The spittle was flying Thursday night on MSNBC during the Democratic debate, right up until the topic turned to foreign policy. Bernie Sanders, whose vocabulary apparently doesn’t include the words Benghazi or Libya, fell back on his standby argument that he made the correct vote on authorizing the Iraq War while his opponent did not. He then deferred to the experience of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Nope. The moderators had to bring up the FBI investigation because Sanders has pledged that he won’t.

  • reddarin

    Sanders is sort of a cross between Bob Dole and McLame. There must be a lot of Sanders supporters beating their heads against the wall.

    • Deplorable AMERICAN™✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      Don’t they do that normally, anyhow?

    • JV

      nah, more like a cross between a garden gnome and a haggard leprechaun

  • Canned Heat

    Being experienced at something doesn’t make you good at. The French were really experienced at war during the 20th century.

    • ArmchairMike

      She is only experienced at making terrible decisions.

    • KornKing

      National Motto: “I surrender”

  • Ragnar__Danneskjold

    He’s like a townie who peaked in high school. Always talking about that one time at that one party when Stacy let him go all the way.

    • JV

      that one time at band camp…..

    • caffinated1

      “Duuuude, remember that time behind the tastee freeze and…and…wha? Sweeeet”

    • JANET C BARGAR

      Actually he’s a U.S. Senator. Remind us again who you are?

  • Fingolfin

    What part of the Iraq war was illegal? Unless they mean the declaration of war thing.

    • Tyrconnell

      No part. But in the above I see only the Libya adventure labelled illegal, which that was, but then the Washington Examiner also calls the bombing campaign against Gaddafi an invasion.

      • Deplorable AMERICAN™✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        As it was.

        • Tyrconnell

          What regiments were sent in to remove Gaddafi? Where were the beachheads and drop-zones?

    • https://disqus.com/by/DocFarmer/ Doc Farmer✔ᶜᵒᵛᶠᵉᶠᵉ ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

      Oh, the illegal part? That would be the “we’re lying through our teeth because we need to keep blaming Dubya” part of the Iraq war…

  • Michelle ✓classified

    Cruise to the nomination based on his Iraq War vote? He’s got some large hurdles to conquer first. He wants to abolish the death penalty, but over 60% of Americans support it. He wants Universal Healthcare, but majority of Americans oppose it.

    This isn’t a one issue race.

    • ArtBrecher

      don’t forget that the old White Socialist wants to increase the national debt by around 19 Trillion dollars. and he’s totally not ashamed to admit he wants to tax the living hell out of everyone in the country in order to do so.

    • IronButterfly

      You know that the Chinese are licking their chops thinking about a Bernie presidency.

      • JANET C BARGAR

        so eloquently phrased!

      • Michelle ✓classified

        I think the whole world is licking it’s collective chops. Bernie wants to sing kumbaya with our enemies.

  • Fingolfin

    “Very clever”? Yes, looking indifferent to national security is clearly a winning strategy.

    • Perso Nasplit

      Technically better than capitulating and surrendering like we have done with iran.

  • SisterMary

    Why do the democrats insist on living in the past? Admittedly, 13 years ago is a lot more recent than the Crusades, but is nothing au courant in these peoples’ lives?

    • Deplorable AMERICAN™✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      We all know “progressivism” is a vision of the “future”, which is really the vision from the past.

      They should call it “regressivism”.

      • Maxx

        To keep a man in the gutter, you have to have one foot in the gutter yourself.

        That is the mantra of the Democratic Party. A collection of malcontents who declare that individuals cannot possibly hope to succeed in life unless one has an umbilical cord to liberalism. Liberals praise the collective while shaming individual accomplishment, even if the collective breeds incompetence at nearly every level of governance. One need only look at metropolitian cities like Detroit, Baltimore and Chicago to see the results of Democratic “progressiveness.”

      • Acuda4me ✓Please!

        Newspeak

    • skypilot77

      I have thought about this question: I believe it has to do with the socialist need to revise history. They pound their false talking points from the past to the point that no one wants to fight for the real story. With their view of the past “established” they are then able to put forth their plans for the future.

      • Tyrconnell

        Bingo, I even hear many who are opposed to socialism talking the same “past”.

  • Acuda4me ✓Please!

    Why does nobody ever bring up all the Union money he takes?

    • Tyrconnell

      Support from unions are a plus in Democrat circles.

      • Acuda4me ✓Please!

        Serial killers are a plus in Democrat circles.

