Who says he can’t be both?
Matthews: Do you believe in punishment for abortion? Yes or no, as a principle.
Trump: The answer is … that … there has to be some form of punishment.
Matthews: For the woman?
Trump: Yeah, there has to be some form.
Matthews: Ten cents? Ten years? What?
Trump: I don’t know. That, I don’t know. That, I don’t know.
Matthews: Well, why not?
Trump: I don’t know. Because I don’t know.
Matthews: You take positions on everything else.
Trump: I, frankly, I do take positions on everything else. It’s a very complicated position.
More from NBC News:
When asked what kind of punishment he had in mind, Trump lacked specifics and said he has “not determined what the punishment would be.” Trump noted that he does “take positions on everything else but this is a very complicated position.”
“If you say abortion is a crime or abortion is murder, you have to deal with it under the law,” Matthews stated, making the pivot from the moral position of being pro-life to the practical implications of implementing that position in the law.
Trump asked Matthews “are you going to say, well wait, are you going to say put them in jail? Is that the punishment you’re talking about?”
Trump doesn’t seem to have a clue what he’s talking about.
His only consistent position seems to be pro-whatever-garbage-happens-to-be-rattling-around-his-brain-at-the-moment.
This subsequent statement certainly doesn’t make him sound any more competent:
Bull. Trump is the anti-Reagan. He is no conservative.
And against basic human decency.
Editor’s note: This post has been updated with additional tweets.
Guess Donald picked up on how well his comments went over with pro-lifers, because he’s issued yet another statement: