Dylan Ratigan, former host of “The Dylan Ratigan Show” on MSNBC and a frequent Huffington Post contributor, has joined the ranks of those who are finding out that if you like your health insurance plan, what you get to keep is a cancellation notice. A policy for $170 a month? Isn’t that one of those “junk” or “subpar”policies he should be glad to be rid of?

Sounds like Ratigan assessed his own needs and liked his plan the way it was. That was the promise, right?



  • Maxx

    Eventually at this rate, given time, they’ll all become conservatives.


    • Canadian in USA ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      Only when it comes out of *their* pocket.

    • Ariadnea

      The stupidity of people clamoring for universal health care, knows no bound. People are already complaining about high premiums now, how much higher it would be, had the government monopolized the delivery of health care. On top of high premiums, the quality and speed of delivery and service would deteriorate to unacceptable and life endangering level. If the government could not manage to deliver a simple web site for only providing a very limited insurance market place, with three years of preparation, how much more when delivering as complex and convoluted as Health care for 340 million people + 40 ~ 50 million illegal immigrants.

      Just look at public education; poor, lousy, with criminal teachers, administrators, and bureaucrats can’t be fired timely and easily; same will be true when government runs healthcare. During government health care strikes, the unions will literally have the lives of patients under their boots, and they would do it while gleefully screaming their demands. To clamor for government running healthcare, is delusional and suicidal.

      • Texan357

        It’s ignorance of basic economics. I don’t know how it is now, but when I was in college, we were required to take courses in macro- and micro-economics.

        Perhaps the curriculum has changed. COMMON CORE!%$#

      • Borat Insane Oretard


        For an example of how incoherent and ignorant leftists actually are take a look at this stream-of-libtard-consciousness:

        Here’s the reason we had to rush Obamacare into law before anyone got a chance to read the bill,why the incoherency and arbitrary nature of the bill’s language HAD to be overlooked,etc,etc.

        “Agreed, since these policies cover so little, others end up paying when someone with this policy gets sick/hurt.”

        “Unless you have proven resources, most “normal” healthcare can be costly. W/ no insurance the bill ends up on us”

        And here’s what they say when Obamacare drives up insurance prices,as it was DESIGNED to do, in order to force single-payer on 86% of the public that did not WANT single-payer.

        ” I know it seems expenive buddy. Mine went up too. I’m willing to share so the poorest of us can survive this economy.”

        And here’s how you make a libtard’s head explode.

        If you don’t mind paying more so others can have health insurance,and the previous system caused you to have to pay more so others can have health insurance, then what exactly is your problem* with the health care system, pre-Obamacare?

        *Honestly, I think it’s kind of like those Sally Struthers “starving Africans” commercials. They wanted to force Obamacare on us so they can have a piece of paper to show their friends how much they’re “donating” (at the end of the government’s barrel) to their liberal cause du jour,in this case, health insurance for poor people. Note to libtards, you could have gotten that for a lot cheaper than a billion dollars and with a lot less pain caused to your fellow Americans. You should have just put a petition on whitehouse.gov for the government to send you a little card with a picture of the illegal alien or dysfunctional ghetto family you are supporting with your tax dollars. I’m guessing we could do that for under a million, but if the government’s doing it, it might cost up to 100 million. Still,cheaper than Obamacare.

    • Texan357

      Very insightful comment. I remember reading once that “a liberal is a conservative who hasn’t been mugged.”

      Welcome to your mugging, moonbats. The only difference here is that people generally don’t CHOOSE to be mugged.

      Y’ALL DID.

      • adam brown

        Hah! Truth there! I became a conservative after I fell for the lies that housing can go up forever, and didnt realize cheap government money provided an environment for a housing bubble to even exist.

        Equity evaporation sure woke me the hell up.

    • $2243535

      Yes, like all the other advanced nations with universal healthcare systems at half the cost. Even the conservatives leaders in France, Germany, the UK, Italy, et al would never suggest repealing it. It provides superior results (single payer) at half the cost. No more medical bankruptcies (except for thos who refuse to buy): 60% of bankrupticies have been due to unpaid medical bills, with 3/4 of them having “coverage.”

      Ratigan may have fallen into that hole…now he will get a comprehensive policy which either he can afford or, if he can’t, which will be made affordable with a subsidy.

      The old crap policies are history. They let people down when they most needed it. Many will not appreciate the value of the new policies…….untikl they need it.

      • Mark81150 Never/Trump/Hillary

        and you again..

        layer on the “I KNOW BETTER THAN YOU MORONS” White House spin and distortion..

        You are on crack if you consider the massive horror stories from euro on their “great” single payer plans..

        Patients left to die in hallways, refusal of life giving tretments, because they’re too old/young/fat/smoke/or vote the wrong way..

        There have been several studies debunking the “cheap costs” of euro single payer, they compare apples to oranges and tell us it’s a fair comparison… no, it’s not..

        and Google says you’re full of sh*t about the euro system being better..


        Gorman believes the higher pricetag in the United States is a
        function of better care. She notes America has less disability, better
        infant mortality rates, better cancer survival rates, lower population
        blood pressure, and longer life expectancies over 65 than other OECD

        “In the United States the private system serves as the benchmark for
        the public systems,” Gorman said. “Private systems spend more on
        preventive care than public ones because private payers are willing to
        allocate funds to reduce their individual risk even though more
        preventive care increases total expenditures.”


        You Obama drones are elitist control freaks trying to get YOUR healthcare cheaper at the expense of people who make less than you do..

        Studies showing what a lie the euro system is are everywhere.. try reading a few..

        • $2243535

          Your claims, and your reliance on one right wing think tank person can easily be refuted with objective facts.

          Let’s look at the Independence iIstitute, which Gorman represents. Here is a quote from it’s President showing how partisan and right wing paranoid the institute is:

          ” In 2008, the Institute president Jon Caldara was quoted as saying, “Now remember, a year from now President [Barack] Obama might make all three activities of smoking, drinking and shooting completely illegal. This might be our very, very last opportunity.”

          The Institute also has funded the Heartland Institute, which claims that there is no scientific consensus on man-made global warming. In fact, there is.

          Now lets look at the claims by Gorman:

          1. US has better infant mortality rates than other OECD nations. This claim is refuted within the article which you borrowed from. The OECD chart shows that the US has a higher infant mortality rate than the OECD average, and the only nations which have a higher rate are all 3d world nations, not the advanced nations all of which have lower rates Of the 41 nations listed, the US has the 35th worst ranking. All advanced nations have lower rates, and those with worse include Turkey, Latvia, Mexico, all 3d world nations..

          2.The same article refutes Gorman’s tangled attempt to make the US healthcare costs (18% of GDP) appear to be cheaper. In fact, the article states Us costs are nearly 2 1/2 times higher than the OECD average

          “For 2007 this amounted to $7,290 per capita, nearly two and a half times above the OECD average of $2,984 for other countries.’ These other nations spend 10% of GDP for healthcare, and WHO rates all other advanced nations (there are 35) higher, with the US ranked 50th, due to lack of access. The case that our costs are 2 to 3 times higher than other developed nations because we get better care collapses because a) 50 million Americans have been without coverage and b) the life expectancy and infant mortality rates of all other advanced nations are higher than the US, and everyone is covered and c) 45,000 die each year for lack of healthcare.

          The US ranks 33d in life expectancy, and 30th in infant mortality among all nations.

          “A new report reveals that the United States has the highest first-day infant death rate out of all the industrialized countries in the world.

          About 11,300 newborns die within 24 hours of their birth in the U.S. each year, 50 percent more first-day deaths than all other industrialized countries combined, the report’s authors stated.”http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-204_162-57583237/

          Choosing to rely on the undocumented propaganda of a right wing think tank funded by the private healthcare industry to spread lies about the cost and 3d world results of US healthcare is laughable.

          You assert claims and horror stories of untreated patient but provide zero evidence. A Harvard peer-reviewed study showed that nearly 45,000 annual deaths are associated with lack of health insurance, according to a new study published online today by the American Journal of Public Health.

          You ignore such studies and instead rely on partisan propaganda organs, which are hired by the private insurers to mislead people like you.

          Assertions made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, but I thank you for giving me the opportunity to present evidence to show how brainwashed you are.

  • syvyn11

    Hee hee hee, Karma is a Beytoch, Dylan. You reap what you sow.

    I know I should feel sorry for him, but I just can’t do it.

