Buckle up, folks. You’re about to witness one progressive’s rapid descent into bona fide madness.
Nothing is dumber than conservatives whining about http://t.co/UY2q8jqyy6 glitches & then saying you shouldn't want exchange insurance.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 22, 2013
Amanda Marcotte is shocked — shocked! — at citizens’ claims about higher premiums due to Obamacare. The very idea! If this isn’t proof of a vast right-wing conspiracy, she doesn’t know what is!
If you actually think exchange insurance is bad, then you should celebrate people not getting onto http://t.co/UY2q8jqyy6.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 22, 2013
Except many of those trying to log onto Healthcare.gov are doing so because they can’t keep their insurance as Obama promised. But as we’ll see, Amanda doesn’t think the president ever made such a promise.
I suspect that the administration just underestimated the mad rush to get insurance. People are more excited than predicted.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 22, 2013
I don't know whether to be delighted that conservatives are deliberately picking higher insurance premiums or to pity them.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
So, conservatives want to spend more money for crappier care? Could’ve fooled us.
Man, I got a weird rush of half-literate tweets screaming at me that people don't want health insurance last night. Must be Michelle Malkin.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
Actually, Malkin (who owns Twitchy) wants health insurance. Her plan is being cancelled because it doesn’t comply with Obamacare’s requirements.
It's actually kind of chilling how many right wingers are assuring me that it couldn't be possible that Americans want health care.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
What’s chilling is that Marcotte actually believes this is the case. One tweeter attempted to set her straight:
https://twitter.com/Matt_Given/status/393009517190868992
To no avail:
@Matt_Given I'll bite. What do you think you get when you go to the exchanges, if not an opportunity to buy health insurance?
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
Well, what many consumers get is a series of error pages.
Okay, y'all, according to the hate tweets I'm getting, going onto health care exchanges is not about buying insurance. Maybe witchcraft?
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
https://twitter.com/Matt_Given/status/393011130387288064
https://twitter.com/Matt_Given/status/393010793047785472
https://twitter.com/Matt_Given/status/393011996431368193
That’s because it is factual. But we digress.
@Matt_Given So now you're agreeing that you can buy health insurance through it? Confirmation of my suspicion y'all know you're lying.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
So she’s demanding proof that conservatives are telling the truth, with one important stipulation: She’s not actually interested in the truth if it proves her wrong.
Conservatives: Since you are so incredibly sure your premiums are higher on the exchanges, why not take screenshots to prove it?
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
You'll find, conservatives saying you have higher premiums on the exchange is a simple thing to prove. Instructions: https://t.co/cRnF1vE8mi
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
@nonsequiteuse In some cases, people's insurance is getting cancelled for not being up to code. But it's usually crap insurance.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
Sorry, Amanda. But it’s not the government’s role to decide what’s “up to code” for individuals; it’s the consumer’s job.
@jedipadmaster Yep, asking them for a screenshot to prove a) they went on the exchange and b) it was expensive shuts them up fast.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
If you screech bullshit at me, blocked. However, I am accepting screenshots where you prove your premium went up on the exchange. #notakers
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
@TheVeritable I'll just take one person who claims the exchanges are higher than their premium costs bothering to prove they looked.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
I knew you were lying! Cheap weasel. I just need screenshots of your prices. RT @MickBlanco why would I send you my info?
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
As to my request for screenshots proving that your rates went up on the exchange, no takers but one guy feigning umbrage!
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
@_MELodramatic_ I just need the prices. They can screenshot their personal info out. But they won't, because they're lying.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
@_MELodramatic_ In fact, my guess is 100% of wingnuts saying their prices are going up haven't actually looked.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
I'm also curious why people who believe the "exchanges are more expensive" lie believe the President would jack rates up for the hell of it.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
http://t.co/JP7yjNNdWY So far, the people who claim to be screwed by Obamacare have all been demonstrated to be lying.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
@32ozCoke Sorry, I'm not accepting bullshit, just screenshots proving your premiums are higher on the exchanges. #notakers
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
She’s much more comfortable spreading B.S:
@mrussRSF That's not what I asked for. Not stories on glitches, which are getting fixed. Proof that your premiums went up. Different!
