No fewer than two U.S. presidents have weighed in on Washington Wizards center Jason Collins’ announcement that he’s gay. Swooning has been the preferred reaction among media figures and the public, although “Who cares?” is also being accepted as a correct response. The “No H8” crowd has zero tolerance, though, for ESPN’s Chris Broussard and his declaration that he, as a Christian, believes that homosexuality is a sin and living an openly gay lifestyle is “walking in open rebellion to God and Jesus Christ.”

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The “unofficial” (and monolithic) Twitter voice of the Oberlin College community has disowned alumnus Broussard.

Will ESPN also disown Broussard? A #FireChrisBroussard hashtag campaign is getting fired up.

“Evening Jones” host Bomani Jones notes that Broussard’s comments should come as no surprise to anyone familiar with Broussard’s work. He’s written about his views on homosexuality before and pretty clearly laid out his own standard of tolerance.

From the piece linked by Jones:

Millions of Christians who follow the Bible — and Muslims who follow the Koran and Jews who follow the Torah, as well as many nonreligious Americans — believe homosexuality is wrong.

That doesn’t mean they’re unenlightened. That just means their moral code doesn’t fluctuate based on society’s ever-changing standards. As long as we’re not being violent toward one another, as long as we can be civil, everything should be fine. We don’t have to agree.

Until we can honestly hear each other out — and be civil while doing so — we won’t get anywhere. One thing I hope this article does is encourage people to have frank discussions about sensitive issues such as this one.

Here’s the bottom line: If I can accept working side-by-side with a homosexual, then he/she can accept working side-by-side with someone who believes homosexuality is wrong.

Broussard has found plenty of supporters online as well who urge tolerance for his point of view.

Editor’s note: This post has been updated to clarify the source of the block quote.

  • Nied’s Dead Horse

    Tolerance for me but not for thee. If you support the freedoms of Collins, but not Broussard, you just might be a hypocrite.

    • Rosalie

      Yeah, isn’t it nice how the Left starts quoting the Bible right away? What utter, pathetic phonies. They can have their opinions but we should just shut up.

      • RblDiver

        “Shut up you bigot, I’m trying to promote peace and tolerance here!”

        • Rosalie

          Exactly.

      • oconnellc

        But you’re the Christian, right? Are you saying that you have the same standards that they have? No turning the other cheek for you! No withholding judgement for you. Jesus was talking about that other guy when he said that, right? All that stuff about sin being what is in a persons heart is a bunch of crap. All we need is for you to stand up and start pointing out which of us are sinners. God is busy, so you are going to stand in for him, right? That is what Jesus meant by not judging, right? That you should be able to call out who is living in rebellion to God. Sounds like not judging to me.

        You are pretty good at this. Can you invent a religion for me to follow, too?

        • Hanoverfist

          Get thee behind me satan.

          • oconnellc

            Right. I’m satan. Sure looks like satan. All this talk of not judging people, not putting yourself up as the one to point out what everyone else is doing wrong… The last thing we need is a bunch of Christians who just pray and try to have some humility and live the best life they can. No, we need Christians who are going out there and making sure everyone else knows what they are doing wrong. That is what Jesus wants, right? None of this turning the other cheek crap, right? None of this ‘first stone’ crap, right?

          • $970912

            Get one thing straight. Everyone and everything is judged every day. You are living proof. You have cast judgment on Broussard and the entire Christian religion. You can judge all you want. Broussard is more tolerant than you are. Tolerance goes both ways.

          • oconnellc

            So Broussard and I are the same? I’m not claiming to be Christian. He is. You can’t have it both ways. You are either saying that I’m behaving in a Christian manner or that he isn’t. And he started it. He didn’t have to judge. He could have said “As a Christian, I believe that God loves us all, even though he doesn’t love all the things we do all the time”. Would have been true. Would have been humble. Wouldn’t have been judging. Would have even made him sound wise and make his point of view sound loving and open. Too bad he didn’t do that. And you decided to defend what he did, because you think his politics matches yours. Nice. You’re a good Christian.

          • $970912

            Yes, I do try and work is left to do. For someone who claims not to be a Christian you are certainly spouting off about what a good Christian should be. Since you have such a clear understanding of what a good Christian is, you should join up, get you a tv show and start converting pagans. I hear there is good money in that line of work.

          • Debra Blouin

            Quote of what Broussard said: “If you’re openly living that type of lifestyle, the Bible says you know them by their fruits, it says that that’s a sin,” said Broussard, comparing homosexuality to any other sex outside of marriage. “If you’re openly living in unrepentant sin, whatever it may be, I believe that’s walking in open rebellion to God and Jesus Christ.”

            Chris O, do you understand what is meant by the term “judgment”? Broussard made a judgment about sexual sin, all sexual sin, including adultery, promiscuity, and other types of sexual conduct outside orthodox Christian teaching regarding sexual purity. Homosexuality, all due respect to Christian denominations embracing the behavior, has long been considered part of the list of sexual sins covered in a direct reading of the biblical text. The fact that Broussard addressed the totality not only of sexual sin but any other open, unrepentant sin, makes this NOT a case of specific judgment of the type you seem to be in a twist over. He didn’t condemn the player to hell, nor call for a boycott nor personally attack him. He made a clear stand for his personal beliefs in the context of this other man making his personal sexual life public. If that contextualizing makes Broussard a judgmental Christian, then none of us is free to make any personal statement of conviction that might offend anyone else. Is that the standard you are advocating?

          • oconnellc

            I’m advocating a standard where people acknowledge their own failures and put the failures of others on a slightly lower pedestal. Broussard could easily have said “God loves us all, even though he doesn’t love all of the things we do all the time”. Wow, a statement like that has power. It speaks about a loving God. It speaks to his own humilty. It speaks to our chance at forgiveness from God. Can you imagine how awesome Broussard would have been, had he just done that? Can you imagine the impact on people that really would be listening to Broussard with some possibility of him saying something to change their mind?

            But no… Broussard was preaching to the choir. He saw a chance to single out some other people and make a judgement. How you can’t see that is beyond me. How you can think that Broussard saying that the gay lifestyle is open rebellion to God has anything to do with a personal statement of conviction is beyond me. You decide that the public finger pointing is what Jesus wants.

          • truebeliever101

            Actually he was not preaching to the choir. Mr. Collins is being hailed a hero or something for announcing to the world what manner of sex he prefers, or something. It was Mr. Broussard who spoke truth to the tale and is now receiving this backlash for it. Jesus said people would hate his disciples, afterall, they hated Him enough to torture him to death on a cross.

          • oconnellc

            And when he was on the cross, the only thing Jesus said about the people who put him to death was that he forgave them. He didn’t recriminate anyone. He didn’t complain about the treatment. When he knew it was coming, he prayed. While it was happening, he forgave those around him.

            To compare the way Broussard acted to the way Jesus acted is an insult to God and an insult to the intelligence of anyone reading.

          • truebeliever101

            When Jesus went into the temple and found the money changers, was He kind to them? When Jesus confronted the Pharisees, was He kind? Did He mince His words? No. He called sin sin. If a person is asked their feelings on a particular sin and they answer the question honestly, they are called hypocrites and bigots. If they lie and say it’s all fine, that God loves everyone and it will all be okay, they are lying. The Bible is very clear that ALL who do not repent of their sin and seek forgiveness will be damned in eternity. As a Christian, although it would be easier to just walk away and say “Oh well, too bad for him.” I can’t. God requires me to share the truth even if it means you will hate me for it. It doesn’t mean I am one bit better, it just means when confronted with sin we must speak the truth. Hopefully it will not fall on deaf ears. Seems to me that you are being extremely judgmental of Mr. B for simply giving an honest answer to a question he was asked in a public forum. It was not as though he was on a mission to defame or destroy anyone. He was answering a question.

          • oconnellc

            Again, you make my point. Jesus was attacking the hypocrites. Every statement I have made was that “Christians” seem to feel it is their place to jump in for God, as though he isn’t capable of deciding who is sinning or not. And to prove me wrong you essentially say “Jesus did it, so can I”. Really? The Bible goes out of its way more than once to make it clear that God has his own territory and people aren’t supposed to be arrogant enough to go there. But, not you. Jump right in.

          • truebeliever101

            Clearly this is your assessment of the situation, and nothing I say or spend time trying to explain in Biblical terms, or even logical terms, is not going to penetrate the perception you have. Therefore, I leave you with this. It is not hypocritical to say your opinion of an act, if, and when, you are asked to give it. It is not hypocritical to give your opinion of an act even if you are not asked to give it. It IS hypocritical to criticize a person while engaging in the same thing they are doing. Calling sin by what it is not being hypocritical, it is being BIBLICAL. Mr. B wasn’t condemning anyone, he was saying that a person who calls himself a Christian, then engages openly in a lifestyle that God has said is wrong while acting as though it is some wonderful thing, is rebellion against God (His principles.) Even if you call Mr. B, or me, or any other person a hypocrite, a bigot, or any other derogatory name, it will not change the fact that sin is sin, and God hates sin. He calls believers to love the sinner, but hate the sin. How can you hate a sin and call it wonderful, brave, and all the other things people are describing this topic as? But be assured, this sin is just like any other sin. ALL of them are sin in God’s eyes:
            I Corinthians 6:9-11
            “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our Lord.”
            See, we tell people the truth about sin because as long as they are alive, there is still time for them to repent and ask forgiveness and inherit eternal life with God. Not because we think we are better than them or more holy or righteous.
            Col 3:16-17
            “Let the word of Christ richly dwell within you, with all wisdom teaching and admonishing one another with psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with thankfulness in your hearts to God. Whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to him through God the Father.”
            Luke 15: 7
            “I tell you that in the same way, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.”
            I hope there is no animosity here. It was not my intent to anger or frustrate you. I wish you well and I will be praying for you as I hope you will do for me.
            Sincerely.

          • oconnellc

            Again, you keep ignoring my point. It isn’t Mr. B’s job to judge who is sinning and who isn’t. And it makes me angry because Mr. B is also smart enough, and so are you, presumably, to know that. But you choose to ignore the parts that tell you to worry about your own house. That tell you not to cast stones. The parts that say you need to look into a mans heart to judge his sins and that God has reserved that for himself. You ignore all of that and you ignore me when that is the only thing that I keep repeating. Nothing you have just written is contrary to what I have said. Nothing. God doesn’t like sinners. God has provided rules to let us know what sin is. God provided Jesus to update and remind us of what the rules are. All of which you just told me and all of which I have conceded. God also commands you to be a good example. That means you need to walk the walk, not talk the talk. God will look inside mans hearts and decide who is in rebellion, not you. God will judge, not you. And he is explicit about that. But you just ignore those parts, because you’d prefer to judge. You’d prefer to say what you think, even when no one asks. None of which is what Jesus wants. So don’t act like you are sincere, because you aren’t.

          • truebeliever101

            Actually, what you are ignoring is the fact that we are fully capable to know what God expects from us. All we have to do is read and study the Bible. It’s not like we just walk around in a stupor not knowing what God expects from us. And when we stand in judgment before Him we won’t get to use the excuse of ignorance. Likewise, there are many who will preach on earth but not be sincere in their hearts. To those Jesus said He will say “depart from me for I never knew you.” My conscience is clear. I know what is in my heart, and I know who my Savior is. Sharing the information written in the Bible does not, in my view, constitute judgment or bigotry. Again, there is a difference in being cruel and judgmental and simply speaking the truth. Clearly that is where we differ in our opinions. But for the record, I am sincere.

          • Debra Blouin

            @true,
            Chris O can’t hear you. He deflects attention away from the issue and turns his judgment on “hypocrites.” It is convenient to do so. As long as a hypocrite is his focus, and as long as he can feel spiritually and morally superior based on his assessment of their hypocrisy, he needn’t focus on the other matter. Notice that the discussion has turned from the issue of sexual sin in any form as an act of open rebellion (which was the original statement under discussion) to how anyone who takes that stand is a hypocrite. It’s a “kill the messenger” argument fallacy designed to redirect attention and avoid confrontation by introducing a new, more convenient one. He is good at it, and cannot be put off it. He repeats the same charges, uses the same phrasing, makes the same points.

          • truebeliever101

            Sadly, I believe you are correct.

          • truebeliever101

            One more very important point. Yes, when Jesus was on the cross He did ask God to forgive them, as they knew not what they were doing. But please notice this very important fact. Jesus only told ONE of those people that he would be with Him in paradise. That ONE person was the thief on the cross who repented and asked for forgiveness.

          • Debra Blouin

            Quote of what Broussard said: “If you’re openly living that type of lifestyle, the Bible says you know them by their fruits, it says that that’s a sin,” said Broussard, comparing homosexuality to any other sex outside of marriage. “If you’re openly living in unrepentant sin, whatever it may be, I believe that’s walking in open rebellion to God and Jesus Christ.”

            Chris O, do you understand what is meant by the term “judgment”? Broussard made a judgment about sexual sin, all sexual sin, including adultery, promiscuity, and other types of sexual conduct outside orthodox Christian teaching regarding sexual purity. Homosexuality, all due respect to Christian denominations embracing the behavior, has long been considered part of the list of sexual sins covered in a direct reading of the biblical text. The fact that Broussard addressed the totality not only of sexual sin but any other open, unrepentant sin, makes this NOT a case of specific judgment of the type you seem to be in a twist over. He didn’t condemn the player to hell, nor call for a boycott nor personally attack him. He made a clear stand for his personal beliefs in the context of this other man making his personal sexual life public. If that contextualizing makes Broussard a judgmental Christian, then none of us is free to make any personal statement of conviction that might offend anyone else. Is that the standard you are advocating?

          • truebeliever101

            Just a thought, Chris…You are REALLY upset over the words “open rebellion towards God.” Why? What is it about those words that make you unable to just say, “Oh, that’s his opinion.” ? Pray to God and ask Him what is going on that this comment is so offensive to you. The answer may surprise you.

