Joe Biden’s been pretty cagey when it comes to his thoughts on court packing (among other things).

But in a recent interview with CBS News’ Norah O’Donnell, he offered up a little more insight as to what he’s planning:

Yes, listen to it:

Uhhhh …

It should drive a lot of convo today. Because it’s kind of a big f*cking deal.

Guess so.

They don’t get much swampier than that.

Just add this one to the rapidly growing list of reasons not to vote for Joe Biden.