As Twitchy reported, shots rang out this morning at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. Students and staff are being evacuated, and there are reports of injuries and fatalities. While most Twitterers are praying for the victims and for everyone’s safety, one ghoul just couldn’t resist turning this horrible event into a showcase for his political jackassery.

Execrable David “No Labels” Frum immediately seized the opportunity to use the shooting to score a few cheap laughs. All he accomplished was making a colossal idiot of himself. Twitterers were rightly disgusted:

https://twitter.com/SPambas/status/279618925170405377

https://twitter.com/adamsbaldwin/status/279634001990389760

Evidently not. What a loathsome creature.

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Update:

Media Matters senior fellow of jerkitude Eric Boehlert is also weighing in with his trademark ghoulishness:

What’s with the scare quotes, Eric?

He also retweeted this little pearl of wisdom:

Vile.

But not to be outdone, hacktastic gun control zealot Piers Morgan oh-so-tastefully inserted himself into the narrative:

What America needs is to keep our children safe, you fool.

Yes. Pray for the children, Piers. Quit politicizing every single tragedy in order to prop yourself up.

Unbelievable. Frum and Boehlert are certainly in illustrious company.

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Update:

Like a rabid vulture, Michael Moore has swooped in to pick at the tragedy.

Enough.

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Update:

More lefty celebrities are crawling out from under their rocks to pitch in with the ghoulish politicizing. Sickening.

Update:

‘Thinking’ man David Frum doubles down on the douchebaggery over Newtown tragedy

  • http://twitter.com/papertiguer papertiguer

    reckon Mr. Frum only sees children as abortion candidates

    • http://www.blrag.com/ skinnydipinacid

      To libs children = botched abortions or missed opportunities

      • Hearns-Jackson-Hagler-Jones

        And conservatives hate that the goverment helps those kids.

        • thetreyman

          no, we hate that their parents dont.

        • lainer51

          no we hate that the govt. FORCES us to help them…. we are the most charitable country in the world but that is not good enough for the bleeding heart libs!

    • Lord Foggybottom

      I don’t know about that, most of his professional peers are children…

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

        Or adults with childlike minds.

    • Lord Foggybottom

      I don’t know about that, most of his professional peers are children…

    • $21367552

      Fantastic and classic twitchy comment. Lefty says something you find ghoulish and disgusting so be sure to say something even more disgusting in retaliation.

      • $21367552

        And then have your little friends join in the circle jerk of who can be the biggest nutjob of them all.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

          Friends (plural) who can be the biggest nutjob (singular)? What does that even mean?

          • Ricci Logan

            diakonon will have to get back to you after he consults with micheal moore, peirs and the others loons on the left

        • lainer51

          funny you would use the term circle jerk – brings to mind a disgusting picture – Pelosi, Reid, What’s-her-face Schultz, F. Chuck Todd, Mika, Durbin, Kerry, Kennedy, Rangel, Bubba…. still have an appetite left?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

        What disgusting comment was made in the article above? Was it the one about not politicizing tragedy?

      • Fred Zanfardino

        How is it is disgusting to point out the hypocrisy in libs “worldview” especially when they slander us first?

      • Fred Zanfardino

        How is it is disgusting to point out the hypocrisy in libs “worldview” especially when they slander us first?

      • lainer51

        that’s the way the game is played… why are you even commenting if you can’t take the heat???

  • therantinggeek

    “Obviously, we need to lower the age limit for concealed carry so toddlers can defend themselves.”

    *facepalm*

  • tomyj1

    I need more duct tape to fix this simple ST*P*D.

  • http://twitter.com/who_me_too RadicalRebelWhoMeToo

    @davidfrum Unfortunate Holder didn’t supply that group of children murdered in Mexico, w/ guns too. They could have fought back. #FastAndFurious #moron

  • Johnny Blade

    Hey Dave good thing they all had school provided condoms huh?

    • Jim Denney

      Remember though, after Johnny meets Jack at a mandatory LGBT school dance they won’t need condoms any more. And the “teachers” will be proud….

      • Johnny Blade

        I thought that exploring a ‘viable alternative lifestyle choice’ was the reason they were handing out condoms.. you know how curious those gradeschoolers are.. Oo (it would be funny if not so nauseating)

      • Johnny Blade

        I thought that exploring a ‘viable alternative lifestyle choice’ was the reason they were handing out condoms.. you know how curious those gradeschoolers are.. Oo (it would be funny if not so nauseating)

  • TocksNedlog

    Blame Canada.

    • http://www.facebook.com/brian.mouland.908 Brian Mouland

      Hey I am a Canadian we dont want this guy

  • Red Fred

    Frum you are a despicable idiot.

    • Juvenal451

      Ambergirl, you are obstinately literal-minded.

  • disqus_eZC5C8Xhwf

    Once a moron always a moron!!1

  • TocksNedlog

    Once again, Frum does what he’s best at: trolling for attention. This man’s progressive slide since leaving the Bush White House has been a truly disheartening thing to observe.

    • LochGates44

      It’s not even a slide. He was always a liberal. His time with President Bush was just a job.

    • LochGates44

      It’s not even a slide. He was always a liberal. His time with President Bush was just a job.

  • http://www.jackiewellfonder.com/ Jackie Wellfonder

    Disgusting….

  • Lord Foggybottom

    I hate people.

  • walterc

    I don’t know about toddlers having concealed carry, but gun safety education starting in kindergarten and every age thereafter is a good idea. Could have them on the firing range in Jr high learning to handle and shoot safely. Ever notice that these shooting always take place in “Gun Free Zones”? Why is that?

    • http://twitter.com/Trents289 Trent Schroetlin

      Many schools used to teach a Hunters safety course in school. It would be a good idea to bring it back.

      • http://twitter.com/MDMorris_1707 Michael Morris

        My Mother was in the rifle club at school. They definitely need to bring it back.

      • http://twitter.com/MDMorris_1707 Michael Morris

        My Mother was in the rifle club at school. They definitely need to bring it back.

    • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

      I took gun/hunting safety in 7th grade.

    • http://twitter.com/Trents289 Trent Schroetlin

      No shooting at my kids school. Oh wait the teacher is armed they are home schooled.

      • bobbymike34

        Great comment!! Ya I wouldn’t want to come into my home school the teachers are armed luv it!

      • Finrod Felagund

        These bozos need to be REPEATEDLY asked about this story, also from today, where a man in China attacked 22 kids in a school, with a KNIFE:

        http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-14/knife-wielding-man-injures-22-children-in-china/4428958

        • Juvenal451

          And none died.

          • Finrod Felagund

            You don’t know that, you’re just making crap up.

          • revspyro
          • Juvenal451

            Enlighten me.

          • Juvenal451

            Enlighten me.

          • ozconservative

            Yeah, I’m sure the guy who did it was careful to ensure none of the victims died

          • Juvenal451

            Actually, I looked it up. There were a whole bunch, 8 or 10, school attacks in China. Knives were the weapon of choice. In about half the incidents, nobody died, which is what I was thinking. In the rest, there were fatalities. The grand totals for all incidents were 20 dead and 90 injured.

          • George Washington Mclintock

            Yeah, and if the teachers had guns nobody would have died today, or any other of these other school shootings. And if the teachers had guns in China, there would have been ZERO fatalities.

          • Dan Edmonds

            You are a fucking idiot.

          • George Washington Mclintock

            If you have a better method to protect women and children from violent criminals than rapidly killing that them from a distance, please don’t keep it yourself. Lot’s of people would be interested in your solution.

          • George Washington Mclintock

            If you have a better method to protect women and children from violent criminals than rapidly killing that them from a distance, please don’t keep it yourself. Lot’s of people would be interested in your solution.

          • TocksNedlog

            Sure, they’re all feeling fine, and none of them will be scarred for life. All good.

          • Juvenal451

            Your words.

          • Juvenal451

            You may be right. Large capacity magazines for all? Is a Hellfire missle okay for everyday carry?

          • V the K

            If you don’t like guns, don’t own one. But don’t take away my Constitutional Right to one.

          • Juvenal451

            I am a gun owner and I might even join the NRA if there were any real threat against our 2nd Amendment rights. However, I don’t think Hellfire missles should approved for everyday carry and I question whether assault rifles should have unlimited capacity magazines. What is your suggestion about school shootings?

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Maybe should learn a bit more about the 2nd, since your post makes it abundantly clear you don’t know what you’re talking about.

          • Juvenal451

            I am unclear that I own guns? Unclear that military weapons are MOSTLY already banned (sorry,too subtle for you)?

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Too subtle? Don’t flatter yourself.

            No, it’s more like too stupid, what with your mention of Hellfire missiles and unlimited capacity magazines.

          • Juvenal451

            It’s a short amendment…tell me in one sentence what I’m getting wrong.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            And I should bother explaining things to a (poorly-played) concern troll, why?

          • Juvenal451

            So arguments you don’t agree with make me a troll? I guess that’s all you’ve got.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            No, arguments without any basis in reality make you a troll. Too subtle for you, I suppose.

          • Juvenal451

            I told you I have guns, and that I rely on my 2nd Amendment right to have them. I have been trying all day to have you tell me what about the 2nd Amendment guarantees your and my right to “keep and bear” shoulder weapons substantially identical to those used by the military. In other words, why does the Assault Weapons Ban offend you and, in your opinion, violate the 2nd Amendment, when you are not bitching about not being able to own Hellfire missles, RPG’s, nukes–the whole gamut. It’s called REASONING. Try it…

          • mike_in_kosovo

            I told you I have guns, and that I rely on my 2nd Amendment right to have them.

            And you think that your ownership of weapons has any bearing on the conversation, why?

            I have been trying all day to have you tell me what about the 2nd Amendment guarantees your and my right to “keep and bear” shoulder weapons substantially identical to those used by the military.

            And the fact that you’re asking me that question proves my point that you know little or nothing about the reasons for the 2nd Amendment.

            In other words, why does the Assault Weapons Ban offend you and, in your opinion, violate the 2nd Amendment, when you are not bitching about not being able to own Hellfire missles, RPG’s, nukes–the whole gamut.

            I must’ve missed where I was ‘bitching about not being able to own Hellfire missles, RPG’s, nukes – the whole gamut’. Of course, that *also* proves my point, both about your lack of knowledge/understanding of the 2nd and the (poorly played) concern troll.

            It’s called REASONING. Try it…

            You first…once you figure out what the word means, that is.

          • Juvenal451

            Obviously, it means I do not support confiscation of guns ala Australia or a Consitutional amendment repealing the 2nd amendment. I have pointed out that there already is control of “arms” because as a matter of fact it is not possible to “keep and bear” any and all existing weapons systems. Thus there is a line. Earlier in this thread, you commented that I must not know anything about the 2nd amendment because I asked the simple question whether high cacacity magazines should be on one side of that line or the other. I asked you to explain your thinking, and you have not.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Obviously, it means I do not support confiscation of guns ala Australia or a Consitutional amendment repealing the 2nd amendment.

            Obviously? Hardly, since this is the *FIRST* mention you’ve made of it. Regardless, I’m *sure* you’re aware of the various confiscation that *have* occurred in the US, such as non-grandfathered “assault weapons” in CA and CT, among others.

            And yet, here you are saying there’s “no threat” to the 2nd. Guess it’s because they haven’t come after *your* favorites, yet.

            I have pointed out that there already is control of “arms” because as a matter of fact it is not possible to “keep and bear” any and all existing weapons systems. Thus there is a line.

            Hopefully there’s a line in your esophagus. Every time you *attempt* to make a point with your idiotic Hellfire missile quip, you push your foot further down your throat. Might want to stop at some point.

            Earlier in this thread, you commented that I must not know anything about the 2nd amendment because I asked the simple question whether high cacacity magazines should be on one side of that line or the other.

            Why do you think that the 11th round in a magazine is somehow more deadly than the 10th?

            Why do you feel that police, who have partners and backup officers to face criminals, have a greater need for ammunition than a homeowner that has only himself to rely on?

            You keep proving that you really don’t know all that much about the reasoning behind the 2nd and the resistance to even MORE infringements on it every time you post.

        • revspyro

          Yet not a one died. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Only by luck – knife wounds tend to be deadlier than gunshot wounds, taken on average.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Only by luck – knife wounds tend to be deadlier than gunshot wounds, taken on average.

          • orringtonmom (D)

            and thank God for that. if you can guarantee that every wound from knife attacks from this point in history everywhere would result this way, i’ll listen to your anti-gun rabble. can you do that? can you swear that knives don’t kill and never will?

          • Matt Thrift

            and there was a shooting in bangkok recently over a gangnum style dance off..15 shots, no injuries..hmmmmmmmmmmm

      • J_Stuart_Mill

        Like.

        • thetreyman

          you dont have to comment “like”, that is what the up arrow is for. 😉

          • Grumpa Grumpus

            @thetreyman:
            The Droid app for Twitchy doesn’t have “up” or “down” arrows.

            Nor does it place responses in a “sub-tree” so that a person can tell when a comment is a response to a previous comment–
            which is why I try to always put “@person’s handle” when I’m responding to another person’s comment.

            I’d even go so far as to quote relevant parts of the comment I’m responding to, except that “select, cut/copy” is beyond arduous in Twitchy’s forum app, and with my knarled(sp?) hands it’s almost impossible!

            I’m using a Droid Incredible, but I’ve tried using the App on a Droid Tablet (sorry, I don’t know what flavor of Android it was…) and the Twitchy Forum app us no easier to use there.

            I use it at all only because it is marginally better than a web browser, but that seems to be the standard we’re operating under— since the only “update” in the last six months has been to change the app’s icon.

            Well, I guess I’ve vented my spleen enough for now.

      • Jason Hunt

        “Oh wait the teacher is armed they are home schooled.”

        LIKE!!

    • Tom Bannigan

      If you gave kids guns, pedobears would be crying on capital hill for gun control.

      • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

        AKA: the tweets above from Frum, Boehlert, Morgan and Fatass from Flint.

    • Grumpa Grumpus

      @walterc:
      Why always in “gun free” zones?
      Multiple choice:
      • Well, “guns” are what they have on battleships. I’m certain you’ll not find a 16″-er within five miles of the school. Notice the sign doesn’t say “firearm free zone”, or “short-arm free zone” or even “deadly weapon free zone”. Note that wkth the level of language comprehension taught at today’s schools, most (incl.many of the teachers) would understand that to mean that obamarifles were being dispensed in the area.

      • because the Federation-brand forcefield unstalled in the sign that transports firearms into a transporter holding buffer until the owner leaves the vicinity of the sign is malfunctioning. It’s a Klingon Plot. Why they don’t waterboard The First Klingon to get the details I can’t explain.

      • knowing that “drug free zones” don’t work— a fact Progressives use as an argument to legalize recreational drugs— , they modeled “gun free zones” to provide targets for crazies and propaganda-fodder for circumventing the 2nd Amendment.

      Your choice, but mine is the last one.

    • conservativechick

      The guns belonged to the teacher, the boy’s Mom and were taken form her home. Sounds like defense against maybe domestic violence? We will learn more from the killer’s brother about their family life. (parents divorced living in separate states) I blame video games for the lack of reality in these situations, too.

      • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

        Another question, was this scum, like so many of the others, on Ritalin or another school prescribed drug in his life?

        • Beth

          There is no evidence to suggest that Ritalin causes violent behavior. On the other hand, people with untreated ADHD are overrepresented in the prison population,.as well as amongst drug users.

          • cajun_2

            There are many mentally ill individuals in prison due to their “actions”. The reason is because it is now illegal to institutionalize a mentally ill person without their “consent”…Interesting that a person out of touch with reality is the only one capable of making decisions about himself. The reason for changes in mental health issues is because liberals, since the 60’s, did not believe that hospital was the answer of “self image” of the ill. They didnt want them to not feel “normal”. 50% of homeless are mentally ill, 50% of homeless committ violent crimes. But we dont want them to feel bad about themselves . Lauhdner, Holmes,,and other mass killers all showed signs of severe mental illness but lets not categorize these people …lets just take guns away from every citizen so the crazies are not tempted. Typical liberal thinking. Never blame the victim and always have a solution that does not actually address the real problem.

          • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

            Is there a lot of data on this?

      • Teresa Davis McCormick

        I blame Hollywood and the lack of family values.

  • OrionElectra

    I thought Frum was a conservative though. That comment was the kind of insensitive, snarky thing a liberal would say.

    • Joe W.

      If David Frum is a conservative, then I am the Pope.

    • Joe W.

      If David Frum is a conservative, then I am the Pope.

  • http://www.righthook38.com righthook38

    What a piece of trash….

  • Brian

    David, what are the chances that you are an idiot. God forbid one of your children got killed. Thinking before speaking actually works, you should try it !!!

  • Cynthia Ingraham

    Just another lib turd.

    • CentralScruntinizer

      Nothing like the deep intellectual output of the South Carolina education system.

    • CentralScruntinizer

      Nothing like the deep intellectual output of the South Carolina education system.