          • oconnellc

            I’m pretty sure it won’t surprise me. I have always hated hypocrites and people who thought they were better than others. I would never be so arrogant as to publicly call out the behavior of others the way Broussard does. I hate bigots. My father had enough stories about dealing with them in his early life that they now make me sick. This pretending that you know what God considers a sin based on selectively picking and choosing lines from the bible is comical and transparent. Your continuous evasion of some pretty straight up questions makes your true opinion on the matter pretty clear. Your thoughtful responses to look inside myself aren’t fooling anyone. It is pretty clear just which people get your admonitions and which ones don’t.

          • truebeliever101

            Okay, you really need to get the chip off your shoulder and start listening for once. Good luck to you, and I really mean that.

          • oconnellc

            Again, ignore what I say and any point that I make, because they are inconvenient. I’m not forcing you to reply, but if you do, you should at least pretend like you are interested in an honest discussion. You are making it pretty clear that you aren’t. Stop wasting both of our time.

          • truebeliever101

            and for the record, I am not admonishing anyone. I am merely trying to explain to you the role of one Christian brother to another.

          • oconnellc

            And how many people are lucky enough to get your explanations? Just those you disagree with? Certainly not someone who claims to be Christian, but then says and does things that fly in the face of so much of what Jesus said. You’d hate to have to ‘explain’ to someone on your side.

        • http://twitter.com/LNSmithee L.N. Smithee

          Sounds to me like you’ve already started the Church of Snarkingtology.

        • IronButterfly

          Chris was only pointing out that God says this particular behavior is sin. Then Chris said that he hopes his view will be tolerated.

          Even if nobody in the world believes the word of God is the truth, that doesn’t make it so.

        • teamfrazzled

          NO-Jesus meant you had better recognize the identical sins by which you condemn in others, but DEFEND and even applaud them when YOU do them. It is like a society that sends some killers to prison, yet defends and even celebrates the killings if the victim is much younger and far more helpless and it’s called abortion instead of murder. Jesus would say that is a society that no longer has the moral foundation to sit in judgment of the killers it sends to prison because they are are equally guilty of the very same thing yet think it’s fine and dandy when they do it and think calling it by another name cleanses the act. It doesn’t -or do you seriously see G*d saying a child in the womb isn’t a real person and therefore He’s fine with those who want to declare open season on them?

        • vphilly

          In biblical terms, you have no idea what the word “judgement” means. So take your ignorant hatred and pound it.

          • oconnellc

            ‘Pound it’. I found that in John. He commanded all true believers to smote the infidel and tell them to ‘pound it’. Think about all the tests that God gave his people in the Bible. Think about how you just replied. Starting to think that maybe you wouldn’t do so well on some of those tests? Hmmm… The bar has been set pretty high. And your guy, Broussard, has made it clear that publicly proclaiming someone else’s failures is now open game. Jesus said stuff about turning the other cheek and loving your enemy. Not for you, right? That pussy stuff is for other Christians. You’re the bad-ass Christian, right? And you have the arrogance to try to chastise someone on the internet. You’re so stupid that you don’t realize that a true Christian will lose any kind of conflict, by definition. Because these types of fights don’t really count. But not you. No. Thanks for proving the point of every one of those people you appear to hate and making them look right.

          • vphilly

            All your words are empty babble from your filthy serpent’s tongue. You have no idea what judgement is, by God’s terms. Go do some research before you attempt to engage your betters, little man.

          • oconnellc

            The weird part is that if you patiently replied, tried to explain something to me and took the high road, you would actually win. My whole argument is based around how Jesus acted and told people to act. You appear to show me how wrong I am by acting in the opposite way that Jesus acted. Are you really that thick? Did you really call me “little man”? No offense, but that is nothing compared to the names I have been called by the Christians here. You should try to question my sexuality. Or, maybe you should mock my appearance a little more forcefully. Trust me, Christians really know how to attack someone. You’re in danger of getting outclassed.

          • vphilly

            Hey, you have a bigotry towards Christians and Christianity. I’m done being patient with people like you because there is no patiently discussing anything with your kind. All you seek to do is twist and turn and corrupt everything that’s explained to you. Go on, admit it. You don’t really want to understand, do you? You just want to mock. That’s really why you’re here, isn’t it? So tell me, what research have you done into the biblical context of the word “judge”? Since you want to understand and all, I figure you had to have looked into it, right?

          • Debra Blouin

            I realize that you believe Chris O is an instigator and thus bears resemblance to the Garden Serpent, but do you think he can actually hear that kind of rebuke and recognize his error? A dividing line rebuke and insult becomes a chasm which alienates the hearer rather than winning him.

          • vphilly

            Chris O won’t recognize his error because he doesn’t care. He’s here to mock and corrupt. He does not care to really understand, because he wants to wallow in his rebellion. So let him. But he will stand before God one day and be held accountable, as will we all.

          • Christian Orpinell

            I’ve been reading some of your comments, and I’ll be the first to admit that when you said…

            “Jesus said stuff about turning the other cheek and loving your enemy. Not for you, right? That pussy stuff is for other Christians. You’re the bad-ass Christian, right?”

            Has described me soo perfectly at times it’s honestly repulsive. You see, but I’ve realized that type of approach to anyone, especially atheists; hurts my cause and makes me personally look like a fool. (I shouldn’t view myself in a high pedestal anyway…)

            But time has passed, and I’ve even gotten some of the most reprobate people that I know, that smoke 420, and believe in anything that “comes” and “goes” to honestly think about what I’ve had to say in deep detail, and slow consideration. I’ve even gotten some people (teens) to flat out say absurd things such as, “The actions of Hitler were neither right or wrong…” Yet I never lashed out at them in anger or ridiculed them. Even when the discussion was completely over, I created an atmosphere of humility, and sincere kindness.

            However, when you say that Christians should be more Christ-like; you’re absolutely correct. But when you attempt to insult someone else by saying…

            “You’re so stupid that you don’t realize that a true Christian will lose any kind of conflict, by definition.”

            You begin to lose all credibility of the very point you’re trying to drive across. If you really wish to put Christians on the burner, (not necessarily saying that’s your aim) refrain from using any form of derogatory terms / phrases. Essentially you would simply just be discussing something.

            Also, I’d encourage you to look some of my recent comments concerning Homosexuality. You’d be surprised as to what people compared me to. Yet did I fire back, or outlash at anyone? Nope.

          • Debra Blouin

            You must have the Def Jam edition of the Bible. I have never read “pound it” (nor have I ever read “infidel”, so you must have the Koranic Def Jam version). So, just to deal with the whole judgy-arroagnt thing, what IS your knowledge of the biblical text and the scope of teachings that you would be in such a position to declaim with such authority regarding the truth or motive of Broussard or any other poster here?

          • oconnellc

            Wow. Sarcasm goes way over your head. My knowledge of the Bible is enough to make me know that I cannot read, in isolation, one line and use it to stand up and accuse another group of people of living in rebellion to God. I know enough of my own failings to make me humble enough not to seize at any small possible interpretation. I know that Jesus teaches us to be an example. I know that the Bible is actually pretty explicit when it says that sin is in the heart and that we aren’t supposed to judge based on actions or appearances and that the Bible is also pretty explicit in that it leaves the ‘looking into the heart’ thing to God and to God alone. But no… Not to most of the Christians here. You see a chance to tell someone else what they are doing wrong, jump on it. Even better if you can do it on TV. Hypocrisy makes my blood boil, because it is based on an arrogance that is the exact opposite of what Jesus spent his life trying to teach. Most of the people here making Christian arguments are pretty far from Christian. But, I’m the one you want to argue with, not the people who make you look terrible by association. That alone says plenty. Have you sent any messages to the Christians here who have called me names? I’m not a Christian, but they are. So what is the expectation? What about those that deliberately distort the truth to demean and smear those that they don’t like? What is the expectation? And all of that done to support someone else saying that gays are living in rebellion to God. Nice religion that they have invented. It certainly isn’t Christianity…

          • Debra Blouin

            Well, maybe you aren’t very good at sarcasm.
            I haven’t read posts in which you were called names. Someone posted about “your filthy serpent’s tongue.” Strong words. I don’t know if I agree wholeheartedly. Use of that phrase refers to the lying serpent in the garden. I think you are mistaken about some things. Mostly, I think you are enjoying getting so much attention, but that may not be very fair a judgment to make.
            I missed the examples of Broussard’s hypocrisy that prompted your diatribes. That would have better contextualized your case for his statements being unworthy of a believer.

          • Debra Blouin

            You must have the Def Jam edition of the Bible. I have never read “pound it” (nor have I ever read “infidel”, so you must have the Koranic Def Jam version). So, just to deal with the whole judgy-arroagnt thing, what IS your knowledge of the biblical text and the scope of teachings that you would be in such a position to declaim with such authority regarding the truth or motive of Broussard or any other poster here?

        • truebeliever101

          In a nutshell, turning the other cheek is when someone wrongs you personally. Don’t take revenge. God judges the heart means that even though we often “pretend” to be pure in our outward actions, God sees and judges our motives. ALL of us are sinners. The difference is, a true Christian will attempt to study and follow the teachings of the Bible. He will fail at times, but then his heart will feel greived and he will seek forgiveness. A non-repentant person may or may not read the word of God, but will live in such a way that goes against God’s word with out feeling any remorse. To continue openly doing something that goes against God’s word is, by definition, open rebellion to God. In this case he was being asked to celebrate a person’s decision to live in a lifestyle that according to the Bible will prevent a person from having eternal life with God. We are all asked to examine our lives and our choices, because any sin done in open rebellion to God has dire consequences.

          • oconnellc

            So, given that you know that you have sinned in the past and that you will sin again in the future, despite every claim that you may have to want to avoid sin… What word would you use to describe someone who calls out someone else for doing the same thing? What conversation was Jesus having, by the way, when he made the remark about people casting the first stone?

          • vphilly

            “casting the first stone”. You still have no idea of what you are talking about. But any chance to twist the Word of God, right?

          • oconnellc

            See, you continue to choose to ignore the key part of that… What is in a mans heart? What is his motivation? What causes him to do the superficial things that you can see? When there is so much evidence saying you shouldn’t judge because you don’t know what is in a man’s heart, why spend so much of your life being a jagoff and judging the insignificant part, the part that you can see. You don’t know a persons motivations, what causes them to do the things they do. No one does, but God. But instead of having a little humility and focusing on the sin that you know will commit and trying to stop that, you feel it is appropriate to publicly comment on the lives of others. What does it feel like to be so arrogant? God forbid you be the kind of Christian who provides an example by the life you lead… No, you have to be the loudmouth, pointing out to everyone else the faults that they have. By your words, you are a sinner. So remember the line about throwing stones…

          • truebeliever101

            Well, first of all, you have to remember that Mr. B was asked, something to the effect of, “This guy just came out as a homosexual. He is a Christian just like you. What do you think about that?” In this instance, Mr B was answering the question honestly, based on his faith belief in the Bible’s teaching. It would have been different if he had just decided on his own to rant or gossip about the other person, but that was not at all the case. He was making the case for the Christian perspective on the subject of homosexuality after being asked that direct question. He also said the same is true for ANY sin that one chooses to commit openly, repeatedly, before God. Mr. B wasn’t so much as judging the other man as he was stating a spiritual fact based on the Bible. Also, the other man calls himself a Christian. The Bible is also clear that fellow Christians are to admonish one another in love when they see one another falling into sin. It is considered an act of brotherly love when a fellow believer brings to your attention something you are doing that the Bible directs us not to do. It’s looking out for the spiritual well being of one another. Remember, the title of Christian means something, so if you claim it, obedience to the word of God is expected to be evident in your life (The Bible says “You will know them by their fruit.”) Their actions will give away their leanings of their hearts. On the other hand, the Bible says that we are NOT to judge non-believers, as they do not know they are lost in sin. We ARE called to minister to them and love them, but not to judge them. But don’t confuse judgement with discernment. Everyone is called to have a discerning spirit-we are not called to just blindly believe and accept whatever comes our way. We are to act in love while standing strongly in the faith. I believe the verse in the Bible regarding casting stones was when the people were about to stone a prostitute. There is a big difference between standing as judge and executioner, versus calling out the sin of a fellow believer. It is unfortunate that Mr. B’s words were so public, as we are to do that sort of thing in private. However, I heard the exchange, and he was asked to give his opinion on the matter of a fellow believer living a homosexual lifestyle. I honestly don’t think he was being purposefully unkind or hurtful to an individual. He was giving an honest assessment of a situation after being asked to do so. PLEASE understand that expressing a Biblical truth in no way makes a person a “hater.” Well, I should correct that, the WAY we handle things can definitely make us appear to be haters. But the fact is, no matter how kindly we speak the truth of scripture, there will be some who hate us for it. Jesus told his disciples exactly that. Professing a truth that others don’t want to hear will not win you any popularity contests. But, nonetheless, it is what we are called to do. The Bible says that all of heaven rejoices when one wayward person is returned to God. Words are a very tricky thing, and many who profess to be Christians come across as self-righteous monsters. That is NOT what the Bible calls for. We are called to speak the truth in love. Self-righteous attitudes are an abomination to God.

          • oconnellc

            You’re post boils down to one thing… He didn’t try to minister to anyone. He is a sports reporter. He knows Jason Collins. He could call Jason Collins. He could meet with him or talk with him or anything he wants to do. He didn’t choose to do those. He choose to go on TV and tell the world that he was in open rebellion to God. He has no idea who is in rebellion to God or not. All of the things you say are meant to give ‘the haters’ an opportunity to call attention to how great they are and how rotten everyone else is. That is all. There is no ministry in stating on TV that someone else is in rebellion to God. None. There is no humility there. None. There is no acceptance of God as the arbiter of who is in rebellion and who is not. None.

          • truebeliever101

            I will give this one more try, then I will cease to comment, as I feel like this is a circular conversation that goes nowhere.
            Fact: Mr. B is paid to be a commentator.
            Fact: He was asked a “gotcha” question by another “commentator”
            Fact: The Bible says homosexuality is a sin.
            Fact: Mr. B answered the question honestly.
            No one is claiming to be sin-free here. They were discussing a particular topic. A touchy question was asked and answered.

          • vphilly

            Homosexuals are in rebellion to God. There are laws that were changed when Christ came here, and there are laws that weren’t. But you don’t really care to know about any of that, do you? You just want to twist and discredit, right?

