Here’s some of that “good news” about Obamacare that the media just aren’t reporting, so it’s up to the OFA Truth Team to spread the word. Did you know that 62 percent of previous (i.e., canceled or soon to be canceled) individual plans didn’t include maternity coverage?

Good question.

No; that would make it one of those “junk” plans you’d have to be tricked into purchasing.

Related:

#Obamacare question of the day: Why do I have to buy maternity coverage if I’m in my 60′s … and I’m a guy?

  • Billie Slash

    Just let people pick according to their ideology: maternity care for conservatives, and abortions for liberals. Soon there will be less of THEM and more of us. Problem solved!!
    /sarc

    • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      Many a true word said in jest, as the old saying goes– “clown nose on,” with the “/sarc”?

      • Billie Slash

        “Jest”, indeed.

    • Evan Dickinson

      No, conservatives’ kids must start out liberal or else they don’t have a heart remember?

      This message brought to you by self-defeating conservative sayings.

      • Billie Slash

        As opposed to liberal sayings, like “Yes We Can”??

        • Evan Dickinson

          No, what I mean is that we embrace some sayings that undermine our movement. Winston Churchill (who was a conservative) made this saying which implies that young people should not be conservatives:

          “If you’re not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you’re not a conservative at forty you have no brain”

          According to Churchill even conservatives’ children should spend part of their life as liberals. It implicitly endorses the liberal view of morality that giving someone else’s money away is a sign of generosity. In reality young people are not any more generous than anyone else. Liberal young people are no exception.

          • Billie Slash

            I agree with your comments. However, I think the issue with Churchill’s comment was emotional maturity. Liberals don’t seem to ever develop it. A twenty year old can be excused, but a forty year old cannot.

          • Evan Dickinson

            Well one can interpret it that way. But if you are a 20 year old conservative it is an insult. If his second generalization is true than why is his first statement any less true?

          • Billie Slash

            If you are a 20 year old conservative, you were raised right! My compliments to your parents.

          • Evan Dickinson

            Well I was a 20 year old conservative when I was 20.

  • Jenna McCoy

    I can’t have kids anymore, but now I have to have this crap. ::facepalm::

    • Jen

      in the same boat ..33 and had a hysterectomy

      • Jenna McCoy

        I had an emergency hysterectomy at 35. NEVER have I been forced to carry insurance for something I will never use…until now.

        • cardnut

          Tsk, tsk. You must have had JUNK plans!

      • https://twitter.com/BlissTabitha Tabitha Bliss

        Me too

        • nc ✓s & balances

          Me too. A lot of that going around, hey?

    • Le Chiffre

      I can’t have kids either. Having XY chromosomes and all, and I have to have it!

      • Markward

        Yeah. Lacking certain equipment tends to cause us guys not to be able to have children.

    • CatHerder ✓fire! ✓fire!

      Too late for me and the Missus, too soon for the grandkids, but we’ll end up paying for it you betcha.

    • Prairie Sarah

      My tubes were tied 6 years ago so we dropped maternity coverage. Getting soooo tired of our federal overlords limiting reasonable choices for responsible people. (I thought they were pro-choice.)

      • nommoc esnes

        The only choices they support involve sex, gender and drugs. All other of your choices belong to them.

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          Here’s an offshoot from an oldie but goodie over at FR.
          ‘All your choice are belong to us.’

  • WisconsinPatriot

    All hail Obamacare! Bringing maternity care to men,the elderly AND the pediatric. WHEE!

    • rssllue

      Just more of the war on women by the left. They are now making the women who cannot hold the precious “water” for whatever reason, carry Obamacare’s nasty, polluted water instead.

  • tjack

    How many members from the OFA truth team have signed up for this pos?

  • [r]on

    What did we ever do before this dictator came along? Oh yea, very well. Thanks.

    • EEKman

      Oh yeah the previous system was perfect. *eyeroll*

      • QueenB ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        Did he say that? No. If you honestly think Obamacare is better than what we had, you’re crazy.

