We do this every time there’s a mass shooting (forget the routine double-digit weekend homicides in Baltimore), and we still don’t understand the point. Pro-gun control politicians keep saying they’re only coming for “military-style assault weapons” like the very popular and widely owned AR-15, claiming that they kill more people faster because they have an incredible rate of fire. Plus, the bullets go slightly faster, so there’s even less chance of ducking out of the way.
Igor Volsky, who’s now with some organization called Guns Down America, informed us Saturday after the El Paso shooting that you can empty a 30-round magazine in about five seconds.
Assault weapons are particularly dangerous because they can fire 300-500 rounds per minute (the rate of fire is almost the same as an M-16).
You can empty a 30 round magazine in about 5 seconds. https://t.co/4qh9M2Ozu6
— igorvolsky (@igorvolsky) August 3, 2019
500 rounds a minute? Has Volsky ever fired 500 rounds in one minute? While reloading? Which melted first, his trigger finger or the barrel? He must be some sort of superhuman.
Thankfully for us, the BBC still cares enough about our gun problem that BBC News put together a handy chart showing just how quickly different guns can be fired:
An actual graphic from @BBCNews https://t.co/LJFJpvuxLC pic.twitter.com/IDyFVDHsMm
— Rob (@rob99711) August 6, 2019
Whoa, hold up. They’ve modded an AR-15 to fire 1,200 rounds a minute? What’d they add, the chainsaw bayonet?
How is this real? Everything about this graphic is complete nonsense. All semi-automatic firearms have effectively the same rate of fire: one round per every trigger pull. The same is true of revolvers as well. https://t.co/jUevAZ0Ywd
— Stephen Gutowski (@StephenGutowski) August 6, 2019
It appears the BBC has removed this graphic from their story without a correction or any sort of note. It was there last night but it's gone this morning.
— Stephen Gutowski (@StephenGutowski) August 6, 2019
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Yeah, it’s gone.
This is propaganda to be spoon fed to morons.
— Brian Cates (@drawandstrike) August 6, 2019
how is an automatic rifle firing less than an AR-15?! That's just embarrassingly wrong especially for a news agency to post!
— Luke van Loenen (@luke_sw2) August 6, 2019
Ridiculous. Since this weekends shootings, I've seen the media reporting all sorts of FALSE claims. They are despicable.
— Chinaboy* (@rwingjr) August 6, 2019
It is not all nonsense. Some actions fire faster than others. The AK47 on full auto is 600 rounds per minute though. The one per trigger pull is semi automatic. I'd like to see what modifications they did to a semi automatic AR that made it dire faster than a full auto…
— jeff schumacher (@JeffSgtschu) August 6, 2019
They just changed the numbers on the graphic. It's intended to have a political effect on the reader, not to inform. And that AK on fully automatic will overheat in seconds. Sustained fire would be a tiny fraction.
— Boris_Badenoff (@Boris_Badenoff) August 6, 2019
Claiming an AR15 fires MORE rounds per minute than a full auto M16. Wow. Thought I'd seen it all. AR15 obviously falls into the semiautomatic category.
— Paladin ?? (@EftyZ) August 6, 2019
The style of gun makes your finger go faster pic.twitter.com/2TliUrLqZy
— Sid Lozo (@muricanMAN86) August 6, 2019
Probably based on the weapon's mechanical ability to fire at that rate without jamming. Real world would require a fully automatic, a cooling mechanism and a method to feed the ammunition. In reality 30 to 60 rounds per minute considering semiautomatic fire.
— MTB (@nsewanswers) August 6, 2019
It's not based on anything. These numbers aren't accurate no matter how you slice it.
— Stephen Gutowski (@StephenGutowski) August 6, 2019
I agree. I don't think any of these attacks have been done with a silly automatic weapon. There was one with a bumper stock. The whole infographic is unrealistic or accurate.
— MTB (@nsewanswers) August 6, 2019
The semiauto AR15 having a faster rate of fire than a select fire M16A2 has me in stitches ?
— Yosaf, 2A Advocate ?? ?? (@a_wandering_jew) August 6, 2019
40 mag swaps in one minute doesn’t leave much time to pull the trigger.
— Steve Gill (@Steve_Gill75) August 6, 2019
Even with 100 round drum mags this is ridiculous. Not to mention the melting down of the gun
— BWilly02 (@bwilly02) August 6, 2019
Yeah, but a revolver can only do handle 6 rounds before you need to reload. Apparently AR-15s have 1200 capacity magazines.
— Blank (@NPCOffender) August 6, 2019
Wait even the super duper Big Bang double assault super stellar fast whiz bang glock AR15 bushmaster magazine clip drums!?
— Just My Thoughts (@JustMyOpinions4) August 6, 2019
I don’t know Stephen, what if someone mounts a chainsaw bayonet to one of those things.
— Open Source Defense (@opensrcdefense) August 6, 2019
This guy needs a bigger mag, in that case. pic.twitter.com/9YIOSWMyoB
— Wood Borer (@galooticus) August 6, 2019
These numbers were calculated using common core math and no common sense.
They also have no correlation to actual firearms.— Phil in NH (@PhilDudeNH) August 6, 2019
This graphic is complete BS. It’s says a modified semi-automatic AR-15. That’s one hell of a modification if it shoots more rounds per minute that a full auto M-16. Whoever modified that semi auto needs a job at a military armory
— Clint Bryant (@Punk2617) August 6, 2019
Does modified mean a bump stock?
— Klastastic (@klastastic) August 6, 2019
I have no idea. The graphic they used doesn't show a bump stock. A bump stock's rate of fire is not faster than an actual full-auto either.
— Stephen Gutowski (@StephenGutowski) August 6, 2019
One side of the debate LITERALLY doesn't know what it's talking about…
And they don't care enough to educate themselves.
— OmniscientJuggernaut (@OmniJuggernaut) August 6, 2019
Jesus. Shit like this is why so many can’t even begin to have a sensible conversation.
— Tweet Dad (@sleeperSS) August 6, 2019
Source: BBC Research
— Libertarian Populism (@SemperArgentum) August 6, 2019
But what if they have the shoulder thing that goes up?
— ROCK THUNDERPUNCH (@RokThunderpunch) August 6, 2019
So based on the increasing tactical nature of the gun, your finger has enhanced performance capabilities.
Is that like racing stripes adding horsepower to muscle cars? Lolz.
— Jeana (@jeanarae1983) August 6, 2019
What would make this more informative is if the last item were how many rounds per minute for the Flash throwing bullets. https://t.co/FHhAVEGyBR
— Frank J. Fleming (@IMAO_) August 6, 2019
This is why we have the words “fake news”.
— Danny Zumwalt (@dannyzumwalt) August 6, 2019
Did they do a graphic on forks? I’ve heard they’re confiscating forks in the U.K.
— Big B (@blaubaugh) August 6, 2019
The cops did raid a thrift shop and walk away with a rusty spoon that could have hurt someone.
Related:
Guns Down America’s Igor Volsky apparently has the world’s fastest trigger finger or his facts are wrong https://t.co/9N4sznAauB
— Twitchy Team (@TwitchyTeam) August 4, 2019
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