As more and more news outlets report the tragic death of Pastor Rick Warren’s son, it’s clear that no one knows anything beyond what Warren revealed in an email to staff announcing the suicide. We’re certain that even Warren, who wrote that son Matthew decided to take his own life “in spite of America’s best doctors, meds, counselors, and prayers for healing,” is asking why such a tragedy had to happen. While some are simply asking the questions that anyone might ask, many ghouls are laying blame at the feet of Warren himself.

https://twitter.com/boymv18/status/320671644349779968

https://twitter.com/TheReallyRick/status/320622731953598464

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https://twitter.com/davetessaro/status/320677262397677568

Blogger Sooper Mexican did his best to compile some of the most offensive remarks before they were deleted, but sadly, we don’t imagine there will be a shortage of new ones any time soon as long as Christians are involved.

  • Jenn

    Perfect examples of the usual liberal trash.

    • NY Republican

      what did you expect? that’s why they’re liberals

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KDX6MKQ3V5OZ3RG5FXUQIAJ5DU John

        This is a perfect illustration of how leftists think. They have no problems saying or doing anything — anything at all — to further their political agenda. No one even knows if the pastor’s son is gay or straight: that is pure speculation on their part. It doesn’t matter, however, to them: they think the iron is hot, so they’ve chosen to strike. Never mind that common courtesy and decorum in any civilized society is to allow the parents to grieve: they think they see a political opportunity and will let nothing get in their way of attempting to exploit it.

        • NY Republican

          i love how they claim to support gay marriage but here are pointing to gay as being his mental illness

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KDX6MKQ3V5OZ3RG5FXUQIAJ5DU John

      I’m not a fan of calling them “ghouls” like in the title. It isn’t nearly strong enough. “Trash” is a good start, but I think that we need something special to describe the hateful, bitter, opportunistic, low-class pieces of excrement who take pleasure in exploiting personal tragedies to further their Marxist agenda.

  • JustMyOpinion

    Thoughts and Prayer’s out to Rick Warren and Family

  • B-rad

    So it’s hate to disagree with someone’s lifestyle choices? Wow.

    • doughpro

      That’s the latest accusation on the talking points list. The “in” thing right now. That and following the lemmings over the cliff by using the orange equal sign as your profile pic.

      • John Garrett

        You had the guts to say what many are thinking.

      • Kaysa Alexander

        Is there a sign I don’t know about? Or, do you mean the pink & red equal sign?

    • Christopher Salazar

      Dont they disagree with the Christian lifestyle choice. You made a very good point.

    • GTFOBigGovt

      What’s hateful is your righteous-y straw man. “wow” you must feel so important knocking it over.

      It’s hateful to claim it’s a lifestyle. It’s hateful to claim it’s a choice. It’s hateful to claim it’s a “disagreement”. It’s hateful to willfully ignore the agony of so many CITIZENS like Benjie Schwimmer who’s spent an enormous amount of time explaining himself including 5 hours of interviews giving the gruesome and poignant details of his struggle with homosexuality and his Mormon faith that he was unable to reconcile. This ridiculous fake pretense that it’s possible for a human being to go though life alone and without love simply because of people like YOU butting into his personal business and brainwashing him that a GOD would create a human with this “defect” and PUNISH him for 80 years. .

      And lastly, it’s hatefully RIDICULOUS to ignore centuries of documented gender variance, existing since at least the time Plato’s symposium 400-500 BC.

      You jackasses, the people you love to wag your fingers at were BABIES once. And all they ask is to be left alone with the same CIVIL RIGHTS as all of you. And right NOW, marriage is a CIVIL RIGHT. We won’t even go INTO little boys 5 years old being attacked as “fag*ots”.

      • RTB

        Thank you! Well said.

      • Al

        Your belligerence “assumes” he was gay. There also seems to be the assumption that if he was, his father drove him to it. The fact is, (at this point) no one on this forum knows. My heart breaks for the son, and the family. It’s a tragedy no matter what!

    • Richard Sturms

      According to progressives, gays and liberals,yes

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KDX6MKQ3V5OZ3RG5FXUQIAJ5DU John

      The “hater” label is the latest method by which people on the left try to shut down debate. They presume that we have virtue (ironic, no?) and will therefore do anything, even willingly lose an argument, to avoid the potential that we might hold hate in our hearts.

      Well, that might work for some, but I just want to know what the rules of the road are. If the rules are that there are no rules, I can play by those as well. If the people on the left really want to go down this road, such as pouncing on a tragedy to score political points, fine. Case in point: of the people who have HIV in the US, a disproportionate number of them are gay men. Every time one of them dies of it I’m perfectly capable of publicly toasting their demise–not because they’re “sinners”, because I’m not interested in making religious arguments–but merely because they’ve similarly acted as vicious, obnoxious, creeps and will therefore be treated in kind.

      “But you’re supposed to be a Christian, you hater!”

      Tough. I never claimed to be a good one. Punch and you’ll get punched back.

      • RTB

        If you toast the death of anyone due to a terrible illness then you simply are not a christian. You’re just stupid.,

    • RTB

      Being gay is no more a lifestyle choice than being straight. When exactly did you decide to be straight?

  • Johnny Kreese

    Wow. all this hate’s going to eat you up folks. Hypocrites.

  • Guest

    Every part of me wants to vomit in disgust when I see these vile comments. All this shows is how depraved and evil these people really are. To take the moment when a family is grieving to attack a man for his religious convictions is one of the most odious things a person can possibly do.

    • trixiewoobeans

      Well, it spotlights who they really are, inside, where it matters. “Out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks”. I think everybody sees the “real” them, and it isn’t pretty.

      • jellybutter

        Who they are? Inside? So you feel the same way about the people who express anger towards Susan Smith and Casey Anthony? Killing your own child is vile – and that is what these folks are thinking might have happened. They might be soo soo wrong and attacking him in his time of pain when they should be taking a moment to be silent. But the words that come out of anti-gay pastors with anti-gay rhetoric is killing children, if not his own, than someone else’s, when they repeat it to their troubled, vulnerable gay son. And the non-bigoted people find this disturbing and irresponsible, and every bit as vile as Casey Anthony, and there is no recourse for this crime in the justice system or even universal condemnation of the practice. That is vile and makes me want to vomit in disgust.

        • Donna W

          First of all, Rick Warren did not ‘kill’ his own child. Pastors – along with anyone else who feels the same way – have the RIGHT to feel as they do, they have a RIGHT to their beliefs.
          Just because a person does not agree with the gay lifestyle choice, does not mean he is automatically a “bigot” or a “hater”, or “anti-gay”.
          It’s people like you who make me want to vomit, because you buy into the media’s rhetoric, and run around parroting this clap-trap. That’s is what I find “distrubing and irresponsible”. The fact that you demand everyone else think exactly like you and your ilk, or somehow they aren’t worthy to walk the earth, and deserve pain and anguish.
          Secondly, not ONE of you who are fawning over the death of this young man, were THERE. Not one of you actually knows what happened, or WHY. You just assume.
          Sad. That is all I have to say about this.

          • Beau Hammonds

            IF (and that is a big IF), it was his beliefs being forced on the young man are what led him to take his own life, then people have every right to critize them. Truthfully, we don’t know either way, however, I have to admit that when I read the news, the FIRST thing that jumped to mind what to wonder if the boy was gay and there-by affected by his father’s vitriol. Anyone who says ey didn’t think about it is lying imo.

          • jellybutter

            Sorry – if Matthew was gay, chances are his father put a nail in his coffin. I was responding to someone that called gay advocates vile – I was not commenting on this family in particular. This is not gay bash for free day – any gay bashing comment WILL be subject to a response – and the comment that I responded to, as well as the one above it, were horrible and irresponsible and hateful. I did not once in this whole thread offer a post that was stand alone – I have only responded to other’s bigotry and hatred. And yes – you and anyone else that expresses all that you wrote above are killing our children. Some of you carefully word it in an imaginary attempt to make it not seem so harsh – but you are no better. I don’t see you or anyone else that gay bashes expressing this much concern about heterosexual couples who were married, divorced and then seek to remarry – another sin (along with many others) that is clearly in the bible, but is ignored by society. This focus on LGBT people is fueled by hatred – if you viewed this simply as a sin as you all claim, there would be no debate and no bigotry and no hate crimes against gays – you would go about your business just like you do with all the other sins that “hurt” no one but the sinner.

          • Bob Hagan

            First let me say I understand the “pharasee” problems you and those LBGT people have. Mr. Warren preaches “ALL” sin is bad, people sin due to choice and rarely use self control, sin is the problem, not people. Mr. Warren has a belief as do I, sin is defined by Biblical scripture inspired by our God. With any sin (including adultery) people are hurt, and not only the sinner but those innocents around them, who love and deeply care for them. The problem is not that some one is straight, gay, or otherwise, its that they are selfish, sin is defined primarily as just that. Speeding is against the law in this country, everyone does it, drinking and driving as well, lets say tomorrow our government makes these offenses punishable by death, with immediate prosecusion and sentence on the side of the road. Do you think someone needs to warn the speeder or drunk of the hazard? Regardless whether they “believe they will get caught doing it” with so few cops around? If you know the law would you not share this information with those you love, know, are your neighbors? Frankly your choices are yours and yours alone, I have made my choice to sin and fail, only to find out I am not perfect. But when I choose to share my belief, if you do not accept it all I will do is pray for you, not try to ram my beliefs down your throat by changing society, that I will leave to the next governmental despot.

          • oakpkdude1

            Choices? Bob, are you telling me that you grew up and remain attracted to men and that you only married a woman because it was the “choice” God wanted you to make? Because if this is true of all men then I guess I owe you all an apology. You see I thought that it was just us people that call ourselves gay that were attracted to members of the same sex and just wanted to be with someone we truly loved just like everyone else. I never realized the rest of you just made the decision not sin. I’m sorry.

          • Blade_Runner_1776

            Don’t forget the CHILDREN MURDERED everyday at the altar of abortion.

          • JINNASH

            No real evidence that gay is natural. Its only opinion surveys. Thats not real science.

          • JINNASH

            And more BS. What is the nature of the evidence that gay is natural. I have asked this question from many gay rights supporters and not a SINGLE one can answer it. By the way, opinion surveys don’t count as scientific evidence.

          • rascalofearth

            do you understand that your use of the words lifestyle and choice define you as a bigot to many of your neighbors?

          • Blade_Runner_1776

            BIGOT is a typical reactionary term used against those that refuse to have their beliefs taken away. If you want to be accepted by who or what you are, you better be willing to accept others that ARE NOT like you are. Otherwise, you are arguing in a circle. You’d be nothing but a Socialist Totalitarian.

          • IAMSuperPatriot

            A bigot is someone who espouses a prejudicial belief against others. Holding that the queer community is inherently unnatural and therefore less deserving of full civil rights than the rest of the citizens would seem to fall into that category. I wouldn’t call it “Socialist Totalitarianism” It’s not like the LGBQT community called for Conservative Christians not to be allowed to marry. They are asking for equality before the law.

          • JINNASH

            Nonsense. Gay life style is unnatural. And you can’t prove otherwise because the so-called scientists who say its natural are looking at OPINION SURVEYS. That’s not real science. And before you start screaming bigot; I DARE you to look up the nature of the evidence. Is it blood tests? DNA panels? CAT scans? Nope. No such evidence exists. Your argument is based on a house of cards. And deviant actions are not always permitted for “equality”.

          • Scott Spencer

            You are BORN straight or gay…. there is nothing unnatural in your identity since birth. The term “lifestyle” suggests choices like friends or hobbies, but it has nothing to do with sexual preference.

          • JINNASH

            Prove it. What is your evidence? In case you haven’t figured it out, this is a challenge on the raw data itself. If you have a REAL argument first you state the type of data(IE DNA screening) and then who conducted the study and then who reviewed it. So where is the proof? The DNA screening? I haven’t found anything like that. Have you? And who are the scientists who make this claim? Have they been politically compromised?
            Saying your born that way is a worthless pop song; not a valid point.

          • oakpkdude1

            Bigot means that you refuse to accept those that are different from you. It does not mean you are a bigot if you fight back against those who attack you.

          • IBXNJ

            True irony…The people who talk sooo much about the virtues of diversity and tolerance are so lividly INTOLERANT of ANYBODY who differs with them

          • Erica Mathis

            Wrong, a pedophile is different than you, are you a bigot for not accepting them for who they are? A bigot is: “someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats other people with hatred, contempt, and intolerance”. The only bigots I’ve seen posting are the gay worshiping lefties.

          • TateAshton

            A large load of dog squeeze.

          • Jeff Coil

            How do you figure that??

          • Erica Mathis

            Do you realize not everyone worships gays, nor do they have to?

          • June Clinkenbeard

            I am so angry I couldn’t formulate what I wanted to write. You did so beautifully. Thank you!

          • IAMSuperPatriot

            Denying someone’s identity is a way of killing them psychologically. Saying someone is less than human, less deserving of rights because of an intrinsic part of their being, is a way of killing them. Jesus taught us to overcome the human shortcoming of dividing ourselves and to follow his inclusive way of healing.

          • JINNASH

            You forgot “go forth and SIN NO MORE”. Sorry but you lose. Forgiveness isn’t license; its a second chance to do what it RIGHT!

          • jimmyjimmy

            HEy, turns out if you “dont agree with the gay lifestyle choice” then that means you are a bigot. Hope that helps, this isn’t very hard.

            Your amped up rhetoric reveals you for the bigot you are.

            ” The fact that you demand everyone else think exactly like you and your ilk”

            Is that the best strawman you can come up with to bash gays? FAIL.

          • http://twitter.com/bretzysdude bretzysdude

            YOU fail. You’re a sick, perverted twisted freak who in his whole pathetic life has just failed, Failed, FAILED! You probably take no responsibility for your own actions, and yet harp on people who have a strong moral conscience.

            Fail, fail, fail! FAIL-YURE!

          • JINNASH

            No the fail is people like you who have no scientific evidence that its natural. I dare anyone to show the raw data that says it is.

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        • melle1228

          He didn’t kill his own child. His CHILD was 27 years old living by himself. No one knows if he was gay, but if he was- if he hadn’t accepted himself at that point in his life; it had nothing to do with his parents. Mental health care for a 27 year old is the sole right and responsibility of the MAN, the 27 year old. And furthermore, I think you need some psychiatric care if you are comparing religious parents whom you don’t know to someone who actually drown and suffocated their own children. You have some mental issues of your own to work out.

          • oakpkdude1

            Come on. Nothing to do with it? Do you even believe your own words?

        • http://www.facebook.com/jill.hutchinson.125 Jill Hutchinson

          Clearly you have never ever listened to what Rick Warren teaches. Christians, true born-again Christians, only hate the sin and never ever the sinner. Christians care what happens to all people in the next life, the eternal forever no-going-back life. So when Christians try to lead people to Life, it is because they Love, not hate.

          • lumpy gravy

            bullsh**.

      • Erica Mathis

        Please, tell us all about the “real” them and how it isn’t pretty and how any of it has to do with the suicide?

        • trixiewoobeans

          I don’t have to tell you about the “real” them, their tweets say it all. MORE CLEARLY…what overfills the heart, comes out of the mouth. Did you bother to read them? How can you even ask? Crikey!

    • jmz

      me too, thats why i love slamming these turds

    • commonsense_is_dead

      I would say they are scum of the earth, but that would be an insult to some of the scum I know.

    • Linda Terhune

      I couldn’t agree more. I am sick over it myself.

    • Kay Headley

      These bigoted intolerant idiots just put themselves on the same level as Westboro Baptist Church swine. Wish we could put both groups in a locked room.

      • Blade_Runner_1776

        Don’t forget to include into that locked room those that work at Planned Parenthood murdering BABIES everyday. Unless, of course, the murder of a BABY is NOT an INTOLERANT and BIGOTED thing to do since spotted owls and whales and seals have more value than humans!

        • jimmyjimmy

          What kind of meds did you stop taking?

          • http://twitter.com/bretzysdude bretzysdude

            The same meds you will be on for the rest of your life, failure face!

        • oakpkdude1

          So why hate Gay people. I know many gay people and not one who’s ever had an abortion.

      • JINNASH

        Nonsense. The fact that you can tell the difference show that you are unable or unwilling to see facts as they truly are.

    • $4485292

      at the same time, if you have kids, you do NOT want to say that you do not approve of gay people. Even saying that you tolerate gays but do not approve, it will devastate your child if he is gay. Trust me, my son was gay for 30 years, and I did not approve of gays. That was 25 years of me saying to my son every single day: I do not approve of who you are and the way you were born, although I created you. (My son was 5 when he first felt different.) I regret those 25 years and wish I could have them back. I would instead say that I love you no matter who you are. I love ALL people including my enemies. But for some reason, that’s not what I said.

      • Kenneth James Abbott

        No. It was 25 years of you saying to your son; there is something that you should not do. The fact that your son chose to do it anyway indicates you did not say it enough.

        This idea that we cannot denounce a sin because sinners will be hurt by hearing it has got to go.

        • $4485292

          maybe you are right. who knows. I am attracted to both men and women, so for me, it is a CHOICE. If you’re straight, however, you may be inclined to believe that you do not have a choice, that you are born that way. It took me a long time to realize that people might be born different than I am.

          • Indynana

            Then if a man is strongly attracted to a little child – was he born that way? What is he is strongly wanting a dead corpse, or an animal… were they BORN that way.? NO …it is demonic . There are all sorts of sexual deviants that go against nature.

          • Haight

            Strawman at it’s finest, the difference is “consenting adult”. Niether a child nor animal can be consenting adults so are in no way synonymous. Homosexuality does not “go against nature” unless you consider it happening in over 1500 other species as un-natural. Now perhaps you might go read the other 612 laws in Leviticus and see how many YOU are breraking.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/KDX6MKQ3V5OZ3RG5FXUQIAJ5DU John

            The “we were born that way” argument is a debating trap. It forces you to prove a negative if you wish to disprove it. That characteristic, however, also reveals it as being specious on its face.

            Don’t fall for it. An assertion of being born a certain way is just that: an assertion. An argument requires premises and proof.

          • RTB

            It’s only a debating trap in the way that an argument supported by fact and science is a debating trap for those who still believe in myth and magic to explain the natural world.

          • jellybutter

            So you weren’t born straight? You do not have an aversion to being with a person of the same sex. It is a temptation that you are resisting every day? No, it isn’t, is it. This is not rocket science – all you have to do to understand is imagine yourself being with someone of the same gender – that aversion you feel? It is inborn and you can’t change it. Straight people are the same as gay people – they are attracted to who they are attracted to, and it is not a choice.

          • IAMSuperPatriot

            Here is an experiment. Everyone should have to be in an active same sex relationship for two years before they try a straight relationship, then people can figure out for themselves whether their orientation is a matter of personal choice.

            There are studies of attraction, where a device that measures sexual arousal is attached to a man’s penis. The studies have shown that among those who identify themselves as hetereosexual males, the largest arousal response to gay erotica comes from those most homophobic.

            We have evidence that people have sexual responses towards stimulus which they consciously say they hate -that is pretty strong evidence for orientation. If it were just a matter of conscious choice, the arousal response wouldn’t be there.

          • jellybutter

            It is demonic to compare gay people to people that would hurt others for their own sexual gratification. It is against god’s teachings to be so hateful and judgmental. Not everyone follows the same sect of christianity as you and believes it is a sin, and those that do think it is a sin would be wise to pay about as much attention to it as you do the divorce and remarriage of your neighbors – which is also a clearly delineated sin in your bible that you are not so hateful about.

          • RTB

            If it went against nature as you claim, then why does homosexuality exist in so many animal species? All human beings have sexual attractions. It’s a result of evolution. In some humans, sexual and romantic attraction is directed exclusively towards people of the same gender. How and why that happens, we don’t know. What we do know is that ignorantly labeling such attraction “sin” is as primitive and backwards as insisting that demons cause disease or that satan actually tempts people. But you probably believe those things as well.

          • Howzah123

            There are no gay animals. There is no homosexual instinct in animals.

            Irrational animal behavior isn’t something humanity should use to base it’s own morality on either

          • Beau Hammonds

            Demonic..? BWAHAHAHAHA your dumb!

          • NatesMama

            *you’re dumb.

          • jellybutter

            You don’t have a choice about who you are attracted to. You are not attracted to every man and every woman. You couldn’t force yourself to be with someone that you were not attracted to (man or woman) and live an honest life. There is not choice about the inexplainable and puzzling contributors to what makes up attraction. But for lots of folks, gender the strongest contributor. Just not for you.

        • RTB

          You are an idiot. Sexuality is not a sin, nor is it a choice. It’s simply how people are made.

          • $4485292

            sexuality IS a choice for bisexual people.

          • http://twitter.com/kommonKat KAT

            no it’s not ! if you’re BI you cannot stop being BI. You don’t know what choice means !!!!

          • AWomaninTX

            Thank you.

          • $4485292

            if you’re bi, you can choose one or the other, exclusively, that’s what i mean.

          • Richard Sturms

            YOU are the idiot!! Religion especially Christinaty is NOT a crime, BIGIOT!!

          • RTB

            No, but telling a child he’s an abomination before god merely for existing and wanting the same type of loving relationship that virtually every human being needs to be fulfilled ought to be a crime.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=604783625 Kat Katablog

            The child is not an abomination before God, though the behavior certainly is. This is what people need to understand. Instead many of you call names instead of realizing that sin is sin and our approval or disapproval of it does not change a sin into a non-sin. However, just as God loves me, a sinner, God loves gays and all other sinners;many parents like myself love their gay children while disapproving of their behavior.

          • http://www.facebook.com/rita.roach.18 Rita Roach

            I agree 100% Kat

          • Regan Ashby

            That’s because you’re an indoctrinated, religious moron. No offense, but if you actually believe Christianity is real, then you need to go do some serious research.

          • TocksNedlog

            “Wikipedia — Come Here To Lose Your Religionity”

            Catchy.

          • Jeff Coil

            You are an idiot. NO religion can be “disproved”, so doing “research” is pointless. Religion is not science. Religion is religion.

          • jellybutter

            And you just killed another child.

          • TocksNedlog

            Here, let’s say it together:
            Per•son•al Re•spon•si•bil•i•ty

            [I knew you could . . . IF you wanted to]

          • RTB

            Love between two gay individuals is no more a sin than having dark skin is a sign of god’s displeasure. You do recall that bigots once made that absurd claim as well don’t you? There is NOTHING sinful about two gay adults entering into a loving relationship.

          • TocksNedlog

            One wonders if you have any comments to make that are actually about the subject of this thread.

          • rascalofearth

            I reject your cult. and I refuse to be silent while you divert my tax dollars to support your cult. and I demand equality before the laws of my country for my neighbors.

          • Regan Ashby

            You are delusional. You have been brainwashed to believe that Christianity is actually real.

            Christianity, and all religion for that matter, is man-made nonsense. You believe in a fairy tale enough to denounce someone because they are Gay? Being Gay is an imbalance of hormones in the brain. As a result, there are men who are much more effeminate and homosexual, and women who are more masculine and homosexual, but it doesn’t stop there. Being Gay is not black and white and it is certainly not a choice. We all have electro-chemicals rushing around in our brains. Invariably, there will be major differences between the 7 billion people present on the planet at any given time.

            It is all chemicals in the brain. The sooner you learn science and reality and stop buying into the nonsense religion you have been indoctrinated into believing, the better and more logical you life will be.

          • disqus_RRrWsgZNb3

            Amen Regan! :)

          • MissDiane47

            “Being gay is an imbalance of hormones in the brain.”

            Regan … other mental illnesses are caused by the same thing – a chemical/hormone imbalance in the brain. So, in essence, you just admitted that homosexuality IS a mental illness. So, if what you’re saying is true, why aren’t homosexuals treated with medication like people with other forms of mental illnesses … Hmmmm??

            I dare you to try and backtrack your statement. As Michelle Malkin says, the internet is forever.

          • disqus_RRrWsgZNb3

            it makes me sick…people quoting a book of fiction. It makes you and everything you say look pretty damn stupid.

          • Joe Ruisi

            What could be more stupid than someone who has dismissed as “fiction”, a book whose original script is still intact word – for – word after over 5,000 years. If you actually knew what is written in that book, and by whom, you would marvel how it perfectly mirrors the history books and how much proof has been established of its efficacy.

          • oakpkdude1

            So now the oldest book is the truest book? Actually back then most people wrote their own books. A century after Jesus died men decided which ones to put in the new testament and which ones to discard. It has many good lessons and some nonsense but if homosexuality was so horrible many Jesus would have mentioned it don’t you think.

          • Indynana

            Thank you for this . The amazing thing is – the people that dismiss the Bible as fiction have Never studied any of it. If they had they could not call it Fiction. In the book of Isaiah written thousands of years ago there is a prophecy that tells the EXACT words that would be spoken. and lo and behold those words WERE indeed spoken at the rebuilding ceremony at ground zero! THE same words foretold by Isaiah 9: 10! Read ” The Harbinger” by Jonathan Cahn! Some are willfully blind so they can continue in sin!

          • jimmyjimmy

            only liars and charlatans claim to know what god wants. WHich one are you.

          • oakpkdude1

            So gay people are O.K. with you as long as they never have sex? Sounds rather unfair.

          • alone

            I wish all parents were like you. It is such a scary, hard, cold lonely place when you entire family from the Methodists to the Liberals want nothing to do with you because of your lifestyle. I believe that no human is meant to be alone. All people deserve and need love and acceptance.

          • TocksNedlog

            You’re big on the thought-crimes, are ya?

          • Jeff Coil

            That is about the most dangerous thing I have yet seen on this thread. How about telling a child he’s nothing but a sack of biological goo with no inherent value? Would that be better? What an idiot.

          • rascalofearth

            depends on what culture you live in.

          • [email protected]

            I find this mentality odd. A man cannot restrain himself, nor choose, not to stick his genitals up the rear of another man?

          • Beau Hammonds

            I have a better question: is doing what you just described something you have been secretly wanting to do by put choose not to?
            COULD you do it? Would your “stick” work? If you say “no” to any of there ions questions, then you just answered why being gay is not a choice….

          • rascalofearth

            I find your obsession with sex is disturbing.

          • TWBDB

            Foo, do you actually equate your own sexual orientation with how often and what you penetrate or allow to be penetrated? That’s what you’re saying. If that’s true, you really need to spend some time comparing the moments you spend in coitus to the lifetime you should spend loving and supporting your spouse. When are people going to realize that being gay or straight has way more to do with the emotional bond at the core of interpersonal relationships rather than sex alone?

          • AWomaninTX

            Thank you.

          • TocksNedlog

            It’s the ONE area where humans DON’T have free will; right?

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=604783625 Kat Katablog

          I’ll have to disagree with the reply. You can say things millions of times but every free individual makes choices. What needs to be driven home to a child is that there is nothing they can do or say that will stop your love regardless of your approval or disapproval of a behavior.

          • oakpkdude1

            Being gay is not now and never has been a choice. Who in their right mind would want to put up with all this hate. You are right however that you can say whatever you want as many times as you want to someone but that will NEVER decide whether they are gay or straight. It may however make them stay in the closet or just kill themselves it they can’t take it anymore. If you love your children don’t ever speak ill of homosexuals because they may move far away from you when they grow up to hide it from you or even worse they may kill themselves because they loved you so much that they knew that you would never accept them.

        • xX_JMO_Xx

          So it is tempting for you to be a man and want to sleep with another man every day. After all if it is just a choice, it must be a challenge for you to not sleep with another man. So if it is just a choice, then you must be able to see yourself with another man. Does it make you hard when you look at another man? Come on, if it is a choice, then you must have to think about it?

        • Regan Ashby

          What the? Are you seriously saying being Gay is a sin? Get your nonsense Christian mythology out of here.

        • oakpkdude1

          I’m juts shocked that in this day and age there are still so many ignorant people around. Gay people have always and will always exist and they are not evil. The bible was written by man and therefore is not perfect. There are way too many people out there who use the bible to try to portray themselves as being wonderful while at the same time bash their neighbors over the head with it. Disgusting.

      • Richard Sturms

        Well that just sounds as moralphobic and bigioted as what those evil ones did! You can love people but totally disagree,and be against the life they lead! That does NOT mean that someone is a homophobe. It’s called an opinion,and in this country, it’s called the 1st amendment,freedom of religious liberty and expression.

        • RTB

          Nonsense. If you insist that gay people must lead loveless lives devoid of the kind of deep loving relationships that virtually all people need, then you are a bigot because what you’re “disapproving” of is not some abstract lifestyle. It’s the right of gays to have the same happiness that you claim for yourself. You can no more lovingly disapprove of equal rights for gays than you can lovingly lock someone away and deprive them of human companionship. You can’t insist on harming someone and claim that doing it in a loving manner (whatever that means) somehow removes the harm or makes you less guilty of inflicting that harm. Religiously inspired hate is still hate and that’s what you’re advocating. Hatred and cruelty with a loving smile. Sell it somewhere else.