    • https://disqus.com/by/DocFarmer/ Doc Farmer✔ᶜᵒᵛᶠᵉᶠᵉ ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

      Probably the same reason nobody ever asks, “how’d all this oxygen get into the room”? To them, it’s so obvious it needs no mention…

  • Acuda4me ✓Please!

    When will they start asking Sanders “gotcha” foreign policy questions like they used to do Trump?

  • Unclassifiable

    How in the bag is all of this when Bernie won’t bring up Benghazi, ISIS overrunning Lybia, Russia’s invasion of the Ukraine or any of the other wonderful foreign policy “triumphs” of Ms. Reset Button Homebrew Server?

  • JosephBloughs ✓Viagrafied

    With Clinton at these debates Sanders takes fastballs right over the middle of the plate and doesn’t even swing. All these things that are “not issues”… moron, Hillary would have him whacked in a dark alley someplace if she thought she could get away with it.

  • Maxx

    As incompetent as Hillary is, she will be the nominee. Beyond New Hampshire, there is no pathway for Sanders so a lot of bandwidth is being wasted on speculating about the old curmudgeon’s general election race, as entertaining as it may be.

    His odds are right up there with the infamous tall man’s shop in Tokyo.

    • Deplorable AMERICAN™✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      I don’t know about all that… His LIVs seem even MORE uninformed, than Obama’s if that were possible.

      I.e. the girl asked by some reporter if she could define socialism:

      “Socialism?”… “Ohhh boy…. I don’t think I can..” (stupid dumb girl laugh).

      • Maxx

        The fall of Bernie once he gets past NH will be his horrible support from African-Americans.

      • TwigaBob

        Neither can most of the posters anywhere that I’ve been. Neither can Robert Reich, although he’s supposed to be extremely smart and educated. If you need a laugh, read his defense of Bernie.

    • https://disqus.com/by/DocFarmer/ Doc Farmer✔ᶜᵒᵛᶠᵉᶠᵉ ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

      I actually worked with a tall gentleman in Japan. Tsuchibuchi-san, I believe his name was (I recall it because the mnemonic I used to remember was tsuchi-buchi-hoochy-koochy – stupid, but it worked). He spoke not a word of American, I spoke not a word of Japanese…

      But we both spoke IBM.

      And we were able to work quite well together!

      He had to be at least 6’4″ (maybe 6’6″) and was skinny as a freakin’ rail…

      Now that I think if it, when I was going to work one morning, walking to the subway station in Roppongi (the “party” district) I noted a young Japanese gentleman who had to be about 6’1″ or 6’2″, trying to negotiate a taxi ride home after a night of apparently vigorous drinking. I recall him because he was standing in the street stark freaking naked (not even shoes or socks). His friends were doing the negotiations. Apparently they weren’t close enough friends to hand him a jacket…

  • Don Reed

    Since they both represent the isolationists, why is this an issue?

  • nomorelies343

    I want a cage match of Bernie Bros and Hillary Harpies

  • ArmchairMike

    Hell of a choice, a liar and a thief running against a fucking imbecile.

  • lCOYAR

    This senile old idiot will get Trumped in November

  • interestedobserver2

    Actually, why should Bernie attack her over her e-mails — everyone already knows a) she lied and continues to lie about it, b) she did it to conceal corrupt practices as Secretary of State, and c) she put national security at risk by so doing. Bernie attacking her on this is unnecessary since the record continues to speak for itself, and also would make him like a big meanie meanie-head. So he’s taking the moral high ground while she continues to lie and obfuscate and self-destruct over it — it costs him nothing, and avoids any mud-wrestling with the pig. Of course, it IS stupid of him to not brush up on foreign policy and announce some thoughts on what he might choose to do, but hey, nobody said Grandpa was particularly smart in that regard…

    • Fingolfin

      He doesn’t have to go negative, just remind us that she is objectively a criminal and unfit for office.

  • C-4

    Clicked on some of those tweets about Bernie’s refusal to attack Hillary and read the replies:

    Refusing to put up a fight is “civility.” Being an obsequious pushover is now called “integrity.” Apparently thinking a criminal should be punished for her crimes is “crazy.”

    “Only Republicans” care about emails. Criminality activity is a “non issue.” I guess so. Republicans ARE the law and order types, while Democrats want to abolish prisons and institute “criminal justice reform,” which is basically a get out of jail free card.

    I guess you can’t really care about national security if you don’t believe in the nation to begin with. Democrat candidates should be instantly disqualified from office, and their voters should be institutionalized. Partisan psychos putting the nation at risk in favor of their favorite personalities.

