Nate Silver, editor-in-chief of FiveThirtyEight, minced no words this afternoon when he suggested that chart-heavy Vox.com “stop stealing people’s charts,” including his. That’s quite an allegation.
Yo, @voxdotcom: Y'all should probably stop stealing people's charts without proper attribution. You do this all the time, to 538 & others.
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) April 13, 2015
538's Nate Silver to @Voxdotcom: Quit jacking our charts http://t.co/8UX9ph3f5U First @Slate, now Nate! I sense a pattern
— Mickey Kaus (@kausmickey) April 13, 2015
@kausmickey @voxdotcom You say @Slate first? Was that before or after @FDRLST? @seanmdav
— Gerry Daly (@GerryDales) April 13, 2015
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/587702851243216896
@seanmdav @GerryDales @kausmickey @voxdotcom @Slate @FDRLST that ain't right.
— Dbright21 (@Dbright21) April 13, 2015
@NateSilver538 RT @voxdotcom: An explainer on how those charts ended up on our website: it saves money.
— Adam Steinbaugh (@adamsteinbaugh) April 13, 2015
Silver also had something to say about the offerings of the @VoxMaps Twitter account.
Only about 20% of the maps @VoxMaps tweets were actually made by Vox. Always a link to a Vox story, rarely to original source.
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) April 13, 2015
@NateSilver538 The only time @voxdotcom posts correct maps or charts is when they steal them.
— Shane Styles (@shaner5000) April 13, 2015
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@NateSilver538 @voxdotcom @derekwillis and they do it as *screenshots*! Fucking over users of screen readers, one article at a time.
— maco (@maco_nix) April 13, 2015
@NateSilver538 @voxdotcom I've asked @Max_Fisher about this about dozen times and he never responds cc @ezraklein
— Anthony DeRosa? (@Anthony) April 13, 2015
Take, for example, that graph Vox published showing that “the entire GOP field is either obscure or unpopular” while the rest of the nation suffers from “Hillary fever.”
@NateSilver538 @voxdotcom Related: http://t.co/eMohBikpYC A link somewhere, anywhere to this: http://t.co/yES4PfKPuK would've helped
— Carl Bialik (@CarlBialik) April 13, 2015
@NateSilver538 @voxdotcom And now it's there
— Carl Bialik (@CarlBialik) April 13, 2015
@CarlBialik that was impressive. Under 10 min
— scott olberding (@isthatsol) April 13, 2015
@CarlBialik @NateSilver538 @voxdotcom besides the link right under the chart?
— coreybowers (@coreybowers) April 13, 2015
@coreybowers @NateSilver538 @voxdotcom It wasn't there when Nate and I tweeted https://t.co/xx7ao2KGMw
— Carl Bialik (@CarlBialik) April 13, 2015
@CarlBialik @NateSilver538 @voxdotcom Am I crazy or does that specifically say "Nate Silver and his team…" plus credit 538 on the grafic?
— Sameer Ohri (@sohri) April 13, 2015
@sohri @CarlBialik @NateSilver538 @voxdotcom you're not crazy. pic.twitter.com/Ie8FLQfkt8
— And still undefeated… (@BLSMaS_NFL) April 13, 2015
@samslusher @sohri @NateSilver538 @voxdotcom Yes. Those links were added after our tweets.
— Carl Bialik (@CarlBialik) April 13, 2015
@CarlBialik @sohri @NateSilver538 @voxdotcom AH. Well credit to Vox for being quick?
— And still undefeated… (@BLSMaS_NFL) April 13, 2015
@samslusher @sohri @NateSilver538 @voxdotcom If T= (time Vox adds link) – (time Vox article pubbed), then I define "quick" as T<0
— Carl Bialik (@CarlBialik) April 13, 2015
Vox senior correspondent Timothy B. Lee will be on the lookout.
@AntDeRosa I can't speak for Max here but feel free to email me if you spot problems in the future. [email protected]
— Timothy B. Lee (@binarybits) April 13, 2015
@binarybits thanks!
— Anthony DeRosa? (@Anthony) April 13, 2015
@binarybits @AntDeRosa no sourcing for this either, posted a few mins ago http://t.co/TzKHX9BoAv
— Tyler Sinclair (@sinclatg) April 13, 2015
@sinclatg @AntDeRosa Good catch, I'll add a link.
— Timothy B. Lee (@binarybits) April 13, 2015
@sinclatg @AntDeRosa Note that we did attribute the source here, we just forgot to include a link.
— Timothy B. Lee (@binarybits) April 13, 2015
@NateSilver538 @VoxMaps make a chart
— 'Weird Alex' Pareene (@pareene) April 13, 2015
https://twitter.com/Seanismoney/status/587653700220547073
@NateSilver538 @voxdotcom If you're interested, @derekwillis has been constructively documenting this issue for months.
— Alex Howard (@digiphile) April 13, 2015
@NateSilver538 @voxdotcom this is the nerd version of the Hamilton- Burr duel.
— crazybaldhead (@alexbaldman) April 13, 2015
Is this the end of the kerfuffle for now? Vox has already put together an explainer for how the site aggregates content.
After @NateSilver538’s criticism about lack of attribution, @voxdotcom says it was "carelessness, not malice.” http://t.co/NdAYV12MAd
— Jim Roberts (@nycjim) April 13, 2015