        • EEKman

          Yes, its better by a long shot. You guys are so busy whining over frankly trivial short sighted things that you forget that the people it helps had no other options before. In a few years these arguments will be comical historical footnote. In a decade or so when the smart people have ironed out the kinks the Republicans will figure out a way to tell us that this was their idea all along.

          • Republicanvet

            In a decade or so?…and how many will be dead because they have lost their insurance because of this fiasco…or will be dead because they couldn’t get the care they needed because of bureaucracy… or will be dead because their medical problem has been deemed not worth the expense?

            Was Sundby, smeared by the Spite House, short-sighted because she bought insurance that kept her alive after Stage IV gallbladder cancer for 7 years?

          • EEKman

            You all have very short memories or just didn’t pay any attention to the state of the health care system before Obamacare came along. People have been clamoring for major health care reform for decades.

          • Republicanvet

            …decades…again. I guess that’s why there are so many signed up right now.

            How many more are clamoring because they lost what they had?

          • Markward

            Or more likely you’re a deluded idiot liberal (I know, redundant).

            Wait, Did I see anyone saying that everything is perfect? No? Okay sparky, put away the strawman and get back to the topic.

          • Thomas, Snarkmaster General

            I did. That’s how I know the health care system in America was the best in the world before Leftists decided to fix it because it wasn’t broken.

          • QueenB ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            You’re all signed up, right?

          • QueenB ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            People have been “clamoring” for the economy to be fixed as well. Despite 5 years of Obama’s laser like focus on the economy, it’s still crap. I do find it quite interesting that business hired more people during the month when the government was shut down for half of it than any other month since this all started.

          • Frustrated Teacher

            So it helps about HALF Of the people it was purported to help and HARMS about 16 million others….at least. Not it is NOT better. I smell and OFA operative in the mix….

          • Markward

            I smell IRS audit for all of us too.

          • EEKman

            Revisit your numbers after March 31st. Its not that far away. The people who’s policies were cancelled will be on new policies, the vast majority of them better and cheaper. According to the cbo 3% may be potential losers in the system, 3% generally unaffected and 15% are clear winners. The rest of us had insurance through our employers and will be unaffected. None of you are acknowledging the issues in the system before.

          • Frustrated Teacher

            I won’t hold my breath that ANYONE will be a ‘clear winner’ in this whole debacle…except for those who got exempted or are crony bundlers for the ‘Liar in Chief’. I am also not confident that those of us with employer plans will be unaffected. These idiots have no idea what they are doing and the CBO has shown a remarkable ability to NOT correctly predict the unintended (or intended) consequences of liberal legislation. Keep gulping that Kool-Aid though. It’s not like you have been lied to and are totally OK with that or anything….

          • Prairie Sarah

            My family’s individual plan got cancelled, the closest comparable ACA compliant plan will be more than double our current rate. My husband and I are financially responsible and comfortable. I was planning to buy a new car until I saw that we’ll be forced to pay the equivalent of a new car payment in premium hikes because our ‘betters’ determined we couldn’t handle choosing our own plan. How many other people out there like us – the <50% who actually pay taxes – will delay purchases as well? But, wow, I really feel better knowing that I'm part of the 3% of "potential" losers.

          • QueenB ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            I was going to write a nice long reply to your numerous posts but you know, it just isn’t worth it. All that really needs to be said is you’re a moron and you should go through your talking points to delete the ones that have already been proven untrue.

          • hollywood1951

            Think again…HHS JUST said that policies through employers are next! Revisit that one.

          • TocksNedlog

            Do you ever stand at the mirror and sing “Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies”?

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Prolly stands there doing the Buffalo Bill (Silence of the Lambs) impression too.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            “he vast majority of them better and cheaper”
            I’m from Missouri. Show me or STFU because I’ve seen that nowhere in the news. And please, no lyin ass leftist news. I’m not a mouth breather that drinks the kool aid.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            “The rest of us had insurance through our employers and will be unaffected”
            You mean until next year when the hammer falls and we join the millions adversely affected this year.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Oh, are you including the millions of people that have had their hours cut or simply fired because of OBAMACARE as the better off?