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
@Ringo6 I didn't ask for bullshit. If your premium went up, please screenshot and send. #notakers
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
@MichaelBlum3 Screenshots or it didn't happen.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
I ask for screenshots showing exchange premiums are higher. I get: People bullshitting, stories about glitches, whining. No screenshots.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
Anyone else get the feeling that she’s not actually interested in the truth?
@mrussRSF I realize instructions are hard, but simply take a picture of your current premium, sign on, screenshot your now higher premium.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
@mrussRSF I watched. I don't see in this video where it says your actual premium went up. It seems to be about a glitch that can be fixed.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
Just a glitch, guys.
@JasPar Remember, you also need to provide evidence that your comparable coverage before was cheaper. Enjoy!
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
@JasPar Yeah, it's really not. I'm looking for people who bought on the individual market and had premiums go up for a comparable plan.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
At least one person tweeted evidence that his rate will be much higher if he switches to an Obamacare plan:
https://twitter.com/andrewherndon/status/393520567313526784
The letter states that his family’s new monthly premium will be $810 per month, up from $263. To sane people, that sounds like a price increase. To Amanda Marcotte, by strong contrast, this photo will no doubt be deemed inadequate because it doesn’t include a screenshot from the dysfunctional ACA website (which, by the way, appears to be understating premiums).
Of course, the gentleman above isn’t alone:
#InsuranceCanceled $429/month premium. Under ACA/Obamacare for similar policy w/ higher deductible now $779
— Jerrod Dozier (@Jerrod_Dozier) October 24, 2013
@SenatorKirk the ACA is ruining my life. Cheapest policy is 3x my current premium and I can't afford it! Defund the ACA NOW!
— Denise Sanders (@tsis_denise) October 23, 2013
#InsuranceCanceled $380/month premium. Under ACA/Obamacare for similar policy w/ higher deductible now $719
— Lori Patriot (@LoriPatriot) October 25, 2013
Thanks A Lot, Mr. President! My Health Premium Is Up 114% http://t.co/H7ZMvc410X via @forbes #aca
— George Anders (@GeorgeAnders) October 18, 2013
"I was completely happy with the insurance I had before." http://t.co/5zA2o4vLGN
— John Dickerson (@jdickerson) October 25, 2013
But those people must all be lying, because they didn’t post screenshots.
We suppose Democrat Kirsten Powers is a liar, too. Right, Amanda?
Other liberals, like Ezra Klein, have acknowledged that there are winners and losers under Obamacare:
When we talk about rate shock … what we’re saying here is if you look at younger, healthier people, before talking about subsidies in this case, who are in the individual market now, who are buying a very cheap plan now because typically you’ve been comparing the cheapest plan in ehealthinsurance.com to what we’re dealing with. If you look at what they’re paying, and you assume they don’t get subsidies, they might end up paying more or in many cases, frankly, let’s say they will end up paying more …
And here’s Klein making the same point again:
Some people will find the new rules make insurance more expensive. That’s in part because their health insurance was made cheap by turning away sick people. The new rules also won’t allow for as much discrimination based on age or gender. The flip side of that, of course, is that many will suddenly find their health insurance is much cheaper, or they will find that, for the first time, they’re not turned away when they try to buy health insurance. [Emphasis added.]
That’s because Klein, though he is very liberal, is not completely insane.
Speaking of insanity, take a look at this amazing exchange:
It's actually straight up monstrous the way that Fox News convinced their viewers to be too afraid to look at http://t.co/UY2q8jqyy6.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
https://twitter.com/wtspaugh/status/393010267027955712
@wtspaugh It's actually monstrous the way you and yours are trying to trick people out of health insurance.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
https://twitter.com/wtspaugh/status/393010876707770368
https://twitter.com/wtspaugh/status/393016257496489984
@wtspaugh I'm deeply concerned about people who use Fox News as a source of information. It's really not.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
https://twitter.com/wtspaugh/status/393017193086345216
@wtspaugh So where did you get this lie? I'm curious who's doing the misinforming these days.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
https://twitter.com/wtspaugh/status/393019609496182785
That link goes to NBC’s post of Kaiser Health News’ report on the hundreds of thousands of Americans receiving policy cancellation notices. But according to Marcotte, those Americans were left high and dry because their existing plans just weren’t good enough:
@wtspaugh You know that you misrepresented what's going on, right? Their plans weren't up to code and they need plans that are.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
@wtspaugh If someone's car doesn't pass inspection, it's dishonest to say, "The government took away their right to drive!!!!!!"