  • auntybrat

    David Frum’s mother would be sooooooo proud! NOT…

  • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

    David Frum children being murdered in an elementary school isn’t about you, and your bottom feeding “neediness” for attention ho’ering.

  • bluewaternavy

    Frum is a dirtbag. As with moist liberals, he will dance on the graves of victims to make his “point” As for the victims, he looks on them as an object-not human lives.

  • bluewaternavy

    Frum is a dirtbag. As with moist liberals, he will dance on the graves of victims to make his “point” As for the victims, he looks on them as an object-not human lives.

  • Randy C. Lindsey

    Frum is in need of a good ass whuppin’. Anything for a laugh, right, you little punk?

  • Randy C. Lindsey

    Frum is in need of a good ass whuppin’. Anything for a laugh, right, you little punk?

  • Janna

    Again, this is why twitter is the worst. Always tacky, below the belt and completely insensitive. Enough already. These are not things to make callous jokes about.

    • robcrawford2

      Yes; twitter is to thought and wisdom what a sledgehammer is to an egg.

  • Janna

    Again, this is why twitter is the worst. Always tacky, below the belt and completely insensitive. Enough already. These are not things to make callous jokes about.

  • krang

    Try to think slightly harder than normal here, guys. Do you really think he was “mocking the victims”? He was making fun of the fact that gun advocates think that the answer to gun violence is to have most people carry guns with them.

  • krang

    Try to think slightly harder than normal here, guys. Do you really think he was “mocking the victims”? He was making fun of the fact that gun advocates think that the answer to gun violence is to have most people carry guns with them.

  • SFerggie

    Hay @piersmorgan guns are illegal to own in Mexico. How is that working out you stupid POS?

    • bluewaternavy

      Just fine-only the badguys have them. The innocent are screwed.

      • Maxwell

        Or people just commit mass murder using molotov cocktails or other homemade bombs.

        • AZcommenter

          Exactly. The single U.S. school killings with the most fatalities (45, IIRC) was accomplished years ago by some nut who planted bombs. A lunatic who wants to commit mass murder will find a way, no matter how many gun laws we pass.

          • ZiggyBob

            … did he get the bombs from Bill Aires?

      • robcrawford2

        Criminals and the well-connected.

      • ZiggyBob

        …and Eric Holder is sending the guns to them (AKA Fast & Furious)

  • SFerggie

    Hay @piersmorgan guns are illegal to own in Mexico. How is that working out you stupid POS?

  • http://twitter.com/who_me_too RadicalRebelWhoMeToo

    .@piersmorgan -To bad the school shooter in Omaha, NE @ Millard South HS got his gun from his Police Officer father. #YouAreAMoron #FingFool

  • BeyondPolls

    If schools weren’t gun free zones, then the teachers and school workers could defend the kids.
    Better yet, if we didn’t have public schools at all, this stuff wouldn’t happen.

  • Maxwell

    Disgusting! This is a tragedy it’s being politicized (right word?) Children are dead, many more traumatized, and all Piers Morgan can do is further his anti-gun agenda.

  • Guest

    Watch the hypocrisy from the left as they use a tragedy to scream GUN CONTROL but in the same breath FREE ABORTIONS FOR EVERYONE!!!

  • http://twitter.com/who_me_too RadicalRebelWhoMeToo

    Oh Look! Media WHORES politicize tragedy I==> .@piersmorgan .@EricBoehlert .@davidfrum #HowUnexpected #MakingAMockeryOfMassMurder #SandyHook

  • Super 88

    The existing gun laws in Connecticut did nothing to stop this tragedy. So, in order to prevent such a thing from happening again, we need to…pass more gun laws? :/

  • JimmyJusticeUSA

    is this any more insensitive than people claiming that more guns would have stopped the Aurora shooting? messed up people will always find a way to kill others no matter the lack or abundance of weapons. Using a tragedy to further a political cause is sick on both sides.

    • Blake Waymire

      I don’t remember anyone immediately claiming more firearms would have stopped the Aurora shooter. Just claiming in response to the gun grabbers that someone with a firearm in that theater very well might have killed that maniac before he could kill someone else.

  • http://twitter.com/TheAngieNC2 Angie (D)

    All you people who didn’t vote for Romney (including those who voted 3rd party or stayed home), I hope you aren’t attached to your guns — Obama said point blank at the 2nd debate he wanted federal anti-gun laws. It’s coming.

  • http://twitter.com/anabrahamguy Stephen Dee

    Sure, another gun law would’ve stopped this guy.
    Please.

    • NRPax

      That’s pretty much the core of the gun control argument: “If we make things more and more illegal, suddenly criminals will start behaving.”

      It sounds great as long as you don’t live in the real world.

      • WisconsinPatriot

        “It sounds great as long as you don’t live in the real world.”

        That sums up 99.9999% of liberal theory.

        • TexSizzle

          What’s the other .0001%?

          • WisconsinPatriot

            Non-theoretical blatant falsehood.

    • Hearns-Jackson-Hagler-Jones

      At least they are trying your side seems think oh well it happens.

      • TexSizzle

        They are trying what? If they would enforce the so-called gun-control laws already on the books, it might cut down ever so slightly on crimes involving firearms. OTOH, states with concealed-carry are much less likely to have this type of attack, except in “gun-free” zones, because the criminals never know who might shoot back.

  • v1cious

    So tell me why guys: When IS the right time to talk about gun control? You guys are just hoping everyone will just mourn the victims and move on. Sorry but you’re not gonna stall this one out, this is the last straw for a lot of people.

    • NRPax

      So what is your argument then? Should all legal purchases of guns now be made illegal? Should all guns be taken away and destroyed “for the children”? Or better yet: Please explain what law would have possibly prevented this from happening.

      It’s not a question of “stalling anything out.” It’s just that our first reaction to a crime like this isn’t openly wondering how we can create new laws to take away individual rights.

    • Steve_J

      Do you think guns are going to disappear? They haven’t in Chicago.

    • Finrod Felagund

      The right time to talk about gun control is the same time as the right time to talk about speech control. Both are protected by the Constitution, numbskull.

    • TexSizzle

      When statistics come out showing that the places with the places with the strictest gun-control laws have the highestincidences of firearms violence, demonstrating the utter failure of these laws to do what they are intended to do.

  • crimsonspark

    If only schools were gun free zones,that would stop these shootings…oh wait it doesn’t. I guess the answer now is to have tighter restrictions in school. See how easy it is to be an a**hole Frum?

  • http://www.toprightnews.com John Urban

    How many more innocents have to be slaughtered before we BAN “gun-free zones” in the United States?

    Columbine: 15
    Virginia Tech: 33
    Aurora, CO: 12
    Newtown, CT: 27

    (I’m sure I missed a bunch)

    Every one of the above locations banned the possession of firearms – leaving the victims defenseless from perpetrators who don’t care a whit what about laws. Had enough of liberal policies, America?

    • Grumpa Grumpus

      @Stand With Arizona:
      Oh.
      Legalize recreational drugs — which kill more daily than your tally…

      Because, you know: “banning something doesn’t work! Those that want them will get them!”

      But ban guns, because that will work?

      I’m 96yrs old. As they’ve restricted firearms the number if these shootings has skyrocketed, why is that?

      The phenomena tracks exceedingly closely with the infiltration rate and areas of concentration of Progressivism. As Progressivism has pervaded the popular culture so has the inhumanity of the culture increased.

      Perhaps what needs to be outlawed is Progressivism, a philosophy that contends that people are material to be spent in pursuit of the Elite’s ambitions. That Truth is relative to what the Elites decide the consensus worldview should be. That people are the same as other animals— indeed that people are animals!

      By denying the divine aspects of human nature you starve them. One they die of neglect people do devolve into animals— and the escalation of beatings and killings is what is reaped from these seeds Progressives’ sown!

      Nope. The wisdom of the Founding Fathers has been proven the world over, and during almost every generation.

      And, by the way:
      If the lives if children are so important to you, why allow so many to be killed in the 3rd trimester, 2nd trimester, and even when viable in the 1st trimester?

      Why do you use “red herring” arguments.

      Just tell us the real reason you want to violate the Constitution. Then we can discuss this without you trying to guile or guilt us with phony reason— you know, like adults.

      • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

        Yes, but everyone marginalizes the ‘legal, prescription’ drugs that seem to create WORSE situations than any controlled substance seems to.

    • Grumpa Grumpus

      @Stand With Arizona:
      I just got an email that gave me the text of your post #54.

      I’m sorry, although I hit you with it, my response was meant for one of the gun control nuts.

      I apparently scrolled too far and what I read wasn’t your post.

      I stand by the content of what I said, but please just pass it to one of those nice deserving ObamaZombies!