          • Jay Stevens

            16 million so far. Didn’t the CBO estimate that 93 million people are going to lose their substandard health insurance?

          • Markward

            Bullshit! The moment ACA passed my premiums jumped because of it. Does the system need reform, yes. But this is not reform, this made things WORSE! Also the republican passed reform bills that were an alternative to ACA, but guess what happened to them when they got to the senate?

          • ObamaFail

            They were killed without any consideration and then the Dems would claim that there were no alternatives offered by Republicans.

          • Frustrated Teacher

            They killed Bush’s alternative plan and then claimed the Republicans had none….it’s all about the lies!!

          • EEKman

            Many on the left wanted single payer too. Many on the right just wanted tax credits. We met in the middle with a freemarket republican solution that was tested in massachusetts.

          • Markward

            Which is great for Massachusetts, except for the fact it was bloating and draining the state so they began to trim on who could be covered. Oh BTW I lived in Connecticut, so not as if I didn’t know about it.

            And this is some sort of the weird use of the word “Compromise” that I’ve seen before. Given how Obama left out all the republicans, and they were no republican votes.

            And nice dodge, dumbass. Again, What happened to the Republican Proposals when they got to the senate?

          • TocksNedlog

            When the federal government dictates what the market is allowed to sell, AND dictates that consumers must buy it, then there is NOTHING “free” about it.

          • Thomas Dobbins

            Didn’t work as advertised there, either…

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Please describe how a govt mandate meets the definition of free market.

          • ObamaFail

            Better by a long shot? Yeah, higher premiums and higher deductibles meanwhile your hours are being cut because of this “better by a long shot” system is SO much better. Give me a break. When you get the wake up call, just remember you praised it and remember that Republicans didn’t pass it.

          • EEKman

            The Obamacare plan is entirely a Republican compromise. It’s also something that was actually tested and worked well for getting people insured in Massachusetts. In the end, no Republican voted for it even though it was their idea due to this perception that they must be the opposition party at all costs. To me republicans are shooting themselves in the foot by stomping up and down and doing nothing to improve the law. Its going to work whether it takes 5-10 years to do so and when it does, what do the republicans have left? Their poll numbers are the worst ever recorded, demographics are shifting against them, Obamacare poll numbers are inching up despite 24/7 conservative news attacks, they are operating in a political deficit and surviving only by amplifying their votes using various voter suppression laws and gerrymandered districts. Still they refuse to expand their base in any democratic way. They probably would be better served doing a 180 and doing everything they can to make the ACA work, that way they could claim some credit for its eventual success.

            We are living in the 21st century guys. The next few generations will be increasingly socially liberal and will tear down and rebuild traditional political institutions. Technology is increasing at an exponential rate making social, cultural and political communication instant and global. Conservatism in its current incarnation will be increasingly difficult to justify. I wish you guys all the best but i don’t see how you’re going to pull it off.

          • Becca Lower

            I’m sorry, but do you get your news only from Daily Kos, HuffPo and Media Matters? Outside of those outlets, on mainstream channels like CBS and ABC, there are countless stories of doctors fleeing this sinking ship called the ACA. Expect long waits and reduced (rationed) treatment. You can mean well, and you may genuinely want to make life better for other people, but in a republic like ours, with a free-market economy, you do it with your own money– not someone else’s. Maybe socialism will fly in Europe, with the burden of hundreds of years of class divisions to overcome. Here, we believe anyone can rise on his own efforts, regardless of his race, creed or financial status. We don’t need government to give us a “right” that our Founders and our Creator didn’t see fit to bestow on our great nation. Good luck to you.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            ” Here, we believe anyone can rise on his own efforts, regardless of his race, creed or financial status.”
            …despite democrat opposition and hinderance.