          And yes, you have freedom under our constitution to express hateful views. And I have that same freedom to call them what they are – bigotry and primitive superstitious garbage.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=604783625 Kat Katablog

            *I* don’t insist anything on anyone else’s life. However, God does insist on obedience. Behaviors are between God and the person with the behavior – certainly not between me and the person.

          • RTB

            And what if there is no god and you just believe in a magic man in the sky because you can’t handle not know what (if anything) happens after you die. Then, what? What if morality actually is measured by how you treat your fellow human beings? Then your disapproval begins to look more like what it is – superstitiously inspired bigotry.

          • TocksNedlog

            “Actually measured” by whom?

          • Bob Capps

            I know that you intended this post as a slam at Christians, but you unwittingly stated the Golden Rule, love your neighbor as yourself. It is written in that book that you mock, the Bible.

          • Southern fried

            obviously you are not a religious person so what do you care what religious people think

        • http://twitter.com/kommonKat KAT

          do you realize people shunned inter racial couples using your argument. get it over it all ready

        • jellybutter

          When you start holding up signs at the courthouse asking the government to not issue marriage licenses to heterosexual couples who were already married and divorced and seeking to get remarried, then you can say that you are not motivated by bigotry. Your focus on “this sin” that you find in your bible, and not that “other sin” also clearly delineated in your bible, shows your motivation.

          • JINNASH

            No. Other sin are called sins. This one invloves arrogant psuedo-intellectual snobs trying to “reclassify” it.

        • AWomaninTX

          http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homophobia

          homophobia

          ho·mo·pho·bia noun ˌhō-mə-ˈfō-bē-ə

          Definition of HOMOPHOBIA
          : irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals

          Like it or not, that is what it is. And if you’re bothered by that fact, that may be telling you something.

          • Jeff Coil

            Homophobia is a made-up word designed to slander those who disagree with the gay lifestyle. “Phobia” means “fear”, it has NOTHING to do with discrimination. It is the most vile word in the leftist dictionary, and if you really wanted to have a serious debate on “gay rights”, then you need to drop it. Otherwise you are no different than those idiots who walk around with “god hates fags” signs.

          • http://twitter.com/bretzysdude bretzysdude

            Yeah, it’s telling me you’re a dipsh!t, is what it’s telling me.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=604783625 Kat Katablog

        I can love a gay person with all my heart and soul and still disapprove of the way they choose to live their life. Just like you love your child but disapprove of his/her disobedience and/or other choices they make. Love the sinner, hate the sin.

        The fact that a child chooses to believe that because you hate their sin and disapprove of a behavior, that you don’t love them – it only tells me the child needs to grow up and understand love. Love doesn’t stop because of choices or behavior. Love makes a distinction between a person and a person’s behaviors. Love knows no bounds and be won or lost and certainly is not for sale based on principles.

        • xX_JMO_Xx

          So if sexuality is a choice, then it must be tempting to choose to sleep with another woman, right. I am guessing by your name that you are a woman. Because if it is a choice, then you must at some point imagine what it is like to feel and touch another naked woman.

          If you can never see yourself with another woman, then it is not a choice for you, and if it isn’t a choice for you, than it is not a choice for someone who is gay. If God in his infinite wisdom makes a person sinful in his nature, than God is responsible for making that person sinful, and that would run contrary to the Bible, since God does not make people inherently sinful. So either it isn’t sinful for someone to behave according to their nature, or God has one cruel sense of humor.

          • http://twitter.com/chuckwooten chuckwooten

            Please, please…stop this nonsense. xX, you have absolutely zero idea of what you so authoritatively speak. It’s clear you are a fan of your own, pontificating voice, but you have removed all doubt you are an uninformed, God-hating bigot. You have unsuccessfully attempted to “prove” your position and in the process shown yourself to be of absolutely no effect and simply ignorant. A good option for you is to leave this “debate” alone and resist the temptation to interject your poison and allow the Warren family to properly grieve this tragedy.

          • jellybutter

            Wow – you take the opportunity to personally attack someone for expressing the truths that they see in the face of hatred, and then admonish them to leave the family to grieve. So you can gay bash all you want today, but those that advocate for gays have to keep quiet? If Matthew was gay (I have no idea) he would be very upset to learn that his death created a national gay bashing day where no one was allowed to correct misinformation or interject advocacy for gays. But even so, Matthew’s status is irrelevant because he was described as a kind and caring man – thus he would not want his death to cause gay bashing if that is true.

          • RTB

            God-hating? Really? What a silly claim. XX’s reasoning is sound.

            If being gay is innate (which most honest people now acknowledge) and entering into gay relationships is sinful as so many bible thumpers claim, then god must be cruel and arbitrary because he has created gays and given them only two bad options: live lonely lives never experiencing full, loving, romantic relationships or enter into such relationships knowing that they are sinful in god’s eyes.

            Why would a just god create people just to make them choose between happiness and virtue when no other people are forced into such a choice? You can understand why so many gay kids raised in religious households kill themselves when fed a steady diet of such poisonous ideas.

            The truth is that there is NOTHING sinful about being gay or having loving gay relationships. Anyone claiming otherwise is simply a liar and a bigot.

          • MissDiane47

            JMO – That is THE DUMBEST, straw-man argument I’ve ever heard in my life!!! Homosexuality IS a choice, and no matter how much you keep spreading the non-choice lies, it will never be true as far as God is concerned.

            “If you can never see yourself with another woman, then it is not a choice for you, and if it isn’t a choice for you, than it is not a choice for someone who is gay.”

        • RTB

          Maybe your determination to label loving gay relationships as sinful illustrates that your claim of love is hollow and self serving. Maybe you should try to stretch your understanding a bit and consider that it is not sinful for gays to love each other. When you get there, you’ll actually be a moral person.

        • jellybutter

          Children grow up hearing their parents speak against gay people, and then, when their own child comes out to them, all those comments you made before you veiled your hatred are piled on top of your now carefully worded empty assurance that you “love” them but hate who they are and how they were born. Don’t fool yourself – you are not fooling your child. They learn to live with the conditional love, and your straight children know that your love for them is conditional and that they were just “lucky.” You can “not accept” them all you want, but don’t ever try to disown the reality of the damage that you do to your own child by adhering to such beliefs at their expense. There are lots of things in the bible that no longer govern our beliefs, and different sects interpret the bible in different ways, but you go ahead and hang onto this one for dear life? c’mon.

      • foxnationasshoIes

        You should be ashamed.

        • $4485292

          i am ashamed.

    • https://twitter.com/ncadler Neal Adler

      Well said, well said indeed.

    • http://twitter.com/DanChesley1 Dan Chesley

      I agree these sick creeps should crawl back under their rock. They are human slime.

    • redrabbit

      Then Rick himself never should have done it to others who were suffering, as he did many, many times. I feel sorry for the gay kids who have killed themselves due to the ongoing bullying of Rick Warren and his legion of followers. Maybe now he’ll finally learn something.

      • http://twitter.com/kommonKat KAT

        EXACTLY THEY SURE LIKE BEING THE BULLIES! But show them a mirror and they go into an indignant rage LOLOL

        “I like your Christ but NOT your Christians.” Ghandi

      • Guest

        I’m sorry but what precisely did Rick Warren say that constitutes bullying of gay people? The man is a Christian, he believes the Bible and he upholds the Bible’s teaching and yet he has gone on record saying he does not hate gay people and that he welcomes them in his church and he has given millions to HIV/AIDS treatment efforts. Doesn’t sound like a bully to me.

        I agree that there are those out there who go the wrong way about expressing Christian teachings such as those but what I disagree with is labelling any any every Christian who upholds the Bible as a bully.

    • Sons Thunder

      It’s revolting behavior.

      This sentiment is not universal among those who disagree with Warren’s politics.
      My political beliefs are vastly different from Rick Warren’s. I haven’t ever lost anyone terribly close to me to suicide. Yet, thinking of the pastor and his family brings tears to my eyes.

      I am disgusted by those who delight in another’s loss and misery.

      • Andrew Watts

        Well said, Sons Thunder. We can agree to disagree peacefully, find joy in each others triumphs and mourn each others losses, despite being on opposite sides of the issue.

      • http://twitter.com/kommonKat KAT

        no one is enjoying this I feel for that child and that family but not to point out reality, this so called preacher has harmed MILLIONS with his words … did you speak up for them ?

        • Sons Thunder

          I think you are being dishonest to say “no one is enjoying this.”

          Regardless – it is possible to feel sympathy or empathy for another human while disgreeing with their politics.

          Furthermore, Rich Warren was invited to give the inaugural prayer in 2013. Oprah Winfrey has had him on her show. While you have yet to prove Warren’s words have caused significant damage to others, last I checked, Obama and Oprah have a wider audience than me. Have you condemned them? And, if you have, what good has it done?

          Liberals/progressives/Democrats/Left-Leaning Independents are a minority here. I’m a left-leaning independent and I post here from time to time. Considering that this thread was about the boorish behavior on ‘my side,’ I think it was appropriate for me to weigh in here.

          Maybe today isn’t the day to place the historically poor treatment of GLBTQ people entirely on Rick Warren’s shoulders.

          • RTB

            No, but maybe it is time to note the poor treatment that he was meted out to gays and lesbians since it appears to have resulted in the death of his own son.

          • jellybutter

            Yeah, Matthew’s death created a “gay bash for free without any chance of dissent from those who feel differently” day. Why don’t you just go ahead and stamp on the graves of dead gay youth and get it over with. There is so much gay bashing – do you really expect folks that advocate for LGBT people to be silent?

      • jellybutter

        There is no joy in the death of a gay child or man. Any gay child or man. But when any child dies, and there is someone to blame, our society takes after them Nancy Grace style. Matthew is mourned as a victim – and those taking shots at the dad are speculating – and that is uncalled for – but their hearts are with Matthew and the many gay youth who are vastly more likely to commit suicide due to the loathing they experience at the hands of anti-gay rhetoric. If you see that as delight – then think of the people that go after Casey Anthony – if you are not equally disgusted by their words, ask yourself why. Parents who disown or talk against their gay children ARE responsible for the suicides of their children because self loathing takes hold of their souls. No child should experience self loathing for the way they were born.

    • http://twitter.com/kommonKat KAT

      well sir, as an early volunteer in the AIDS crisis I had a young man die in my arms because the fire service is the ultra conservative religious southern county wouldn’t answer the call. I speak up always.
      I doubt the family is spending their time reading comments. And millions find Rick quite odious.
      That’s what happens when you judge others.

      • Guest

        That is terrible. And I wouldn’t dispute that. That sort of behaviour is evil. However the Twitter users who take the time to add heap insults upon a man who has just lost his son is wrong, especially when the tragedy is fresh and the circumstances are unknown beyond the fact the man had depression. That was my point, pure and simple.

        What people’s opinions of Rick Warren are neither here nor there. Although people are spouting forth a lot of misinformation about him like he supported an anti-gay law in Uganda. He actually condemned it repeatedly all the while giving millions to HIV/AIDS treatment. Now people can still dislike him for things he has said but he ought not to be attacked for something he didn’t say.

    • GaryTheBrave

      RTB, if death to you means you no longer exist, then why do animals as well as humans try to flee from it? Why do we fear death? We all die. Why not just go ahead and lead a reckless and careless life so as to hasten the process? Why don’t you go first?

      • RTB

        Gary – All living things avoid death and try to live. Even viruses. Evolutionary biologists will tell you that it is the evolutionary goal of passing on genes that leads animals (people included) to pursue life and also to procreate.

        But you’ve basically made my argument for me. All creatures avoid death. That humans do as well makes us more, rather than less, like animals. Since we have an awareness of the certainty of death and many of us can’t accept it, we have created a way to deny its finality. It’s called religion. Think about it: EVERY religion promises a way to avoid the finality of death, if only you believe in its rules. Every single one. That suggests that all religions play the same psychological role for people. It also suggests that they exist primarily to provide comfort to the mind. That argues against the literal truth of any of them.

        As for why I don’t live recklessly without regard for death, I would argue that a great many religious people do exactly that. As for myself, I want to live to see my kids have kids. And plus I love being alive so I can argue with folks like you! If I actually believed that heaven awaited, maybe I would live without regard for death. But since I believe this is the only time I’ll have, I’m looking to cherish it and have it last as long as possible.

    • RTB

      Nonsense. This man has sought the public spotlight. He has used his notoriety to spread his particular religious view far and wide and in doing so, has caused great harm to gays and lesbians. It is perfectly appropriate to use the tragic death of his son to reflect on the broader question of whether his homophobic teachings may have contributed to that death. It’s not as if he is participating in these debates or is on this thread. Hopefully, he’s doing some soul searching and asking himself if, just maybe, his efforts to teach people to “hate the sin” of being gay was wrong and may have contributed o the horrible life his son apparently led.

      • Sheerie Knoll

        Do you KNOW this man was gay? Until you KNOW he was gay, and the REASON he killed himself was because of his fathers beliefs, then it is highly INAPPROPRIATE…… ” to use the tragic death of his son to reflect on the broader question of whether his homophobic teachings may have contributed to that death”. Until then, if you cannot express sympathy to the family, maybe keeping quiet would be more appropriate. Jumping to conclusions does nothing for your argument. IMHO

    • http://profiles.google.com/mitcheisenstein Mitchel Eisenstein

      well it makes you think, dad is a great preacher, world famous, and yet his son, who battles “life long mental illness”, is unable to be helped? give me a break. where the hell was dad? maybe he should have spent a little time with his son. let him just be, tell him he is okay the way he is. rick warren was a very judgmental man. and however you want to hold it, god created his son committing suicide for Rick Warren to think about. And Rick needs to think long and hard!!!!!!!!!! Cause I just dont buy the party line that this man had lifelong mental illness.

      • Guest

        That’s just ignorance. You don’t know the relationship he had with his son and you don’t know what circumstances there were surrounding this tragedy.

      • http://www.facebook.com/luke.givens.963 Luke Givens

        Sorry, I would not agree with a word that comes out of Rick Warren’s mouth, but your comment is about as tacky as those who were using the suicide of Dr. Spock’s grandson to somehow criticize his books/methods on parenting.

    • IAMSuperPatriot

      Really? I hear people in pain, angry at being rejected for who they are, speaking out on Matthew’s behalf.

      • Guest

        Do you really? I see people jumping to conclusions, jumping at the bit to attack someone whose views they disagree with and generally just being internet trolls.

        • trixiewoobeans

          Oh SNAP!

