Just how many shotguns has Vice President Joe Biden sold since being named to lead the White House’s task force on gun violence? During a Google+ “fireside chat” in January, Biden advised a questioner to buy a shotgun and some shells to keep people away following a natural disaster like an earthquake, where shifting tectonic plates would make an AR-15 too difficult to aim.

As if to prove he wasn’t just drunk, Biden repeated the advice during a Facebook chat, telling a woman a shotgun would be easier to aim, but never mind aiming: two blasts into the air would deter any intruder. Still not convinced you need a shotgun? Biden sat down with Field and Stream’s Anthony Licata to talk firearms and repeated his claim from the Google+ chat. “Well, you know, my shotgun will do better for you than your AR-15, because you want to keep someone away from your house, just fire the shotgun through the door,” Biden recounted.

Good advice, right?

https://twitter.com/CalGunStuff/status/306899738479976448

The full interview is well worth reading, but it still leaves some important questions unanswered.

  • http://twitter.com/jimni27 Jimni27

    It worked so well for Oscar Pistorius

  • http://apostrophejones.com/ Gloves Donahue, Jr.

    Someone needs to warn the UPS driver who delivers packages to the Bidens.

    • http://twitter.com/jimni27 Jimni27

      and trick or treaters

      • journogal

        and Girl Scouts selling cookies

        • SpinMeNot

          Well, given that Girl Scouts have to include Crack Cocaine in those cookies… nothing can be that addictive without crack cocaine …

        • http://twitter.com/jimni27 Jimni27

          No one better mess with my Thin Mints. There will be war. Oh yes, there will be war…..

  • https://twitter.com/tweetyuo Tangchung

    Biden with a shotgun makes me think of
    Elmer Fudd.

    • SpinMeNot

      Be vawy vawy quiet … we’re hunting Unicorns ..

    • http://www.facebook.com/corey.dennison Corey Dennison

      Well, he’s like Elmer Fudd, if you take away Elmer’s cold steel nerves and ultra competence.

      • arttie

        And add a pinch of Barney Fife

      • SpinMeNot

        Again, I am thankful that my tablet does not have a keyboard. I’d have just ruined by laptop.

    • Michael Rice

      Don’t insult a great cartoon like that.

    • TocksNedlog

      “Be vewy vewy qwiet — I’m hunting hair pwugs.
      Hahahahaha.”

    • Jonny Red

      Biden has never been “Vewy quiet” ever ever ever.

  • http://www.facebook.com/corey.dennison Corey Dennison

    ‘Just fire the shotgun through the door’

    Also known as the ‘Pistorius Gambit.’

    #You’re GoingToJailDumbass

    • Peyton

      Haha

    • SpinMeNot

      Oh great, now we are going to get some liberal starting a racism subthread … Corey is using code words … Jail, dumbasss … wait, those aren’t code words.

      nvm ..

      • Rabid

        Not yet..give them a couple of days…

    • kate_middleton

      I immediately thought of this too! Always great advice to shoot through the door without knowing who you’re shooting at. It worked out so well for Oscar Pistorius.

      • Maxx

        Cue it Jimi…

        “Hey Joe…where you goin’ with that Mossberg 500 in your hand?”

      • Maxx

        Cue it Jimi…

        “Hey Joe…where you goin’ with that Mossberg 500 in your hand?”

    • $23629333

      I cannot read or listen to anything the Joey the VP says without imagining Woody Woodpecker laughing in the background.

    • Cold War Grunt
  • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

    Just remember after you shoot the shotgun through the door for defense bring the body inside your house for a more plausible story.

    • SpinMeNot

      How fast can replace the door. Police are going to notice the hole from the .00 buck. They are good at that sort of thing.

      • journogal

        That might be a little hard to do at 3 a.m., but just stick a rag in it or stand in front of it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

        I was presuming he meant open the door and then shoot. Boy do I feel like a liberal now.

        • SpinMeNot

          We love you .. its understandable. We use logic, they don’t, liberalism can be contagious. I suggest reading a selection of the federalist papers and watching a few episodes of Band Of Brothers,

          EDIT: oops, my attention wandered … hungry,

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            Oh! I opt for the few episodes of Band of Brothers, although I’m terribly disappointed that Maj. Winters is now Nicholas Brody.