      Thank you! And again, I’m sorry you received friendly fire!

  • Michelle

    People who scream for more gun control are part of the problem, not the solution. Guns were around when I was in school (70’s and 80’s) and this never happened, we were a different society back then and even a better society before that. There is something VERY wrong with the morals in this country – THAT is the problem, not the weapon. As long as these folks continue to relentlessly focus on the gun and not WHY people are going insane, this will never stop happening, they’ll simply choose different weapons. Tim McVeigh killed 168 people, 19 of them children, without using a single bullet. A parent shoots their children, and they scream for gun control – Andrea Yates killed all five of her children without using a gun. The problem is MENTAL HEALTH, not weapons.

    • torpedoman2002

      I agree 100% but will the left listen? No they have wanted to disarm America since we went to school and before but they didn’t have a reason. Now with the number of sick people wanting to die and wanting to take as many people with them as
      possible, the left now have their reason. They see the light at the end of the tunnel
      for gun control and they are drooling all over themselves to make it happen.
      It’s pathetic! If this happens what happens next? Do we make run first laws?
      Are we going to be like England and have to huddle in a corner of our own
      houses because it will be illegal to defend ourselves? I want the left to live
      in England for 5 years. Not in any place but in the heaviest crime ridden
      places and see if gun control is the way to go.

  • Scott

    Free mental health! Now that is the left answer, free everything except FREEDOM is their answer to most anything. These idiots cant or wont get a decent idea if someone gave it to them for FREE. More gun control laws will not help stop these tragedies as most rational people know. You cant predict when something like this will happen or who may commit these crimes. I only hope that maybe one day someone will stick a gun in some of these LIBTARDS ear and ask them how they feel about not being able to defend themselves or a loved one (if they love anyone besides themselves). Our prayers go out to the victims of this horrendous tragedy.

  • Steve_J

    Those assholes, Moore, Morgan, Frum, etc. all live in isolated cocoons. To them life for the rest us is just an abstract for them.. BTW, what kind of gun laws does Conneticut have?

  • barney59

    The left only care about themselves and their utopian fantasies.

  • Karl Winrich

    Gun control, gun control…we need more gun control…BS…what we need is more gun education and discipline. Parents need to step up and be parents and teach their children how to properly handle dangerous tools. Because in the end all that’s all a gun is, a tool.

  • Steve_J

    “The worst mass school murder in American history took place on May 18,1927 in Bath Township, Mich., when a former school board member set off three bombs that killed 45 people.” From CBSNewYork.com
    ——————————–
    I notice guns are not mentioned.

  • wolfie773

    I’m sure MORE gun control laws would make Piers and friends feel great. They are also a useless antidote to violence. Chicago has very restrictive gun control laws. They don’t do anything but make liberals feel better about themselves.

  • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

    Folks, get ready for the gun grabbers to feel emboldened; stronger than we’ve ever seen. Start sending contributions to these families, for sure. But send money to the NRA, and make sure you get prepared.

    Those poor kids. All because some coward gets the upper hand. And the left sees his violence, but not their own encouragement of violence.

  • Steve_J

    What kind of upbringing did this clown get? Didn’t his parents instill a sense of right and wrong in him when he was growing up?

  • Brian P.

    The same lefties who sanction anyone to indiscriminately murder a child in womb care about children’s lives? The same left that forces people to buy light bulbs with 5 times the safe level of mercury in each one cares about people being harmed? The same leftists that suggest we should be more concerned with hurting the feelings of radial Islamist murderers hell bent on slaughtering us instead of defending ourselves care about lives being lost? Bullcrap!!!!!
    They’re just using this horrible event to exploit emotions and push a political agenda. People are nothing but political pawns to leftitsts. Agenda trumps everything else.

    Sell your bs somewhere else. I’m not buying it.

  • robcrawford2

    Why does Piers Morgan need a device that only serves to shoot off his mouth?

  • Typewriterstreaming

    Hey Piers, et al, should China confiscate all the knives? today on Reuters: Knife-wielding man injures 22 children in China.

  • michael s

    What a horrendous act of terror to the27 killed and others wounded. Ryan lanza was a domestic terrorist in my opinion. I was on inagist.com and immediately he was identified as a Republican. I want the focus on this vile person, not the Republican party.

    • http://politicalknow.blogspot.com/ SheerPolitics

      Every time they do that, it turns out to be some leftist moron. When that’s found out the media focuses on something else.

  • BK432

    So let’s see….liberals want to fix the problem via conversation, policy and possible law changes. Conservatives want to fix the problem with….prayers and MORE guns?!? I think I know which way I’m leaning….more gun control NOW.

    • mike_in_kosovo

      Just how did your vaunted ‘gun control’ prevent the tragedy at Sandy Hook, BK?

    • Grumpa Grumpus

      @BK432:
      yes, b/c that’s worked so well for recreational drug use— and firearms up to this point, right?

      Yes, let’s keep doing the same thing over & over again… it’ll work this time, right?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1305030431 Anna Klitzing

    The focus on prevention needs to be targeted at the flawed mental health treatment in this country and lack of education and thus stigmas surrrounding it. Getting treatment for these issues isn’t something to be ashamed of, it’s just like getting treatment for any other illness. Guns are just the wrong road to go down here — we are completely misguided.

    • GTFOBigGovt

      Mental health treatment is here and available in this country. Democrats set the mentally ill free from confinement with “rights” decades ago. A schizophrenic doesn’t have to take their meds, for example. Although you can get someone committed if you go to the effort of proving danger.

      Meanwhile, families, teachers, PSYCHIATRISTS, and associates knew that most of these guys were mental or dangerous and did nothing. We don’t know about the Oregon guy yet. (interesting they all are young males, guaranteed gamers I bet).

      This applies to the Gifford shooting, Columbine, and the movie shooter who’s psychiatrist hid the facts behind patient doctor privilege.

      I’m betting we find it’s the same with this guy IF he acted alone. The other dead person with the mother hasn’t been identified.

      Meanwhile in China, a guy killed 22 schoolchildren with a knife.

      • GTFOBigGovt

        Update. Guns owned by and registered to the dead mother, a TEACHER. With the son who killed her being described by his brother as having mental problems.

        I called it 3 hours ago.

  • http://www.redstateeclectic.com AngelaTC

    Won’t somebody please send Piers Morgan back already?

  • http://politicalknow.blogspot.com/ SheerPolitics

    Forget the fiscal cliff–the world’s going off the sanity cliff!

  • http://twitter.com/TimSweeney66 Tim Sweeney

    You seem lost and confused today, Twitchy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Thomas-Collins/100000220517250 Thomas Collins

    To liberals, children are “human resources”.

  • J_Stuart_Mill
  • J_Stuart_Mill

    Amazing how Switzerland has more guns than the USA and a lower Homicide Rate than the blessed UK. Pierced Organ indeed….

  • Juvenal451

    Posters to this site are no strangers to sarcasm. Frum’s comment was clearly sarcastic, and bitterly so.

  • rivers

    David Frum, you are one colossal a$$hole. Take your sorry, sickening self back to Canada where you belong, you sick, self-serving p*ick.

  • Clue

    Pro life people warned long ago that abortion would lead to a devaluing of all life. Slippery slope stuff. And then people made fun of them and told them how out of step they were. When you read the lib comments, makes you believe they were onto something!

  • salvagesalvage

    I wonder even if this sort of thing happened once a week you idiots would give your lunacy some thought.

    Nah, dead children are a small price to pay for the feeling of power you get from your guns.

    • Lyle E Long

      when guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns. Gun control has been proven to only generate more crime. Ever here of Chicago?

      • salvagesalvage

        Yeah, looks great on bumper sticker but in reality? Ever here of Canada, Europe, Australia and every other Western nation with sensible gun laws?

        I know as a wingnut you are immune to facts but they still remain facts.

        • mike_in_kosovo

          Speaking of immune to facts, I couldn’t help buy notice your lack of response to Lyle’s question about Chicago – planning on answering that?

          • salvagesalvage

            CHICAGOLAND! CHICAGOLAND! CHICAGOLAND! Always my favorite Drudge headline. I love how wingnuts think that’s the answer to everything. Iraq is going badly. OH YEAH?!?! WHAT ABOUT CHICAGO!! HUH? HUH?

            I did answer it wingnut by pointing out a whole bunch of places with sensible gun control don’t have weekly mass shootings. I know, I know, they’re all horrifically oppressed by their tyranical governments, America is the only free land in the world because its citizens can arm themselves like militias no matter how nuts.