    • Vennoye

      The most stupid of all is ZMF blevr!! So proud of paying more so the poorest could have insurance…….ignorance must be grand!! Poorest got priced out of having ANY insurance by this grand slam con!! The stories from poor, struggling single Moms are, to me the very worst!!

      • Chevypowered

        What will it take for some of these people to wake the hell up?!

      • Texan357

        At parks, there are signs that encourage people to abstain from feeding the bears, since they will become dependent upon contributions from park visitors and lose the ability to provide for themselves.


        I learned something from this.

        The Park Service should be in charge of everything.

  • Agent Carmichael

    Put this dorks picture next to Karma in the dictionary.

    • syvyn11

      Instant karma is going to get you, Dylan.

    • Texan357

      And in phrase dictionaries under “Reap What You Sow” and “Justifiable Schadenfreude.”

  • Czechchick76

    Yet somehow I bet this moron still doesn’t regret those two votes he cast for bho

    • GaryMc

      What’s funny is he is actually a Republican. I would have never guessed it based on how he was on MSNBC, but saw it not too long ago in an interview.

      • Texan357

        “Actually a Republican” means %!#$ to me. Three words: Grahamnesty, Boehner, Christie. Enough said.

    • Borat Insane Oretard

      I’d be very surprised if he cast less than 4 votes for Obummer in the first election.

  • $24171806

    Bwaaa, poor Dylan clearly thinks he knows what’s best for him. But what about the Hive!? And who knows – what with modern science and all, he may well need maternity care some day.

  • Republicanvet

    I’d say the Spite House would just say he was stupid for buying that plan, but we know he worked for MSNBC.

  • nc ✓s & balances

    What these libbie fools don’t get is, with the exception of birth control and a couple of standard tests, the huge deductibles will be turning most people’s plans into catastrophic plans anyway. Only with a much higher premium so they won’t be able to “set aside” that money for when it’s needed.

    • Czechchick76

      Great point that isn’t being mentioned enough

    • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ


      See, often enough, the kinds of things that happen to you that you end up needing to go to the hospital for are often covered under an automobile policy or someone’s homeowner’s or business owner’s policy, at least for the purposes of emergency admission to the hospital.

      And after the “simple” matter of getting the hospital to await the outcome of the insurers working it out, as to who pays what, under the other person’s liability insurance, there really isn’t all that much you might be out-of-pocket for in the long run. After which, your catastrophic policy issuer will look to be reimbursed under what is called “subrogation,” by getting it from the other person’s liability insurance, as well.

      So really, it’s only the accidents around the house that YOU cause, for which nobody else could conceivably be responsible, that will set you back financially– and you CAN sock a few bucks away for that eventuality.

      Of course, it isn’t the accidental part most people are thinking of– most people are thinking in terms of some acute physical ailment which will require hospitalization. That requires a bit of foresight as well.

      But no free lunches, pal– every kind of insurance mandates a self-retained risk, i.e., a shortfall that you have to reach into your pocket for to make up the diff– this, to keep you from abusing the system, by making sure you always have “skin in the game.”

      • nc ✓s & balances

        Agreed, but I personally wouldn’t minimize the importance of catastrophic health insurance. You never know when a truly horrific illness could happen to you. Few could “save up” for some of those kinds of expenses.

        But seeing the doctor when you have a sore throat? Flat tire type expense.

        • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          I was referring to covering the cost of the deductible when I was talking about the other types of insurance– it’s that first several G’s I was talking about, in terms of saving up for. By no means was I knocking having catastrophic– indeed, so far from being against it am I, that I’ve even had that sort of “junk” coverage in the past. Sure you pay for the sore throats and such. You’d pay for it if you had NO insurance and didn’t qualify for Medicaid, too.

          • nc ✓s & balances

            Thank you for clarifying. : )

    • Marcy Cook

      BIngo! Absolutely correct.

  • Czechchick76

    What kills me are the commenters who talk about everyone picking up the tab for catastrophic policies. HELLO?? That’s the point of catastrophic. I can manage my occasional sinus infection appointments with my hsa. I just need coverage for the terrible giant cost of a catastrophe. Which is how insurance should work. The way insurance of every kind but health does work. So now this fool of a president tells me it’s junk and now illegal. And the brainless minions agree. How dare they!