  • The_Kat ✓vilified

    You know why Bernie won’t beat Hillary over the head with Benghazi, Libya, and her emails? Because Republicans question them. Remember, Democrats only support what Republicans are against regardless of whether it makes sense or not. Bernie would rather hang himself than go against the Democrat machine. They have no principles. They have no morals. They are just power hungry elitists who are constantly fighting against whatever the right supports.

  • NeoDawg

    History has shown that Democrats require more substance than a single issue from their candidates. You must have at least two. Like HOPE —- and CHANGE!

    • Deplorable Nigel Pinchley

      Well you have to Obozo has succeeded. He’s left us desperately hoping for change!

  • Barry A. Brewer

    Frequent flyer miles do NOT equal experience

    • https://disqus.com/by/DocFarmer/ Doc Farmer✔ᶜᵒᵛᶠᵉᶠᵉ ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

      No, but they do equal some pretty good upgrades from what I’m told…

      Not sure if that applies to the Presidency, though. I know some sales and tech reps who could probably qualify more than the Hildebeest on FFMiles alone…

    • Suzyqpie

      A portion of those miles were flown as SoS. An equal number, I speculate, were flown as a rep for Clinton Inc. Does anyone think that all those dollars flowing to Clinton Inc from ME countries were driven by altruism……the Arabs are famous for their global altruism and philanthropy.

      • Deplorable Nigel Pinchley

        The best part is that when she was drumming up payola while she was SoS she got to use an Air Force plane that’s decked out as nicely as most business jets saving the Clinton Foundation Slush Fund a ton of bucks to use on other niceties for Hill ‘n Bill.

  • Oysteria (I won)

    “Sanders is shockingly flimsy on foreign policy.”

    So is Hillary. It isn’t that she doesn’t know stuff. It’s that everything she knows is wrong. I know her job was to carry out the president’s policies, but that argument is a no-win for her. She has to own her disasters or use the defense, “I was only doing what I was told”.

    • Deplorable Nigel Pinchley

      If he’s thin on foreign policy he’s absolutely disastrous on economics!

  • D H

    Sanders should consider saying”at least I know how to keep secrets, secret.”

  • JV

    yep – so ole Bernie wins nomination, hell freezes over and he gets elected

    The OLDEST president to be sworn in for first term

    Will he be introduced to “end of life” pamphlets from the HHS Obamacare bureaucrats?

    • Crakalakin

      Actually, if Bernie wins, he will be sworn in at age 75, older than Reagan when he was sworn in for his second term.

  • JV

    Gotta LOVE the hypocrisy of the left

    GOP has no diversity, all old white guys

    Democrat socialists nominate gasp…. AN OLD WHITE GUY

    who happens to be running in the clown show primary against…. AN OLD WHITE WOMAN

    ROFLMAO

    • prado4587

      It’s even better…Democratic Socialists didn’t even support W’s nationalization of the banks in 2008, a textbook socialist move. Bernie, Hillary, and the rest of the left must be stopped in favor of the economic diversity of the GOP http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/weekly-updates/20-banks-forced-bailout/

      • journogal

        Not that it matters to you troll, but Bush hasn’t been in office since 2008. We’ve had two terms of Obama. Time to grow up, move on and realize that during the last two terms of Bush’s administration, Democrats held both House and Senate. Up until the 2010 special election to fill Kennedy’s seat, Democrats had a super majority. The Senate only flipped recently.

        Pretty pathetic that you continue to bring up W. But you do come across as a rube stuck in the past.

      • Fingolfin

        Yes the liberal Republicans need to be stopped.

  • Hotlanta Mike

    That was Obama’s argument against McCain 8 years ago – judgement over experience, despite the fact that no where was there a record of outstanding judgement on the part of Obama. To the contrary palling around with domestic terrorists, felons (Rezko) and racist preachers to name but a few…

  • Hotlanta Mike
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS8RjCRolSM Sanchez

    Clinton is the worst candidate for Pres in US history.

    ZERO qualifications and thousands of reasons she has disqualified herself form the office.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS8RjCRolSM Sanchez

    It is rich to see libs call Cruz a liar and not admit Clinton is.

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  • Kawfy

    It almost seems like there has been an agreement between the two, to not bring up the emails…but all else is fair game. I don’t think Bernie thought he had a chance in hell….but he is feeling emboldened after Iowa and has one hand tied behind his back…just my perception at the moment. The die hard dems have a terrible choice to make, a pathological liar or an avowed socialist. This is going to be fun watching just how much they’d give up just to vote for someone…ANYONE..with a (D) next to their name.