          • Debra Blouin

            “why spend so much of your life being a jagoff”

            That wouldn’t be name -calling and thus evidence of your own hypocrisy, now would it?
            It is evidence only of the efforts you are making to damn people by standards you can easily avoid by reaffirming that you are not a believer.
            Or you are a believer, and you are using this forum as a chance to “out” so-called-hypocrites, making you seem open and “spiritual”. Read your post: the standard you set (not judging because you don’t know a mans heart) is one to which you do not hold yourself.

          • vphilly

            So, what was it I said about that guy’s serpent tongue, Debra?

          • vphilly

            You still haven’t researched the word “judge” in the biblical context. You still have no clue about which you are speaking.

      • Jim Chandler

        Funny how they say to read the Bible when it’s apparent they have not.

    • Anyone00

      I think the issue is that the word “tolerance” is used differently by different people. Merriam-Webster say tolerance in this context means “sympathy or indulgence for beliefs or practices differing from or conflicting with one’s own”. Mr. Garrison said “Look, just because you have to tolerate something doesn’t mean you have to approve of it! …”Tolerate” means you’re just putting up with it! You tolerate a crying child sitting next to you on the airplane or, or you tolerate a bad cold. It can still piss you off!”. In this context to tolerate something you must first dislike or disagree with it. Still an ambiguous term though.

      I think when most vocal social non-/anti-traditionalist (which ,granted, would also cover South Park but you get the idea) use the term to mean ‘free from bigotry’ and all disagreement with them is bigotry.

    • Okie_pastor

      True. Begala needs to read 1 Cor. 6:9,10 and Romans 1. Liberals can’t seem to grasp Christianity: love for everyone does not equal acceptance of sin. “go and sin no more” jn 8:11

    • PatriotRG

      well said –

    • http://twitter.com/MarceloCorve Marcelo Corvezola

      You just called Dr.King a hypocrite,lol…just saying

  • Legal Immigrant in TX

    I guess Chris Broussard didn’t get the memo that expressing a Christian belief is considered hateful and bigoted.

    • 24fan

      and extremist to boot

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Justin-Mars/1021563074 Justin Mars

        He is officially on Obama’s watch list. They just upped his status on the HomeLand Security to level RED after those extremist remarks. Just a notch above the Boston Terrorist.

    • Filthy Liar

      It isn’t a Christian belief though? I mean you don’t have to believe that homosexuals are walking in defiance of God to be a Christian. In fact, and this is key, Jesus was all about the fact that no man could know his Father’s will. We could only try to do right, and Jesus goes out of His way to explain what right means.

      Now if we want to get old Testament, (which we don’t because Jesus explicitly offered us a better deal when he rose up) then Leviticus is our go-to. The thing is, every sin in Leviticus is on the same level. Apparently polyester is literally as bad as homosexuality.

      • AMSilver

        The idea that Jesus saying that men don’t know His Father’s will equals the idea that men are incapable of knowing good from evil is totally wrong. Jesus continually told people to sin no more. In order for people to do that, they had to 1) know what was sinful and what was righteous and 2) refrain from doing sinful things.
        Pretty much any belief that acknowledges the divinity of Christ qualifies as Christian, but if you believe that engaging in sex outside of marriage (and marriage is something that by its definition can only be entered by members of opposing sexes) is something that we can’t judge and shouldn’t be able to identify as sin, then you’re following your own teachings and not those of Christ.
        While the teachings of Christ did supercede those of the Old Testament, he made it clear that he hadn’t come to destroy the old teachings, but to fulfill them. What he gave was a more stringent law (in many ways) which required a person to be committed not only through their daily acts, but through their hearts. While some laws (animal sacrifice as an example) were fulfilled, and some laws (dietary restrictions) were eased, there was no wholesale revocation of the laws of the Old Testament – particularly the 10 commandments, which Christ respected and preached himself. Given that “Thou shalt not commit adultery” includes a prohibition of all forms of sexual uncleanliness, sodomy would be included as a sinful behavior that Christ would expect people not to engage in.

        • Filthy Liar

          “Marriage by it’s definition can only be entered by members of opposite sexes” is not actually a true statement. I agree with everything else you’ve posted. The Ten Commandments are obviously still vital, I just get annoyed with people quoting Leviticus as if it’s a vital part of the Christian orthodoxy.

          • $45875941

            You can’t be “bigoted” against a behavior.

      • teamfrazzled

        We do know the Law by which we will all be judged. Do you seriously think when Jesus said “a man who divorces his wife and takes another is guilty of adultery” would be rioting in the street demanding marriage be redefined to mean nothing more than “any two or more people who insist on calling their consensual relationship a ‘marriage’? Jesus said G*d’s Law is immutable-that means unchanging. And yes, living in accordance with His Law and encouraging others to do so as well is His will. What we cannot know is who is and is not going to hell because we cannot,know His will in that regard. That we all live in accordance with His Law -you have to be kidding to suggest that isn’t G*d’s will. even Jesus said it is.

        • Filthy Liar

          I don’t believe that Jesus would demean a committed lifelong relationship between two people. Whether he would recognize it as a biblical marriage I wouldn’t claim to have any idea. I do believe that gay marriage, (two people committing their lives to one another) is not a sin. If I’m wrong I believe I’ll answer for it when I die and I’m not afraid of the Judge I’ll be standing before (though I’ll admit that’s mostly false bravado/incomprehension, everyone will tremble when they meet the Creator). I also think that many people who are opposed to gay marriage use religion as a veneer to justify their own bigotry. God is many things, but bigoted is not one of them.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            Well good for actual Christians we don’t have to project our own feelings onto how God and Jesus think, because what they actually think is in the Bible and it is concrete. If God thinks homosexuality is a sin and you don’t then guess who is right. Hint: It isn’t you.

          • Christian Orpinell

            What if God said that Homosexuality was wrong? Is God a bigot then? Oh wait, what definition of bigotry are we using here?

          • truebeliever101

            When in doubt, see what the Bible says.
            “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor theives, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.”
            I Cor 6:9-11

          • Filthy Liar

            Paul isn’t Jesus or a prophet soo…

          • truebeliever101

            Paul was, indisputably, the person most responsible for the spread of Christianity in its beginning. His teachings make up the majority of the books in the NT. The Bible is the infallible Word of God. Therefore…

    • v1cious

      How about keeping your beliefs to yourself? You guys sure are quick to say that when a liberal celebrity expresses their opinion, why is this situation different?

      • Legal Immigrant in TX

        You just shared your belief to me. How about practicing what you spout? Thank you very much.

        • v1cious

          Am I part of the media? What a stupid thing to say.

          • Legal Immigrant in TX

            ‘How about keeping your beliefs to yourself? You guys sure are quick to say that when a liberal celebrity expresses their opinion, why is this situation different?’
            Am i part of the media, too? Who were you talking to then? I guess you confuse yourself. LOL!

  • https://twitter.com/Captain_Cy_kun Cy

    Free speech is great until someone says something you disagree with, isn’t it? Personally, I think the guy is an idiot and I could rant all day about people who pick and choose which parts of their religious book of choice to follow and then claim that their bigotry is justified by their beliefs, but he definitely has the right to say what he wants. Just like ESPN has the right to fire him if they want to.

    • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

      ESPN knew he was a Christian and he is paid to give his opinion. And guess what, the silent majority agree with him. I don’t see how presenting an opposing opinion in a respectful manner when it is your job to give opinions is a fire-able offense.

      • oconnellc

        Because as a Christian, he should have said that he thinks that certain things are sins. It is the height of arrogance to think that he knows Gods mind enough to stand up and point at other people and call them sinners. He can say what he wants. But be prepared to withstand the consequences. Like having literate adults who aren’t arrogant jerks who think that God put them on earth to point out which of the rest of us are sinners point out when they are acting like they have the knowledge or moral high ground to stand up and publicly point out the other people who are sinners. Arrogant! Unbelievable arrogance.

        • http://twitter.com/mayjordan Jordan May

          But as Christians we have the mind of
          Christ. (1 Corinthians 2:16) and as thus whenever the Bible explicitly states
          that something is sin we can then judge with righteous judgment.
          (John 7:24) But only in a humble heart felt way. My heart weeps for
          my family and friends that are living in sin, regardless of whether it is homosexuality,
          fornication, or anything else that keeps them from a true relationship with
          Christ Jesus.

          Morality is determined by present society and constantly changing. True Christianity was founded 2,000 years ago
          and does not change regardless of sociological pressure.

          • PilatesQuestion

            I totally agree except that morality was determined by God before He spoke the universe into existence. This is how we know that God exists, since there is no other option for the origin of morality except for God.

          • oconnellc

            And when Christ came, he replaced the old law with himself:

            But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor

            Or don’t you believe that Christ has come yet? There are an awful lot of laws presented. Are you sure you follow them all? Are you prepared for the righteous judgement? Some of those things are pretty explicit and don’t leave a lot of room for interpretation…

          • truebeliever101

            No Chris, He didn’t replace the law. More like he fulfilled it. The law was to show man how utterly sinful he is. Imagine if your worhip service was the scene of a slaughterhouse. That was pretty much what went on under the scarifice system. The people were constantly having to give blood sacrifices for the failure to fulfill the laws. God sent Jesus as the one time passover lamb to die in place of all those sacrifces, and his blood shed on the cross was payment for the sins of all mankind. Jesus offers us the free gift of salvation through his amazing grace. We certainly don’t deserve it. He just loves us so much that He made a way for us to spend eternity with Him. But, along with that free gift of salvation, we are required to live according to His commands. The Bible is very clear what those commands are. We don’t get to choose.

          • oconnellc

            So when Jesus says that the whole of the law depends on two things; love God and love your neighbor, why don’t you believe him? He said the old law wouldn’t go away until it was fulfilled. When he said those words, it hadn’t been fulfilled yet. And then he fulfilled it. What happens to the old law after that? It is replaced with him. And his two commandments. Why don’t you believe him?

          • truebeliever101

            How did Jesus treat sinners? He was very straight forward and direct regarding their sin. Sin is not to be taken lightly, as “the consequences of sin are death.” To play dumb and go along when confronted with sin is not what Christians are to do. To tell someone the biblical truth, even if it is not what they want to hear, IS love, if it leads to them repenting and saves their soul from eternal damnation. To lie to them and say it’s all okay, or to play dumb and remain silent for the sake of being liked is not love. But, I understand if this sounds crazy to you. The Bible says that too. The truth of God will seem foolishness to those who do not have ears to hear. The good news is, if you seek Him with all your heart, he promises you will find Him.

          • oconnellc

            So I give you an argument that contradicts what you say, so you just abandon it. Typical of people who claim to be Christian. You ignore every question that might require you to admit the contradictions and admit that of the alternatives, you choose the one that allows you to judge how others behave.

          • truebeliever101

            Didn’t mean to ignore anything. If you love God you will obey His commandments. His commandments say that homosexuality is a sin. If you act willfully to sin against God, you either don’t love Him or you are rebelling against Him.
            Does that answer your question? Saying that a lifestyle that goes against God’s commands is rebellion to God is accurate, no matter which one of us sinners does it.

          • Guest

            Very well said, Jordan.

        • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

          So basically you are saying we are only allowed to say things you agree with and condone every bad behavior and evil act people want to commit. I’m so glad that people like you who have never picked up a Bible and have only read a couple of out of context passages on an atheist website think they can pretend to know what God wants. Sorry, don’t think so Sally. Talk about arrogance.

          • oconnellc

            Sally? Nice. I’m not saying any of that. It must make you feel better to ignore what I am really saying so that you can continue to just do what you want, without your conscience bothering you. I’m saying that a true Christian wouldn’t say anything with regards to what I might think. They would say something with regards to what God might think. Jesus is pretty clear about what he would want someone to do. He should have said “As a Christian, I think God loves all of us, even if he doesn’t love all the things we do”. He said that the gay lifestyle is “open rebellion to god”. Have you even thought about that or what it means? What right does Broussard or you or anyone have saying something as arrogant as that. As though you know what God thinks or what some other person really thinks. Nope, Ben gets to look around and stop other behavior that he doesn’t like and stand up and point his finger at people and let the world know that they are sinning. Nice. This is working out pretty well for you.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            We do know what God thinks because it is IN THE BIBLE, you dolt. We as Christians are supposed to teach what is in the Bible and homosexuality being a sin is in there, just because it makes you liberals uncomfortable is of no importance to us. We are supposed to inform people what sins they are committing so they will stop their bad behavior. Whether they do or not is their choice, but we have done our part. What right do YOU have to tell US how to talk? What right do YOU have to tell US what God wants when you know very little about the Bible? Quit professing ignorantly to us what you THINK God says as if you know anything about God or the Bible.

          • $45875941

            How right you are! Our resident atheist fairy princess seems to be confused about not judjing others. He cherry picks the bible on Google, but conveniently omits that little phrase “show them the error of their ways.” As Christians, we are commanded to “spread the gospel,” and “show them the error of their ways.” (Point – out – their – sins) Those are inconvenient truths for Chrissy sweet breeches. And yes, when you openly flaunt your homosexuality (abomination/ sin) repeatedly, without ceasing and without repenting, you are living in open rebellion of the Lord.

          • https://twitter.com/Webnetcity webnetcity

            Chris,
            You have been misinformed…
            Christians have every right to judge sin…
            John 7:24 says that we are to judge correctly and not by appearances.

            God does love all of us, it’s the sin that he hates

          • oconnellc

            Right. The Bible says in lots of places that you are to judge by what you can’t see. So, what is it that Broussard is judging on? Can he see into Collin’s heart? What sort of insight does he have, other than appearances. You don’t even understand why your own words prove the point of everyone you are arguing against.

            Do me a favor. Spend a few days listing all the parts of the Bible that you are ignoring by focusing only on the single line that lets you stand up, attract attention to yourself and point a finger at the sins of others. Jesus would have kicked your ass. A religious hypocrite is the worst kind…

          • https://twitter.com/Webnetcity webnetcity

            Wow!!!

            Talk about a hypocrite!!!

            You don’t know a thing about me and yet you have already judged me in the same way you claim Christians are judging this basketball player.

            Then you invoke the name of Jesus in the same sentence as profanity? Wow, you really have this Christianity thing down don’t you? I guess you schooled us right? ROFL

            p.s.
            I have no religion, I have a relationship with God…
            Have a great day! :)

          • oconnellc

            I apologize. You aren’t a religious hypocrite. You are a plain old hypocrite. You reply to me, but ignore everything I said. Go ahead, explain how you can ignore all those inconvenient parts of the NT that talk about how Jesus replaced the OT. Go ahead, pick and choose which parts of the Bible define your relationship with God. But don’t pretend that you are something you aren’t. You claim that I am judging you and that that makes me wrong. Yet you go out of your way to find the needle in a haystack that allows Christians to judge others, while ignoring the mountain of needles that don’t. Why not talk to God and ask him what he thinks about that? Let me know what he says.

          • https://twitter.com/Webnetcity webnetcity

            I apologize Chris, you’re not looking for answers, you’re just a plain old coward hiding behind a keyboard, trying to pick a fight to justify your own views.

            How weak and pathetic is that?

            You’re too gutless to go to God yourself, so you spend your time trying to provoke his followers, because that’s what cowards do. It doesn’t matter what any Christian says to you, you already have your mind made up. You’re just wasting our time, trying to prove a worthless point to make yourself feel better.

            You try to discredit the bible and spew out hatred for Christians, then you go back and run and tell others how much those horrible insensitive Christians hurt your little feelings.

            Well boo hoo!

            You’re not only a liar and a fraud…
            You’re the biggest wimp I’ve ever seen…

            You spineless blowhards try to act all tough and attack Christians but you’re too gutless to say anything to Muslims about what they believe, because you know they would cut your head off. So instead you go around trying to bully people you think are weak and won’t fight back.

            You’re the most pathetic of cowards..
            What do you care anyway what Christians say or believe?

            You don’t have any desire for God or the things of God, so stop lying and stop trying to deceive people. If you were being sincere you wouldn’t spend so much time trying to torment and terrorize God’s people with vain debates over the scriptures.

            You’re not doing anything new, the Devil has been trying to accuse and persecute God’s people for centuries. Your old arguments about the bible are about as worthless as the old Pharisees who tried the same thing.

            You’re not the first and you won’t be the last…

            Quit trying to pretend like you’re looking for truth with your fake, self-righteous hypocrisy, the truth is you’re no better than anybody else. If you don’t like what the bible says,…
            stop reading it.

            People have been trying to ban it, and burn it for centuries, you’re no different, and you’ll lose just like they did. God’s word and it’s power will be around long after you and I are both dead and buried.

            I’ll make this simple for you…
            I’ll show you the same amount of respect you’ve shown me..

            Humble yourself before God, repent of your sins or you’ll die and go to hell. How’s that for a Christian response?

            Don’t like it? Then rant on and cry about it then…
            makes no difference to me…
            I know where I’m going to spend eternity…

            and as long as I have breath in my body. I’m going to obey God and point out sin, so get over it.

            Now run along and add that to your list of things those mean, nasty Christians said to you and pretend like it matters and pretend like I care.

            Have a great day! :)

          • oconnellc

            Yep, great Christian. That is what God wants you to do. Point out what others are doing wrong. And then double down on it. No humility there. That’s for others. And of course, bring up Islam, because we are certainly on a forum where the topic is Islam, right? Why wouldn’t I talk about Islam on a forum where the topic is a Christian making an ass out of himself and his faith.

            Why? Why is it so hard for you to act like a true Christian? Why has it never occurred to you that the way to win over the people who think you are a clown is to stop acting like one. God doesn’t want you to spend your time pointing out sin, unless it is your own. How in the world did you twist the Bible to come up with the idea that he wants you to be a babysitter for everyone? For every line that says you need to be a jagoff, judging and pointing out the flaws in others, there is another that says you should be humble and tend to yourself and not worry about others? So why pick that one that allows you to be a loud mouth jerk? Well, I guess that one answers itself. Good, because you’ll never answer it.

            Of course, I love how you end your long screed about me and all the things that I say, by saying that you don’t care about me or the things I say. Doesn’t that seem like something an 8 year old would do? But, it is consistent with how you have twisted the Bible and your supposed faith, so I guess I’m not surprised.

          • https://twitter.com/Webnetcity webnetcity

            blah,blah,blah, your 15 seconds are over…
            try your pathetic guilt trip on someone weak-minded…

            yep, that’s right I could care less what you think…
            you can quote me on that…
            as a matter of fact…

            why don’t you go run and tell God about it?

            (looks at watch)
            sorry Chris, I can’t play anymore, I have work to do…
            feel free to lash out some more if it makes you feel better.
            God can set you free from all those demons if you let him.

            Take care and have a wonderful day! :)

          • oconnellc

            I’ve been laying it on someone weak-minded since I started writing to you. I know, reply again and tell me how you really, really, really don’t care what I think. And double dog dare me, while you are at it.

            Oh, and if you have a couple minutes, actually address something I said. How can you live with your own arrogance? Do you ever question yourself and wonder how you could have gotten so confused as to what Jesus wants you to do? It is so clear, and yet you have twisted just about everything in such a way that you can feel good about yourself and point out how terrible everyone else is. What kind of meds are you on for that?

          • Debra Blouin

            You are enjoying yourself, aren’t you? You have a lot of people here spending time engaging your juvenile and puerile display of phony outrage. I succumbed to the temptation, too. Then I read some of your other posts. I don’t know you. But your words and tone reflect an animosity that goes far deeper than this silly and trite argument.
            To anyone else tempted to engage Chris O, shake the dust off your feet and move on.

          • oconnellc

            The problem is that no one here has spent any time to engage me. I have been called names and threatened and all of my difficult questions have been ignored. Over and over people quote the one line that seems to give them carte blanche to judge those around them, while ignoring the others that aren’t nearly as much fun. Christians are pretty crappy at being Christians. That is fine, you can accuse me of having some deep animosity. But what do you accuse the so-called Christians here who have acted like anything but of having? Delusions? Or do you just ignore the inconvenient facts? Do you only judge people who aren’t Christians? Is a Christian who knowingly misrepresents also living in rebellion to God? Or is that only for the people you don’t like? Your attempts to delude yourself aren’t fooling anyone else.

          • Debra Blouin

            You are enjoying yourself, aren’t you? You have a lot of people here spending time engaging your juvenile and puerile display of phony outrage. I succumbed to the temptation, too. Then I read some of your other posts. I don’t know you. But your words and tone reflect an animosity that goes far deeper than this silly and trite argument.
            To anyone else tempted to engage Chris O, shake the dust off your feet and move on.

        • truebeliever101

          No, it’s more like those who have been rescued from the grip of sin are so thankful to God for their salvation, and they want everyone to share in the same comfort and peace that they have received. To say a sin is a sin is not arrogance, nor is it hypocritical. To condemn another would be hypocritical. It is not for us to condemn, but we can certainly point to what the Bible says. This will, as witnessed here, make Christians VERY unpopular. Why is that? Because people don’t want to hear that they are sinners. Our human nature makes us want to do what we want to do, regardless of what God says. God has a standard and one day all will be held accountable to that standard. When I show you where the standard is written in the Bible, that is love. What you do with that information is solely up to you. You can take it as food for thought and seek the truth for yourself, or you can call me a bigot and demand my head. The latter, sadly, is the norm in our current day society.

          • oconnellc

            Again, Broussard didn’t show show that God’s standard is love and that he loves all. He went out of his way to call out the behavior of people that he has never met. That is the sort of thing the Bible is pretty clear on. God reserves the right to judge people. The Bible is pretty clear that you need to see inside person and only God can do that. I know I have mentioned that inconvenient fact to you multiple times and your ignoring it certainly doesn’t give you any credibility.

          • truebeliever101

            I have responded to your comment many times. WE ARE CALLED TO JUDGE THE ACTIONS OF FELLOW CHRISTIANS. (For the sake of admonishing them to return to honoring God.) Saying a sin is a sin is NOT judging anyone. It is deeming a sin a sin. You may not think homosexuality is a sin and maybe that is your underlying problem with this conversation. But please do not accuse me of ignoring your question. I have answered it again and again. In addition, when we say only God knows the heart, we are not saying that a person’s actions are not open to interpretation. If I gossip with my neighbor, I am acting in rebellion to God, because I know that gossip is a sin and I do it anyway. See how that works?

      • Filthy Liar

        If the silent majority agree with him then they should have the courage of their convictions and stand by him. They won’t because they don’t exist. The silent majority has never been a real thing and has always been used by people who are in the minority to convince themselves otherwise.

        • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

          They won’t say anything because people like you bully them any time they dare speak their beliefs no matter how respectful, just like the very article you are on. It must be nice to have an honest conversation and be able to call for someone to be fired just because they disagree with you.

    • J. Cox

      Bigotry?I am sure you can verify how each and every person who “pick and chooses” what part they believe in,live the rest of their lives right?No…then the rest of your comment is just asinine.

      • https://twitter.com/Captain_Cy_kun Cy

        Well, let’s see, has he ever eaten fat or blood? Because Leviticus banned that. Has he ever lied? Leviticus bans that to, not to mention the Ten Commandments. Bearing a grudge? Mixing fabrics in clothing? Trimmed his beard? Sat down in the presence of the elderly? Worked on the Sabbath? If he’s done any of that he’s just as guilty of “rebellion against God” as a homosexual world be according to the Bible. And if he’s lived his entire life not doing a single one of those things, or anything else the Bible forbids, then I’ll apologize to his face and admit that I’m wrong. But when someone picks one thing out of a list of dozens and says “THIS thing is evil and sick and perverted because the Bible says so” I think it’s a pretty safe bet that he’s just using religion to justify his own prejudices.

        • J. Cox

          And another reason why you shouldn’t ever…EVER try to quote the bible out of context when you do not know the difference between the time before Christ,and the time after Christ…you don’t understand Grace.Please save your miquotes and non contextual BS for someone who is clueless.

          • oconnellc

            Nice. This lets you pick and choose what you think should be literally followed and what is metaphorical. And anyone who calls you on it is automatically misunderstanding. You can’t possibly come out on the wrong end of this one. Pretty nice little religion you have invented for yourself.

          • PilatesQuestion

            Exegesis is extremely necessary in interpreting the Bible. Since we are currently in the New Covenant, we do not have to follow all the requirements of the Old Covenant (Jesus fulfilled it).

          • oconnellc

            Does that mean ‘none’ of them? How do you decide? It sure seems like some people like to pick and choose…

          • QuadGMoto

            Read carefully.

            Therefore I have said to the people of Israel, No person among you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger who sojourns among you eat blood.
            — Leviticus 17:12

            Prefix to the 10 Commandments:

            “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
            — Exodus 20:2

            Of the 10 Commandments, nine of them are stated elsewhere as applying to all humanity. The exception is the Sabbath, which therefore, only applies to Israel.

            Two different fabrics, trimming beards, etc. is proceeded by this:

            “Speak to all the congregation of the people of Israel and say to them,
            — Leviticus 19:2a

            It sounds like a tautology, but commands, promises, etc. are only given to those they are given to. They do not apply to anyone else.

          • oconnellc

            So you really are a strict interpreter of the Old Testament. Since there is a fine line between saying ‘the people of Israel’ and everyone else, you are going to walk it. The people of Israel only applies to that particular tribe of people living in the middle east. And when the Bible says:

            But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.

            Do you ignore that part? It seems pretty explicit that those of faith are not ruled by the old law any more. Those of faith are now ruled by Christ. Or aren’t they?

          • QuadGMoto

            Words mean things. If you deny that, you’re just doing fancy grunting.

          • oconnellc

            Words are also allegorical. Words are metaphors. If you don’t know that, how are you managing to put letters together in combinations that spell words? Jesus is known for his parables. You know, stories where the real meaning was different from the literal one? You’ve heard of those, right?

          • QuadGMoto

            Words can be used allegorically or metaphorically if that is what the context indicates. Claiming that they’re always such just brings you back around to fancy grunting. It’s crystal clear from everything you posted here that fancy grunting is your thing. Good luck with that. (Not that it will help you in the end.)

          • PilatesQuestion

            The New Covenant already picked and chose what parts of the Old Covenant we follow because Jesus fulfilled parts of the Old Covenant we could not.
            The easiest ways to determine what we should follow are exegesis and checking the Old Testament against the New Testament.

          • oconnellc

            Depending on what part of the NT you read, none of the OT applies anymore. How do you decide which part of the NT you read? I’ve read lots of parts that make it seem like the OT is out the window… Again, how do you justify ignoring those parts in favor of others?

            But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.

            So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.

          • PilatesQuestion

            That’s not what that passage says. This passage is referring to the Pharisaical commentary on the Law.

          • oconnellc

            I disagree. It couldn’t be more clear what it is referring to. Especially since the Old Testament didn’t exist as we know it when that passage was created. It was clearly referring to the law before Jesus and how Jesus came to replace it. How can you have so little belief in what Jesus came to do?

          • PilatesQuestion

            The Torah existed intact for many, many years. Yes, this passage is referring to a commentary on the Law which was written by the Pharisees and was legalistic heresy. These are the same writings which Jesus attacked.
            Jesus came to fulfill the Old Covenant, as I said before. In this way, we are no longer under the requirement of blood sacrifice or stoning since Jesus was the final sacrifice for us all and died with the sins of humanity upon Himself.
            I understand your questions, and I appreciate the civil dialog. But I think all of this really boils down to one question: what do you think is the origin of morality?

          • oconnellc

            It boils down to more than one question… What is the current definition of morality, regardless of who it is from? At a certain time, was it immoral for a black man to kiss or marry a white woman? Is it immoral now? That question is independent of whether or not morality came from God or from man. Morals have changed, from God, as time has passed.

            Second, how do you decide which requirements we are no longer under? How do you reconcile the fact that Jesus was known to speak using allegory, yet you choose to take certain of his words for their exact literal meaning and others are taken as metaphors?

          • PilatesQuestion

            Morals do not change. That’s the paradigm shift that must occur in our society. Higher moral law has been in place since before the universe, and we all innately know it. That’s why you object to the interracial relationship ban you mentioned. Civil law is constantly changing, but higher moral law never does.
            By seeing which requirements Jesus fulfilled. He fulfilled the blood sacrifice requirements and the physical stoning requirements. Jesus did speak in parables, but He mostly spoke plainly.