            And by the way, Frum’s point was a mocking you idiots not the victims, how right now gun loving morons are blithering about how if the school had more guns there wouldn’t have been any shooting! That if everyone had a gun there would be no way anyone would get shot.

            Logic like that is hard to argue with.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            CHICAGOLAND! CHICAGOLAND! CHICAGOLAND!

            Yep…that place with all the gun control you libtards clamor for…and the crime rate and murders to prove the idiocy of the position…not that we needed any *more* proof of your idiocy, mind you.

          • salvagesalvage

            Wingnuts don’t need proof the same way fish don’t need snowballs.

            But the thing you don’t get is that Chicago, brace yourself, IT’S IN AMERICA. And in America there are a lot of guns or a few guns? So unless you have giant metal detectors on all the roads into the city gun control there doesn’t mean much does it?

            I know, I know, that’s logic, you probably don’t get it.

            But hey, guns are more important than children, those dead kids just took a hit for your liberty.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Wingnuts don’t need proof the same way fish don’t need snowballs.

            *STILL* with the lame attempts to ad-hom? Pitiful.

            But the thing you don’t get is that Chicago, brace yourself, IT’S IN AMERICA.

            And that has *what* to do with their draconian gun-control laws, sport?

            And in America there are a lot of guns or a few guns?

            How many legally-owned ones in your gun control paradise of Chicago, skippy? Given the murder stats, we can all see there’s plenty of *illegal* ones floating around.

            So unless you have giant metal detectors on all the roads into the city gun control there doesn’t mean much does it?

            If that’s the case, why are you saying more gun control is the answer?

            I know, I know, that’s logic, you probably don’t get it

            I’m sure you *THINK* it was logic. Unfortunately (for you) it was nothing of the sort.

            But hey, guns are more important than children, those dead kids just took a hit for your liberty

            But hey, gun control is more important than children, those dead kids just took a hit for your idiocy. Mind you wipe your shoes after you finish dancing in their blood, wouldn’t want to get any on your carpet.

          • salvagesalvage

            Ad-hom and mockery are all wingnuts deserve.

            Draconian gun control works in NATIONS that have it. See that is the point that you will not accept because it shows you to be wrong and wingnut cannot process wrong.

            Gun control isn’t the answer for America, it’s too late thanks to the NRA and the monsters that make military grade weapons for “home defense”. Your stuck with them, congrats! Your children will be gunned down time and time again, FREEEEEDOOOOM!

            Gun control would save children, see it’s hard to shoot people if you can’t get a gun easier than a car. I know, that makes sense and wingnut cannot comprehend. I know, I know if those kids had guns they would have shot the crazy man because more guns means less shooting! Fox and Rush said so!

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Draconian gun control works in NATIONS that have it

            Like in the UK, where gun crime increased 89% over the 1999-2009 decade? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223193/Culture-violence-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html

            See that is the point that you will not accept because it shows you to be wrong and wingnut cannot process wrong.

            Actually, that would be YOUR inability to process anything besides “gun ban GOOOD”.

            I’ve been sitting here wondering “Is this guy REALLY that stupid?” Thanks for providing unequivocal proof that yes, you really are.

          • salvagesalvage

            http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp

            http://www.economist.com/node/21559646

            Yes, the British tabloid press, why they never twist stats to suit their sensationalist style!

            It’s so cute the way wingnuts point the the MSM when it fits the narrative.

            It’s simple, less guns, less people being shot but I guess you’re even simpler.

            And yes, BANNING GUNS IS GOOD. Guns making killing EASY, I know you fancy yourselves a pack of Ramboes, you long for the day when some lunatic is shooting up a mall you’re in so can go all Die Hard James Bond and take down the tangos but the reality is a wee bit different.

            A morgue in a small town is full of children because of idiots like you and your bizarre fetish and male adolescent power fantasies.

            But don’t worry, it’s all too far gone, politicians will make noises but the NRA has written enough checks to ensure wingnuts can have as many guns as you need to feel secure.

            Which is quite clearly too many.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Yes, the British tabloid press, why they never twist stats to suit their sensationalist style!

            Info is backed up by the UK gov’t, actually. I’d say that’s a sight better than your decade-old, anecdotal snopes link.

          • salvagesalvage

            CAN YOU READ WINGNUTS?

            UPDATED JULY 2011

            CAN YOU READ WINGNUT?

            Once again wingnut presented with facts that don’t suit so wingnut pretends they are not so.

            When there are less guns there is less gun crime, it is hard to shoot people if you don’t have a gun.

            Are you wingnuts because you can’t understand naturally or do you choose? That is the question .

          • mike_in_kosovo

            CAN YOU READ WINGNUTS?

            No, evidently you can’t, since you keep bringing up a decade old internet anecdote as your ‘proof’.

            Once again wingnut presented with facts that don’t suit so wingnut pretends they are not so.

            True – you completely ignored the crime stats article for the UK that I posted, above.

            When there are less guns there is less gun crime, it is hard to shoot people if you don’t have a gun.

            Cause/effect fallacy. Like all weak intellects, you blame the tool used rather than the action of the user….rather like blaming the existence of spoons for Michael Moore being fat.

          • salvagesalvage

            So 10 years ago less guns meant less gun violence but that no longer is the case because…? Try shooting someone without a gun, let me know how that works out.

            And the Economist article? I know, I know that’s from the summer so long ago!

            It’s like your idiot master Hannity’s reaction to Romeny’s “47%” tape, that happened sooooo long ago, like months! That means it’s not true.

            WINGNUT MEET FACT SO WINGNUT PRETNED FACT NOT THERE.

            Guns make killing easy, they have no other use.

            SELF DEFENCE FOR WHEN THE NEGROES RISE UP!!!! CHICAGOLAND!!! DRUDGE SAID SO!!!

            Yeah, except people more often then not end up shooting the wrong person. Punch “accident” into Google news for proof of that.

            PROTECTION AGAINST TYRANNY!

            Yeah, revolution’s over, over 200 years now, time to move on.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Less guns have *never* meant less violence, you microcephalic twit.

            In point of fact (not that you’d recognize them if they reared up and slapped you in the face), violent crime rates go *down* when people have the means to effectively defend themselves. The only thing your bans do is put women, children and the elderly at the mercy of the young, strong and violent.

            The violent crime rate in the US in 2011 was 386.3/100k. For the UK, it was 3844.9/100k. I would say “you do the math”, but you’ve already proven yourself incapable.

          • salvagesalvage

            You really can’t read can you?

            Less guns means LESS GUN VIOLENCE. Not talking overall violence, are you being stupid on purpose or is this natural?

            Guns make it easy to kill people, it’s that simple.

            And really? Less crime huh? So by that logic America should be far more crime free than say Canada because they have far more guns. Is it?

            Oh.

            No.

            Huh.

            Could be you don’t know what you’re babbling about?

            Why can wingnuts ever been honest? Why can’t you just say you love guns because of the feeling of power they give you, how you dream of shooting someone and being the hero. No, you have to resort to complete nonsense to defend your fetish.

            I guess you didn’t bother to read the Economist article, I know, there are more words than pictures.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Less guns means LESS GUN VIOLENCE. Not talking overall violence, are you being stupid on purpose or is this natural?

            More defenseless victims means more overall violence – are you being stupid on purpose or is this natural?

            Wait…you’re a lib, so it’s both.

            And in your gun-free utopia of Chicago… 10 people were shot yesterday: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-shootings-violence-december-14-december-15-20121214,0,912168.story

            So, tell us how those gun bans are reducing gun violence, again?

            2011 crime stats (FBI UCR):
            DC: Violent crime: 1130.26/100k Murder: 17.47/100k
            Chicago: Violent crime: 1007.76/100k Murder: 15.94/100k

            National: Violent crime: 386.3/100k Murder: 4.7/100k

          • salvagesalvage

            CHICAGOLAND! Oh wingnuts, what would you do without Drudge and Fox to give you your talking points?

            Guns are easy to get in America, Chicago is where again?

            Guns are hard to get in the Uk / Canada / almost every other western nation and gun crime is down there.

            Gosh. I wonder is there a connection!?!?!?

            If people don’t have guns… then they… they CAN’T SHOOT ANYONE.

            No!

            Yes!

            It’s a fact you just can’t get around I’m afraid but being wingnuts that won’t stop you from trying.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Guns are easy to get in America, Chicago is where again?

            Guns are *NOT* easy to get in Chicago – maybe you should actually do some research before running your mouth and proving how little you actually know about the subject.

            Guns are hard to get in the Uk / Canada / almost every other western nation and gun crime is down there.