  • kennyraisin

    After Bernie and Hildabeest are out of a job they can always fill in for the Muppet Show. Hildabeest, of course, would be Miss Piggy. Bernie would be Waldorf (Old guy in the balcony).

    • algonquinmatt

      be careful what you wish for. Miss Piggy twerks now.

      • kennyraisin

        Aaaah. It berns, it berns.

    • Deplorable Nigel Pinchley

      Add Old Joe to that mix and they could be Bernie and Biden. They look about the same.

      • Suzyqpie

        The physical resemblance is truly uncanny……..

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS8RjCRolSM Sanchez

    I cannot remember a more sad ticket for any party than the Dem ticket this year.

    • algonquinmatt

      Democrats really are in denial. Nobody but Hillary Clinton could’ve made this 74 year old socialist relevant.

      • Suzyqpie

        The denial, it’s very powerful. The $29-donation-fairness-guy Bernie Sanders is who the Democrats want to be. The corrupt and venal Hillary Clinton is who they are.

  • https://disqus.com/home/channel/ncaafchattertalkaboutcollegefootball/ Dave ✓’ed out

    “A vote in 2002 is not a plan to defeat ISIS”

    Okay, while I despise Hillary Clinton with a passion, I have to give credit where credit is due. That’s a pretty good burn right there.

  • Shoeless Joe

    If Sanders brain was not floating above the ozone layer trying to dissect the Marxist Dialectic
    he might have a better rejoinder to Hilllays foreign policy credentials.
    ” Yes Mrs Clinton has foreign policy experience, but no accomplisments. The restart.with
    Russia was a failure, as was her absence during Benghazi. The Bin Laden Raid had nothing
    more to do with her other than a photo op.

    • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

      I think the purpose of Bernie’s campaign is to keep the left engaged not to really win but get them to turn out to vote. No one on the democrat side are what anyone would describe as new, exciting, charismatic or inspiring. The democrats have two old white DC denizens running for president. How long has Bernie sat in the US Senate not producing anything? The democrats couldn’t even find a democrat to gin up their base they are using an old socialist from Vermont promising millennials unicorns and rainbows.

  • John Galt

    Let me be the first, since it hasn’t made Twitchy status yet…I hear that Michael “got a spare donut?” Moore is in ICU with pneumonia.

    Would that be an ICU in CUBA????

  • Russ

    Every time Bernie had a chance to make Hillary really squirm, he backed away. Every. Single. Time.

    Duuude, this is politics. It’s blood sport.

    I don’t get it. He seems to be the only Senator who looks like a disheveled homeless guy using a borrowed suit for a job interview. It could be an attempt to look like an “Average Joe,” but anyone with an internet connection could look up his $174k/year congressional salary, and know otherwise.

    Pro tip: If you want the job, try to look the part, act the part, and do better in the interview than saying you think you made a good decision 24 years ago. Holy cow.

    • WillyPs

      You’ve never been to Vermont, have you?

      • Russ

        Only to ski at Killington, and for summer camp when I was a kid. Everyone was either wearing skiing outfits, or breeches, riding boots, and hunt caps, depending on location and season.

  • The Dragon

    Colonel Sanders is a chicken

  • Dwayne Mountain Dew Camacho

    Just a reminder…the Iraq War brought down a murderous genocidal dictator that killed his people with chemical weapons, and refused to comply with treaty that he signed after he invaded Kuwait.

    The result was free elections….

    That is until….Obama got elected and now people are literally set on fire, because they followed what people like Bernie told them to do.

  • maggieinWY

    Did he really say “judgment” and not “good judgment”, because if that’s the case, he does, in fact, have… judgment. It’s just not good in the real world.

  • alanstorm

    “But experience isn’t the point. Judgment is.”

    Thus disqualifying the entire Dem slate.

  • http://wandererswaysite.wordpress.com Wanderer

    “Experience isn’t the point. Judgment is.”

    On that, and only that, we agree, Bernie. And both you and Her Inevitableness have consistently displayed nothing but an abject lack of good judgment no matter how many plane trips she could get drunk on.

    Even your side is getting tired of the Iraq vote baloney. Stop bragging about being wrong and proud of it over a decade ago.

  • © Sponge

    Sanders has never held a real job. Does this really surprise anyone? He’s got NO CLUE how it works in the “real world.”

    He’s been sucking the tax tit for so long, his lips are permanently shaped like a nipple.

    We’re so screwed. THIS is the best of the best? No wonder the rest of the world is laughing at us.