    • oakpkdude1

      I can’t stand when people say things like “don’t agree with” when speaking about gay people. It’s as ignorant as saying I don’t agree with left handed people. I feel horrible for the Warren family but this is just another example of how bigotry is what is evil and harmful, not two people of the same sex loving each other.

      • Guest

        Can I put this to you as a suggestion? I’m not looking to be confrontational. When someone says something along those lines it’s usually because they want to balance tolerance with a religious conviction that involves a concept of sexual morality. What they aim to do is say, “Look we don’t hate anyone or wish to mistreat anyone, but we do believe this about [insert moral practice].” The reason I put this out there is because I believe the best way to put aside hostility in conflicting points of view is to try to understand where the other person is coming from, instead of labelling the person who holds that religious view as either ignorant or bigoted.

        My comments posted earlier were a heat of the moment thing, it was an emotional response. Personally though I still feel it is a below belt move for Twitter users to verbally attack a grieving man.

    • Rhonda

      You are so right!! I don’t understand why people are so ready to attack someone else’s life. People need to check themselves before they go out bashing others. And remember what Jesus said about taking the plank out of your eye before you try to take the speck out of someone else’s. I totally agree with you Guest!!

    • lumpy gravy

      rick warren is a bigoted pile of s***. who cares if he is grieving. i for one don’t. reap what you sow.

  • V the K

    Once again, 99% of liberals making the rest of them look bad.

    • NY Republican

      well it’s not their fault the 1% probably just don’t have the guts to say it

    • nc

      LOL! But true.

  • Guest

    Sorry but your comment is equally as vile as any of the Twitter comments listed above.

    • AaronHarrisinAlaska

      Hardly.

      • Guest

        With all due respect insinuating that it is the right decision for someone to commit suicide is wrong no matter what the circumstances, no ifs no buts. That is just as bad as pouring out hatred against the man’s father while he is grieving. I’m pretty sure Rick Warren would find both lines of though equally as insulting to the memory of his son.

        • mike_in_kosovo

          Agreed.

  • $30423294

    If I were a Buddhist, I would ask the democrat party to stop slandering it by invoking their Buddhist principle of karma as an injunction to rejoice over pain and death. I believe the Buddhist philosophy is decisively against reveling in pain and death.

    The democrat party is now trying to make it seem as though Buddhism is a blood cult that relishes death.

    I don’t think it is.

    Why does the democrat party slander Buddhism?

  • John

    How sad that anyone would bring social politics, hatred and intolerance into the death of anyone. Especially when it is a suicide – no matter the reason.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1626768785 Deb Lytle V

    And all these people with the vicious comments about Pastor Warren are just as bad as they accuse him of being… if not worse! Pathetic society we live in, isn’t it! May the family rest in peace with this.

  • http://randomanglican.tumblr.com randomanglican

    Wow. Just incredible. Pray for the Warren family.

    • GaryTheBrave

      To RTB, the “homosexual” traits you claim are found in animals has been proven NOT to be sexual, but to be dominant. An alpha male may mount a competitor when that competitor refuses to submit to the Alpha’s dominance. This typically occurs within the group. It is different from the Alpha fighting an interloper.

      • RTB

        Gary – I’m not talking about dominance behavior. I’m talking same gender bonds. Besides, it’s silly to claim that being gay is against nature when gays have existed in every human society. Were it not so, why did those idiots try to condemn gays in the bible? Of course, they also condemned eating shellfish, prescribed death for all manner of casual occurrences and condoned slavery, so we have to take much of what is found in the bible with a grain of salt. Or disregard it entirely.

  • jcgraham

    The loss of a child is heartbreaking, regardless of the reason, and FYI, none of us know what was going on in that boy’s heart and mind. Good grief! A little compassion, please!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gail-Wakefield/100001742101587 Gail Wakefield

    so sorry for your loss…my heart goes out to the warren family

  • Otter2

    Are you saying that all homosexuals should kill themselves? If so, you’re no different than the tweeters here.

    Prayers for the Warren family.

  • j w

    I remember when My Older Brother Crashed Gramma’s Car and has spent a lifetime in and out of Hospitals. I remember when My Father told Me my Oldest Brother Killed Himself …… Some People Should STFU ……. Inhuman Bastards. I pray the Warren FAMILY knows that there are Humans That Have Hearts ….. May God’s Hands Catch The Warren Family ….. and Heal the Broken Hearts

    • doughpro

      So sorry for your loss…you are an inspiration to others.

    • Kepha Hor

      I share your feelings.

  • trixiewoobeans

    Ahhh, here come the vultures, ready to pounce and feast on a grieving family’s tragedy! The glee and blame they’re shovelling so amply displays their intolerance and hearts of stone. They’re carrion.

    • RTB

      No one is gleeful over the tragic death of this young man. But it is a moment to stop and reflect on the link between religious intolerance and the very high suicide rate among young gays. Maybe it’s time for the religious minded to reconsider their condemnation of gays. This is the result.

      • trixiewoobeans

        NOBODY knows if he was gay…this has been pure speculation fueled by the bashers! Instead of focusing on the killer diseases, severe depression and mental illness, they’re ASSUMING he was gay and that’s the only reason this could have happened! And quite frankly, there will be dancing in the streets for them if it plays out that way, but I digress. When somebody dies of cancer, do you say, “Oh, he/she was gay, that’s why they died?” Ridiculous, isn’t it? Depression can be a lethal illness, so let’s not pigeonhole suicides.

        • $45875941

          They, knowing about the young man, are desperately hoping that they now have a martyr to further their agenda. May God bless and comfort the Warren family.

      • Dean Gagne

        get the facts before posting; no proof or evidence says that he was gay.

        • trixiewoobeans

          You forget, FACTS are something the Left eschews… clearly seen here.

      • MissDiane47

        All of a sudden, everyone on the left – including YOU RTB – are associating suicide with homosexuality and anti-homosexual bigotry. And you’ve bought into the same lie that it is homosexuals with the highest suicide rate. That’s a load of bull!!! The statistics have been cooked on purpose to make them appear relevant to create a false hype.

        FYI – I had a dear friend who completed her suicide many years ago because of severe depression. She was NOT gay! As a matter of fact, she had a loving boyfriend who wanted to marry her!

        • RTB

          Lady – This is not all of a sudden. The incidence of suicide among gay youth has been documented for decades. Gay teens are between 3 and 5 times more likely to commit suicide than straight teens. Fully 33% of completed suicides in this country are believed to be by gays – though gays make up only 3 – 4% of the population. Gays living in extremely conservative communities are far more likely to commit suicide than gays in more tolerant communities. All documented in study after study. You can’t change these facts Lady, though you can choose to deny them.

          Obviously every suicide is not a gay person, so the death of your friend who probably wasn’t gay doesn’t alter the truth of what I’ve said.

          • MissDiane47

            RTB, it has been said that the more one keeps lying to themselves and others, the more it will become false truths. Keep lying to yourself about the alleged statistics on gay suicides. I refuse to buy into it.

    • http://kissingryan.com/ ARealHousewifeInOC

      Rick Warren is the ultimate vulture having preyed and spit out the hearts of greiving parents of homosexual children that also took their own life.

  • Clayton Grant

    Calling out people for politicising a tragedy whilst politicising the event yourself. You can’t even see your own bigotry.

  • gladys whipple hurtis

    The bad news (apart from the fact that a young man surrendered to his suicidal thoughts), is a tragedy like this brings out the worst in the worst of people. The Good News is the Best of the Best will be praying for them, without ceasing. And they will be Blessed in spite of their hateful ways.

  • descolada9

    Sadly, we all knew that this was coming :(

  • Vicki

    My thoughts and prayers go out to him and his wife., Please keep your disrespectful comments to yourself and have some common decency!

  • http://www.robjonesforpresident.com/ Rob Jones

    The death of one’s child is not something you snark about for political points. Must be sad to have such a miserable disposition that this doesn’t even stand out as being obscenely wrong.

    • $4485292

      I don’t think it is about politics. I believe it is about disgust of the Hatred expressed by Christians. There was a man, Marcus Aurelius, who loved everyone, including his enemies. I wish Christians would follow this man’s principles and promote love.

      • trixiewoobeans

        Define “hatred”.

        • $4485292

          Define “define.”

          • trixiewoobeans

            Ahh, a game player. No thanks, time is too valuable to waste.

          • Richard Sturms

            BIGOT

      • http://www.robjonesforpresident.com/ Rob Jones

        Defending people that make fun of a guy whose child died is your idea of expressing love, eh? Wow, if somebody pushed your dinner plate six inches to the left you’d starve to death.

        • $4485292

          no, you’re getting me wrong. I don’t express love. And I don’t think these people attacking this guy do either. I’m a total hater, honestly. i just wish Christians would do as Marcus Aurelius would do, and love Gays.

          All I’m saying is that this isn’t really about politics, more than it is about disgust with this man. Accepting gays really isn’t about politics, just ask Republicans who support Gay Marriage, which is not a small tiny fraction, but a pretty large one.

          A group that is about love should really accept Gays, it just seems kind of hypocritical to not accept Gays. MY group, is a cult of less than 1,000 members: “Love” is not on our agenda at the moment. We are full of haters, unfortunately.

          • http://www.robjonesforpresident.com/ Rob Jones

            So you “wish Christians would do as Marcus Aurelius would do, and love Gays”… and being a “hater” is how you would accomplish this? Interesting, if only due to the absolute lack of logic or understanding of cause and effect..

          • $4485292

            well, i’m not a logical person by any means. I believe that the world was created less than 10,000 years ago. I also believe that God actually didn’t create Gays and never had the power to create Gays. I know that doesn’t sound very logical, but I go by faith, not logic. Faith to me is POWERFUL. much more powerful than logic.

    • RTB

      It’s wrong to allow hatred to go unchallenged until it drives someone to suicide and then insist that discussing the hatred is improper because someone just died. We don’t want anyone to be driven to suicide because of homophobic intolerance. Don’t you understand that?

      • Christopher Richey

        I am going to jump in here…all of you gay-rights guys ought to get this point…SUICIDE IS A CHOICE…no one can make you do it…I chose to live instead of die…just as I chose to put the gun in my mouth in the first place…suicide is about feeling powerless…seeking blame is the result of failing to take responsibility…if anti-gay beliefs can drive a person to suicide…then all of them would have killed themselves by now.

      • http://www.robjonesforpresident.com/ Rob Jones

        RTB – Do you get any exercise aside from jumping to conclusions? Turn the computer off and go out into the sunshine, junior. You’re lost in the liberal fog that comes from spending too much time blathering at a keyboard.

  • http://twitter.com/BrianPHovland Brian H (wackobird)

    None of this is surprising.Nothing about these “people” is anything except vile and evil. To act out this kind of hate when someone has experienced such a grievous loss is just
    beyond my ability to understand. I guess when you worship self, and the planet………

    • Joy

      Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! ~ Isaiah 5:20

  • Smokey Behr

    I knew that it wouldn’t take long before the Twidiots started spewing their anti-straight, anti-religion hate.

  • laurie Ketelsen

    Such hatred from the supposedly compassionate party.Shame on you.Phony outrage and sad statement.

  • Scott M Sykes

    As long as he continues to follow Christislam and compromises God’s Values it seems that the sins of the father were visited upon the son. Hate the sin not the sinner. Love your God and your neighbor. Christ is the truth, the way and the life. Period. End of story. To compromise those principles begs for God’s wrath upon your life, especially if you are a leader!

  • Eddie

    You folks are missing the point. If you will read the last chapter of the Book of Revelation you will see that if anyone takes away or adds to the Bible will suffer the consequences of all the plagues in the Bible. rick warren has conspired to co-mingle Christianity with islime calling it chrislam. That is worse than spitting in God’s face to do such a blasphemous thing. What rick warren has done in reality is to attempt to co-mingle light and dark. If he doesn’t repent I would suggest that people close to him distance themselves because the gates of hell are about to be opened on this man. Just because you see someone do something and it appears that they are getting away with it don’t be fooled. Restitution WILL be repaid, you can depend on it ! If not in this life then the one to come !

  • http://twitter.com/Chris_1791 @chris_1791

    Would everyone on twitter just report this animals for spam to get thier accounts deactivated! And for the 1st admendment people – it’s my 1st admendment to ask you to do this.

  • Hal Fast

    Just goes to show you evil never rests.

  • Brad Lobdell

    It never ceases to amaze me how the pro-gay side think they are so tolerant and yet they spout this vile nonsense if you are against gay marriage. So tolerant.

    • Joy

      Right? They don’t tolerate intolerance…Can you say OXYMORON?…Maybe just MORON!

    • http://www.facebook.com/sherry.w.chamberlain Sherry Whitmer- Chamberlain

      Agree…

  • Byron Shutt

    Ahhhhh the left. What else is there to say. Pathetic.

  • Robin

    I can’t believe you people, rather you all agree with Rick Warren or not it’s almost as if you’re happy that his son killed himself. You all are SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can’t even imagine the pain that his parents and brother and sister are going through right now. Non of you know what was going on with this family, all we know is that sadly a young man took his own life because of mental illness, and unless any of you have dealt with a family member sick with this horrible ailment then you don’t know what you are talking about. My brother is schizophrenic , it’s no one’s fault not my Mother’s or Father’s and he’s NOT gay, but I worry about him doing something horrible like this every day. You all are DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Instead of bashing this poor family you all might show a little compassion, and if that’s not possible then keep your nasty thoughts to yourselves.

  • Timothy-Allen Albertson

    i suppose one should defer to homosexuals when they claim something is hateful as they are the most hateful group in our body politic

  • jmz

    remember kids, twitchy allows you to respond. its time to confront these libturds on their ignorance. we cannot keep letting everything slide or it will never get better.

  • John W. Kerr

    Luke 6:45
    The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth what is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth what is evil; for his mouth speaks from that which fills his heart.

    • Richard Sturms

      That would describe jrs to a t

  • Lisa Thompson

    You vile, pathetic people (and I’m being charitable by addressing you as such) who blame Rick Warren for his son’s death are society’s joke. MENTAL ILLNESS isn’t about religious views or being anti-gay. It’s MENTAL ILLNESS! Think about that for a minute. Why do you assume he was gay anyway?? Furthermore, first and foremost, a father lost his son. Your cruel remarks make you the 100 times worse than you believe Rick Warren to be. And just so you know…just b/c someone (like me) who does NOT approve of gay relationships, does not mean I’m intolerant, homophobic or anything else. It means that it’s a religious conviction that I can express. I’m entitled to that by the first amendment. So is Rick Warren. Doesn’t mean he’s hateful.