            Gun crime is down, after increasing by 85% in the 1999-2009 decade. Is it back down to what it was BEFORE the ban, pray tell? And just how did it *rise* over the decade, anyway? You keep telling us that those bans will prevent the crime from happening in the first place.

            Of course, violent crime is *still* through the roof:

            UK violent crimes (2010-2011): 2,157,000 (3844.92 per 100k)
            US violent crimes, 2011: 1,203,564 (386.3 per 100k)

            Hmmm… US has 44% *less* violent crime than the UK, one TENTH the violent crime per 100k, while having 4.5x the population and all those icky, icky guns.

            Gosh. I wonder is there a connection!?!?!?

            I’m unsurprised that you’re wondering that, you’ve already proven you can’t do the math to figure it out.

          • salvagesalvage
          • mike_in_kosovo

            Do they explain why the murder rate has fallen since the mid 90’s, even while gun ownership has boomed?

            You keep saying a ban will prevent gun crime… so how did gun crime rise in Merrye Olde after the ban, wingnut?

          • mike_in_kosovo

            To add some stats:

            From FBI UCR:
            Murders:
            2007: 14916
            2011:12664 (-15.1%)

            Firearms Murders:
            2007:10219
            2011: 8583 (-16.01%)

            Firearms sales (FBI NICS records)(2007-mid 2011): 57.9 *million*

            *HOW* could the overall number of murders and firearm murders go *DOWN* without your magic bans, wingnut?

            Could it just *possibly* be a criminal problem and not caused by the tool they used to commit their crime?

            Nah…*couldn’t* be that, right, wingnut? *HAS* to be the fault of the guns!

          • salvagesalvage

            CAN YOU READ?

            http://www.economist.com/node/21559646

            STOCKWELL, in south London, is famous for two things: Portuguese restaurants and gun crime. Last year, at the Asian-run Stockwell Food and Wine store, a five-year-old girl, Thusa Kamaleswaran, was shot and paralysed in a botched attack by the Brixton-based GAS gang (which stands for Guns and Shanks, or knives) on the Stockwell-based ABM gang (All ‘Bout Money). The shooters were three young men, who arrived on bicycles and fled the same way, leaving security camera images which shocked the nation.

            Mercifully, such tragedies are becoming rarer. The number of firearms offences recorded by police is at its lowest level this millennium. Last year 39 people died from gunshots, down from 96 a decade earlier. This is not just because of better medicine; the number of people entering hospital accident and emergency departments with gunshot wounds has also dropped, from 1,370 in 2003 to 972 last year.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            How was Thusa shot and paralyzed, wingut? How were 39 people killed by guns? Why were there 1370 gunshot wounds in 2003 and 972 last year, when the ban went into effect in 1997?

            You keep saying your magic gun bans prevent gun crime…so how did all this happen, wingnut?

          • salvagesalvage
          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            Please share how you suggest getting guns from gang members, drug dealers and other criminals after you’ve taken them away from legal gun owners. I would love to hear that and I’m sure law enforcement and the government would as well. Not to mention those in other countries.

          • salvagesalvage

            Oh you can’t they’ve benefited from the NRA’s lobbying for the last 20 years just as much as the gun-nuts, America is awash in guns and the bad guys are loaded. It’s too late, there is no way to have any gun control in America. Don’t get me wrong, you’ve won.

            Be proud!

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            So you have no solution just baseless accounts of what you think has happened. You have no idea about gun laws or the NRA or guns for that matter. I’ve never said I’ve won anything but please carry on with your nonsense I’m quite entertained.

          • salvagesalvage

            Ha! Ha! Yes! The NRA has nothing to do with all the guns in America! Nope, they never interfered when anyone tried to bring in even the slights of gun laws.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            Again, you have no idea about the subject you so desperately want to argue against. I also think you have a problem with reading comprehension.

          • salvagesalvage

            Can you read:

            Guns are in short supply. The National Ballistics Intelligence Service,
            which tracks guns through bullets and shell casings, reckons that the
            total number of illegal firearms in the country is no more than
            30,000-40,000, and the number in active use is far lower. Data from the
            Serious Organised Crime Agency suggests that clean guns (which have not
            been used) are getting more expensive, which probably means they are
            rarer. Even where guns are available, bullets are scarce, leading
            criminals to fashion their own from things like blanks and ball
            bearings.

            CAN YOU READ?

          • salvagesalvage

            Can you read?

            http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/res-rec/comp-eng.htm

            Firearm homicide rates are 8.1 times higher in the United States than in Canada. For 1987-96, the average firearm homicide rate was 5.7 per 100,000 in the U.S., compared to 0.7 per 100,000 for Canada.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            The most recent tragedies have happened in states with some of the strictest gun laws. Please state where you can get “military grade” weapons as a civilian. If you’re referencing “assault weapons” there isn’t such a thing, it’s a term that was coined by the media and politicians to enforce more gun control and cause hysteria. There is a difference between a semi-automatic rifle, that can only dispense one shell at a time after ejecting the spent casing, and automatic fire arms that will shoot as long as the trigger is pulled and there’s ammunition in the magazine.

          • salvagesalvage
          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            You have absolutely no clue do you? These guns are for long range gun purposes, as in competitive target shooting, and for those who are professional snipers not for “home defense”. You wouldn’t be able to set it up in time to use it for home defense. The second article you referenced is actually a good article, I read it long before you used it as a reference to support your argument. It tells the reader how to make the best decision when it comes to purchasing a gun for home defense. Also, you may want to do some research on what each type of rifle is used for, how long it takes to operate etc. Maybe then you could offer some intelligent arguments instead of just referencing an article that you think is going to make guns even more evil.

          • salvagesalvage

            CAN YOU READ WINGNUT?

            Choosing a Home-Defense Gun

            Determining the best home-defense firearm takes careful development of a self-defense plan.

            CAN YOU READ?

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            Can you offer an intelligent debate that doesn’t involve repeating the same “CAN YOU READ WINGNUT”? Name calling is a classic tactic used to deflect an argument or avoid a question. And apparently when you can’t comprehend what someone has written in response to your posts you ask “CAN YOU READ”? I might ask you the same thing.

          • salvagesalvage

            Wingnuts don’t need proof the same way fish don’t need snowballs.

            But the thing you don’t get is that Chicago, brace yourself, IT’S IN AMERICA. And in America there are a lot of guns or a few guns? So unless you have giant metal detectors on all the roads into the city gun control there doesn’t mean much does it?

            I know, I know, that’s logic, you probably don’t get it.

            But hey, guns are more important than children, those dead kids just took a hit for your liberty.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            CHICAGOLAND! CHICAGOLAND! CHICAGOLAND!

            Yep…that place with all the gun control you libtards clamor for…and the crime rate and murders to prove the idiocy of the position…not that we needed any *more* proof of your idiocy, mind you.

          • Lyle E Long

            you should actually do some research about these heavenly fairly lands with gun control rather than get your worldview from MSNBC or Peirs Morgan. I know facts are hard and reading is hards and stats are hard but truth doesn’t need argument only belief. Truth is hard too!

          • salvagesalvage

            Ha! Ha! I LIVE IN ONE OF THEM. And we don’t get MSNBC.

            Ah wingnuts, when they don’t like reality they demand that it isn’t so. Hey, how’d the Romney landslide work out for ya? They find Sadam’s WMD? Reagan never raised anyone’s taxes and he didn’t sell Iran any weapons!

            And on it goes, how easy it must be to be a wingnut, whenever something happens that you don’t want to happen it never happened!

          • salvagesalvage

            Ha! Ha! I LIVE IN ONE OF THEM. And we don’t get MSNBC.

            Ah wingnuts, when they don’t like reality they demand that it isn’t so. Hey, how’d the Romney landslide work out for ya? They find Sadam’s WMD? Reagan never raised anyone’s taxes and he didn’t sell Iran any weapons!

            And on it goes, how easy it must be to be a wingnut, whenever something happens that you don’t want to happen it never happened!

          • Lyle E Long

            you should actually do some research about these heavenly fairly lands with gun control rather than get your worldview from MSNBC or Peirs Morgan. I know facts are hard and reading is hards and stats are hard but truth doesn’t need argument only belief. Truth is hard too!

          • salvagesalvage

            CHICAGOLAND! CHICAGOLAND! CHICAGOLAND! Always my favorite Drudge headline. I love how wingnuts think that’s the answer to everything. Iraq is going badly. OH YEAH?!?! WHAT ABOUT CHICAGO!! HUH? HUH?

            I did answer it wingnut by pointing out a whole bunch of places with sensible gun control don’t have weekly mass shootings. I know, I know, they’re all horrifically oppressed by their tyranical governments, America is the only free land in the world because its citizens can arm themselves like militias no matter how nuts.