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
@wtspaugh "By all accounts, the new policies will offer consumers better coverage, in some cases, for comparable cost"
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
https://twitter.com/wtspaugh/status/393020576488771585
https://twitter.com/wtspaugh/status/393021124738834432
@wtspaugh Okay, it's been fun, but since you're lying about where you got this bullshit narrative & I don't deal with liars, we're done.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) October 23, 2013
The truth is “bullshit.” Ladies and gentlemen, the progressive mindset in a nutshell.
So basically @AmandaMarcotte's argument got completely destroyed by @wtspaugh and she ran for the hills. She's such boring, typical leftist.
— Anthony Abides (@AnthonyAbides) October 23, 2013
And delusional! Don’t forget delusional!
This is cute @AmandaMarcotte but it's tough to get screenshots of a non functioning website. But keep denying reality, cupcake 🙂
— Heather (@hboulware) October 23, 2013
Umm the website crashed because of a "mad rush" of 2,000 users: https://t.co/XbD4fdLdY3
— AG (@AG_Conservative) October 23, 2013
cocaine is a helluva drug. "@AmandaMarcotte: "…People are more excited than predicted."
— Sean Agnew (@seanagnew) October 23, 2013
Ummm, yeah. That must be it. LOL "@AmandaMarcotte I suspect that the administration just underestimated the mad rush to get insurance"
— Suze (@suze109) October 23, 2013
I sincerely hope Obamacare covers dementia. cc @AmandaMarcotte
— Stephen Miller (@redsteeze) October 23, 2013
@AmandaMarcotte's premise makes complete sense if you start somewhere in Narnia without a map back to reality and no meds.
— Stephen Miller (@redsteeze) October 23, 2013
@redsteeze Which stage of grief are we at? Is this anger or denial? @AmandaMarcotte
— T. Becket Adams (@BecketAdams) October 23, 2013
How about both?
@JohnEkdahl Too bad @AmandaMarcotte never demanded such proof from @BarackObama on any of his many lies.
— Al Foote (@FooteAl) October 23, 2013
@AmandaMarcotte wow you are one classy lady.. I'm lying? Really, you keep your head buried…
— Robert Davis Garner (@MickBlanco) October 23, 2013
As I say, some progressives just can’t cope with what is happening: http://t.co/KI7uoYtce2
— Charles C. W. Cooke (@charlescwcooke) October 23, 2013
I suspect @AmandaMarcotte is unwilling to face the reality of how badly the Admin failed with Ocare. *Not Shocked Face*
— Heather (@hboulware) October 23, 2013
Reality is hard, you guys.
Has any liberal bothered to explain why states are seeing hundreds of 1000ks cancellation notices when Obama said we could keep our plans?
— LMR (@LilMissRightie) October 23, 2013
No wait, I know…!! Maybe its a VAST REICH-WING CONSPIRACY that there's video of Obama saying we'd keep our plans & our doctors. #SmartTake
— LMR (@LilMissRightie) October 23, 2013
Just broke a rib laughing at these imbeciles. They're in such deep, Deep, DEEP denial. What can you even say about it? #OutOfOrbit
— LMR (@LilMissRightie) October 23, 2013
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Related:
Flashback: Obama pledged to reduce health insurance premiums by $2,500 per family per year
Health insurers to customers: If you like your plan, you can keep … nah, you’re screwed
Hey, know what you get to ‘keep’ with Obamacare? Cancellation notices
‘Affordable’ care: NC family’s health insurance premiums to skyrocket 430 percent
Obamacare train wreck: Americans tweet anger, surprise over cancellations, higher premiums
WH flack @HealthCareTara pushes MMFA spin; Crickets when citizens tell her ‘my plan was canceled’
O-Scare avalanche: Escaped cancellation notice? Americans ‘keep’ doubled, tripled premiums
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