    • $4485292

      but let’s just say you’re not intolerant, you just don’t “APPROVE.” Then if you have a gay son that is hearing this everyday, you’re gay son will HATE himself, and he will pretend that he is not gay for his entire life, lying to himself everyday, and knowing that this is not who he truly is, he is a fake, a fraud, a liar, and a sinner. Knowing that if he ever told his father the truth, knowing that if his father ever found out, his father would be ASHAMED and HUMILIATED. and would obviously HATE you forever. You will go to hell for 500 trillion years. Because 500 trillion years is just a fraction of eternity, and God would never choose to put a young boy in Hell for all eternity just for being gay, right? But wait, that is what your father believes. That you will go to Hell for all eternity, not just that small portion of eternity which is 500 trillion years, but for ALL of eternity, which is forever, just because God created you that way.

      Give me a thumbs down if you believe that God will put a gay child in Hell for All eternity.

      • MissDiane47

        Who told you that your son would hate himself because you don’t “approve” of his homosexuality and that God made him that way? If you truly believe these lies, then you make Him out to be a liar, for that is not what the Holy Scriptures teach. God’s word stands forever, no matter what progressives are trying to do in this life

        • $4485292

          God told me that Holy Scriptures were written by, and translated by human beings. That God did not write them. That they are the ideas and stories of men, not God.

          • MissDiane47

            Oh REALLY??? [face-palm] When, pray-tell, did God tell you this; over lunch on the day you reached your “enlightenment” over your son? And what is the name of “your” God who said this to you?

          • trixiewoobeans

            Don’t bother with jrs…just an exploitative troll.

          • MissDiane47

            trixiewoobeans – Very much so! Some people are either blindly stupid, or it comes naturally to them. Sad!

          • $4485292

            his name is YAHWEH. he is the same God who told you that he wrote the Bible, and that homosexuality is a sin. He also told me he would put a child in Hell for all eternity just for having been born. I agreed that the punishment was excellent and diabolical.

          • Richard Sturms

            Say the moralphobic bigot. Is that your opinion of the quran? if not,you’re a bigot

          • RTB

            There is nothing moral about holding to a particular religion. Morals are about how you treat your fellow human beings. All of us. Not just those who share your religious superstitions.

          • http://brotherclarksblog.blogspot.com/ Clark E. Dunlap

            your god lied

          • Dean Gagne

            I guess the wrong God told you a lie

          • Guest

            WRONG Every word, jot and tittle is GOD breathed,

        • Jest.de-fax

          Unless you’re able to read Aramaic and ancient Greek, you don’t know what the scriptures actually said. You simply think you do. No doubt you’re referencing the word “abomination” – which means something entirely different in English. That word is used 32 times in the scripture to ban everything from red dresses to eating shell fish.

      • Richard Sturms

        Once again you demonstrate that you are just as much a bigot as those who call Christians a phobe,but turn a blind eye to their own kind murdered every day by muslims. Why the silence?

      • Christopher Moser

        God won’t put a boy or girl in hell for being gay; he will put someone there because they choose not to accept Jesus as their Saviour. If someone accepts Jesus then they will try not to choose lifestyles that God is against.

        • RTB

          There is no hell. There is no heaven. It’s just a myth made up for the weak minded who can’t accept the finality of death.

          Let me help you out: do you ever lie awake at night terrified thinking about the fact that you didn’t exist before you were born? No. Then why should the idea of not existing after death terrify you? It shouldn’t. Live your life and be thankful for it. Treat other people as you wish to be treated – with love and kindness. Leave the fantasies about hell and damnation to a more primitive time when we didn’t know any better.

        • $4485292

          i guess you’re right. as long as you “Try” not to sin you’ll go to heaven. You are right. I now see your reasoning. If Hitler accepted Christ, he’s in heaven now having drinks with Jesus and telling jokes. But Gandhi is definitely in Hell. And a True God would be happy with this because Rules are Rules and God LOVES Rules and bureaucracy. Also, I doubt that God could ever change his own rules, because he doesn’t have that kind of power. God actually told Gandhi: “How dare you not believe in this book that was written 2,000 years ago! something you could never witness! You are using reasoning with the brain that I gave you, instead of your emotions and faith! To hell for all eternity for having lived on this planet for several decades!”

          I agree that God did not create Homosexuality, something EQUALLY powerful as God, such as God2 created homosexuality.

      • Indynana

        WHY is a CHILD having sex???? At the age of adulthood a person should refrain from having sex outside marriage. God made man and woman to function together to create a family – God is VERY clear about HIS views on this.. try to justify it all you want – it is a SIN!

        • RTB

          Oh put a sock in it already.

        • $4485292

          God made man and woman to function together to create a family. But God also made homosexuality for man and man to unite in loving relationships. Unless God made a mistake. It’s possible that God could make huge mistakes like that, I guess. But only a few big mistakes.

          • Indynana

            EVERYTHING that God has created the Devil has fouled with SIN! EVERYTHING!

          • $4485292

            nah, the devil can’t do that. God has like 3 times more power than the Devil.

    • RTB

      Parents being anti-gay can cause depression in gay children. That’s why gay teens have the highest suicide rate of any group. Gay teens being kicked out of their parents’ houses for “choosing” to be gay is why gays make up the largest group of homeless teens in virtually every city in this country. It boggles the mind that people are so backward that they turn their backs on their own children for being gay. It’s as rational as rejecting a child for having brown eyes.

      When you’re a child, your earliest sense of self of self-worth and identity comes from your parents. If they’re telling you that you are an abomination or that the only type of relationship that will make you happy is a sin and if they reject your request for unconditional love and acceptance, that can be devastating, especially during the teen years which are a tough time for most kids without that added burden of dealing with being gay. So yes, being anti-gay DOES matter a great deal. For tens of thousands of kids, being forced to choose between being the person their parents insist they be and being who they truly are is too great a struggle and causes them so much pain that death seems to be the only way to end the pain and conflict.

      Religious teachings about the causes and nature of homosexuality directly cause the deaths of thousands of gay kids every year in this country. That’s one reason so many people are finally turning away from religious teachings about anything to do with science or human physiology.

      • http://brotherclarksblog.blogspot.com/ Clark E. Dunlap

        yes I suppose that religious teachings may do that. But mostly its mean people who do that. But I reject your contention that to disagree with gay behavior kills teens. which is what you said in a nutshell. Gay behaviour is a sin. But if my child was gay I would still love them and they would always be welcome in my home. That is the real Christian response.

        • RTB

          Sorry Clark, but that doesn’t go far enough. You need to get over your need to “disagree with gay behavior.” That is as irrational as disagreeing with heterosexual behavior. Gay behavior is not a sin. That is the real rational response.

          • trixiewoobeans

            There you are, bright and early, still spouting off about something that MAY or MAY NOT be true… which has been pointed out to you… but I see you haven’t let absence of facts get in the way of your story. Crikey.

    • Jest.de-fax

      Suicide is the final escape from pain. It is sad that his son felt no other recourse to end his pain. I don’t know if Rick Warren’s son was gay, but I can tell you that a gay person who has parents who are unaccepting has a high risk of suicide. All the science on this topic demonstrates that we are created gay or straight. Therefore the same finger of God that creates a straight person, also creates gay people. It even exists in over 1,000 species on the planet. If Rick’s son was gay, life was made intolerable by his father’s ignorance and arrogance.

  • Barry Obama

    So do we believe someone who goes on msnbc or gives an interview to the Advocate claiming they “knew’ Matthew was gay?

  • Alphabeta Beta

    where oh where is “bullyville” on the hatred, bullying tweets of the warren bashers?

  • EastValleyConservative

    These people are disgusting. Love how one of them points out (without facts) that Warren donates to Uganda where gays were murdered while missing completely the fact that our government props up (and sends our money) Muslim regimes where they execute gays based on their so-called religion.

    • NY Republican

      gotta love how they support the so called “religion of peace” that DOES kill gays

    • RTB

      Our government does not support moderate muslim regimes because they are homophobic. We support those regimes because they are less radical than the more extremist muslim groups that might otherwise take over. The kind that are also wildly homophobic and will kill gays and also provide havens for lunatics that fly airplanes into our buildings.

  • Deborah McGee Thurmond

    As a minister myself, I can tell you that ministers and their families deal with the same things every other family does. They have the same joys and sorrows as others. I also lost a son when he was 3 weeks from 19. No parent is ever prepared for that. The Warren’s need the prayers and the support of the Christian community right now, no matter how you feel about him personally. Those hurling accusations should be ashamed and just need to keep them to themselves.

    • foxnationasshoIes

      Rick Warren is a spewer of hate speech and will not be treated with anything but disdain.

  • Lois Daniel Skipworth

    To the Warren Family…..May God comfort you in this great time of need. I too have a loved one who suffers from chemical depression. He is called my husband. He is not gay. He was a minister for 38 years before having this horrible condition overtake him. He too was suicidal and later he would tell me he felt like killing himself was the right thing to do. It is so sad that there is so much hate in the world today for people who live and practice Christianity. But it doesn’t surprise me because the Bible teaches that this will happen in the last days. I have often said that each individual answers for themselves. You do as you please but allow us to have our say too. It takes awful hate to prey upon a family grieving over a dead son. I pray that none of you haters ever get depression like this. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy, or those who don’t see eye-to-eye with me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/marta.moulder Marta Moulder

    How horrible. Regardless of who or what to blame, these people have lost their child. It doesn’t matter how old that child is. Whatever the reason, these parents are dealing with a tragic loss. Whether this or some other reason is behind it, as parents, they wonder what they could’ve done and blame themselves. Pray for them. Pray for the world to change. We should all try to be kind and tolerate for this very reason. You never know how things said or done can be the last straw for a person.

  • Guest

    fudgepacking is normal ? IDK

    • APW

      Cruel.

  • David_Francis

    I don’t follow Rick Warren. I have been critical of him and thought some of his teaching has weakened the Church. However, he desperately needs prayers right now. It doesn’t matter what Matthew’s sex life was or wasn’t. None of that will help any of us who remain. I’m very sorry to hear this news. I’m embarrassed to see the comments above from fellow human beings, who too will someday die. If these remarks are their way of walking the talk about being civil, tolerant, loving etc., may we never discover what their expression of hatred would be. I wouldn’t wish this tragedy on Rick, on any of the hate mongering twitter’s here, or anyone else. I will pray for the Warren family.

  • tomstur

    The tragedy is our judgement of motivation. Life begins innocently and ends innocently. Death as tragic as it might seem, is a way to release, an evil so out of control. Ending its influence is almost heroic. For one to realize their mind is becoming out of control and in response takes ones own life to protect innocent others is mercy. Questioning our purpose and finding the answer was not spontaneous. An emotional outburst can be carried out and problem solved. Blame it on medications, dad, or confusion. An individual acted out the final answer. Let it go.

  • Linda Terhune

    Liberals are such EVIL PEOPLE! They call Rick Warren a hater (for his beliefs) while they post the most intolerant, nasty, vile, immoral, trashy EVIL stuff I have ever seen. How can any human be so INCREDIBLY NASTY and insensitive to a man who has suffered a HUGE loss? OH, I KNOW………… It’s because they are liberals and that’s how liberals roll… They are creating filth & ruin in our country at an alarming rate….. And to be a member of the most nasty people in the US club… you only need have no soul and sign up to be a DEMONCRAT.

  • hea

    Reading these comments i understand what Jesus said: From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks: Pastor Warren was right. These people are full of the devil in their hearts.

    • foxnationasshoIes

      Beware demons!!

  • Howzah123

    These people are a special kind of evil

  • dodgergirl88

    How sad for the Warren family. My prayers to them as they grieve and try to come up with answers as to why. What these vile people tweet above is not how most humans are or react. These vile comments only make them look like the losers they are. They must be very miserable people indeed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/brett.mcmicken Brett McMicken

    even if he was gay, i get the feeling that they would consider the suicide worth it because it “fits” their agenda

  • http://twitter.com/KimAnne KimAnne

    People will always make stupid comments. They call it Karma. if thats truly what you believe in then know it will bite you in the butt as well. You are all mean spirited people, who will be judged for every word that proceeds from your mouths”. Not my words…Gods.”

  • stellatruman

    It’s remarks like this that makes me refrain from joining twitter. It takes a truly evil, soulless human to post hateful, inflammatory remarks regarding the death of a loved one. Let the man grieve in peace without the hate. Sometimes social media outlets are an awful place where people forget their manners, morals and sense of basic human decency and respect. I’m beginning to think of turning it all off ( except for fun sources that don’t encourage this type of behavior )

  • Michael Loftus

    I can not wait until some of these folks stand before God Almighty…then see how quick they change their tunes. There is no reason for some of these comments. It was his son, gay or not he loved him. Why be cruel and judgmental. Isn’t that what you tolerant libs are against?

  • David_Francis

    “There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God.” The twitterers above sure sound boastful, verbally abusive and proud of it, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, obviously slanderous, brutal, rash, lover’s of pleasure, despisers of God. Could we have here decaying evidence of the “last daze”?

  • Selma Birch

    You can tell from the vile and crazed comments of the above group of psychotic homosexuals that proves that being gay is a mental disorder!!!

  • Nitro

    Pure hate and evil being spewed. A lost soul thought the answer to his problems was to take his own life. May god have mercy on his soul and may HE forgive these vile people of the venom they uttered.

  • TJ

    It will not be the H8 to gays that brings out the biggest ghouls that have a platform and soapbox. it will be the gun even if not done by gun. Suicides by gun kill more than assault rifles and that will be the ghouls next target.

  • NRPax

    And if it turns out that the young man was straight, I’m sure that there will be a sonic boom heard on Twitter as these vile waste of sperm cells recant their statements and apologize.

    Yeah. Thought so. I hate people.

  • beautifuldayifyoubelieve

    Evil has taken over the planet its clear by these comments. May GOD help heal your souls.

  • Gary Elkins

    Wow. I happen to know Rick Warren loves ALL people. The ignorant hatred displayed here is disgusting.

    • el_polacko

      backing and funding the murderously anti-gay ugandans is a strange way to express one’s “love for ALL people”.

      losing one’s child is certainly tragic…but admit it, didn’t just about everybody upon hearing this news wonder if maybe the son was gay ? it’s the most obvious reason for his suicidal depression. this kind of thing happens all too often.
      my condolences to the family and my prayers for the young man who, sadly, saw no other way out.

      • trixiewoobeans

        Only people who don’t understand mental illness and depression would take that route. It wasn’t even on my radar. It’s the Liberal Blame Game being played out, AGAIN. This goes to show how little people know about it…just like the school, mall and theater shooters…”let’s blame the gun, not mental illness.” And now it’s “let’s blame the Dad, not mental illness”. Severe depression is a living nightmare, and he couldn’t do it anymore. End of story.

