Elizabeth Spiers says in her Twitter bio that she does digital/polling for Democrats and is a contributing writer to the New York Times’ opinion page and Slate. She’s also an NYU journalism school professor, which is how she managed to school Townhall’s Kurt Schlichter on proper pronoun usage. Let’s see how she did it. (Note: This exchange actually went on forever; this is just a sample.)
White male conservatives care more about pronouns than any leftist or trans person I know. It’s truly unhinged.
— Elizabeth Spiers (@espiers) July 15, 2022
And the number of people who fit this description proving my point by responding “pronouns in bio” is just Lolol
— Elizabeth Spiers (@espiers) July 15, 2022
Spiers’ pronouns are “she” and “her.”
I mean, deadnaming gets you banned from Twitter. Sounds like someone on the left cares. 🤷♂️
— Noam Blum (@neontaster) July 15, 2022
I don’t care about pronouns. I care about people trying to force me to care about pronouns and threatening to fire people if they don’t get these obscure pronouns correct
— (((Aaron Walker))) (@AaronWorthing) July 15, 2022
I'll make it simple for you.
Pronouns in the bio is a red flag. It indicates that the person is going to be predisposed to having an insane take on any topic of conversation.
It's hilarious at how accurate it is.
— Chris (@YourBestChris) July 16, 2022
Truth.
Your pronouns are he or she. https://t.co/ZZ4BrBa9ZR
— Kurt Schlichter (@KurtSchlichter) July 16, 2022
Oh, you decide what my pronouns are? Well, if so, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, so yours are “execrable novelist”/“💩”. https://t.co/zpukcXs50w
— Elizabeth Spiers (@espiers) July 16, 2022
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Yes. I decide. You were proving yourself unable to perform that task adequately.
And thanks for the book reminder!
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— Kurt Schlichter (@KurtSchlichter) July 16, 2022
Oh wow. Now you get it! Everyone gets to decide *their own* pronouns. I’m happy this was a teachable moment for you!
— Elizabeth Spiers (@espiers) July 16, 2022
When debating the issue of "who cares more about pronouns?" I think the point isn't whether you decide your own pronouns, but how bad you think it is if someone chooses to not use them.
— Noam Blum (@neontaster) July 16, 2022
The general consensus in my neck of the woods is that failing to use them is only bad if it’s done maliciously and for the express purpose of misgendering someone.
— Elizabeth Spiers (@espiers) July 16, 2022
So that’s the general consensus in her neck of the woods, huh?
I my neck of the woods, you no more choose your own pronouns than you do your own adjectives. You especially have no say-so over which the general population must use when speaking about you.
— The Middle Aged Baby (@MiddleAgedBaby7) July 16, 2022
See? Here’s another dumb thing you guys do to make your argument: there is no “must”. If you choose not to *in order to harass someone* there may be consequences because as a society we generally agree harassment is bad. But no one will be angry if you just don’t know.
— Elizabeth Spiers (@espiers) July 16, 2022
Um, yeah they will.
And in any case, no one is holding a gun to your head. It’s a matter of just being polite and not behaving like a dick. It’s not illegal to behave like a dick, but you probably shouldn’t knowingly be horrible to other people. WWjD
— Elizabeth Spiers (@espiers) July 16, 2022
That’s an interesting tactic. You demand obedience, backed up by sanctions, then when confronted with what you want to do, you we retreat and pretend that we’re upset for nothing because you really didn’t mean it, though you do mean it. #MotteBailey https://t.co/IQirhLtQse
— Kurt Schlichter (@KurtSchlichter) July 16, 2022
I was required to use female pronouns and the word 'mother' to describe a man who socially transitioned in jail after being sentenced for brutally raping his young daughter because the publication appeared in Canada.
Stop with this 'it's just about being nice' bullshit. https://t.co/yTTPoLO9dq
— Chad Felix Greene (@chadfelixg) July 16, 2022
Unwillingly taking part in somebody's ridiculous gender cosplay is "just being polite"?
— Jim Thomas (@haggler20873301) July 16, 2022
Wrong. It’s about breaking social conventional norms down in order to affect a collectivist political overhaul. Pronoun people are pawns in that strategy and the truth is being mean to them was never a thing to the point that needed linguistic correcting. 🤷🏻♂️
— Juan~Solo 🎸🥃🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 (@juan_lauder_69) July 16, 2022
It's not "polite" to be an enabler of someone's disconnection from reality.
Neither one's feelings nor one's experiences are knowledge. Knowledge comes only from rational analysis of the causes of those feelings and experiences.
— Hypatia (@AlexandriaLibri) July 16, 2022
Hi Elizabeth! And for those of us that do not adhere to your religion? (The Jesus one or the gender one) Are we dicks for simply having our own set of beliefs? Or are you attempting to compel our beliefs in addition to our language? https://t.co/Ws4lYRX2Ty
— Danni (@DanniBrener) July 16, 2022
They use this deflection except we can all see Biden’s new Title IX regs which punish “misgendering”, pronouns, etc. Middle schoolers will get reported for using the wrong pronouns in her brave new world where supposedly there’s no one “holding a gun to your head”. https://t.co/5MrBuaxa9C
— Doctor Fate (@georg3) July 16, 2022
It is not being “a dick” to point out that only men have one. https://t.co/QFkET1qEp5
— Kurt Schlichter (@KurtSchlichter) July 16, 2022
You got a live one there. Keep at it.
— Michael Morrison (@Michael87447904) July 16, 2022
If you recognize her name, it's because Liz was the founding editor at Gawker. You know, the "blog" site that got sued into oblivion?
I'd probably dismiss her outright as a source for any moral direction or advice
— Ultra Babushka (@schwinn_charles) July 16, 2022
We’ve been assured by people in her neck of the woods that not putting your pronouns in your Twitter bio is transphobia.
Related:
Report: UK headed toward ‘misgendering crisis’ as 61 percent of Brits don’t ask about pronouns https://t.co/cyj3ZoXShs
— Twitchy Team (@TwitchyTeam) June 27, 2021
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