          • oconnellc

            Actually, he spoke in parables a lot. And you don’t get to decide which parts he fulfilled. He fulfilled the old law. That means all of it. He explicitly said that the law hung on two things, love God and love your neighbor.

            And don’t act like you are answering my question when you aren’t. What is immoral has changed. It is ok for a black man to kiss a white woman now, without getting burned out of his house, or arrested. Actually, it was always moral, just that some people who think they are God decided to act as though they know more than they do. And that is still happening. God said that he reserves the right to look in a mans heart. And you never, no matter how many times I say it, address that. You can’t get around the fact that no matter what other words you either choose to interpret literally or as allegory (almost randomly, I might add), you never address those. God said that sin is in a mans heart and you need to look there to see sin. Jesus said that the old law wouldn’t change or go away, until it was fulfilled. And then he fulfilled it. And he gave us the law that replaced it. And you pick and choose. Do you honestly expect anyone to take you seriously when you think you know which parts of the old law he fulfilled and which he didn’t. Arrogance is the only word to describe someone who thinks that much of themselves.

          • oconnellc

            Jesus said that the old law would not go away until it was fulfilled. And then he fulfilled it. That means that the old law was replaced by the new law, Jesus. And his commandments are pretty clear. Love God and love your neighbor. I don’t see anything about going on TV in there. Why do you?

          • PilatesQuestion

            Yes, and He was referring to higher moral law and the Ten Commandments. There is no new law, only a New Covenant.
            No one’s required to go TV, lol. We are required to preach the Gospel, however.

          • oconnellc

            You’re arguing semantics, so you can hide behind a twisted definition of words. God makes it abundantly clear in the bible that sin is judged by looking inside a (wo)man. It is made abundantly clear that Jesus doesn’t like people who take it upon themselves to decide who is sinning and who isn’t. Given all the admissions by Christians of all the sinning that they have in front of them, you’d think there would be the tiniest bit of humility. There would be the tiniest bit of hesitation before deciding to call out the actions of others. You’d think that Broussard might have said “I have enough sin of my own to deal with that I can’t comment on the actions of others”. Why don’t you think that that would carry a powerful message to people who are sinning? Why do you not think that the Bible means it when it says that God has a hand on the whole judging thing and you don’t need to worry about it?

        • PilatesQuestion

          I’m glad you brought this up; this is an interesting conversation that needs to be had.
          Basically, there are two covenants: Old and New. Jesus fulfilled the Old, which is why we don’t stone people for every sin anymore and why we don’t have blood sacrifices anymore. However, we are still in the New Covenant and this covenant carried over all moral laws from the Old Covenant.

          Therefore:
          -Bearing a grudge is as bad as committing a homosexual act (I understand what you mean when you say that some Christians single out homosexuality as a ‘worse’ sin and this annoys me too; all sin is equal in the sight of God)
          -Not mixing fabrics is logical but no longer required since we don’t have to camp out in the desert these days
          -Only certain ethnic Jews were required to trim their beards for certain occasions
          -Disrespect for anyone is as bad as a homosexual act, but the exact passage you are referring to escapes me at the moment
          -Skipping church on purpose is as bad as a homosexual act

          • Iris

            “All sin is equal in the sight of God.”

            Not so. Some sin is venial and some mortal. Stealing a candy bar is a sin, but certainly not to the level of murder. While homosexual acts are not the only ones, they are a mortal sin, worse than being ‘disrespectful’ to someone which would be venial sin. Jesus Himself said there were unequal sins when He said, “Therefore, he that hath delivered me to thee, hath the greater sin.”

          • PilatesQuestion

            I think what you mean is that all sins are equal in the sight of God, yet every sin has different consequences from all the others, as well as different levels of severity in consequences.
            But one lie is no better and no worse than one homosexual act, and so on.

          • Rayberay

            You might be confusing Protestant Christianity with Catholicism, which have two different doctrines. Catholic traditional teachings dictate which sins are “venial” and can be repaid (either here on earth or in purgatory), but some are “mortal” and WILL send you to hell immediately.

            Protestant Christianity holds that every single sin–either of body or mind–is enough to send you to hell right away. This is where the concept of “all sins equal”.
            Jesus didn’t say that sins are unequal…he was mentioning how Judas chose to reject the Holy Spirit speaking to him through Jesus’ teaching. When someone rejects the Holy Spirit, they are not spiritually able to come to faith and thus, are guaranteed to suffer eternally.

        • QuadGMoto

          In every single case, the law you referenced was explicitly directed to “the sons of Israel” or “the sons of Aaron” (i.e., Levites, a subset of the “sons of Israel”.) In other words, they were given only to the Nation of Israel, not all people for all times.

          On the other hand Romans 1 is explicitly addressing the condition of all mankind:

          For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

          Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.

          For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

          And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.
          — Romans 1:18–32

          Gee, that sure reads like open rebellion to me!

          • https://twitter.com/Captain_Cy_kun Cy

            Ok, so I was wrong. I can admit that. But if he had that passage in mind then he probably thinks homosexuals “deserve to die” as it says at the end, if so, then he’s true to his religion, but I can’t think of him as anything other than intolerant scum. And if he doesn’t think they deserve to die, then isn’t he going against the word of God himself? Real, serious question, I’m legitimately curious.

          • QuadGMoto

            “intolerant scum”

            Why are you being intolerant?

          • QuadGMoto

            We all deserve to die for our sins. (Which is what Paul goes on to say in Romans 3, especially verse 23, and Romans 6, especially verse 23.) But because Christ came to pay that penalty (in the same general sense someone else can pay a traffic fine), we can be forgiven for those sins if we repent (literally: change our minds) and follow Him. (Confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord [i.e., master] and believe in your heart that He rose from the dead.)

            This does not change what is and is not sin. If we do something wrong, we have still done something wrong, even if we have been forgiven for that wrong. And there are still natural consequences.

            On the other hand, if someone is in open rebellion against God, they have—by defniition—not repented, nor accepted Jesus Christ as Lord. Therefore, they have not received the forgiveness (grace) which is available to them, and therefore they will receive the punishment that is due.

    • J. Cox

      Bigotry?I am sure you can verify how each and every person who “pick and chooses” what part they believe in,live the rest of their lives right?No…then the rest of your comment is just asinine.

    • KansasGirl

      Soooo, I guess you would consider Jason Collins an idiot also?
      Or could it be that you and Jason are pushing a political agenda…
      If you want to direct your anger at religion, I suggest you direct it towards homosexual priests that have sexually assaulted young Catholic boys.
      Let’s not forget homosexual Scout Masters that have done the same to young boys in their troops.
      Your phony outrage should be directed at the problem that you chose to ignore.

      • https://twitter.com/Captain_Cy_kun Cy

        Outrage? What did I get outraged about? I just said in my opinion the guy is an idiot. Want me to go into detail? He’s an idiot because all the Christians I know, and I know a lot, focus more of the “forgiveness” part than the “homosexuals are evil” part. There are a LOT of outdated things in the Bible that most Christians ignore daily, a good bunch of them from Leviticus. I don’t see why this one thing is so much more important to people if it’s not them trying to justify their own bigotry and backwards thinking.

        And I DO have outrage (real outrage) when children get molested, but I’d no more imply that all priests or scout masters are child abusers than I’d imply all gay are.

        • J. Cox

          Again..quoting from leviticus does not make you a theologian.Look up the word Grace for starters..then try to place the bible in its ENTIRETY in context.You do that,then come back and maybe we can talk.

        • KansasGirl

          Who said homosexuals are evil?
          As far as Jesus forgiving sin…don’t forget he also said sin no more.
          Funny about the scouts though, extreme leftist are trying to force this organization to accept homosexuals…all for diversity.
          I’d like to ask your opinion of NAMBLA? That is another organization the left looooves.
          Also, if people want their eyes opened, I suggest they google Gay Pride Parade, San Francisco. These freaks perform sexual acts in front of children, but it’s just FABULOUS, don’t cha know.

      • oconnellc

        Are you one of those idiots who doesn’t know the difference between homosexual and pedophile?

        • Hanoverfist

          Why don’t you go follow your enlighten religion.
          Oh wait, they hang gays from cranes.
          Go take your sanctimonious crap and stuff it.

          • Filthy Liar

            Ah, so because “enlighten religion” does a terrible thing it’s okay for you to do a less terrible thing.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            What terrible thing are we doing? Disagreeing with you in a calm respectful manner? How dare us.

          • Hanoverfist

            Only if you believe telling the truth a less terrible thing.

          • oconnellc

            So, do you know the difference?

          • Hanoverfist

            I do.
            You like mocking people of the Christian faith so much, I wonder if you really do,or is it because its now the hip,cool thing to do?

          • oconnellc

            You do. Then why wouldn’t you stand up and do the right thing and correct Kansas Girl? Why wouldn’t you feel that her slander of gay people deserves your judgement? Is it because you aren’t really interested in doing the right thing? Is it because you are a hypocrite? Jesus, it is like you haven’t actually read any of the things that a Christian is really supposed to do. You just focus on the fun parts like the judging and the blaming. Ignore the parts that make it seem like God can handle that without you.

        • KansasGirl

          I know the difference…I think they’re both a problem in society.

          • oconnellc

            So if you know that they are different, why would you intentionally confuse them? What kind of person are you? How do you feel if I intentionally refer to “pedophile Christians who sexually assault young boys”, when we both know that being a Christian and being a pedophile are far from the same thing. You know what else is a problem in society? Arrogant girls from Kansas who don’t feel that they actually need to follow any of the teachings of the religion they claim to follow. I guess you are making it easy for the rest of us to identify you as ‘not Christian’, though.

          • KansasGirl

            I didn’t confuse them…I lumped them together. You know, six of one…half a dozen of the other.
            You know what else is a problem in your little society? A girl from Kansas.

          • oconnellc

            So if you know they are different, why lump them together in a way intentionally intended to confuse your actual intent. God, if all Christians are like you, no wonder you are losing respect at every turn and Christians are fleeing churches. What kind of miserable, dishonest person you must be… How pathetic do you feel about yourself that you find yourself going on the internet to do such horrible dishonest things. I would expect behavior like that from a progressive, but from someone who claims to be Christian and to have their life influenced by Christ? You have either completely fooled yourself or are trying to fool everyone else. Either way, it is apparent that you are a dishonest, miserable person. You can call me any name you want and I can live with it. But for someone who presumably considers themselves a Christian, I would think that you would recoil at your own behavior. How do you sleep?

  • daPenguin

    I am growing quite tired of the God Bless (insert liberal cause here) statements these last few weeks. Does any thinking person really believe that the true GOD would bless such things as this or infanticide?

    • http://www.facebook.com/luke.givens.963 Luke Givens

      Feel free to spend some time in Deuteronomy, Numbers or Joshua, your true GOD would bless infanticide and plenty of other things.

      • Joe W.

        The Old Testament is NOT the New Testament, Luke. The New Testament is what Christians live by. Jesus Christ paid the price of mankind’s sins on the cross at Calvary. The New Testament is all about the birth, life, death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ and our faith was founded upon that. Hence the name. The books you cite are not the law that Christians are bound by. You really ought to read the book, Sonny. There is even a book called the Gospel according to Luke…your namesake.

        • Junie3

          I think if we don’t live by the law, then murder is okay, it’s one of the 10 and it is in the book of Laws. The book that God spoke to Moses and told him to write it down. Not done away with, jots and tittles are there and the earth is still here.

          • Joe W.

            You are over simplifying things a bit, Junie. There is not enough time or space to get into the meat of educating you on Christianity and the Old Testament. I would suggest that you actually take the time to study the subject and avoid making such foolish comments about murder being O.K.

          • Junie3

            Joe, You can’t educate me on the bible, because you’re not literate in it. You believe the devils lie that it’s done away with, yet Jesus said Matt 23:1-12: “Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, v.2 saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. “Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do. “For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. “But all their works they do to be seen by men. They make their phylacteries broad and enlarge the borders of their garments. “They love the best places at feasts, the best seats in the synagogues, “greetings in the marketplaces, and to be called by men, ‘Rabbi, Rabbi.’ “But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi’; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren. “Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. “And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ. “But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. “And whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.” If you knew your bible, you’d realize the numerous times Jesus referenced it. He was the Word (Torah) made flesh andd that is what he taught. You can’t be part of the bride if that’s done away with. I’d suggest doing what I did, get out of the Christian churches, keep the Sat Sabbath and ask God to teach you and show you. Study the Torah.

          • Joe W.

            You do not know what you are talking about, Junie. But Bless your little heart anyway….

        • oconnellc

          So then it would be downright silly of a Christian to quote Leviticus when discussing the requirements of Christianity, then, wouldn’t it? Jesus said that there were two laws. He said that he had come to replace the old laws with the new ones. Love God and Love your neighbor. You really got to stretch to say that you follow about 15 words from the Old Testament but ignore all the other ones that are inconvenient for you.

          • Joe W.

            Where did I say such a thing, Christopher?? I can’t seem to find those words. I said essentially the same thing that YOU did, pal. In a nut shell, Jesus was a Jew. The Bible’s OT is God’s word as written for the Jews. In fact, non Messianic Jews, (orthodox), are still bound by the old law as they do not accept Jesus as the Messiah. Christians are NOT bound by the old law thanks to the Grace of God through Jesus Christ. Again, over simplified, but my point was to instruct Luke that we were not bound by . Just because you are homosexual, Princess, it does not give you the right to interpret the Bible your way nor to change the laws of marriage to excuse your sins. That’s not how it works.

          • oconnellc

            “Princess”. Nice. Is that in the NT or the OT? You know, the fact that I’m not gay really just makes you a double douche bag on that one. The fact that I’m not a bigot just probably makes us mortal enemies. I see you didn’t miss a chance to throw a few stones while you were at it, though. Nice job. You’re a pretty good Christian, from what I can tell.