    • Stephen L. Hall #NonquamTrump

      Absolutely, you insure against your house burning down, not against having to change a light bulb.

      • AMERICAN Kafir™✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈwhitey

        Car insurance: Insures that you get a replacement if your car is totaled… full coverage vs. limited liability. The onus of repairs/maintenance is still on the person who owns the car..

        • Gospace

          Ensures that you get the depreciated value of the car, regardless of how ell you maintained it. I drop collision coverage whenever one of my cars hits 6 years old. Depreciated value at that point isn’t worth it.

          • nc ✓s & balances

            My late father preached this to me constantly.

          • Zach Smith

            I never insure my cars for collision, because I could afford to absorb the total loss if need be, and my family are good drivers. So far I have come out way ahead, paying only for a few small repairs which were probably less than the deductibles anyway.

  • Catchance

    Just amazing to me how many still don’t get it. Even when they’re shown over and over, somehow they think that everything is all going to work out, and everyone is going to have wonderful healthcare. Waiting for when they discover that the young and healthy aren’t signing up, and the insurance death spiral begins. I’ll bet it’ll be Bush’s fault.

  • Stephen L. Hall #NonquamTrump

    “I’m willing to share so the poorest of us can survive this economy” – @zmfblevr

    This epitomizes two problems of socialist dogma:
    1) their ultimate goal is to survive, not to prosper. This paralyzing fear makes them accept poverty, corruption and intrusion; and

    2) they are “willing” to share not just their money, but yours as well.

    • Republicanvet

      Ironically…while admitting the economy sucks.

      • Stephen L. Hall #NonquamTrump

        They “inherited” that, and despite being super-intelligent ultra-caring transformational heroes of society, they are utterly incapable of doing anything about it, in a mere five years.

        • Republicanvet

          You’re right. Boooooooosh.

    • generationimmigrant2

      Well said.

    • FilleGitane

      I’ve heard that line before. You can bet this guy isn’t ‘sharing’ anything.

    • Zach Smith

      Mostly yours. These people are willing to accept higher taxes because they expect to gain more than they pay.

    • drw

      Doesn’t most of their money come from us anyway?

  • TJ

    Obama is sorry you’re too stupid to know that the plan you had was junk. He will help you get a plan with catastrophic maternity coverage.

  • LynnnDeee

    The whole concept of catastrophic insurance confuses these leftists because they cannot imagine paying cash for normal appointments. They want everything subsidized.

    • Czechchick76

      Are they making claims to their car insurance to fix a flat? Or transmission for that matter? How hard is this? We live with catastrophic insurance everyday

      • LynnnDeee

        Collision coverage is a human right !!!!!

        • https://twitter.com/BlissTabitha Tabitha Bliss

          Just wait.. It’s coming.

        • Czechchick76

          Which leads me to another complaint. Health care is not the same as health insurance. Somehow we lost that narrative

  • ObamaFail

    Hey Ratigan, that Hope and Change must taste pretty sour at this point. But hey, “what difference does it make?” amirite?

  • ObamaFail

    I hope Chris Matthews, Chris Hayes, and Rachel Maddow lose their coverage too. Seeing the desperation on their faces as they try to report that everything is fine while trying to convince themselves of it as they’re trying to convince the viewers of it at the same time would be priceless.

    • syvyn11

      It might happen, but those three will never say anything on air. Maybe to their bedmates. And I feel bad for those unfortunate souls.

      Especially since Maddow has to pay so much for her ‘playmates’.

      • SpaceRacer423

        well MSNBC wont fire them,
        so we’ll they’ll be able to keep their plans until next year when the employer mandate kicks in.
        Of course by then,
        the 14 million who lost coverage after the individual mandate will be 10 months removed from the news cycle as the MSM will do nothing but attack republicans and promote “moderates” [RINOs] leading up to the mid terms.

    • Republicanvet

      Baghdad Bob -esque.

    • Zach Smith

      I’m sure Commiecast is paying for their “Cadillac” coverage, and also the fines or taxes, or whatever they are, for having too good a plan.