          • RightThinking1

            “We’re paratroopers sir, we’re supposed to be surrounded..”

          • SpinMeNot

            “I am not a Quaker”

            *hat-tip*

          • E Quilibrate

            ’tis o.k. I’ve been vaccinated

    • Canadian in USA

      I thought they didn’t want us to…you know…*shoot* anybody. (/sarc)

      • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

        I’m sorry @canadianinusa:disqus, my Daddy always taught/told me that if I ever aim my gun I better be prepared to shoot. And, being the good girl I am, always follow my Daddy’s advice (may he rest in peace).

        • Matthew Morris

          Worked with a girl who carried mace once. I asked her if she would be willing to use it. She told me she wasn’t sure. I told her if you carry a weapon, you have to be ready to use it, because if you’re not, your attacker will use it, on you. Your Daddy’s a wise man.

        • Jonny Red

          Oh crap! Did you shoot your dad? Sorry, couldn’t resist.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            LoL! Dad would have appreciated that one. Nope, his life was taken by a dumb ass 16 year old who thought he could pull his car out in front of my Dad while Dad was riding his Harley. My Dad always said “I survived 2 tours in Vietnam, 20 years in the Army and 3 girls with red hair, I at least want to go out doing something I love”. Riding his Harley was something he loved so he got his wish.

          • Jonny Red

            Your dad sounds like a hero. America doesn’t manufacture too many MEN anymore. Count yourself lucky. The upcoming generation is going to end up a bunch of square glasses, scarves and skinny jean wearing poets with a penchant for flavored coffee and butt sex.

  • Craig Jacobs

    Joe should get the surgery to remove that foot from his mouth.

    • SpinMeNot

      What I don’t understand is how he manages to get his foot in his mouth, given his head is up his ass.

      Just sayin …

      • Craig Jacobs

        he’s an anatomical miracle, that’s for sure…

  • Greg Lesher

    Biden, never point your gun at anything you don’t want to destroy. This was the first thing I was taught about guns. Do you know what is behind the door, or across the street? You people seem to be pointing your political guns at this nation, because you are all destroying it at lightning speed…

    • SpinMeNot

      And the second thing is never fire a weapon unless you know what it is going to hit. Firing through a door wall, may look like a good idea in the movies, but there is a reason why soldiers/marines/SEALs spend a lot of time training on the correct method to clear and secure a room.

      (I acknowledge you mentioned it, but I felt it deserved some elaboration)

    • http://twitter.com/Gator_Country Stephen K

      At this point I’m starting to wonder if Biden’s not trying to land gun owners in jail with felony charges. It disarms people, plus it helps him and Obama to continue the narrative that all gun owners are paranoid loons who can’t be trusted with firearms.

      • aPLWBinAK

        I believe you’re on target there. He is trying to lull his low information constitutents into taking his ‘advice’, and doing something as stupid as shooting through a door and killing some innocent person…like a Girl Scout selling cookies for example. Think of the headlines. Then they have another excuse that tugs at the heart strings, for why the average home owner should not be allowed to possess firearms……..”if it saves just one child”….

      • kate_middleton

        But are any gun owners stupid enough to take his lame advice?

        • SpinMeNot

          Given the number of lefties that believe BHO, JB and crew that the AR-15 is a military style assault weapon, its pretty likely that they think JB’s recommendation to fire your shotgun into the air to scare off an intruder, or shoot them through a door is sage advice from a gun expert.

        • E Quilibrate

          Well he was part of the package & still is, so I guess
          it’s more than likely.

    • Canadian in USA

      Not being a gun owner…if you shoot through the door, especially an exterior door, isn’t there a possibility of something flying back at you?

      • aPLWBinAK

        Yes….jail time and lawsuits

      • Rob

        Police bullets

      • SpinMeNot

        Carom theory governs the path of the pellets once they leave the barrel of the gun (carom theory governs ricochet behaviors). Its unlikely anything would come back at you that would be large enough to hurt you, unless something gets in your eyes.

        • RightThinking1

          Well…, there was that time I fired a .32 Auto from a 2″ barrel at an oak board. The slug rebounded and hit me in the chest. No damage. Pretty nice dent in the board…, but that was it. Not a lot of energy in that round.