      • u2u2u2

        Only the perverts assumed that he must have been gay. It’s where their diseased, polluted minds go automatically.

      • melle1228

        No, the most OBVIOUS reason for depression is that he has well um depression. You do realize that depression is a CHEMICAL PHYSICAL condition. It has NOTHING to do with being bullied or being gay.

  • jeff

    Did Pastor Warren ever mention the word gay in his book? What about privacy being applied to public figures? This only applies with conservative public figures. The comments illustrate the left’s evil and their intentions.

  • Chris Alicki

    Sad how the people who are now attacking Warren that his son’s dead, can now say something disgusting that he deserves to grieve, your as sick as you claim Warren to be. Nobody who loses a child regardless whatever he bashed or whatever should be spoken about like that. Careful what you say, for when the time comes and something like that happens in your life like this you’ll feel the same way. If you don’t have nothing nice to say don’t say it at all!

  • http://profiles.google.com/fish.face.freckle.fingers Spasmolytic

    Liberals are cruel.

  • jpinkglasses

    We have zero information on the Pastor’s son’s sexuality. But if these comments are intended to convince people that Rick Warren, a Christian Pastor is hateful and a bigot, these people are as far from the mark as the East is from the West. I would never want to be categorized with such horrible, wretched, wicked mouthed bigots as these. I am a Christian. I believe the Bible is the Word of God. In the New Testament, there are three passages about homosexuality and they all say “don’t do that.” {Obviously paraphrased}. There are several things we, as followers and lovers of Christ are told to not do. Because, we are sinners, we do them. We are grateful for the extreme sacrifice made by God and Jesus, his Son; so we can receive forgiveness. MOST Christians do not hate Gay people. We didn’t edit the Bible; so we could mess with people. I am amazed that we say, “Yes, the Bible defines homo-sexuality as a sin.” The so called tolerant folks get all hysterical and say we are bashing Gays. I choose not to oppose Gay marriage. We were not called to interfere in the behaviors of non-believers. I will fight like a dog WHEN they start trying to force it on the Church to participate. I am far more concerned right now with what I am supposed to be doing… what all Christians are supposed to be doing. Sharing the awesomeness of God and his amazing power to heal hearts, cleanse souls, forgive all, lift spirits, purify us from the poisons we are drenched with in this toxic world, free the enslaved, and make people whole again. I don’t give a damn if you’re queer, but I’m not going to be silent while you shout your lies and hate from the roof tops. YOU LIE! YOU LIE! YOU LIE! Stop it. You’re so wrapped up in your own seething hatred, you are blind to the fact, a WHOLE LOT more Christians love you than hate you.

    • Guest

      CNN’s comment section on this story is absolutely overflowing with ignorant hatred.

    • APW

      Jeri, that is beautifully said. My sentiments exactly.

  • Tanker74

    I thought self-proclaimed “gay” people were supposed to be the most caring and compassionate people in history, and not the intrinsically disordered individuals they show themselves to be on Twitter.

    • foxnationasshoIes

      You seem to be a self-proclaimed “moron”.

      • Tanker74

        You prove my point. Typical.

  • http://www.facebook.com/donna.dunaway.77 Donna Dunaway

    You sick , vile people, turning a tragedy into political commentary.

  • Elke E. Wilhelm

    Proof positive that the Left is evil.

  • conservativemomma

    I would like to take all the “Christian” Obama voters and have them live with only
    other Obama voters for a week without having any ” Republican Christians” interact with them. Let them see who they really align themselves with.

  • Martin Corie

    We should not be surprised at the depraved responses by depraved, reprobate beings. When one CHOOSES to journey life’s course in the diametrically opposite direction than the path designed by the Creator, such depravity is in keeping. Sodomites are to be pitied, not hated…but NEVER to be condoned or embraced as “normal, just alternative.”

    • foxnationasshoIes

      You’ve been possessed by the ghost of Adolf Hitler. Seek spiritual salvation immediately or face eternal damnation.

  • RTB

    People are not being mean spirited by asking if parental rejection and intolerance played a role in his son’s death. Parental and societal rejection can cause intense distress and depression. Gay teens have the highest suicide rate of any group because of these hateful messages of rejection they receive from family at the behest of religious authorities and their primitive beliefs about the nature of human sexuality. Tens of thousands of gay people have killed themselves because they’ve been told by the people who should love them unconditionally that they are somehow deficient, sinful or evil simply for existing. All based on a bronze age book of fables. It is absurd.

    • Gary Rudick

      That “bronze age book of fables” as you call it predicted the gay rights movement 2000 years ago. Be careful what you wish for, because you are going to get it, and much sooner than you think.

      • http://twitter.com/Blakeupshaw Blake Upshaw

        Damn your crazy

      • RTB

        Sure. And if you eat a burger today, I can predict you’ll have a bowel movement in a few hours. Does that make me a prophet sent from above?

    • u2u2u2

      You don’t think that blaming someone for their loved one’s suicide is mean spirited? Especially when the people blaming don’t know anything about the kid who died?

      • RTB

        Rick Warren provided financial and moral support for an effort to pass a law in Uganda prescribing death for people found to be gay. Does that sound like someone who merits sympathy? I feel sad for his son; but contempt for Rick Warren. He is evil.

        • u2u2u2

          Well, at least you’ve given up on the claim that gloating over the suicide of someone’s son isn’t mean spirited.

  • unklbrad

    Shameless and classless liberals. Redundant.

  • Fred Cheock

    1 Thess. 4:13,,,: But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.

    15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and
    remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

  • Eric Schmitt

    people commenting on a situation they literally know nothing about is vile and
    sickening. and i have a feeling that they would only say this garbage
    over the internet and never say this stuff to Rick Warren’s face; which
    only proves that they are cowards. they should be ashamed, but i know
    they aren’t.

  • AaronHarrisinAlaska

    And they say the persecution complex among Christians is unwarranted :/

  • Jeannie Hurley

    My sister committed suicide 14 years ago at the age of 17. It is one of the most tragic things a family can go through because you never get the answer to the question “Why?” Pastor Warren will be asking himself until he dies “What did I do? Why my son?” He doesn’t need the bitterness, ignorance, and hatred of these trolls added on to his family’s pain. And here’s a clue people, while I can’t speak to Pastor Warren’s teachings, the Catholic Church does not hate gays. The Catholic Church doesn’t hate anyone. PEOPLE hate PEOPLE. PEOPLE fear PEOPLE. The Catholic Church has an entire document that explains quite clearly what and why it believes and teaches what it does. It’s called the CATECHISM of the CATHOLIC CHURCH. Look it up.

    The Catholic Church’s teachings, based on natural law and supported by the Bible is that marriage is the only place where sexual expression should take place because in the sex act there is always the chance to engender life. ANY sexual congress taking place outside of marriage is looked on as sinful behavior. HOWEVER, nowhere, anywhere, does the BIble or the Catholic Church’s catechism state that the “Catholic Church hates gays”. Just like any other sinner, the Church doesn’t turn away gays. The Church actually teaches that we should *pray* for gays like we should pray for all sinners. Jesus gave us 2 Commandments that summed up the 10 Commandments perfectly: 1. You shall love the Lord, Your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and all your mind. 2. You shall love your neighbor as yourself.

    If more of us believed that we were made in God’s image and likeness, it would be a lot harder for us to hate (ourselves and) each other and easier to love one another. “Love one another. For as the Father has sent me, so I send you.” So, I will pray for Matthew Warren, and anyone else who is suffering with depression and suicidal pain; I will pray for Pastor Warren and his family that their grief may be lessened; and I will pray for all sinners (including myself) that we shall repent and sin no more.

    • http://kissingryan.com/ ARealHousewifeInOC

      rick is now reaping what he sowed.

    • RTB

      The last pope said that gays are “intrinsically disordered.” That sounds like hate to me. I always thought his comment was rich coming from a man who preferred the exclusive company of other men and had an affinity for red designer pumps. Not saying he was so closeted that he couldn’t see how obvious he was being, but I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that he had a killer collection of show tunes. Just sayin . . .

      Those Catholic priests, cardinals and popes have a penchant for condemning publicly what they do privately. What is it, 40% are reckoned to be gay? The highest ranking cardinal in Scotland – who dutifully denounced gay rights during his tenure – resigned last month after his boyfriend outed him. As I said. Rich.

      • Jeannie Hurley

        “Intrinsically disordered” does not equal “hate”. And actually, Pope Benedict the XVI had a community of people around him including women. Seriously- shoes? That’s how you decide if someone is gay? Isn’t that a bit bigoted on your part? And as I said earlier: The CHURCH does not hate. PEOPLE hate. Where is your actual proof that 40% of priests are gay? Oh wait, they’re “reckoned” to be gay. And even if they are gay, it only matters if they act upon their sexual urges. Being celibate is a discipline a priest volunteers for when they are ordained. They know what they are getting into. Yes, there are priests and cardinals who break their vows and that is tragic. But they know what they are doing is wrong. Just like there are married men and women who break their vows of faithfulness and celibacy to each other. They too know what they’re doing is wrong. You’re proving to be as generous and forgiving as the trolls heaping pain and suffering on Pastor Warren- which is not very. I reiterate- READ the catechism. Nowhere does it say that Catholics should “hate” gays. No Pope has ever preached that we should “hate” gays. There’s a difference between saying someone has a disorder and that a person with a disorder should be hated because of it.

      • Southern fried

        Many people have intrinsic disorders.If a physician tells me I have diabetes does that mean he hates me?

  • http://www.facebook.com/sherry.w.chamberlain Sherry Whitmer- Chamberlain

    I get so tired of being called a hater because I disagree with someone…hate the sin love the sinner and I am very sure Rick loved his son very much…God bless that family…

    • http://twitter.com/stevenhals Steve Hals

      The “hate” accusations are simply a distraction and sidetrack designed to get you debating whether or not you are a bigot, rather than focusing on the issue at hand. People that accuse you of hate for your beliefs cannot substantively argue their point, aside from slander and name-calling.

    • Jest.de-fax

      You’re making a lot of assumptions. For example, even a virgin can be gay. So your whole point about ‘hate the sin, love the sinner’ is a specious argument. The only way a gay kid is acceptable in the eyes of religious bigots is to hide and pretend he is straight. In other words, live a lie to please others.

  • APW

    Where on earth is the milk of human kindness? I don’t know who Rick Warren is, but people are saying terrible things at a time of the most profound sorrow. It’s like witnessing a shark feeding frenzy. Kicking a man when he’s down and speculating that his poor tortured son’s motivation was that he was gay–it’s awful that anger and hatred begets more anger and hatred. People seem to have lost their souls.

    • http://kissingryan.com/ ARealHousewifeInOC

      you obviously don’t know Rick Warren.

  • DeborahPE

    If Rick warren were Muslim, we wouldn’t hear one word from these creeps.

  • rebalang

    I think God loves gay people, but God graciously given us freedom to do what is right. He is loving but also righteous God.

  • https://twitter.com/MicheleFirkus Mfirk

    Wow, people are unbelievably cruel. Have a little compassion for the family. People find spewing hate so easily it scary.

  • Matt Dudak

    For every person on here bashing him in his time of pain. there is going to be time for reaping what you sew!!! I pray that Gods mighty hand of vengeance hits you all so hard in this life time that you serve as an example to others!

    • http://kissingryan.com/ ARealHousewifeInOC

      The basic nature of God’s Justice:
      GALATIANS 6: 7-9 and RW is experiencing exactly that.

      it’s time he start repenting his own evil ways and execution of homosexuals.

  • Valjean

    Rick Warren would merely ask God’s forgiveness for those who have made these hateful, vile and wicked, slanderous comments and lies, much like Jesus asked for forgiveness for those who nailed him to the Cross. We can only pray that the hearts of those who made these comments are opened to the love of Christ. Praying for peace and comfort for Rick Warren and his family in their time of grief.

  • http://twitter.com/stevenhals Steve Hals

    The most disgusting aspects of these tweets is that the GLBT/liberal crowd is HOPING Warren’s son was gay. If it turns out he wasnt, they will be severely disappointed. Not because a young man is dead, but because a young, gay man is not dead. How twisted is that?

  • ReaganCountry

    I live 2 minutes from Saddleback Church and have been a member for 12 years. Let me tell you; Rick is the real deal. These people that trash talk him and slander him, in the race/Christian-bating fashion that King Hussein taught them, makes me sick. Don’t stand too close to them…as lightening will strike, soon.

  • Anderson

    What a collection of poor excuses for human beings. Too vile for words. My deepest sympathies to the Warren family on the loss of their son. Prayers going out to them.

  • billcollier

    Evil sure shows its self in ignorance.

  • Mary

    But… was he gay? or is this a bunch of speculation designed to excuse a total lack of empathy? ‘Lack of empathy’ by the way, is common in people suffering from some of the more serious forms of ‘mental illness’

    Someones’ son just died- just hold on to yourselves… there are plenty of other ‘targets’ to amuse yourselves with.

    • RTB

      No one is amused. If he was gay, then is death is all the more tragic because it may have been entirely preventable.

      • melle1228

        Suicide is preventable (gasp) even if one is not gay. The MAN was 27 years old and IF and that is a big if he was gay, if he did not accept himself at that point; it was his own fault. Furthermore, any medical care or treatment was entirely his right and responsibility at that point.

      • Anonymous

        If he wasn’t gay please shut up forever.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=604783625 Kat Katablog

    It’s so sad that there are so many mentally ill people in this country that lack both heart and compassion, using a personal tragedy that would knife any parent’s heart to make political hay. Hearts and prayers for the Warren family.

  • https://twitter.com/StefWilliams25 Stefanie

    I am truly sad for Rick Waren’s loss, even if I completely disagree with his opinions and harsh judgments on gay people. The reality is, if Matthew was gay, his father’s inability to separate religious beliefs from reality probably added to the depression Matthew was feeling. Rick Warren makes millions off the of the degradation of gay people. If it’s true that his son was gay, I simply hope those millions are worth the years he has now lost with his son. It is so easy to condemn the world and disregard the pain that thousands of families go through each year due to suicides that attacks like the ones Warren set on gay kids cause when it isn’t your child. There is no religion in the world that is worth driving a child so far away from his family that the only place he feels he has left to go is to a noose. I hope this is an eye opener for Warren – careless words that disregard and attack someone’s benign reality can lead to truly tragic consequences. My thoughts are with the family.