            And by the way, Frum’s point was a mocking you idiots not the victims, how right now gun loving morons are blithering about how if the school had more guns there wouldn’t have been any shooting! That if everyone had a gun there would be no way anyone would get shot.

            Logic like that is hard to argue with.

        • mike_in_kosovo

          Speaking of immune to facts, I couldn’t help buy notice your lack of response to Lyle’s question about Chicago – planning on answering that?

        • Lyle E Long

          better check your fact on Australia. After gun control their murders increased 3.2% and assualts increaded almost 7%.Armed robberies are up 44% in one year. In Victoria homicides with firearms are up 300%. Hope much more proof do you need? I’ll let you look up Chicago stats.

          • salvagesalvage

            Oh wingnut, do you ever stop wingnutting?

            http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp

            Now this link leads to a bunch of facts that show you how wrong you are, be sure not to read it and pretend like you never even were shown the possibility that you were wrong.

          • salvagesalvage

            Oh wingnut, do you ever stop wingnutting?

            http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp

            Now this link leads to a bunch of facts that show you how wrong you are, be sure not to read it and pretend like you never even were shown the possibility that you were wrong.

        • Lyle E Long

          better check your fact on Australia. After gun control their murders increased 3.2% and assualts increaded almost 7%.Armed robberies are up 44% in one year. In Victoria homicides with firearms are up 300%. Hope much more proof do you need? I’ll let you look up Chicago stats.

        • Lyle E Long

          The 31 states that have “shall issue” laws allowing private citizens to carry concealed weapons have, on average, a 24 percent lower violent crime rate, a 19 percent lower murder rate and a 39 percent lower robbery rate than states that forbid concealed weapons. In fact, the nine states with the lowest violent crime rates are all right-to-carry states. Remarkably, guns are used for self-defense more than 2 million times a year, three to five times the estimated number of violent crimes committed with guns. (CATO Institute)

          • salvagesalvage

            Once again you deeply silly person. NATIONS THAT HAVE SENSIBLE GUN LAWS HAVE LESS GUN VIOLENCE.

            Facts melon-farmer do you understand them?

          • salvagesalvage

            Once again you deeply silly person. NATIONS THAT HAVE SENSIBLE GUN LAWS HAVE LESS GUN VIOLENCE.

            Facts melon-farmer do you understand them?

        • Lyle E Long

          The 31 states that have “shall issue” laws allowing private citizens to carry concealed weapons have, on average, a 24 percent lower violent crime rate, a 19 percent lower murder rate and a 39 percent lower robbery rate than states that forbid concealed weapons. In fact, the nine states with the lowest violent crime rates are all right-to-carry states. Remarkably, guns are used for self-defense more than 2 million times a year, three to five times the estimated number of violent crimes committed with guns. (CATO Institute)

    • mike_in_kosovo

      Projecting, *again*?

  • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

    @piersmorgan Where’s all your outrage for Brian Terry and the 4 Americans in Benghazi? Look up ‘misplaced’, why don’t you, you #Dumbass

    .@MMFlint Where’s your fake outrage for Brian Terry and the 4 Americans in Benghazi? #Dumbass.

  • Lyle E Long

    A person with a gun for protection is a citizen and person without is a subject. I am and will always be a citizen

  • revspyro

    Wow – as distasteful as you all find this, bringing abortion cracks in to the fray is FAR classier. Kudos to you brave commentors hiding behind clever, made-up handles. You are all such sensitive adults in this time of crisis.

  • el_polacko

    what does it say about the state of our society that, at site after site today, the comment threads are filled with arguments over politics and guns rather than with expressions of compassion for those who are grieving over the loss of their loved ones ?

  • el_polacko

    what does it say about the state of our society that, at site after site today, the comment threads are filled with arguments over politics and guns rather than with expressions of compassion for those who are grieving over the loss of their loved ones ?

  • delroymonjo

    Again, the left ignores the victims and starts pointing fingers……
    I shed a tear.

  • delroymonjo

    Again, the left ignores the victims and starts pointing fingers……
    I shed a tear.

  • bigred75

    Hey Frum, your tweet only shows that toddlers have more maturity, judgement and responsibility than you, Morgan and Moore put together.

  • bigred75

    Hey Frum, your tweet only shows that toddlers have more maturity, judgement and responsibility than you, Morgan and Moore put together.

  • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

    “Why does any civilian in America need a weapon that can fire 100 rounds of ammunition at rapid speed? Give me ONE good reason?”

    Because of enablers like you, Piers, who think government solves all the worlds problems.

    Ever wonder why the angry radical immigrants troll the streets of tidy Britain without fear?

    Because when seconds count, the police are minutes away. And are they even armed?

    Cheers, old chap!

  • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

    “Why does any civilian in America need a weapon that can fire 100 rounds of ammunition at rapid speed? Give me ONE good reason?”

    Because of enablers like you, Piers, who think government solves all the worlds problems.

    Ever wonder why the angry radical immigrants troll the streets of tidy Britain without fear?

    Because when seconds count, the police are minutes away. And are they even armed?

    Cheers, old chap!

  • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

    ‘Only minutes away from pundits & politicians say, “This isn’t the
    time to talk about gun control.” Really? When is that moment?”

    How about when the latest crime stats come out for London, Chicago, DC and NYC?

  • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

    ‘Only minutes away from pundits & politicians say, “This isn’t the
    time to talk about gun control.” Really? When is that moment?”

    How about when the latest crime stats come out for London, Chicago, DC and NYC?

  • $2943864

    If you teach children that they are entitled to absolutely everything it should not be a surprise when they also think that includes other people’s lives. Yeah – there needs to be a change but based on the recent election I’m not optimistic.

  • $2943864

    If you teach children that they are entitled to absolutely everything it should not be a surprise when they also think that includes other people’s lives. Yeah – there needs to be a change but based on the recent election I’m not optimistic.

  • halcrawford

    As William S. Burroughs said, “After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn’t do it.”

  • halcrawford

    As William S. Burroughs said, “After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn’t do it.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1003376721 Sheldon Cooper

    Why are all these OWS scumbags killing people lately? I think we do need to keep guns away from liberals. They obviously have a violent streak.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1003376721 Sheldon Cooper

    Why are all these OWS scumbags killing people lately? I think we do need to keep guns away from liberals. They obviously have a violent streak.

  • jenndee

    I would be willing to guess the school was a gun free zone. If the adults could defend themselves this would not have been such a tragedy. Why do libs think banning guns will mean no one in America will own a gun. Banning guns just means no law abiding citizen in America will own a gun. America’s problem is we have family problem. To many Mom’s and Dad’s keep their kids out of church and keep them in drama and personal termoil.

  • Hearns-Jackson-Hagler-Jones

    So 31 dead in two incidents and it’s not okay to talk about who can have guns? I’m from Texas I like guns its to easy to get guns though.

    • GTFOBigGovt

      A guy in China just killed 22 kids in school. With a knife. Now what?

      • Hearns-Jackson-Hagler-Jones
        • chris hasty

          thankfully they didn’t die. but what if they had? are u going to ban knives know? please tell what would be a tool i could use to defend myself when my house gets robbed.

          • Hearns-Jackson-Hagler-Jones

            No one died cause the guy didn’t have a gun, you make it sound like a coincidence. I want a Saiga 12 with a 20 round clip but I’m mature enough to know how much damage it could do.

          • TexSizzle

            Faulty reasoning. I know dozens of people with firearms, none of whom have killed anybody except in the line of duty, and those two only when their lives were threatened by the idiots they killed.

            If you’re so lacking in self-control that getting a Saiga 12 would put people in danger, it’s good that you have enough self-control not to get it.

          • Hearns-Jackson-Hagler-Jones

            More like is anyone having that gun good for society, it’s just not.

          • TexSizzle

            That doesn’t make sense.

          • lainer51

            You may want one but please don’t get one.
            You are more the “water pistol” type.

        • SDN

          Yet. By the time government healthcare is done with them?

  • v1cious

    So since we’re being fair, Is Twitchy gonna call on Fox to fire Huckabee? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IZeEM_Pqqgw

    • TBoyette

      Fox isn’t conservative and neither is Huckabee. He’s part of the moderate “balance” they like.

  • Carmen Farese

    What these morons do not understand is that when a mentally disturbed, homicidal maniac wants to kill, he/she will kill using whatever means available. Just so happens in this case the means available were firearms. Someone who will use a gun to commit murder is not interested in gun control laws or responsible gun ownership. This tragic event has NOTHING to do with gun control and everything to do with a mental, psychotic bastard taking his rage out on innocent children. So, what…do we start a mental disorder registration?