          • Jay Stevens

            Downvote.
            “The Obamacare plan is entirely a Republican compromise …”
            Horsesh!t. The Democratic controlled Congress (both Houses) refused to allow any republican input. Remember Pelosi, “We won.”

            Downvote (again if I could).
            “… and worked well for getting people insured in Massachusetts. ”
            It worked … OK under Romney until Deval Patrick (D) got his hands on it.

            Downvote (again if I could).
            “Its going to work whether it takes 5-10 years to do so and when it does, …”
            Even if it does (doubtful even if Michelle Obama’s C- (for Crony) Team had been competent), what are the people who need insurance now going to do for the 5 – 10 years you hope it will take to fix it?

          • Jay Stevens

            Downvote
            “In a decade or so when the smart people have ironed out the kinks …”

            If the people setting up up the O’Care website were truly smart, the site would work now. Instead, the Obamas had the C- (for “Crony”) Team set up the site, not the A-Team they now have hired to fix the site.

          • EEKman

            Life is just so simple for you guys isnt it? Blame Obama and if someone questions you just stomp up and down and attack their credibility, call them names, make false equivalence arguments and continue about your day. Obama apologized for the website, took responsibility for it ( you know that thing that Republicans are supposed to be good at)

            He also revealed the real problem which would be a legitimate republican complaint if you guys weren’t too busy stomping around and screaming anything that comes to mind in a vain effort to repeal. The IT procurement process of the government is outdated, bloated and cumbersome. That’s something he can fix for future projects. If the Republican governors had built their own exchanges then the federal project would be less complex.

          • rickg62

            How is it better besides the rest of us paying for the subsidies for other people’s insurance? They’re forcing people to pay for coverage that people neither need nor want. Yeah, that’s a better plan. How about the hit to the economy? With all of the higher premiums, that’s money being removed from the economy.

  • mickeyco

    Why do libs require maternity coverage? They prefer abortion.

  • SWintheSW

    With all that “free” birth control, seems odd that we need so much maternity coverage.

  • Republicanvet

    Nice. The Obama Fool Army and leftists, rabid supporters of abortion on demand up to the point of birth and free birth control…are such supporters of maternity care.

    • EEKman

      Easy access to birth control reduces abortions. If you’re against abortion and you care about the safety of the mother than you are a liberal. Making abortions harder to get legally just drives them underground.

      • Republicanvet

        Yeah, Gosnell showed what happens when it’s driven underground. Oh wait!

      • QueenB ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        Uh no….not all democrats care about the safety of the mother because they do things like fight against a law that would regulate an abortion clinic to the level of a nail salon.

      • Markward

        and what’s wrong with having to paying a few bucks for a damn condom? Its not like a prescription pill or anything.

        Oh wait, its having to be responsible!

      • nc ✓s & balances

        Why does “easy access” always have to mean someone else pays?

        • EEKman

          Do you actually think that taxpayers are paying for birth control or do you have a problem with the way insurance works?

          • nc ✓s & balances

            You were the one who brought up “easy access.” So if that means someone gets her insurance through Medicaid or a subsidy, then yes, taxpayers are paying for it. Who else?

            If the insured pays for her own policy, why build the extra cost into the premium for an inexpensive item. Just pay for it outright.

            Is this complicated?

          • hollywood1951

            If they are going to need birth control..why don’t they pay for their own just like I did WHEN I NEEDED IT. No one else paid for mine. I took responsibility for my OWN ACTIONS. They need to stand up and take responsibility for theirs and quit saying everyone else is responsible for their wants!!

          • QueenB ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Obviously, you have NO CLUE how Obamacare works.

      • ObamaFail

        Birth control is really cheap. Only a moron can’t get it without making someone else pay for it.

      • Thomas, Snarkmaster General

        cough cough…Dr. Gosnell

      • Malcolm Reynolds

        No it doesn’t you idiot. It reduces pregnancies.

        Please cite when birth control became maternity care, which was the question.

        lemme help because I’m sure you’re dumber than a bag of a$$holes.

        ma·ter·ni·ty

        noun
        1. the state of being a mother; motherhood.
        2. motherly quality; motherliness.

