It sounds like we’re all unified that any opportunity to defund Obamacare through the CR, if there was such an opportunity, it’s now gone.”

    I asked Cornyn about Lee’s specific plan — did the mini-CR make sense? Could the GOP pass that and not fund Obamacare?

    “Part of it is to make clear it’s not Republicans who are determined to shut down this process, but rather Harry Reid, and the president, who kind of like where we are because they think they win that battle,” he said. “This is a pretty good idea, but it’s not one that’s going to sustain us forever.”

    Lee and Cornyn made the same mistake. They didn’t see how the Democrats could bring down the bill. But they could, easily. Republicans were trying to suspend the rules to pass the mini-CR, protecting it from Democratic tricks or amendments. That meant they needed a 2/3 vote of the House; since 428 members were voting, they needed 286 of ’em. That freed up most Democrats to kill the bill, and 164 of them did so.

    This sparked immediate outrage on the right, best (and most educationally) expressed by Heritage Action’s Michael Needham.

    A great point, but here’s an often-ignored problem with gerrymandering: It shores up Democrats, two. On the veterans measure, the most politically treacherous, thirty-three Democrats voted with the GOP, blunting possible “why do you hate the troops?” attacks. They included Iowa Rep. Bruce Braley and Michigan Rep. Gary Peters, who are running for U.S. Senate, and a bunch of members from swing seats or deep red seats, from Arizona Rep. Ron Barber to Utah Rep. Jim Matheson. I don’t know how effective the “he voted against our veterans!” attack will be when this saga ends, but I’d guess the other members will be safe if the government is funded at some point. Anyway, the DC and parks provisions went down by larger margins.

    So: For the second time, the GOP pursued a Ted Cruz strategy to embarrass Democrats into taking tough votes, underestimated how many of them would take them, and won nothing but a talking point.


  • wickedgoodboy

    i wish you all would look at the crap liberals who are against god , prayer , and pro homosexual have put a site on facebook with this pic .liberals have to be the most dishonest selfish turds ever. if they would get a job and get out of their parents basement they would not have time to be such ungodly nuts

    • Deborah Hallsted

      Posted by ACTUAL Sodomites.

  • Anthony Clay

    As a veteran i am well aware of her hatred of the military and her love of NAMBLA and all things transgender

  • http://xirtamatrix.com yourmamatoo

    Pelosi is a hypocrite.
    She should be shamed on the world stage because of this.
    Where is the lame stream media on this?

  • sanchez

    Well, we see that Obama is the only person who can change duly passed and signed legislation.

    When the CONGRESS, who used to have the only power to do so tries to, it is shut down by the King and his men.

    We no longer are a constitutional republic. I never thought in my life I would witness such destruction of 200+ years in such a short time.

  • Thomas, Snarkmaster General

    So, it’s wrong for Republicans to pass a CR that defunds Obamacare…and it’s wrong for Republicans to pass individual CRs to keep agencies funded?

    And people wonder why I mock Leftists for being two-faced morons…

  • The Jackal

    Democrats Suck!

  • 2hearts4life

    Hey Nancy Pe-loser!:

    “Funny business, a woman’s career. The things you drop on your way up
    the ladder so you can move faster. You forget you’ll need them when you get
    back to being a woman.” (‘All About Eve’ Bette Davis/Margo Channing)

  • Mahout02

    So you’re surprised when the same people that prevented WWII Veterans from visiting a memorial, spit and Booed at Vietnam Veterans when they returned home, and constantly accused Iraq and Afghan vets of War crimes, would voted against funding for these very same Veterans?

    • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

      No surprise here.. Jawamax 8<{D}

  • PJParks

    Jared Loughner shot the wrong person.

  • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

    So, how’s that “Conservatives holding the Country Hostage” thing going Nancy Nanners and Filthy Harry? Your side refuses to negotiate, but those who are REALLY fighting for Us, the U.S. #PaulHarvey are the “Terrorists” with “Bombs strapped to their chest?” They represent REAL PEOPLE, not a Political Party or a President…. And, SIXTY+ PERCENT OF THE REAL AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT WANT THIS PYRAMID SCHEME OF A HEALTHCARE BILL! /Rant off
    #RightWard Jawamax 8<{D}

  • AdmiralXizor

    One more example of what we face.

    Are we still going to stay home in November, or are we going to bring our friends & families to (1) defeat EVERY RINO in primaries, and (1a) Defeat EVERY DEMOCRAT in the general election?

    Stay home, and liberal votes count double. Just saying.

  • Aruana Zeelie

    On Capitol Hill, the Obamacare fight is no longer about Obamacare
    By BYRON YORK | OCTOBER 2, 2013 AT 5:21 AM


  • Piper2

    Obstructionist is Obama’s And the democrats first name. Obama came to Rob, Kill and destroy. He succeeded doing all three.. After committing murder in Benghazi Libya , Trashing and slapping veterans around is child’s play to him. Americans insisting on accountability for Obama’s scandals and criminal activities in the last five years, is trumped by political correctness and the corrupt mainstream media. These are the corrupt parasites holding America hostage.

  • Axelgreaser

    WHEN ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EVER GOING TO REALIZE…they need to follow the lead of the forefather’s and earliest American’s and tell King George Obama I, to take his taxation without representation, his murderous O’CrapCare and all the bullying that accompanies it including the IRS and ‘shove it!’ Tax revolt is the ONLY weapon American’s have to fight this ‘regime’ which is punitive, spiteful and dictatorial beyond belief. In April, just withhold those checks and watch how fast they begin to turn their deaf ears and empty heads back in our direction, because our best interests are NOT their priority. American’s now, like the earliest ones are being exploited and disrespected like never before in our history. Recently the extremely wealthy Mrs. Pelosi who has a worth of around $35 million (excluding $17 million her husband Paul owned in Star Kist stock & other ventures, properties) and whose government pay is listed at $174.000.00 (and all the inside trading she has time for during a typical day, stock trades, etc.) posed wearing a very famous name silk scarf costing as much as many Vet’s have to live on in a month, $895, and I daresay many of them find their lot in life that they’ve have to forego plenty as it is. She was wearing it at a press conference where she was no doubt calling the rest of us ‘arsonists.’ And now she and her ilk have made moves to keep Vets away from their own monument in D.C. to add to what they’ve given up already, such as their health and in many cases, limbs. And those trips to Italy to see the Pope, or their Botox treatments they were so fond of. Or hopping on a private jet to fly across the the street to peruse Cartier. Or just getting a claim processed. Just trying to stay alive. Nancy Pelosi is more out of touch than the next constellation. examiner.com/article/liberals-who-live-glass-houses-still-throw-rocks