Senator Chris Van Hollen was interviewed by NBC News’ Kasie Hunt, who tried to get the Maryland Democrat to describe the Dems’ position on border security given the “abolish ICE” movement on the Left. Get ready for some dizzying spin:

Van Hollen danced around the question, but maybe it wasn’t even necessary, because even though Hunt might believe it’s “not very clear” where the Dems stand on border security, many think it’s VERY clear:

The Democrat spin continues.