            I was flipping through the NT and I noticed that part in Luke about how marriage is actually defined by the court house and how you have fill out the form and check with the judge and certify that you aren’t related to the person you want to marry. I assume that is what you are talking about, right? All the rules at the county courthouse? The Bible talks about that, right? So that is why you are such a stickler for the rules and making sure that having a judge duly elected in the local elections is a key part of marriage, as defined by the Bible, right? You hypocritical, arrogant douche bag.

          • Joe W.

            Wow…nice rant, Cupcake. When did I ever even mention courts and judges?? I care not a whit about man’s “laws” you moron. I am referring to the Biblical definition of marriage. As for your other disparaging remarks regarding my character, I don’t really care what you or any other homosexual thinks of me, Sonny. Your ignorance and your foolishness is astounding. But I’ll pray for you anyway.

          • http://twitter.com/mayjordan Jordan May

            Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

            Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.

            Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

            Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

            Actually quoted from the book of Matthew. IF these two loves were to be fulfilled perfectly then Bible from cover to cover would be fulfilled.

          • teamfrazzled

            Are you under the impression when it says something like “G*d spoke to the children of Israel..”, He was actually talking to gentiles centuries in the future and really wasn’t speaking to a very specific people about a specific event or specific issue? G*d’s Chosen People are not Christians and the children of Israel are not gentiles or Christians. The Old Testament is not the history of Christian followers of Jesus Christ but the history, stories, background, understanding and foundation of the root upon which Christianity has been grafted. Christianity cannot and could not exist without the existence of Judaism -but they are not one and the same and Christianity is not a sect of Judaism. The Old Testament is not about Christians -it is about the relationship between G*d and His chosen people right up to the time of Christ’s birth -and without this critical foundation, you cannot possibly have a clear understanding of Christianity itself or even realize Jews and Christians are worshipping the same, one and true G*d.

          • Rayberay

            Well said.
            In addition, not only does the Old Testament serve as a history of God’s promise to his people, it also serves to point ahead to Christ as the true Messiah, who would come to the Jewish people. The Old Testament also highlights the faith people had in this promise of the Messiah, and how this faith in Christ, who would come, is the same as the faith we have today in Christ, who HAS come and fulfilled the OT Messianic promise.

      • alittleunwell

        Please please teach us and point out specifically what verses you speak of and interpret them for us please. Don’t forget to interpret according to the Biblical writers intent.
        Surly this will be no hardship for you, so please enlighten us all.

        • oconnellc

          Wow, you just used the best argument against yourself. The Old Testament writers original intent was to get a small group of people to survive when surrounded by larger and more powerful enemies. They created rules about eating certain foods because it kept them from dying of food poisoning. They knew that they needed to have lots of children to keep their tribes going, so they had to have every woman pregnant as often as possible. They couldn’t afford to have women who weren’t having sex with men. They couldn’t afford to have widows who didn’t get remarried to men who didn’t have some biological/family reason to care for any children the woman already had. Do you really think it is a sin not to follow the rules about who a widow should remarry? Wow, talk about not understanding… Did you really mean to come up with the best reason for why you are wrong to believe what you believe?

          • Hanoverfist

            You are a f*cking coward,you really are.
            They are calling it a sin and asking homosexuality not be pushed down their throat. Be glad they’re not the Religion of Peace(tm) and slitting your throat.

          • oconnellc

            Wow, I’m a coward? Nice of you to insert a little veiled threat. You’re a pretty good Christian. You are obviously able to tell the difference between legal marriage, which has nothing to do with religion or God and never has, and religious marriage, which has nothing to do with the law and never has. But, it isn’t enough for you to celebrate the religious kind with idiots who believe the same way you do. You feel like your religion requires that you control the legal kind to.

            Jesus would have railed against your arrogant hypocrisy. You sure follow all the fun Christian edicts. But so much for turning the other cheek or withholding judgement or having a little humility. I can live with you calling me a bad Christian. My guess is that your failings keep you up at night, don’t they? God forbid you not have control over legal contracts between people that have nothing to do with you. You make me sick.

          • truebeliever101

            “Christian” means one who follows the teachings of, and strives to emulate the character and actions of Christ. God created and loves every one of his creation. However, He is a purely holy and righteous God and cannot look upon sin. That is why He became flesh and bore the punishment of all sin on the cross of salvation. Our ONLY requirement to have complete forgiveness is to put away the ways of the world and commit our lives to loving and serving Him. The blessings that flow from following Christ are beyond our comprehension. But, as loving and forgiving as God is, there is a limit to His patience. Every person will one day stand before Holy God and be judged on the life he has lived. If that life was one that loved and sought Christ, there will be eternal life with God. For the one that rejects God, eternity will be spent in a place of eternal torment. I hope people can understand that WE do not get to choose what is good and what is not. God has already done that, and He gives us the blueprint for life in his word, the Bible. He also gives us free will. WE get to CHOOSE the life we lead. We can live according to His commands, or we can live in rebellion to His commands. The choice is ours, but so are the consequences of our choices. The Bible calls Christians to love everyone, as in the person, but it also instructs Christians that as they express love towards those living in open sin, DO NOT get caught up in that sin. We are always to speak the truth, in love. If I truly believe, with all my heart, that the lifestyle of my brother will lead to his eternal damnation, not telling him that and allowing him to seek the truth for himself would not be love. As Christians we do not speak the truth of scripture in order to condemn or show hate, we do it to share a valuable lifesaving fact. God wants not one soul to be lost, and He commands us to share that gospel. It is not because we hate sinners, as we are ourselves sinners. We know where we came from, that a loving God rescued us from a miry pit of sin. Even with that, we will still stumble and fall into sin, but that should always lead to a contrite and saddened heart that seeks forgiveness. I hope you can forgive any “Christian” who has approached you in a self-righteous or unforgiving manner, as that is not what the Christian is called to do. But at the same time we are called to speak the truth in love, and direct anyone who will listen toward a loving and forgiving God. Sometimes God’s truth is hard to hear, because we all need to feel good about ourselves. But the truth is, God gets to decide what is right and what is not. We get to decide whether to follow Him or live in open rebellion.

            n,

      • J. Cox

        And this is the reason you have no understanding of God,or His laws.

      • Junie3

        Please show us the scripture where God didn’t say it was an abomination, and the one where Isaiah said it never crossed his mind that women would sacrifice their children, or the one where God said murdering your children was okay with him.

      • CrossHugger

        You are a liar…..Read it before you trash it then read it again……

        • oconnellc

          Wow. Someone hit a little close to home, didn’t they. Be careful what you decide to interpret literally. There are a lot of literal instructions there…

      • CrossHugger

        You are a liar…..Read it before you trash it then read it again……

      • QuadGMoto

        God soundly condemned infanticide as one of the most heinous crimes possible in the Old Testament, but you’re trying to claim the exact opposite? Seriously?!?

      • truebeliever101

        If the “infanticide” you refer to is the times God commanded the Jews to wipe out the enemy from eldest to youngest, then you also have to understand the context of the times. These events in history were BEFORE the covenant of Grace, where God provided a sacrifice for sin on behalf of mankind. It was not uncommon in the OT for God to strike dead a sinner, right there on the spot, or command his people to wipe out tribes of waring idol worshippers bent on the destruction of God’s people. The wages of sin IS death. A truly Holy God cannot look upon sin and therefore, before the sacrifice of Christ, people were often annhiliated for the sake of sin. Even the Jews themselves. The purpose of the original law was to show mankind his inability to be righteous and his need for a savior. God loves us so much, he provided the perfect, one-time sacrifice in the person of Jesus Christ. If we believe in that, and live our lives striving to honor and serve Him, we will not stand before God in judgement, as Jesus has already done that on our behalf. God has NEVER condoned child sacrifice. There was the time of Abraham and Issac where God tested Abraham’s faith, but God’s law clearly says we are not to kill, one can only conclude-especially not the weakest among us.

    • Harlan Hikaru Fox

      To them, The State is god.

      • Red Fred

        Since by their disobedient lifestyle they prove what God says is not as important as what their libido dictates, not sure why they are insulted. Most say there is no God. This man told the truth, the politically incorrect truth, if you subscribe to Judeo-Christian spiritual beliefs.

        • oconnellc

          And he held himself up as the judge of them and their behavior. He is free to do it. He just isn’t being a Christian when he does it. I hope he went and repented after he gave his sanctimonious little speech.

  • http://pinterest.com/j0s1395/ Josephine (D)

    Um, homosexual behavior is a sin, in all three Abrahamic religions.

    Hey, Paul Begala: the Bible does say not to judge others, but that doesn’t mean we just sit back and continue to live a sinful, not to mention harmful, lifestyle. It’s not like Broussard said that Collins will go to hell. Funny how libs alternately use the Bible to justify their own beliefs and to discredit Christianity.

    • Rosalie

      And we all know that Begala does not judge others.

      • dwok

        The “Forehead” is all knowing.

    • Christoph DeHaven

      Quite right. And reading the anti-Broussard comments, you’ll find these apostles of tolerance have no problem condemning HIM to Hell.

    • oconnellc

      He did say that Collins wasn’t a Christian. Does committing any sin get you kicked out? Or just gay sins? Are the only people who are Christian the ones who don’t commit sins any more? Where in the world does Broussard get off deciding who is Christian and who isn’t (I think he said something like ‘open rebellion God and Jesus’)? He could have said that he thinks it is a sin and left it at that. But he didn’t. He went full on. Be careful what mistakes you may make or what sins you commit. Broussard will be telling the universe that you are rebelling against God. Unless you don’t sin? I know he was asked what he thought, but I don’t recall him making any kind of statements like this about all the hetero players who have long histories of fathering children out of wedlock and with different women, do you? Is there some kind of substantive difference between the sin of being gay and the sin of pre (and extra) marital sex?

      • Red Fred

        It’s that pesky little prerequisite that Christ requires, called repentance, (turning away from) things listed as sins. The scripture says sexual sin is the only one that involves the body, the temple of the Holy Spirit, so it’s pretty serious.

        • oconnellc

          Right. And fathering multiple children with multiple different women probably qualifies for ‘sexual sin’ wouldn’t you think? Do you ever recall hearing this guy make any comment about that? It is almost a running joke about guys from the NBA having children in every city. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nba+players+with+multiple+kids

          Wouldn’t that call for the same treatment? Couldn’t you say that living that heterosexual lifestyle is open rebellion to God? Weird that we don’t get many people talking about Leviticus when it comes to heterosexuals committing sin.

          Weird that scripture would be so inconsistent to say that sexual sin is the only one that involves the body. Would you call being lazy a sin? Gluttony? How much research do you supposed we would have to do to find other sins that involve the body?

      • truebeliever101

        there is no difference, and that is what Mr. Broussard said. It’s all sin in God’s eyes. Mr. Broussard was asked about his opinion based on his Christian beliefs and he gave it. If people don’t want to hear what a Chrisitan believes, they shouldn’t ask. If they are asked but brush off the question, you call them a hypocrite. If they give an honest answer, you call then a hater. The Bible IS the Word of God, and we will all be judged according to it in the end. People just don’t want to hear that because it gets in the way of our living however we pelase. To be clear, NO ONE IS WITHOUT SIN. That is why we needed a savior, and because God loves us so much, He gave us one. Chrisitanity IS love.

        • oconnellc

          No. A true Christian would just come out and say “As a Christian, I believe that God loves all people, even though he may not love their behavior all the time”. A Christian wouldn’t try to attract attention to themselves or try to embarrass anyone. Seriously, he said “open rebellion to God”! Think about what he said. No Christian even thinks that about other people, much less comes out and says it.

          • teamfrazzled

            The fact G*d loves you doesn’t mean He will forgive you without your sincere repentance. He won’t, He specifically says so. Some Christians mistakenly believe they are required to do something G*d Himself said He will never do -and that is forgive someone who not only does not repent his sin, but has no use for His forgiveness either. Christians are OBLIGATED to urge people to reject sin and instead follow G*d’s immutable laws. You obviously don’t understand the most basic premise of Christianity which is inclusive and loving. Christians aren’t urging others to reject sin because of some weird “arrogance” but because their religion and their faith demands they CARE. They care a whole lot more about your welfare, especially eternal welfare -than the godless atheist and godless left which applauds, encourages and rewards those who wallow in every conceivable immorality while damning those who care so much they are pleading with you to make another choice. Who do you really reserve your scorn for says it all -not for those urging on and applauding the greater and greater acceptance by society of a blatant rejection of G*d, but for those insisting your decisions have eternal consequences and BEGGING you to make a different choice. If Christians didn’t love their fellow man, none would care what YOU do, none would care what society itself does -they would selfishly only care about their own welfare. But all actions, all decisions -have very real consequences. Some are in this life only, some are eternal but THOSE are the ones so easily avoided and no Christian living in accordance with his faith would sit silently by while watching you make poor, poor decisions when they know you have the means to avoid the consequences for those poor decisions and only need to be urged to change your mind. For YOUR welfare -not that of the Christian.

          • oconnellc

            Why do you confuse a Christian trying to help someone who they feel is making wrong choices with a reporter going on camera making a statement that someone is living in rebellion to God? Are you really that simple?

          • teamfrazzled

            He called it for what it is and didn’t sugarcoat it. A society that openly embraces, rewards, encourages and celebrates immorality and sin is in open rebellion against G*d. Nothing nice or warm and fuzzy about that even though people like you prefer politically correct over truth. In fact you demand politically correct over truth. But it’s not as if ours the first ever to do that where there could be some doubt or question about what one looks like.

          • oconnellc

            No. I demand that you act like the person you scream you are. A Christian knows how imperfect he is. He doesn’t stand up and declare that someone else is in rebellion to God. Do you just ignore all those things that Jesus said about not attracting attention to yourself, to not making a spectacle of yourself, about the Lord having to look at a persons heart to determine if they are a sinner? It is nothing but arrogance and hypocrisy that allows you to ignore all of that in favor of the parts that let you stand up and proclaim to the world that you are a Christian and others are not. You’re supposed to be known by what you do, not by what you say. Yet you go out of your way to defend a Christian’s ability to say what they want, when by the words of Jesus you shouldn’t be saying anything.

            You can invent any religion you want and pay attention to the parts of the Bible that make you feel good, but don’t insult real Christians by confusing the way you act with them.