          • SpinMeNot

            I would not attempt to shoot through any material similar to a quality exterior door with anything less than a 12ga, a .308, or a .45. And I probably wouldn’t try it with a shot size smaller than a 3 or so. Definitely not a target load.

            And your experience with the .32 Auto is exactly why. The .308 does a good job of blowing through cinder block walls; the Navy carried M14s on many of the ships up to the 2005 time frame for that very reason

          • SpinMeNot

            I would not attempt to shoot through any material similar to a quality exterior door with anything less than a 12ga, a .308, or a .45. And I probably wouldn’t try it with a shot size smaller than a 3 or so. Definitely not a target load.

            And your experience with the .32 Auto is exactly why. The .308 does a good job of blowing through cinder block walls; the Navy carried M14s on many of the ships up to the 2005 time frame for that very reason

      • E Quilibrate

        Only remotely likely, as splinters are mostly outward bound,
        resilient splinter may snap back.

  • http://www.facebook.com/corey.dennison Corey Dennison

    my shotgun will do better for you than your AR-15, because you want to keep someone away from your house, just fire the shotgun through the door,

    Not that it isn’t already moronic advice, but I’d bet that even the smallest round available from an AR-15 (.223) can penetrate most household doors. Most interior ones anyway. Basically, Vice President Walter is wrong on about every angle of this scenario.

  • Maxx

    I swear to God, this Vice President couldn’t pour bourbon out of a boot with the directions written on the heel.

    “Just fire through the door?”

    http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsi7nxJvHw1r24lq9o1_250.gif

    • Karl Winrich

      Yes Biden really is that stupid. And to think that the media says nothing about it but yet the blasted Bush for 8 years over several of the idiotic comments he made.

  • aPLWBinAK

    “@FreeBeacon UPS will no longer deliver to the Biden house”……priceless! I literally laughed out loud at that one.

  • $35072932

    Guess we’re going to need one with the regime releasing criminals..

  • arttie

    Finally real jobs program from the administration, full employment for carpenters replacing doors!

  • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

    Women who have taken Joe Biden’s advice. The video demonstrates how much “easier” the shotgun is for women to handle.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jafkVM-jnbE

    • CatHerder

      Jeebus, you’d think these maroons never heard of Newton.

      Oh wait…

    • http://www.facebook.com/corey.dennison Corey Dennison

      I felt so sorry for some of the girls in that video…but I couldn’t stop laughing!

      Is that wrong?

      • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

        No, it’s not wrong to laugh at that video @facebook-679353944:disqus. I laughed so hard I spewed coffee out of my nose. However, on a good note, it made my husband happy when I said “Honey, I think I’m convinced I really need an AR-15 now”.

    • SpinMeNot

      TBP, I believe that women that take Joe Biden’s advice on self defense are more correctly referred to as “victims”.

      • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

        Correct!

  • Canadian in USA

    Of course Biden doesn’t have to take his own advice, he has the Secret Service to protect him. Besides, I’d doubt they’d let him near a gun.

  • Peyton

    Biden also said that we should ban Ar-15s because the cops are outgunned. But according to the following article, 70% of police officers killed in the line of duty are killed by handguns.

    • Peyton
    • SpinMeNot

      In any big city, there is a good chance that patrol units have an AR type weapon in them as well. Regardless, on top of the 70% number you cite, the number of long guns used in crime is incredibly small when compared to the number of handguns used in crimes. I seem to recall stats that indicate hammers and baseball bats are used more often in attacks that result in death of the victim than long guns are.

  • Michael Rice

    Just shoot through the door so you can get arrested

  • Rob

    Joe “Illegal Discharge” Biden

    • http://www.facebook.com/corey.dennison Corey Dennison

      Ewwww…that sounds so nasty!

  • Kingofthehill

    Man charged for firing gun in home

    http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/crime/man-charged-for-firing-gun-in-home

    Updated: Monday, 25 Feb 2013, 1:27 PM EST
    Published : Monday, 25 Feb 2013, 1:27 PM EST

    VIRGINIA
    BEACH, Va. (WAVY) – A 22-year-old man found himself facing a summons
    after he told officers he fired his shotgun repeatedly upon finding
    masked suspects leaning in his window.

    According to Grazia Moyers
    with the Virginia Beach Police Department, officers responded to the
    500 block of Mango Drive around 10:30 p.m. Saturday for a report of
    This guy took Biden’s advice… You think Biden will go bail him out?