  • Jim Nichols

    if you don’t pay the bill they sue you and garnish your wages, the only ones getting away W/O paying are the illegal aliens (otherwise known as “democrat voters”) So saying “if you don’t have insurance” “we pay for you” is pure BS. Another thing is they will take your house, extra vehicles, whatever… so again those illegals who don’t own anything and send all their money to Mexico can get away with not paying…..

    CLOSE the DAMN BORDER! Impeach this “Socialist Muslim Usurper” and then we can really “fix America” anything else is just BS! There stick that in your pipe and smoke it!!

    • ObamaFail

      Good point. If you owe doctor bills, they’re going to get their money back, and it doesn’t effect anyone else.

  • Thomas, Snarkmaster General

    There aren’t enough sad trombones in the world for this one…

    • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      I was thinking more like microviolin.

  • Jeremy

    HA HA.How does that feel MR. Ratigan it sure didn’t pay to be an Obama ass kisser did it.You must have thought you were going to get a waiver lol sucker.

  • tops116 ✓Quipper


  • closedpress.com

    I love liberal logic….”im happy to pay more for others.” (wouldnt do it voluntarily though had to be forced by Obama).

    Also it contradicts the other statement that “we had to pay for you when you didnt have insurance”

  • StotheOB

    @DylanRatigan Catastrophic coverage makes perfect sense if you use insurance for – you know – insurance. Making it illegal is batshit insane
    6:27 PM – 7 Nov 2013

    Ding, ding, ding – someone gets it!

    Insurance is “in case something happens” – it “insures” you are covered in an emergency! What we are being forced to buy now is a high-priced Service Package almost none of us will use being peddled as “desperately needed insurance”

    It’s so freakin stupid it really makes my head hurt

    • nc ✓s & balances

      “High Priced Service Package” – YES!

      Except there is only one Package and the Service, after long waiting lines, will be lousy.

  • mclarksn9

    meanwhile you idiots make < 50k a year and don't realize Ratigan has millions in the bank. Right wingers sure are funny

    • Zach Smith

      This has to be one of stupidest comments I’ve read all week.

      • beebop1952

        Yeah … is the millions a good thing when demmys have it and working for a living a bad thing?

      • Joel A. Edge

        The quality of planted leftist commenters is going down.

      • TocksNedlog

        Be patient. The week isn’t over yet, and he might comment again.

    • journogal


    • TocksNedlog

      So . . . you’re calling Ratigan a liar?

  • BAW

    I have to admit the whole representative government thing is not looking particularly promising at this. There are just too many ignorant people who vote.

    I do not believe for a moment the left was “smart” enough to plan the dumbing down of the population with bad schools (I think they just wanted to do the indoctrination thing and aligned with teachers for their votes) but it has been disastrously effective. Granted it’s more than that, there’s the entitlement class, the dependency class, the victim class, but I still think the just plain stupid people may give them the power and control permanently.

  • Al’s Sad Grampa ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    Dear Mr. Rat(igan)

    The silence is deafening, isn’t it?


    Everyone who doesn’t feel sorry for you

  • Adi

    Can I state the obvious here and say that one person whose healthcare plan improved since Obamacare passed is Obama?

    Surely, He’s exempted from Obamacare but His own “marketplace” options have improved. So I was wondering why doesn’t OFA/Google touts Obama as an Obamacare success story?

  • http://Twitter.com/jkerrysforehead John Kerry’s Forehead

    This is why I want that web site working ASAP! We need people to be able to see for themselves the destructive nature of this law.

  • Texan357

    There’s an incomprehensible similarity between this story and the one about the OFA volunteers and Obamanauts who have had their insurance costs doubled – for a crappier plan.
    Let us remember that “schadenfreude” translates to “guilty pleasure.”

  • fireandreamitchell

    Stories like this bring a big smile to my face.

  • Roto ✓Intentionally Left Blank

    Re: ZMF blevr @zmfblevr I know it seems expenive buddy. Mine went up too. I’m willing to share so the poorest of us can survive this economy.

    Another bumbling idiot liberal. We’ve HAD a $250+ billion per year health insurance program for “the poorest” since 1965. It’s called Medicaid. :rolleyes:

    • QueenB ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      So why didn’t that guy find a family who couldn’t afford insurance and write the check to pay for it? That way, everyone else could be left alone.

  • drw

    Did I already say HAHAHAHAHAHA?