        3. a section of a hospital devoted to the care of women at childbirth and of their newborn infants.

        adjective
        4. of, pertaining to, or for the period in which a woman is pregnant or has just given birth to a child.

        5. for mothers during and after childbirth or for the care of their newborn babies: a maternity hospital.

        6. for wear by pregnant women: maternity clothes.

      • Malcolm Reynolds

        By your logic, you support everyone in NYC having car insurance too.

  • tops116 ✓Quipper

    What a wonderful trade-off: a woman with cancer loses her healthcare plan, but ol’ Granddad gets maternity coverage. Period!

    • Republicanvet

      He was grandfathered doncha know.

    • nc ✓s & balances

      It’s what Progressives call Progress.

  • nommoc esnes

    Coming to a health plan near you: fertility treatments for the post-op transgendered. And you wondered why the cost of Obamacare was so high?

  • sb36695

    I DON’T NEED MATERNITY CARE!!!! Forcing me to pay for something I don’t need doesn’t make it BETTER!
    YOU LIE & apology NOT ACCEPTED!

  • QueenB ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    My 63 year old dad is so happy he has to carry maternity coverage. Especially since he’s been in a faithful relationship for over 40 years with my 62 year old mom, who has no uterus, you never know when an accident could happen.

  • RumDoooogie

    I guess they aren’t pro-choice on what kind of insurance to get

  • cardnut

    Hey, hey, people! If all the people who don’t need maternity care are not forced to buy it, such care would be too expensive for the ladies who need to keep having babies so that they can continue getting welfare . . .

  • ked5

    ’cause men and menopausal women really needed maternity coverage . . .

  • DwellsInFire

    Well if Obamacare also covers sex change operations and uterus transplants then maybe maternity care for men makes sense. Obamacare also covers mental health problems, and while I didn’t need that before Obamacare was implemented, I sure need it now.

  • ObamaFail

    So according to OFA, because some people were too cheap or stupid to get maternity coverage when they signed up for health insurance through the private system, we have to force EVERYONE to get maternity coverage because of it?

  • Donald-Now2x/Sarc-w/0calories

    This brings up a question for Libtards everywhere: If you guys are always screaming about a woman’s right to decide to choose to have an abortion whenever they want, why can’t the rest of us have the choice to abort our enrollment in Obowtome anytime WE want?

  • Mary

    Leave it to the Libtards.

  • World B. Free

    The OFA Lies Team is nothing more than a twitter trolling account. I doubt there’s anyone there who actually reads responses to their BS, and even if there is, they probably just sit and laugh at the responses.

  • lcky9

    will that Obamacare include help to get pregnant?? IF it does I am going to INSIST they make sure now that I am retired that I have a baby.. have lots of time to raise it.. and they CAN’T discriminate against me because of my age.. or I will sue for discrimination..

    • QueenB ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      I have heard in vitro in covered.

  • CapitalG

    66% of the population CAN’T have children…. and of the 34% that CAN….. how many of them will choose to KILL that unborn child???

  • stuckinIL4now

    The word “offer” is in error. And isn’t it amazing that the SADmin that pushes free contraceptives and taxpayer subsidized abortions is so insistent on requiring maternity care?!

  • Roadster73

    Remember, this is about the liberals’ definition of “fairness” as in “it’s not fair that women have to pay extra for maternity coverage and men don’t”. How does making us men pay as much as them for maternity coverage helps them, I have no idea.

    It’s just making other people pay more for something they don’t need in the name of “fairness”.

  • Paul C.

    How much of that 62% were already takers???

  • marion vega

    land of the free? reminds me of agent smith in the Matrix: ‘we’re not here because we’re free. we’re here because we’re not free’ now where’s Mr Anderson?

  • FarmGirl

    Libs are all about choice, but only when it comes to killing babies in the womb.

  • JustChuck57

    Fairness above all else. Even if it’s not fair.