  • Jerry J Brown

    Why don’t shooters go to the places these guys work and shoot idiot pundits?

  • BruceMichaelGrant

    Ok, let’s confiscate all guns. Mr and Mrs America, turn them all in. Will David Scum (I mean Frum) turn his in or fire his armed security? Will Piers Morgan? Will Diane Feinstein? (Right.)
    Even if all law-abiding citizens comply you still have millions of illegal guns in the hands of criminals. Are you willing to accept the idea of police kicking in doors on the mere suspicion of owning an illegal gun?
    Liberals. You’re the party of the ACLU. Why are politically incorrect people who defend civil rights that YOU don’t like so disposable?

    • GTFOBigGovt

      Will Wasserman-Schultz stop having 2 Broward County armed sherrifs carrying her luggage in the airport? Couldn’t make this up. http://twitpic.com/bi9z95/full

  • dark angel

    Frum, you were always a political nitwit, but just shut your FUCKING mouth for once.

  • Harlan Hikaru Fox

    What really pisses me off are the people screaming “How dare you tell me not to politicize this? When _CAN_ I politicize this? It NEEDS to be politicized!”

    Why do we as a people have to look at EVERY SINGLE THING through the lens of politics?

  • BeeKaaay

    Leftwingwackos love to use children as human shields (gun control) and as human targets (abortion)

  • Mike Morgan

    5 armed teachers or staff could have saved nearly everyone…

  • orringtonmom (D)

    ok, liberals, you want to do something to change the so-called gun culture? how about you stop making cop movies and gang movies that glorifies violence? wouldn’t that be a start? think you have all the answers, then do something of yourself instead of just preaching blame and guilt at everyone else.

    this horrific tragedy goes beyond “gun culture”. a grown adult hunted down BABIES and killed them. BABIES! why are we not talking about a “death culture” that devalues human life in the womb and near the grave?

    right now, someone is thinking about do this again… maybe in a mall, maybe in a movie theater, maybe in a school. guns aren’t thinking about it, people are. sick evil people. with family and friends that need to fuckin’ pay attention.

    • BeeKaaay

      Leftwingwackos are bloodthirsty, they love violence. That’s why they support abortion.

  • Karl H

    So just to be sure I understand this correctly. To murder a child with a rifle is so bad that we can not wait for the dust to settle and we must take quick decisive action with unclear consequences, but murdering one with a medically approved vacuum cleaner is a sacrament.

    • BeeKaaay

      No, no, no :)

      Killing a child by gun is bad. Dismembering a child by ripping it limb from limb, is a sacrament :)

  • lainer51

    As much as Piss Stefan Puke-Morgan wants gun control, I want him to move back to England!

  • http://twitter.com/U_S__Patriot US PATRIOT

    David Frum is a heartless clown and Piers Morgan is a MORON.

  • RightThinking1

    I notice that none of the celebrities have called for an end to the grossly gratuitous violence portrayed in movies, and sanctioned by so-called ‘rap artists’

  • Ralph_Gizzip

    If you want to ban all military type semi-automatic weapons then do it. But make damned sure you take them from the police, too. The 2nd Amendment wasn’t put in place so we could defend ourselves from each other. It was put in place so we could defend ourselves from the government.

  • Nonya

    The shooter was 20 years old.
    CT law states, to own a gun you have to pass a background check and be of 21 years of age.

    • Jack Deth

      Hi, Nonya:

      The weapons were purchased by the shooter’s mother.

      So, your argument is irrelevant. Except for a media which will gladly omit that point and imply that the shooter illegally purchased the firearms.

      Just like they imply that criminals buy their hardware at gun shows. When study after study shows that criminals either steal or buy their weaponry the way Travis Bickel did in ‘Taxi Driver’. From the trunk of a Cadillac or other vehicle.

      • Nonya

        You completely missed my point and bashed me though. Does that make you feel special and powerful now?
        The point was, those were not his weapons, he was not of age. He got them from someone he knew, like most shootings we hear about.
        Tell me of 5 situations where the shooter has been a permit holder.
        So, tell me again how my argument is irrelevant by showing what CT law states.

      • Nonya

        You completely missed my point and bashed me though. Does that make you feel special and powerful now?
        The point was, those were not his weapons, he was not of age. He got them from someone he knew, like most shootings we hear about.
        Tell me of 5 situations where the shooter has been a permit holder.
        So, tell me again how my argument is irrelevant by showing what CT law states.

  • 5n4k33y35

    The answer is to secure the schools with armed security.

  • TocksNedlog

    The number of outright LIES that Morgan told in order to advance his agenda is stunning.

  • Teresa Davis McCormick

    This is where Piers Morgan is from. Boycott his ass.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTyCD2n6HAQ&feature=youtu.be

  • MirrorKrys

    That guy stole the gun and schools are gun free zones. Horrible situation. At least some faculty should have been armed, it is the only way to protect the children. We have gun control already but this guy stole the gun. We need strong mental health laws with a database that gun sellers can check. Some of these shooters were getting meds or under doctors care yet how are the gun sellers know? There are always signs such as with the aurora and Arizona shooting yet nothing is done beforehand. Those people should have been institutionalized but our laws do not allow for it. We need mental health control.

  • FrancisMcManus

    Frum was a speechwriter for George W Bush.

    The author of this post misread his point. He’s not mocking the victims, which is a absurd. He is mocking the people who argue that more guns would have made the victims of gun violence safer.

  • Red Fred

    Piers should probably return to Britain where there are some of the world’s strictest gun control laws, (where he will feel safe and sound,) Stop making public statements in an attempt to change laws in a country where you are NOT a citizen. You have just alienated half your audience.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lorrie.covington.1 Lorrie CapeVape

    Are we going to gloss over the fact that the killer STOLE those guns? Taking away our right to bear arms will only make the law-abiding citizens more vulnerable, not safer.

  • mrbill59

    piers=idiot
    That is all

  • http://www.facebook.com/sherry.cesnajke Sherry Cesna

    I bet if any of these men were at that school at that time and had a loaded gun on them they would have immediately shot the shooter down to save the children. That this happened in a gun free zone should be enough to clue these idiots in.

  • Stephen Strout

    Our real problem started about 50yrs.ago with the ban on prayers in schools.Our moral decline was brought on by LIBERALS who didn’t want any religious influence to be allowed in any public places.Well you reap what you sow.Now we have whole generations of people who have become adults with no moral compass whatsoever and now these same LIBERALS who brought us these people want to be saved from them.How ironic is that.

    • BeeKaaay

      When good is prohibited, evil will fill the void.

  • bobsmith1138

    These salad tosser’s won’t be happy until we surrender to the U.N. and have our guns confiscated. Good luck trying. Based on what I understand, there are at least 10 times more guns in america than most people could fathom. I don’t own a gun, but when Harry Belafonte mouths off that bo should jail the opposition, maybe it’s time to consider it. Don’t fu#k with me or my family.

  • Marsh626

    When will America deal with it’s mud people problem? That’s the #1 reason why Americans need to own and carry firearms to begin with. Go look at the race and violent crime statistics.

    http://unamusementpark.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/flyer1_crime.jpg

    “Hispanics”, muslims and blacks commit hugely disproportionate amounts of violent crime. And their victims are also disproportionately White. My White best friend was murdered by a pack of feral “hispanic” illegal immigrants in a mugging. The only thing that could have saved his life was a high capacity semi-automatic concealred carry firearm.

    I’m sick of “hispanics”, muslims and blacks committing the majority of the violent gun crime and we White conservative NRA members getting blamed for it by libtards when it’s their pro-brown, pro-racial mixing, anti-White, anti-self-defense, pro-soft on crime worldview that’s really to blame.

    • BeeKaaay

      The issue is not race, it is leftwingwackoism, which says that horrific violence against children is OK if they’re young enough.

      I disagree with this. Horrific violence against children REGARDLESS OF THEIR AGE should be outlawed and severely punished.

      But that is something leftwingwackos don’t agree with.

  • Ken

    The shooter got the weapons from his mother, they were her guns. So even if the law was only people under 25 could get them, he would still have them, again, Piers Morgan does not understand that.

    He should remember Sweden, where nobody owns a gun, and one man with a gun was able to have his way because of it. Evil people exist, if anything, we should have a national discussion about getting back to teaching right and wrong to our kids. We have too much teaching of moral relativism going on, its sickening.

    Teach people morality, that would help eliminate psycopaths more than any gun control law would.

  • conserv&preserve

    It’s not a gun culture, it’s a protection culture. What happens when the government takes over, rather than “We the People?” “We the People” will need our guns so as to keep our freedom!