  • http://www.facebook.com/neena.guidi Neena Guidi

    Remember Jesus preached unconditional LOVE!

  • quimminator

    Mental illness can be devastating for any family.It is disgusting that anyone would use this as a time to attack someone who has just lost his son.I pray God gives Rick and his family strength at this very sorrowful time.

  • Steve

    Their anonymity allows them to vent the demons that torture their souls. They know the end is near and the verdict was in LONG AGO, at the beginning of time. We all will answer for the wrongs (word,thought and deed) that are committed here. …it’s safe to vent on Christians…try it near a Mosque.

  • Larry Pool

    A man loses his son and a bunch of hate mongrels start bashing him. Pitiful absolutely pitiful.

  • Knybee

    “A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.”

    This then is the evidence of these posters evil treasure. They like to speak of love as if they know it, but by their fruits you will know them. They say support our doings because they are done in love. Yet if that were true would evil then come forth from their mouths?
    But these only “love” those who “love” them. This is because they love those who are mirror images of themselves. From a truth standpoint then, they love themselves and see others according to what they see in the mirror. Therefore they know not God who loves even those who are not like Him. They seek no deeper love, but they stay in the shallows. And they hate those who go in deeper. For those who go in deeper seek God and His greater love. And when the seekers find Him and receive that love, it is a badge of honor that they are rejected even as Christ, by those who are of the world.

    Then after finding Gods way, most of those who point out these sins do so because of the possibility of the danger of them to others. If those who hate the sin say nothing, or hate the shallow person forgetting that they themselves were once in the shallows but were saved by grace, then these indeed would be acts of hatred not love. But to speak of the greater deeper love by first rejecting sin, means a will to lift up others to being closer to God, and therefore a fulfilling love for them. And that means believing not in the will of man for men, but in the will of God for all. Because the evidence is clear that God loves us and wants the best for us far greater than we know how to do so to ourselves.

    The simple truth is that we are brought forth by Gods design. There are those who say “Just let me be who I am”. Yet how could they possibly know who they truly are unless they first know Gods plan? It’s coming a decision without all of the evidence. Like the old show “Let’s make a deal”, the contestant is guessing and can’t possibly know which door opens to the most wonderful gift. But God doesn’t guess, He knows, and He seeks that for us. Then when those who guess see the greater gift that others have received by trusting in Him, the inevitable envy arises.
    Bless the Lord o my soul.

  • SeAsia Moto

    love them even when they hate you … have hope and faith … I PRAY FOR RICK

  • Cal

    How dare they.

  • bonaparte3

    Oh, just leave the man alone to grieve his loss!

  • http://www.facebook.com/djbadkid Kevin Griffin

    Maybe if Rick Warren had spent more time at home and less time making millions off being a bigot his son would be alive.

  • redrabbit

    “This should be a place for condolences and not a place to vilify or condemn Rick Warren.”

    That would be all fine and dandy had Rick Warren not caused many other families much the same pain. Rick certainly never waited to give them any time to grieve and many of his followers often reacted with glee when something bad happened to the people Rick loudly and repeatedly condemned.

    I feel sorry for his son, whatever was going on was obviously excruciating, but I don’t feel an ounce of sympathy for Rick or his wife.

  • RedSoloCup

    And the Twitter Religious Bigots continue to expose their true colors.

  • Captain Jack

    Sad that people are sooo hate filled that they take oppurtunity to spew vile comments about Pastor Rick Warren and his son Matthew after Matt committed suicide. Matthew had a long term, mental illness. Evidently the nasty folks could stand several counseling sessions.

  • RememberSekhmet

    Boymv18 seems to be a resident of New Jersey. Check the tweets talking about New Jersey utility service. For all the low-info voters, that means the guy claiming on Twitter to know Rick Warren’s son and his alleged sexual orientation had to do so from the butt other end of the country.

  • Bryan Maynard

    Horribly sad the hate that those idiots are spewing. Gotta love how the left preaches tolerance, but ONLY when you support THEIR sick twisted views.

    • RTB

      Tolerance of hatred is not the type of tolerance that any thinking person understands the word tolerance to mean. Shall we also be tolerant of racists, anti-semites and mass murderers? Of course not. As soon as religious types stop preaching hatred towards gays and stop attacking the legitimacy of science, people who stand for equal rights and equal human dignity will stop caring about what the religious types believe.

      • RememberSekhmet

        This is America, pal. People have the right to think all kinds of things you or I don’t agree with. Tolerance doesn’t just mean suffering those who do things that are not our cup of tea, it means letting people do stuff we totally don’t agree with, because by and large they aren’t hurting anybody.

      • melle1228

        What “science” exactly are you talking about? Science has neither proven nor disproven that gay is a inherent condition. And since you are for equal rights, do you support the poor paying “equal” taxes to the rich? Since you are for equal rights, do you support a adult child taking care of their aging parents being able to marry for financial reasons? C’mon you realize that ‘equality under the law” means just that.

        And yes, – hate to tell you as abhorrent has you find anti-semites and racists- the first amendment applies to them. No one is forced to sit in Saddleback Church or listen to Rick Warren.

  • Larry Bavaro

    who paying these stinking libs to shit out of their mouths, instead of their ass,

  • https://twitter.com/Random_acct Random_acct

    So much hate from “progressives”. I wish I could say I was surprised.

  • AlanABQ

    True colors.
    The “tolerant” crowd always seems to run out of compassion & open-mindedness whenever there’s an opportunity to gloat, no matter how vile that opportunity may be…in fact, the more hateful & hurtful it can be, the better.

    “That’ll teach you to stand your ground & oppose the status quo!”

    Except, no – it won’t: it WILL teach me to be proud to be hated by the hateful & stand my ground even stronger for God and country.

  • Freddie

    Not surprised to see Christian Dominionists playing the victim yet again, ignoring all the while that this is a very real possibility. As one of the commentators pointed out, Warren DID consider homosexuality to be a “mental illness” and that IS what he attributes his son’s death to. For all we know, these “counselors” Warren sent his son to could have been quacks at NARTH who were only adding fuel to the fire of his son’s mental illness by telling him that God hates him for being gay and so forth.

    True, a few of the comments did step over the line, but Warren himself has stepped over the line many times. Having said that he is still deserving of compassion… nobody should have to lose their child for any reason, but that includes those who have lost their children due to the hateful and discriminatory attitudes that Warren’s rhetoric has contributed to.

    • NA1NSXR

      Please familiarize yourself with the situation before you open your trap again.

      • Freddie

        Take your own advice and take your inane statements with you while you’re at it.

    • ClinkinKY

      Looking forward to your thoughts about the suicides…I mean executions… of gays in Muslim countries. (And your use of Freddie Mercury’s photo is beneath contempt).

    • June Clinkenbeard

      So you are justifying the statements of evil people about this tragedy because you disagree with Pastor Warren? You must not be a parent.

  • http://twitter.com/kommonKat KAT

    I never heard of the “famous preacher” until his face was on my news this morning. so his fame is to a limited group of peope. Too bad his son didnt know that.

  • MrTouchShriek

    Oh how you social conservatives do crack me up with your paranoia. Social media is social media, and you will find disgusting rhetoric when a celebrity or family of celebrity passes away anywhere.

    It’s no laughing matter that the self-hatred you and your socially conservative ilk inspire in your children and family members often and unfortunately leads to violence or suicide, however. Going after progressives for being “hateful” is beyond the pot/kettle analogy.

    • melle1228

      First off, not all of us going after “progressive being hateful” are against gay marriage..(pot meet kettle).. Most of us just tend to see someone who claims that they are tolerant and fighting bigotry spouting their own intolerance and bigotry as hilarious– Well and tragic if you consider the fact that they have already deemed this man gay and love the fact that he committed suicide.

      And I also find it funny that you seem to think you know how I raise my children.

  • 24fan

    oh for heaven’s sake cant they think of anything else besides homosexuality and racism? a lick of sympathy isn’t that hard especially if they themselves have suffered a loss as well.

  • Bswanson

    What happens to all these people that so want Warrens son to be gay find out that he wasn’t gay but just had mental issues?

    People jump on the hateraid bandwagon so fast that they show what little tolerance, decency, or love they actually have.

  • Christopher Richey

    I am going to jump in here…all of you gay-rights guys ought to get this point…SUICIDE IS A CHOICE…no one can make you do it…I chose to live instead of die…just as I chose to put the gun in my mouth in the first place…suicide is about feeling powerless…seeking blame is the result of failing to take responsibility…if anti-gay beliefs can drive a person to suicide…then all of them would have killed themselves by now. Don’t you think?

    • RTB

      A disproportionate percentage of gay kids do kill themselves, mainly because of the lies they are told by their religiously inspired families and peers. You know that religion can make a person blow himself up, but you doubt that religion can drive a person to kill himself alone?

      • melle1228

        This “boy” was not a kid. He was a 27 year old man who lived by himself. If he did not receive treatment for his mental illness or accept himself for who he was at that point in his life- it was his CHOICE– not his parent’s fault. And some gay kids kill themselves even though their parents accept them- what about them? Maybe gays should be looking internally in addition to externally why gay kids kill themselves and stop blaming others since it doesn’t seem to be helping anyone.

        • http://twitter.com/KahNayNay KahNayNay

          HE RECIEVED THE BEST TREATMENT MONEY COULD BUY….YOU ALL ARE MORONS….. WHEN YOU HAVE SPLIT PERSONALITIES OR SCHIZOPHRENIA THERE IS NO CURE…..HE LIVED IN HELL, AND ONE OF HIS MENTAL ILLNESSES KILLED HIM…Geez, all you judgemental assholes just piss me off….nobody knows what happened and Mr. Warren is not a homophobe (there is no such thing) or a bigot. He is a preacher of the bible…..remember for those who defame others, Karma is the real bitch.

      • Anonymous

        What if he wasn’t gay? Oh wait you’ll still blame the parent you inbred toad.

  • http://twitter.com/sunofmysoul Sunofmysoul

    This is a tragedy for all who knew Matthew. For those of us who didn’t …It’s easy to assume, and perhaps some enjoy leaping to conclusions…
    But Rick Warren had an interesting position about gays, and even faced serious condemnation from some evangelicals about it….read before you leap?

  • http://twitter.com/sunofmysoul Sunofmysoul
  • Kathy Jones Stanaway

    Praying for Rick warren and his family. May our God comfort you and your family. So sad that there are so many evil and foolish and hateful comments directed at you during your time of grief. Just remember when you try to live a life that honors God, you will be hated and life will be hard. God died for those haters and may they come yo know Christ in s personal way.

  • Maxx

    Inside the mind of a liberal…chapter 31

    “What better time to attack a religious man for his beliefs than hours after his son commits suicide?”

  • PeterP

    It’s always nice to hear from the tolerant ones.

  • GaryTheBrave

    I’m still trying to figure who said Matthew was gay. It appears that all the haters assumed he was gay. When you ASSUME something then you are making an ASS out of U and ME. (Trivia time: What 1970’s TV show did that come from?)

  • voiceofreason6

    Don’t you just love hearing people bash all christians as “homophobic”. Way to show the love, folks.

  • Dave Jones

    Rick Warren loves his son. He is not the gay basher the extremists make him out to be. His son was troubled and struggled with suicidal ideations for years. My heart goes out to the Warrens.

  • disqus_FlD2VMR2RJ

    Excellent examples of walking, talking human excrement posting hatred towards Rick Warren as they play the role of armchair psychologist in an attempt to diagnose Matthew Warren’s mental state.

  • June Clinkenbeard

    I won’t read another disgusting word. The most painful of circumstances a parent could ever face has happened to Pastor Warren and his family. Anything beyond their pain, any comments or musings on the reason for their son’s death, is to me, beyond abhorrent. God bless them and be with them throughout this incredibly painful situation. Those who feel compelled to comment in an inappropriate and vile manner do not know how their words will come back to haunt them. I wonder who will pray for them then?

  • disqus_OvRBV16F3X

    Feel sorry for the guy. Doesn’t matter if his son was gay. As far a Warren goes, he should stop being a bigot

    • melle1228

      You realize that the bigot card is overplayed much like the racist card. It tends to lose its effectiveness. It becomes “the boy who cried wolf.” I don’t think that no fault divorce should be legal, but that doesn’t mean I “hate” people who get them. I don’t think that woman should be single parents, but that doesn’t mean I hate woman who have to become them.

      • foxnationasshoIes

        Sorry, clown. Crying about others calling out your bigotry is a lame strategy and not likely to work. Thanks for playing anyway.

        • melle1228

          Again, nothing intelligent to add. And by the way A$$, I support civil unions for all and am an agnostic, but thanks for proving YOUR BIGOTRY…

          • foxnationasshoIes

            Yep, I’m a bigot against bigots. Shame on me.

  • melle1228

    These boards are a perfect example of why the whole cry for “gay equality” has nothing whatsoever to do with equality. “Gay equality” is going to be used as a hammer to go after every person who has ever made them “feel bad about themselves.” The problem is acceptance cannot be legislated. Furthermore, many people are not accepted by their peers or their parents and yet they go on to live productive lives. People that kill themselves require psychiatric care. Many people are bullied and don’t kill themselves.

    The fact that many of you match what you deem as hate with hate just shows how mean, spiteful and horrible many of you are. You want acceptance, acceptance and tolerance runs both ways. You don’t have to accept and tolerate other people, but then don’t expect it back.

    • foxnationasshoIes

      Laughing at fools like you is sport.

      • melle1228

        Laughter is easier than having an intelligent response I guess..

        • foxnationasshoIes

          Still waiting for your first intelligent comment so I can follow suit.

          • melle1228

            Yes, because “hahahah you’re dumb” is soooo intelligent.

          • foxnationasshoIes

            Was that verbatim? No? Home schooled?

  • disqus_RRrWsgZNb3

    So cute how the Christians come out and condemn these comments…quoting their little fictitious bible verses and what not. It’s sad…silly…and downright ridiculous. I too have a strong feeling that the mental illness his son suffered from was WAY TOO GAY (to put it in a Christian-like way). The only person I truly feel for in this situation is the one who suffered, their son. I’m guessing the bulk of treatment he received was prayer. And THAT is the saddest part of the whole story.

    • melle1228

      He was 27 years old, and lived in his own home. What treatment he got and received was largely up to him at that point in his life. Hilarious that most of you don’t even see your own bigotry..

    • http://twitter.com/KahNayNay KahNayNay

      Bigot. So only gay people have a lock on suicide?? The boy had the best doctors and treatment and it didn’t help….he was probably suffering from schizophrenia, which what he saw in his imagination probably killed him….you have no experience in dealing with a loved one in mental torment, apparently. And you are not a parent either, it seems…..the truly tolerant among us see right thru your hatred and bigotry.