  • Ian Michaels

    All those members of the media that sacrificed their integrity and duty to become simple minded Obamacare P. R. agents, should be tried for crimes against the American people.

  • beebop1952

    Kind of an explanation of the dangers of believing what you hear/say at MSNothingButCrap.

  • Brother bob

    I hope that ZMF Libtard loses his insurance

  • junkbondtrader41

    Don’t anyone look to welcome him into our ranks anytime soon. Just a friendly reminder who this a-hole is.


  • AdamsParachute

    you don’t know whats best for you, we are here to help. Democrats.
    I say GFY

  • R. Scott Stewart

    Hey, Ratigan, you got ’em in there, your network ignored his shenanigans, y’all openly advocated Obamacare. Drink from the cistern you’ve been pissing in, fool.

  • JonathanSwifter

    Don’t think twice, Dylan, it’s all right: Ben Franklin returns to overturn Obamacare in the bestselling spoof of the Washington Establishment, Foundering Fathers: What Jefferson, Franklin, and Abigail Adams Saw in Modern D.C.! Second Edition: (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FEZG8UW)

    Ever wonder what the Founding Fathers would think of politics today? Now you know!

  • Brother bob


  • Todd

    Over regulation is the main cause for rising cost. What exactly do you think is the framework of any law passed in Washington. No difference with Obamacare where the confiscatory mandatesregulations drive prices up. Wait till the employer mandate kicks in. 93 million estimated to lose their insurance. Period

  • RedSoloCup

    Being an Obama fanboy hurts!

  • redheadgrl

    I wish I could buy a catastrophic plan.

  • Sus

    I so want to ask this guy, “Did you vote for Obama?”

    • WhoFarted

      He did. Twice.

  • Joe W.

    Does Obamacare cover aching sides from my laughing so hard at all of these gullible, socialistic, myopic freeloaders as they discover that they have Obama’s white glove covered arm up their collective azzes?????

  • walterc

    As they say, a Liberal is just a Conservative that hasn’t been mugged yet.

  • http://itooktheredpill.wordpress.com/ Red Pill

    4 Obama promises in less than 40 seconds (all of which apply to Dylan Ratigan, and all of which were false/broken promises):

    1) You could decide not to get in the exchange the so-called “better” plan

    2) You could keep your high-deductible catastrophic plan

    3) You would not be required to get the “better” one.

    4) If you chose to get the “better” one, it would be 14 to 20 percent cheaper than the individual market.

    One thing, Jon, you shook your head when I said that people would be able to choose the better plan because the notion was, well, people are mandated. Actually, any insurance that you currently have would be grandfathered in so you could keep it. And so you could decide not to get in the exchange the better plan — I could keep my Acme insurance, just a high-deductible catastrophic plan — I would not be required to get the better one. If I chose to get the better one, it would be 14 to 20 percent cheaper than if I were going into the individual market. I just wanted to clarify that issue.



    “ZMF blevr


    @DylanRatigan I know it seems expenive buddy. Mine went up too. I’m willing to share so the poorest of us can survive this economy.”

    Well, my cable bill is due, send me money.

  • Anonnie1

    Perhaps he’s been drinking too much tea. Either that or Ted Cruz has invented an evil mind-meld contraption, and has wormed into the brains of previously rational liberals. I predict he will have some excuse to distance himself from all of his comments shortly.

  • Alex

    Very smart central planners in Soviet “Gosplan” also tried to manage and make affordable food. Result was “50 years of bad weather”. Healthcare is even more complicated. God save us…

  • padraic 91244

    Reminds me of the old story about a conservative being a liberal who has been mugged. Well Dylan, you’ve been mugged.

    Maybe you can get a waiver by reminding them “do you know who I was?”.
    Not likely though, Obama has a record of discarding people when used. Unless, of course, if he sees potential future use for them.

  • Viet Vet 67

    Liberalism is a mental disease…I have given up trying to talk to these sheep-zombies who make no sense and simply repeat the nonsense they pick up in lucid moments when they read the NY Times, listen to the Liar in Chief or watch MSNBC. It is amazing how downright stupid they are, and most disturbing of all, how they are mesmerized by Obama’s every word. It’s a cult thing, like Rev. Jim Jones, that makes them worship the man no matter what happens or what he does.