          • oconnellc

            Why do you confuse a Christian trying to help someone who they feel is making wrong choices with a reporter going on camera making a statement that someone is living in rebellion to God? Are you really that simple?

          • truebeliever101

            Sorry, but if you truly believe what the Bible says, it says we are to discern between what is right and what is wrong. Also, when a brother sins, we are to admonish them in love, for their soul’s sake. Christians are to do and say everything in love, but they are called to speak the truth of God’s word. While God does love all people, his patience is not infinite, and He gives us everything we need to know in order to seek a lifestyle that is pleasing to Him. It is ultimately our choice how we live, but God will be the judge in the end. ANY sin we continue to commit and flaunt in the face of God will be applied to our account in judgement. If the commentator did not want to hear Mr. Broussard’s answer, he should not have asked the question. Mr. Broussard is being accused of “hate.” To me, it seems much more hateful to have information that could potentially save a person’s soul not share it. He wasn’t pushing it on anyone. He was stating his belief based on his unsderstanding of God’s Word. That is what he is called to do as a Christian.

          • oconnellc

            Why is it that a Christian never seems to see those parts of the Bible that state that God says that only he can see into a mans heart and that is the way to judge a man? Why do so many Christians just completely ignore those lines in favor of the lines that seem to give them permission to be judgemental jerks. Even if you thought that both lines were legit (despite the obvious contradictions), why pick the ones that make you act like a jerk. It is so obvious what Jesus thought about people who are judgemental and who attract attention to themselves and their faith… Why not by default decide to be that kind of Christian? Why choose to be the kind so obviously at odds with everything Christ stood for?

      • http://twitter.com/mayjordan Jordan May

        Broussard: “Personally, I don’t believe that you can live an openly homosexual lifestyle or an openly premarital sex between heterosexuals” … whatever it may be, not just homosexuality, adultery, fornication, premarital sex between heterosexuals, whatever it may be”

        Clearly somebody didnt catch all of what Broussard said about not only homosexuality but all forms of fornication

      • Joe W.

        Where in the world do YOU get off on calling ME a “pretty good Christian”, Princess??

        • oconnellc

          Princess? What are you, some learning disabled 8 year old? Princess? Holy crap, the stupid hurts my mind. Are you thinking to yourself “Hey, I can get this guy. I’ll call him princess and all the other kids will laugh.” What a moron.

          I do want you to know that if I ever did anything that even intimated that you were a good Christian, I didn’t mean it. I’m sure that is apparent to everyone reading anything you write, but it seems like it wasn’t clear to you.

          • Joe W.

            Hey loudmouth, I was simply quoting your earlier post to me. You are so stupid you cannot even recall the garbage you spew moments after you spew it. Must be the gay gene or something, eh Thweetie??

          • oconnellc

            Thweetie! Even better. Holy crap. I thought that Needlenose was funny. But this is like… funny! I mean, some people thought that Steve Martin was funny. And then there is Aziz… But Joe, this is like a whole new you. You’re like an onion. Layers. That’s what it is. Layers. Like, a funny layer, with an even funnier layer underneath. See, it was like, I’m gay, so you are gonna call me sweetie. But then, since gay people all have a lisp, you called me Thweetie. See, it is gay and gayer. That is why it is funny. Cause no one has ever done that before. You just invented a whole new genre of humor. You could put the lisp thing on all the names. Printheth. Needlenothe. Like, the possibilities are endless. Because it’s funny.

          • Joe W.

            You make it too easy, Fudgepacker. You really do. You make it fun to mock, because it’s clear that I am striking the very nerve center of your miserable psyche. You are a parody of yourself, sonny.

          • oconnellc

            Fudgepacker! I thought I had seen the limit of humor, but then this. I’m sure that Jesus is looking down on you now and saying “Joe, you are the kind of Christian that makes me proud”. Your grandparents are up there in heaven, just smiling. When you die, you’ll be up there with them. And you’ll all proudly reminisce on when you defended your Christian faith by calling someone a Fudgepacker (too bad, no ‘ss’ sounds to do the funny lisp thing).

            You do realize the irony of you calling me a parody of myself, don’t you? I mean, really… you defend Christianity by calling people names? And do you think that makes you a good Christian or a bad one? Lets see… Where would Jesus stand on calling people names? Has he ever said anything about how to respond to people who you think attack you? Nah, probably not. That was all covered in Leviticus.

            And the really funny part? I’m not gay. Isn’t that odd? Think about that. If I was gay, why would calling me gay bother me? Since I’m not gay, why would calling me gay bother me? I’d love to hear you rationalize this one.

          • Joe W.

            First off, if you are not gay, why then, have you spent the better part of 2 days trying to convince everyone that 1. Homosexual behavior is NOT sinful, & 2. Christians are not Christians because they aren’t like Jesus?? Like all people, Sonny, I am a sinner and I am no where near the caliber of Jesus Christ. Yep…I call people like you names and I sometimes treat you homosexuals with contempt. I am also aware that when I do this I am sinning. Just as YOU are sinning when you and your boyfriend play “hide the salami”. The difference between the two of us is that I recognize my sin and I honestly bow before God in prayer DAILY, and acknowledge my sinful behavior and repent of it. I really do try to not repeat the sin, but when I encounter moon bats like you, the devil gets to me and I sin. Believe me, I was much worse and I have actually been much less disdainful and hateful towards you than other homosexuals I have encountered in past times. Like all Christians, I am a “work in progress”.

          • Christian Orpinell

            Chris is concerned with the very fact that people disagree with him. In fact, he’s wasting his time as he hasn’t made it clear as to what exactly he’s aim is within these comments. I’ve read at a least a good deal / portion of his comments (took a while actually), and it’s just a ton of fancy grunting.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1130629591 Mark Youngkin

    If ESPN disciplines Broussard, will they also discipline the anchor who noted that in the SI piece Jason Collins considers himself a Christian and asked Broussard, “What do you think?”

  • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

    You either respect my tolerance for everyone but you conservative, christian, free-thinking individual or you’re a R.A.C.I.S.T said anyone associate with NOH8

  • dwok

    Chris Broussard, you now have a new fan. Thank you for standing by your convictions, even though it could mean your job.

  • MurphTacular

    Was a fan of both Boussard AND Jason Collins before today, and I still am. People can disagree about religion. Surely, that’s not news.

    • dwok

      Give me a break, Jason Collins has been a bench warmer for the bulk of his career. What it is his PPG avg. 3.5? I don’t doubt you like him now and it’s not for his basketball prowess (if you know what I mean).

      • MurphTacular

        Not true, I always rooted for the ol’ Nets teams he was on for years along with w/ J-Kidd and Richard Jefferson. Again, I’m a big pro hoops fan, I understand if you’ve never met one before. LOL.

        • dwok

          “I understand if you’ve never met one before”

          What’s that? A gay basketball fan? You may have “rooted” for the Nets but I highly doubt that Jason Collins was on your radar…..maybe your gaydar.

          Look I’m a Bulls fan that goes back to the era of Orlando Woolridge and Charles Oakley. While I may have been a fan of those teams, I can’t say that I was ever a fan of Granville Waiters because I wasn’t….he sucked. I liked the team but Ole Granville simply sucked….kind of like Jason Collins.

          • MurphTacular

            FWIW, I’m not gay, but as a one-time Utah Jazz fan AND a Nets fan, it was pretty tough not to be aware of the Collins twins. And that was a nice attempt at sophomoric humor there with the ‘suck’ joke. And by the way, I liked Granville Waiters, too, going back to when he played for Ohio State. :>

          • dwok

            Come on!!!! You can’t be serious? Granville was terrible.

            BTW, how about the sophomoric attempt with gaydar?

            Appreciate your sense of humor. Too many sensitive people in this world. Considering I’m an equal opportunity offender, it takes the fun out of it.

          • MurphTacular

            Yep. In the early ’80s ol’ Granville was hard to miss: a virtually, completely bald-headed, bearded man playing COLLEGE ball with a virtually unique name … That’s got to be SOME kind of enhanced-dar, at least …
            And, FYI: Wiki tells me that Granville averaged 2.7 pts per game and was in the NBA for SIX seasons … Didn’t realize he stuck around THAT long … LOL.

          • MurphTacular

            Yep. In the early ’80s ol’ Granville was hard to miss: a virtually, completely bald-headed, bearded man playing COLLEGE ball with a virtually unique name … That’s got to be SOME kind of enhanced-dar, at least …
            And, FYI: Wiki tells me that Granville averaged 2.7 pts per game and was in the NBA for SIX seasons … Didn’t realize he stuck around THAT long … LOL.

    • nc

      Blimey! Someone who makes sense. Except for the last part. Sadly, this is making news.

  • http://www.facebook.com/brett.mcmicken Brett McMicken

    There’s a special place in hell for bigots like you,

    ————————
    Wow! Sounds like someone is into judging people.

    • Red Fred

      Telling people what the Bible says is not “judging” it’s education.

      • http://www.facebook.com/brett.mcmicken Brett McMicken

        i was responding to one of the tweets highlighted above

  • [email protected]

    Collins did not have a professional obligation to remain objective. Broussard did.

    • Hanoverfist

      HAHAHA*gasp*HAHAHA.
      *wipes tear* Obectivity in media oh that’s a good one.
      Wait. You were serious?

  • http://twitter.com/billwennersten Bill Wennersten

    Disagreement does not equate to hate or phobia. Where is the reasoned argument to support your position? Is it only emotive and based in want or is there something more that speaks to our humanity?

  • Rich

    Last time I checked it was Adam and Eve. Not Adam and Steve.

  • teamfrazzled

    Aah- more atheist liberals insisting they know the Bible and how Christianity is supposed to be practiced better than Christians do. Nowhere in the Bible does it say I am to embrace and applaud immorality and replace the Lord’s Word with the words of those who promote immorality -in some weird belief it is more pleasing to G*d that I be viewed by the immoral as ‘tolerant’ of sin and its advocates instead of encouraging others to live in accordance with G*d’s immutable law and letting them know His forgiveness is theirs just for the asking.

    • oconnellc

      Didn’t Jesus say something about not judging?

      • Red Fred

        A warning is not a judgement.

        • oconnellc

          It is arrogance of the worst kind to assume that you know that someone needs God forgiveness. Jesus meant for us to live our own lives. Who the hell do you think you are that you are the person who is supposed to be telling the rest of us that we need to be changing our lives? Who do you think you are that you know who needs your warnings? Has God told you what is in my heart? Has he told you what in anyone else’s heart? That is what not judging is. You want to do what God wants? Be a good example. Live a good live. That is hard. It is easy to decide who you think needs your warnings. Save them. If you’re wrong, you set yourself up for a very special place in hell. Live a good live and be an example. Don’t be a judge. God holds that for himself. Unless, of course, you have other news for us…

          • Joe W.

            Everyone needs God’s forgiveness, Needlenose.

          • oconnellc

            Ha. Needlenose. That is funny. You’re a comic. Can I quote you on that? You are gonna be famous. People on reddit will make memes about you. You’ll be on instagram or something. Maybe Jay Leno will quote you when he goes jaywalking or something. That is clever. I laughed. Because it was funny.

          • Joe W.

            You laughed because that is what idiots who watch Jay Leno do, Princess.

          • oconnellc

            No, it is “Printheth”. Get it right. And Jay doesn’t appreciate you talking bad about his audience. He’s going to expect an apology.

          • teamfrazzled

            No honey, Jesus NEVER meant for you to live your life outside of G*d’s love -but to voluntarily come to Him of your own free will. What on earth would make you believe otherwise? No Christian who took his obligations and faith seriously would sit silently by while watching others make and celebrate decisions they know G*d has warned against and so clearly spelled out the permanent consequences for such decisions.

            It is time to ask yourself -is the true measure of love for one’s fellow man to sit back and silently watch others make decisions they know carry fatal consequences (not even saying encouraging and applauding your poor decisions)? Or to urge you to realize your decisions are not only fatal ones, but how to you can SO easily remedy and avoid those consequences entirely? People like you insist the former is the more loving response. In which case you probably shouldn’t have children.

          • oconnellc

            Again, the true measure of a Christian is not that he can stand on television and proclaim that someone else is living in rebellion of God. What arrogance to claim to know such things. You refuse to address that. You ignore any part of the Bible that contradicts your story that you are obligated to publicly draw as much attention to yourself while you make proclamations about the lives of others. So much for having to look in a mans heart to judge him. You can quickly find those parts, if you want to. But you won’t. I’m sure you can quote more of the Bible than I can. But that just gives you ammunition to talk your way around your hypocrisy.

            Sure, go ahead. Make some signs. Go on television. Talk with your friends on internet bulletin boards. Make yourself feel better and think you are doing the right thing.

      • J. Cox

        So you wouldn’t tell your children not to do something if it was bad?Would you tell a friend not to murder someone because its wrong…or is that judging them?It is indeed sad that people who know nothing about the Bible are so quick to pull 1 line out and misrepresent what it actually means.

        • oconnellc

          You know, if you are going to ask a question, you probably have to wait for the answer before you judge the answer… Although, judging people doesn’t appear to be a problem with you. Jesus said you shouldn’t do that, but I guess that was for the other people, right? The sinners, they shouldn’t judge.

          I do agree, though, that pulling out one line and misrepresenting what it means is wrong… I would tell my children to love god and to love their neighbor like they love themselves. I would tell a friend not to murder. I wouldn’t dare have the gall or arrogance to point at someone and call them a sinner or say that they were living in rebellion to God. Who the hell do you or Broussard think you are? You have to look in someone’s heart to see a sin. Can you do that? Is there something else you are planning to tell us? Of all the arrogant miserable things to say and be! How can you call yourself a Christian and look at yourself in the mirror. Hypocrisy is a sin, too. Way to put yourself in judgement of the rest of mankind. How about you put your great knowledge of the bible to the test and see how much of it applies to yourself. That is what Jesus said. Worry about yourself and let God worry about everyone else. You can call a sin a sin. But to judge another man. Wow. You must have a set of stones on you…

          • J. Cox

            Your entire reply is wrong.Mis quoting the Bible and telling me what the word judging is is your attempt to deflect.I have to look inside someone’s heart to see a sin…NOT what Jesus said.
            Let God worry about everyone else?Again..you prefer Christians just shut-up because you hate the truth.The rest of your comment is just sad.