  • Blade_Runner_1776

    The people that are really HATEFUL on these posts are the ones claiming to be compassionate on this thread towards other. No one enjoys someone else’s grief but those that love to wade into and remain on their pools of misery, while accusing others of holding the moral high ground. It is a non sequitur.

  • T. Michael Huston

    ‘never let a tragedy go to waste’ liberals could not wait to co-opt Pastor Warren’s grief for their own political purposes… already branding this young man as gay as if there’s no other reason why a person would commit suicide…morally repugnant!

  • faythful1

    Hating anyone is the Devil’s work, but I will never call my God Allah!

  • Blade_Runner_1776

    @ Jeff Christian: You stated “Dear Rick Warren: now U know the “anguished grief” parents of gay teen suicides feel after listening 2 U and UR ilk’s anti-gay hate speech.” Obviously you are more compassionate and tolerant by your comments. What a way to show your tolerance and open mind!!!!. What a way to show your “High Moral Ground” posture, eh Jeff Christian?

  • Blade_Runner_1776

    @ Rashid Hussein Obama, you stated “I would’ve committed suicide if my dad was Rick Warren too.” YOU would have commited suicide if your REAL father was Obama, who himself was abandoned by his Communist father.

  • tuesday gravy

    karma is right. perhaps karma is paying a visit to rick warren? im just sayin… if you are going to bring up a concept such as karma im going to see how it plays out on all sides

  • tsmmar

    This tragic moment might be a good time to bring to the forefront the much needed attention to those who suffer from severe depression, anxiety, versus passing blame on parenting. Even if Pastor Warren’s son was gay…I would doubt it had anything to do with the end of his young life. Being gay is not a mental illness. Severe clinical depression and anxiety is.

  • VerminMcCann

    It’s always about dicks with these people.

  • foxnationasshoIes

    Sounds like this is on Marcus Bachmann. His reprogramming efforts were in vain!

  • TocksNedlog

    Over 300 comments, and MAYBE 15% of them are on-topic
    Incredible
    Seems to be A LOT of people assuming — without any proof whatsoever — that the liberal hate-spew meme (“the pastor’s son was gay and his father’s disapproval led to his suicide”) is true.

    • http://twitter.com/KahNayNay KahNayNay

      The Gay Left are the biggest haters and discriminators around, if you are a Christian….they can’t stand the fact that people simply disagree with them because of a religious teaching that they follow. There is no judgement, live the life you want to live….no matter what gay leftists think, changing the definition of a word is not going to force everyone to agree with you are who you are….I don’t care who marries who, but I see that intolerance is a virtue of those on the gay left, because they can dish it but can’t take it…..to “out” somebody based on NO FACTS, and to ignore that this guy had serious mental illness, is not only hateful, but it is showing how easy it is to be a big bad hater, when sitting in your basement behind a keyboard….

  • IAMSuperPatriot

    My condolences to Rick Warren and his family. The loss of a child is a terrible tragedy. I pray for healing for Rick and his family.

    Depression is a serious mental illness and it often leads to death through suicide. We need to treat it as a potentially lethal brain disease. I pray for the continued healing of those with serious mental illness.

    Many gay people have brought up the point that conflicts with his father over Matthew’s sexual orientation may have contributed to Matthew’s depression and suicide. We should all listen to these comments, the rejection by a parent of a child over something as fundamental as sexual identity is incredibly painful and deserving of healing. I pray that such divisions may be healed, for the continued healing of those individuals and families wounded by family conflict, and for the full acceptance of the LGBQT community in the American family.

    • melle1228

      No one knows what Matthew’s orientation is. They are speculating because apparently the only people who ever kill themselves at 27 “are gay people who were bullied by their parents.” See people don’t realize that depression is an actual medical condition that sometimes has NOTHING TO DO WITH being bullied. And Matthew was 27 years old for God’s sake. If he didn’t accept his “gayness” (assuming he was) at that age; then it was not his parent’s fault.

      • foxnationasshoIes

        His Father is a renowned bigot. Reprogramming couldn’t fix that.

        • melle1228

          Yeah and many of us grow up with parents who don’t accept us. Many of us have ‘mommy and daddy” issues. We grow up and learn to accept ourselves. Matthew Warren had a MEDICAL condition that had absolutely nothing to do with him being gay or not being gay.

          • foxnationasshoIes

            and you know this how…?

          • melle1228

            I know what how? The fact that he had a medical condition? I know that because the Warren family has come out and confirmed that Matthew has been on meds and received psychiatric treatment for years. So I have much more evidence than everyone assuming he was gay..

          • foxnationasshoIes

            “Evidence”, ie self serving claims from a bigot. You should be on CSI.

          • melle1228

            Spoken from someone who is using projection to speculate that this man might have been gay; I’ll take it as a compliment.

          • foxnationasshoIes

            LMAO…pointing out your inanity is a compliment? Cool.

          • http://twitter.com/KahNayNay KahNayNay

            Christianity is based on the Bible. The Bible teaches that having sex is a sin, for gay and stra8 alike, not in the confines of marriage….so what is bigoted about that??? It is a religous belief, just like Hindu, Jews, and Muslims abide by…..So why is Mr. Warren a bigot? Why are all Christians bigots to you? What did he say or do that was actually a slur against gay people? I have never heard the man say anything that was racist, homophobic, or misogynist…so please enlighten me….

  • foxnationasshoIes

    Will this cause Rick Warren to “evolve”?

  • http://www.facebook.com/luke.givens.963 Luke Givens

    So if ever a child adopted by a prominent gay couple were to commit suicide, I guess we’d just be hearing condolences and respect from EVERY single twitterer and random Internet commentator on the right?

    • foxnationasshoIes

      LOL…their hypocrisy knows no bounds

      • melle1228

        Who is they in “their hypocrisy?” There are people on this board celebrating Rick Warrens misfortune. And no if a “prominent gay couple” lost a child to suicide; I would be appalled and saddened. I wouldn’t worry about the “motive” or if they did something to their child. I would just wish them well and hope that they had peace in their grief.

        • foxnationasshoIes

          Spare me your disingeniousness. So-called “Christians” are renowned judgmental hypocrites. Y’all should call yourselves Pharisees for as little you have in common with your Christ. Cue “we’re all sinners” get out of jail free card in 3…2…1…

          • melle1228

            Again, you show your bigotry. First, I have not told you I am a Christian ( I am not). You assumed that I was. Again that is called projection.

          • foxnationasshoIes

            You asked who I was referring to and I told you. You seem to be a dolt. And yes, I’m a “bigot” against bigots. No turning the other cheek here.

          • melle1228

            You specifically said “spare me YOUR disingeniousness” before you went on a diatribe about Christians. So apparently I was linked in to your diatribe. Can’t help if it that your bias and bigotry shows itself with every post.

          • foxnationasshoIes

            And as stated, I’m a bigot against bigots. What’s your point? That I’m a bigot against close minded hypocrites? Guilty as charged!

          • melle1228

            You keep thinking that you are far superior, but when you project “your noble bigotry” on to people who don’t feel the way you assume; then you are no better than those “bigot bigots” that you feel you are superior to.

          • foxnationasshoIes

            And how do you know they don’t feel the way I assume? Are you assuming?

          • melle1228

            LOL– Because when you make a judgement on millions of people you don’t know. That isn’t noble bigotry; that is just straight bigotry.

          • foxnationasshoIes

            Shoe fits. Get over it.

          • melle1228

            And you aren’t anymore superior than those bigots you claim to be bigoted against. Wear your bigotry well.. Meh!

          • Silenttype78

            Which still makes you a bigot….which makes you no better than those you despise. The fact that you are unable to tolerate views you disagree with also makes you intolerant.
            Why do you waste your time trolling websites (such as Twitchy) that are most likely to have comments by people with views you find so unacceptable?
            And,good grief…even your username screams “obsessive”.
            I just don’t get it.
            I think it makes you look pretty pathetic.

  • Guest

    Just because Rick warren is a charlatan that is not a justification to spew hate and vitriolic laced comments. So Rick Warren uses the gospel of The Lord Jesus Christ to enrich hisself is no excuse to attack him and his family during this their time of need for true compassion.

  • Mike Davis

    I think these comments are correct. Mr. Warren takes 100% of the blame for his child’s death in my book. Don’t be a hateful bigot, you never know who will get hurt by your hate.

    • melle1228

      He does? What if he child wasn’t gay since his “gayness” is all projection and speculation? What if the 27 year old man simply had a mental illness? You do know that many NON-homosexual people kill themselves due to mental illness.

  • mmunson

    Both sides have their tasteless people. How about Jennifer Morse’s statements about Tyler Clementi’s death. http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2013/03/clementi-family-glaad-hrc-equality-matters-call-on-nomupdate-to-apologize.html

    • melle1228

      Did she accuse the Clementis of killing their own son and equate the Clementis with Susan Smith and Casey Anthony?

  • Disqus Dude

    Okay you know what? I am gay male and ANYONE using this tragedy as something other than a tragedy is a SICK PUPPY. We are ALL human beings we should ALL treat people with kindness, love and respect. I have sat in Rick Warren’s church, in fact I was there when Obama and McCain both gave the same answer on gay marriage – not fun – but I would NEVER be “filled with glee” of Mr. Warren’s sadness at this event. Mr. Warren not supporting gay rights is one thing. If his son happens to turn out to be gay – that is so very sad and it happens every day in America – Mr. Warren just happens to be more high profile. But would I be happy about this news? NO! And any gay people who are – sick. Seriously ANYONE who is using this to promote some sort of political agenda on EITHER side is sick and honestly – you all will have to answer for that one day. THE BOTTOM LINE: TREAT EVERYONE WITH KINDESS. I urge the gay community to do so even during something like this. And I have often said the same to the religious community who do not treat gays well. It goes against their teachings in religion. You have to be inhuman, even though Mr. Warren did not support gay rights, to not have some even a small percentage of compassion for Mr. Warren or anyone who loses a child because that child was gay and they did not support that stance. What’s interesting, I actually think Mr. Warren was coming around on this issue and I remind, our President didn’t actually support this issue either but I didn’t HATE the guy. Some of these posts make me sick people – someone is dead. You would be wise to pray for both the child AND the family. We are all in this together and I wish both gay and straights would act like it. I’m a gay guy who is praying for the Warren family today. And no — I don’t go to that church.

  • abnisk

    Terrible Tragedy. Depression is an illness – a physical problem. Too bad your religion tells you that he is now in hell. My faith tells me that he was a troubled man who is now at peace. Perhaps its time to decide what Jesus really would have thought about depression, gays, women etc etc, instead of what Rome has decided.

    Its my hope that the family finds peace and that this brings about serious reflection to the christians in the world about what Jesus really would have thought of the situation instead of the divisiveness that currently exists.

    • Kay

      actually I believe only the catholic church lists suicide as a “mortal sin”, a sin resulting in hell. Those sort of distinctions don’t exist in evangelicalism. If he put his faith in Christ, he is in heaven.

  • Rhonda

    I wish people would stop judging other people so much and worry about there own lives. Here people are now starting GOSSIP about if Matthew Warren was gay. STOP all the rumors!!! You don’t even know him. Let his family have some privacy and some peace and stop passing judgement on others lives when you don’t even know them! You should be praying for his family and giving them support, not bashing them or starting gossip! Look in the mirror and find out what you need to change about your life instead of being so concerned about other peoples lives so much. That is what is wrong with this world today and why so many people are so miserable and unhappy because everyone is out to judge and gossip about someone else’s life. Have compassion and empathy for others. Because you don’t know what someone else is going through in their life or within themselves. Pray for them!!

  • Jeff Coil

    I wonder if all these people (and those of you disgusting individuals posting vile comments below) are going to apologize if it:s revealed he wasn’t gay? I’m thinking: No. It is so much more fun to make assumptions and attack a Christian family when they are down. I thought you leftist were so much more caring than the rest of us.

  • Robert Kluver, Sr

    To you G’damned homosexuals who come on twitter and spew hate towards a man who just lost his son. You deserve Nothing. You are sub human and should crawl back into the hole of whence you came.

    … and F*ck you!

  • NatesMama

    Every time I read one of these heartless comments about Pastor Rick Warren’s son’s death I just want to shake them and make them realize that it doesn’t matter why and it doesn’t matter who, suicide is a horrific way to lose a loved one and no one deserves to go through that kind of searing, soul-deep pain. The mental torture of heart-wrenching loss combined with self-flagellation is staggering and breath-stealing. Be kind, people. Why on earth is that so hard to do? For shame.

  • Southern fried

    Funny how this has nothing to do with gay marriage and it has turned into a debate about gay marriage. Ridiculous

  • Southern fried

    take govt out of marriage and it ends this debate.

  • Southern fried

    The fact is the US constitution does not mention the word marriage. Therefore this was a right retained by the states and falls under the tenth amendment. Argue it at the state level. The federal government has no authority unless an amendment is passed. I know that the supreme court is arguing it right now. Which in my opinion is ridiculous. The 14th amendment is being abused. I mean why do we have separate states at all if we are all going to live by the same laws.

  • DizzyMissL

    So are the liberals saying that being gay is a mental disorder?

  • Gary

    One estimate has had the homosexual population at 3% yet every suicide is supposed to be a gay who has been bullied. After a while it just seems to stretch credibility. APA recognizes only one type of homosexuality as a mental health issue and that is those who are severely conflicted aout their homosexuality. Such information could severely limit dad’s culpability.

  • delew38

    The preacher Rick Warren is not homophobic he is word aphobic he believes what the word of God says. The word of God so straightly says that God is against this life style. Read Romans 1:23-32 and see for yourself what he thinks about this unnatural life style.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bill.aliff.7 Bill Aliff

    You people are going to bust hell wide open. Hurt souls “hurt” souls. It’s not too late. You need all the prayer you can get.

  • mamat

    Wow everyone wants to cast stones right who are we to judge any one. People are quick to blame the parents in this case ots the pastor instead of talking about him why not pray for him

  • Petra Albrecht

    It is sick that people think they have to behave like idiots and judge everything, probably they do not know anything about the situation but have to judge it anyhow, really disgusting. I pray god blesses and protects the family.

  • DANEgerus

    What a shame that Obama endorsement didn’t buy any empathy from the Leftist haters for Rick Warren

  • Hermione Volino

    How does any of these people know that his son was gay? All that was said was that he had mental illness and that he killed himself. Personally people just want to attack others and they think that it makes them feel good. And these people want us to accept them. Yeah, right.