    There, they spoke with the resident, Trevor Lamont
    Snowden, who told police his dog was acting strange. When he walked to
    his bedroom, he said he saw two masked suspects leaning in his open
    window.

    Snowden told police the suspects pointed weapons at him
    and told him to shut the bedroom door. Thinking the suspects were going
    to rob him, he moved into the hallway and retrieved a shotgun.

    Moyers
    said Snowden fired through his bedroom door, then opened the door and
    fired several more rounds toward the window. Any suspects fled the area
    and could not be located by officers.

    No one was injured and there were no reports of damage to other property.

    Snowden was charged with reckless handling of a firearm in the incident and released on a summons.

  • TocksNedlog

    A heartbeat away from the presidency
    A brainbeat away from the funny farm

    • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

      Nice one! Unfortunately too true for my comfort.

  • TocksNedlog

    Joe “The Scranton Plagiarizer” Biden stole this idea from Oscar Pistorius.

  • $23629333

    We’re supposed to laugh at Uncle Joe while the folks in charge ransack the sinking ship that is the USA.

  • bidentime

    Joe Bidens hands are registered as a lethal weapon.

  • sleazyrider

    Sit down…take a deep breath…and just think…that f**king idiot is second in command…that’s scary!

  • Adela Wagner

    Hope it’s ok to post a link to this great vid of women shooting double barrels vs. AR15’s, of course we knew it all along. First 30 sec is of Joe’s hilarious/ignorant “get a shotgun” interview then the proof begins…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jafkVM-jnbE

  • Cambria

    Knock knock…
    Boom!

  • DizzyMissL

    This guy is a complete MORON

  • traffic_robot

    This interview was embarrassing to read. What a moron.

  • RightThinking1

    Between Obama’s skeet shooting, Kerry’s French, and Joe Biden’s advice, I have suddenly recalled the SNL skit entitled “The Claudine Longet Ski Shoot”. Anyone remember that?

    • butty53

      YES! Chevy Chase and Jane Curtin…classic…agony of defeat.

      • RightThinking1

        Wish I could find the video clip

  • butty53

    Biden’s shotgun hit me. Will OCare cover? No good answers.
    #donnabrazilemysteries #pricegauging (sic) @donnabrazile

  • Karl Winrich

    It makes me wonder if Biden has ever fired a shotgun? They are cumbersome, and fairly heavy, and they kick like an angry mule. Why to shooters (esp. women) love the AR-15? They are light, easy to use, extremely reliable, versatile, and have virtually no recoil.

  • http://twitter.com/the1ringer Mason Depew

    Has anyone noticed there’s not a single person trying to defend this statement in all the seventy-something comments (at the time of this posting) in this thread?

    I guess the statement is so troll-like, the usual trolls can’t think of anything to add.

  • $23629333

    Do I have this right? Joe Biden recommends that – in the event of a national emergency – folks should arm themselves with shotguns, and fire through the front door as a deterrence against robbery, rape or worse.

    What happens when the folks from FEMA show up at your door to check on you?

  • http://www.wr2a.wordpress.com/ Donald Borsch Jr

    Gov Cuomo is probably thinking that’s a good idea now that The NY State Supreme Court is going after his SAFE Act:
    http://wr2a.wordpress.com/2013/02/28/nys-supreme-court-to-injunct-cuomo-safe-act/

  • Guest

    Firing a weapon, without ascertaining the identity and intent of the target,
    is a recipe for disaster.
    Comrade Biden’s porch light is flickering.

  • Adela Wagner

    Okay just wait one minute….Last week women were told not to trust their gut on knowing whether they were actually in danger or not, now another member of the Keystone (cops) Admin. says to “just shoot through the door”? Just no good answers here…but what difference does it make? They want to pass a “violence against womens act” so that should make all us delicate little flowers a LOT safer, since there are ALREADY LAWS on the books about violence against EVERYONE. At least now them darn criminals will stop and think twice because that’s what redundancy in the law does, makes ’em think twice.

  • JR48

    Not much gun knowledge here, but if you fire a 12 g with a slug through a wooden door, how far will it travel?

    I have an image of shooting the guy’s car that’s parked across the street…after it goes through the poor soul standing on my porch.