          • oconnellc

            Don’t judge by his appearance or height, for I have rejected him. The
            LORD doesn’t see things the way you see them. People judge by outward
            appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.

            Now when He had spoken, a Pharisee asked Him to have lunch with
            him; and He went in, and reclined at the table. And when the Pharisee saw
            it, he was surprised that He had not first ceremonially washed before the
            meal. But the Lord said to him, “Now you Pharisees clean the outside
            of the cup and of the platter; but inside of you, you are full of robbery
            and wickedness. You foolish ones, did not He who made the outside make the
            inside also? But give that which is within as charity, and then all things
            are clean for you.

            Search me, O God, and know my heart;
            Try me and know my anxious thoughts;
            And see if there be any hurtful way in me,
            And lead me in the everlasting way.

            You’re right. What is in a man’s heart has nothing to do with sin. We should all just ask you what you think, right?

      • teamfrazzled

        That verse was directed at a specific group whose behavior was even worse than those they were condemning. A “clean up your own house first” message, not live-and-let-live. “Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.” (John 7:24) “Yet if you have warned the wicked & he does not turn away from wickedness or from his wicked way; he shall die in his iniquity, but you have delivered yourself.” (Ezekiel 3:18-19) Obligated to call it sin & urge rejection of it.

        • oconnellc

          Odd then, that Matthew 7:1 says that you shouldn’t judge, isn’t it? Weird that parts of the Bible contradict each other. Why would you choose to follow that particular part of Ezekiel and not that particular part of Matthew? Perhaps one of them lets you be a bigot and the other isn’t terribly satisfying?

          • teamfrazzled

            Only when taken out of context entirely in order to serve the agenda of non-Christians is it suddenly “contradictory”. Again -why do you believe the true sign of caring for one’s fellow man is for someone to just STFU when seeing someone make what they know is a fatal decision? Only someone who CARES would urge you to make another decision when they know the one you are making is a harmful and potentially lethal one! If Christians were “haters” as the left so often screeches, do you really think Christians are so stupid they haven’t figured out how to avoid controversy, being attacked, lied about and called every imaginable filthy name under the sun if they just sat by silently? But what is Christian about that? How is such an evil act consistent with my Christian faith? It isn’t.

            Who do you reserve your real contempt for? The fact it is those urging others to reject sin and immorality for their OWN welfare-not that of the Christian – who are always attacked and condemned speaks volumes. It speaks volumes about who YOU reserve your own measure of scorn for here. If your scorn isn’t for those urging, applauding and encouraging you to wallow in and celebrate just about every conceivable immorality, then you are ill. You just don’t appreciate how seriously ill you are -or how much those urging you to reconsider really do care about YOUR welfare. If it was just about MY welfare, then why would I possibly care what the heck you do with your own life? But if I was anything but someone who TRULY cared about my fellow man -why would I NOT try to persuade you to make another choice?

          • oconnellc

            One, you ask a bunch of rhetorical questions that you know the answer to. History is full of meddling bastards who interfere in the lives of others for no good reason. The people who wanted it illegal for inter-racial marriages weren’t doing it out of caring. They were miserable, evil bastards.

            And how have I said that you need to sit by and do nothing? Do you honestly believe that the only options open to a Christian are to do nothing or to go on television and make the arrogant assumption that someone is living in rebellion to god? Why do none of the statements of the Bible about having to judge someone by what is in their heart make no impact on you? How can you be so arrogant as to briefly see something on television and know, TO KNOW! what God thinks about their life. Arrogance. Complete abrogation of something that is so far above us. Yet in your simple analysis, some cherry picked lines from the Bible make it OK. And you ignore all the other parts of the Bible that state how Jesus love has replaced the rule of the OT. Why? Why don’t those parts impact you the same way.

            Your Christianity doesn’t give you the right or the obligation to publicly proclaim that someone else is a sinner. Your arrogance and bigotry do.

          • teamfrazzled

            Only when taken out of context entirely in order to serve the agenda of non-Christians is it suddenly “contradictory”. Again -why do you believe the true sign of caring for one’s fellow man is for someone to just STFU when seeing someone make what they know is a fatal decision? Only someone who CARES would urge you to make another decision when they know the one you are making is a harmful and potentially lethal one! If Christians were “haters” as the left so often screeches, do you really think Christians are so stupid they haven’t figured out how to avoid controversy, being attacked, lied about and called every imaginable filthy name under the sun if they just sat by silently? But what is Christian about that? How is such an evil act consistent with my Christian faith? It isn’t.

            Who do you reserve your real contempt for? The fact it is those urging others to reject sin and immorality for their OWN welfare-not that of the Christian – who are always attacked and condemned speaks volumes. It speaks volumes about who YOU reserve your own measure of scorn for here. If your scorn isn’t for those urging, applauding and encouraging you to wallow in and celebrate just about every conceivable immorality, then you are ill. You just don’t appreciate how seriously ill you are -or how much those urging you to reconsider really do care about YOUR welfare. If it was just about MY welfare, then why would I possibly care what the heck you do with your own life? But if I was anything but someone who TRULY cared about my fellow man -why would I NOT try to persuade you to make another choice?

  • CrossHugger

    Someone also should tell begala to quit using Scripture to twist into something it is not. We can be watchman on the walls begala. If we do not warn a brother or sister of impending sin, their blood is on our hands. Wake up lefty and quit twisting GODS Word….

  • CrossHugger

    Someone also should tell begala to quit using Scripture to twist into something it is not. We can be watchman on the walls begala. If we do not warn a brother or sister of impending sin, their blood is on our hands. Wake up lefty and quit twisting GODS Word….

  • J.N. Ashby

    Well those first two tweets up there were reasonable.

  • J.N. Ashby

    Well those first two tweets up there were reasonable.

  • digitalPimple

    I think what people fail to realize is that this guy is not being judgmental. God himself made the judgement he just “Got Gods back”.

  • digitalPimple

    I think what people fail to realize is that this guy is not being judgmental. God himself made the judgement he just “Got Gods back”.

  • froggy19510

    Why us it that the left wants me to celebrate their deversity but they don’t want to celebrate mine?

  • Bill Board

    If God wanted homo’s, he would have made Adam and Steve.

  • Rick

    Do only as I do, if not you will be labeled. Liberals only know their way, everyone else is wrong.

  • oconnellc

    I think that people who explicitly quote the Bible as the source for their beliefs would find much more acceptance from those who don’t believe the Bible should be taken literally, if those quoting the Bible would at least be consistent in how much of the Bible should be taken literally. That is, either all of it, or none of it.

    Not calling names here, but I’d really like to get an open conversation from someone who can help me understand why they fully follow every last bit of Leviticus and not just the parts that talk about gay people.

    • J. Cox

      Learn what Grace means,learn what the three types of laws were,why they were implemented,and why you must read the Bible in its entirety and in context,then you can have a conversation.Just a FYI…the old testament isn’t the only place where homosexuality was listed as a sin.Also,you might want to learn what the word repentance actually means,and what being a Christian is.It’s not us being perfect,nor is it about us not failing.Start there.

      • oconnellc

        So do you believe that someone can quote lines from Leviticus and feel that they literally apply to people now? Do all lines apply? Do you really have a good reason for thinking that gay people who are in monogamous committed relationships are committing any sin? If you really think that Grace plays a part of it, then you also must believe that motivation plays a big part of sin. Which means that before you can call someone a sinner, you must understand why they do what they do. Do you claim to be able to understand the thoughts and motivations of gay people? I wonder if there was a reason why Jesus said that there he came to replace the old laws with the new laws and that there were two of them: love God and love your neighbor. And for good measure he threw in that little bit about not judging (perhaps because of that whole ‘Grace’ bit and understanding the motivation for a persons actions). Are you saying that even though Jesus said you shouldn’t judge, you feel qualified to stand up and point at someone and call them a sinner? I didn’t say that you couldn’t theoretically discuss an action and think about if it is a sin. I’m saying that you think that you can stand up and point at someone and call them a sinner?

      • oconnellc

        Sounds like it is about publicly calling out who is living in rebellion to God. That is what Grace is, right? Who has the high ground to stand up and point at other people say who is not following God? Right? Certainly isn’t about self-reflection and trying to live your own best life and not pretending that you can see another persons motives. Who can stand up the tallest and point at the other sinners…

        • J. Cox

          That’s a pretty weak argument,and expected.I guess you prefer that Christians just shut-up and go to the back room and remain hidden.You want no one to call out right and wrong,because when they do….you believe it has to do with nothing more than a man’s petty attempt at holding the moral high ground.Ever think maybe we love our brothers so much we DO NOT want to see them perish?FYI…calling out a persons motives is what you just did.Irony is another word to look up.

          • oconnellc

            I’m not the Christian, right? You are. If you want to call yourself one, you should at least pretend to act like one. When people try to make your Church marry people you don’t want married, then complain. But stop with the sanctimonious crap. You are in no position to publicly judge anyone’s actions and if you really were a Christian, you would know that. The true Christians used to walk into the lions den. Your conscience will keep you up at night. Mine lets me sleep just fine.

  • Gary Rudick

    If you read Matthew 7:1 why did you skip Matthew 5:11 & 12?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Marcy-Cook/1001619613 Marcy Cook

    I can’t wait until the Islamists take over…these lefty idiots are in for a big surprise. Gay? Have and abortion? You’re out of luck.

  • Steve_J

    Nowadays tolerance only goes one way.

    • oconnellc

      Right. Pointing out someone is living in rebellion to God is probably the perfect example of tolerance.

      • ajdecarlo

        If you bothered to actually look into what the man said, you would realize that he was exactly describing real tolerance. I heard him when he said it. Did you? Have you read the full context of his statement?

        He quite clearly stated his -personal- opinion on the matter while in a conversation with a gay commentator who agreed with him – tolerance is being able to politely and respectfully speak, work and interact with people you strongly disagree with. He stated his personal opinion based on his faith, and then tied that opinion into how he actually works well with people who disagree with his opinion.

        But hey, keep the hate of Christians going. It has always worked before.

        • oconnellc

          I don’t hate Christians. Just the hypocrites. Even the opinion that someone is living in “open rebellion to god” is sickening. What an opinion of yourself you must have to be able to come to that conclusion. As though God needs your help. You better stand up and make sure everyone sees when you point your fingers at the sinners. There is no way a real Christian would do anything like say “I believe that God loves all people, even if he doesn’t love everything they do”? Right? I mean all that crap about humble Christians is just that, crap. Christians never used to do things like walk into lions dens. Now they have to make sure that the two guys living next door couldn’t possibly get the same government protection that they get. And, they have to make sure that they tell the world who is sinning and who isn’t. I don’t hate Christians. The guy who said that someone else is living in “open rebellion to god” isn’t a Christian.

          • ajdecarlo

            He stated his belief that the practice is a sin, identified in the Bible. It is in the Bible as a sin, just FYI. So is fornication and adultery. So, what he said was, “I believe it is a sin because the Bible said so, I think these people are jeopardizing their eternal souls, but I can still be polite, considerate, and professional with them without approving of their behavior”.

            Obviously a bigot.

          • oconnellc

            No. He said that they were walking in “open rebellion to God and Jesus Christ”. What he said, and what you claim he said are different. If he was a Christian, he would have said what I said he should have said. A Christian wouldn’t claim to judge someone else like that. A Christian wouldn’t claim to know what is in someone’s heart like that. The simple explanation is that despite claiming to be a Christian, he isn’t one.

  • Legal Immigrant in TX

    I sent Mr Broussard and email through ESPN thanking him for his conviction. He needs our support at this time.

  • JoeMyGodNYC

    It figures that douchebag Roland Martin would back Broussard. After all his wife makes her living running a crackpot “ex-gay therapy” practice.

  • nc

    Incredible that almost no one on the Left seems to see the irony in this part of the story.

  • bossmanham

    Tolerance, like all other words the left uses, has been bastardized.

  • Tim Brooks

    never ever been a fan of his chris until today. good job chris for not being a homo suck up like everyone else seems to be. good job and keep it up.

  • BenY

    Typical reaction from the low life trash crowd known as liberals.

  • thehappyhedgehog

    Evidently bigotry is fine when it’s endorsed by the Bible (but not the Koran: that’s bad bigotry). Got it!

  • v1cious

    You guys are always saying the media should keep their politics to themselves, yet you have no problem supporting them when it fits your agenda.

  • Ed Adams

    broussard is further proof that christianity is a disease of the mind. many christians can be good people despite their religion, but most, like broussard, can’t.

    • D Fernandez

      Your comment is proof that you are an idiot. What words of wisdom do you have for us regarding Islam?

      • oconnellc

        That your only response? Not to see if there is anything to his comment. Or to refute his comment. Just to make a meaningless, pointless reference to Islam? What would his words of wisdom about Islam have to do with his words of wisdom about Christianity?

      • Ed Adams

        lol. islam is also a disease. and you need to go and pray away your anti-gay bigotry.

    • D Fernandez

      Your comment is proof that you are an idiot. What words of wisdom do you have for us regarding Islam?

  • JoeMyGodNYC
  • Raye09

    He was not cruel or nasty with his comments, he simply stated what he believes. He also said he feels “all sex outside of marriage between a man and a woman is a sin”, bits and pieces were chosen to make an argument, not the full statement . I don’t agree with him but he has a right to his opinions, as do the millions of other Americans that share his views. He shouldn’t be fired over that. All NOH8 does is stir up drama.

  • Raye09

    He was not cruel or nasty with his comments, he simply stated what he believes. He also said he feels “all sex outside of marriage between a man and a woman is a sin”, bits and pieces were chosen to make an argument, not the full statement . I don’t agree with him but he has a right to his opinions, as do the millions of other Americans that share his views. He shouldn’t be fired over that. All NOH8 does is stir up drama.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1308431511 Joshua Alvarez

    I disagree with Broussard, but he should definitely not be fired. Jason Collins wanted “to start the conversation.” Firing Broussard would effectively stamp it out. http://incontrarian.com/blog/2013/5/1/in-defense-of-chris-broussard

  • QAX3kFmH

    only the intolerant demands tolerance. I’m looking at you liberals