Wow:

From the Houston Chronicle:

A Harris County grand jury probe into Planned Parenthood of the Gulf Coast ended Monday with the indictments of two anti-abortion activists.

David Daleiden and Sandra Merritt were both indicted for tampering with a governmental record. An additional indictment for prohibition of the purchase and sale of human organs was issued for Daleiden, according to a release from the Harris County District Attorneys Office.

“We were called upon to investigate allegations of criminal conduct by Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast,” said Harris County District Attorney Devon Anderson. “As I stated at the outset of this investigation, we must go where the evidence leads us. All the evidence uncovered in the course of this investigation was presented to the grand jury. I respect their decision on this difficult case.”

  • wasp69

    The District Attorney in Washington decided, in view of the circumstances, not to charge David Gregory.

    In view of the circumstances… So, despite the fact that he clearly broke the law while “doing his job” as a “real journalist”, “circumstances” clears him – according to your standards.

    Hypocrite much, oldman?

    The District Attorney in Houston gave the grand jury the ‘evidence’ and they found it pointed in the direction of the phonies, not Planned Parenthood.

    Which is fine, and you have confirmed you are unaware of the “ham sandwich” standard.

    If I were you, I’d be less concerned with Harris County’s indictment and more concerned about the still ongoing Texas State investigation and the discovery phase of any trial that comes up.

    Georgia, South Dakota, Missouri, and Massachusetts have found the videos to be BS.

    Still haven’t figured out the differences, have you, oldman?

    the GOP has fallen down – drunk on fanatical religious fervor.

    I would like to point out that most liberals love to claim that they were staunch Republicans until “their party” was hijacked by religious fanatics. With that, I want to juxtapose the above quote with this one:

    …voted for Reagan…

    Ronald Reagan was a very public, and unapologetic, Christian that mentioned God and Jesus very frequently.

    Now, you want to try and tell me that you never noticed that, or are you going to try and convince me that you – someone who has demonstrated how their morals and standards are as flexible as Gumby – just somehow didn’t know?

    • oldman66

      Planned Parenthood found not guilty after extensive (and expensive) investigations: Kansas, Washington, Missouri, Florida, Pennsylvania, Georgia, South Dakota, Indiana, Massachusetts, and Michigan. Then there’s Texas, which also found them not guilty, and indicted the video folks. Since California, and Colorado are the only other two states where PP has been involved in fetal tissue donation, I guess we see how that turns out. I’m more concerned about the endless time and money being spent by right wing leaders to continue investigations.

  • interestedobserver2

    Really? Revisionist much? Most of the pastors whose sermons were demanded were NOT involved in the case — they merely expressed their opinions on it. Their sermons from the pulpit are not “relevant legal documents,” nor were they in violation of any court order regarding any case that the preachers may or may not have been involved in. This was entirely about attempting to suppress their freedom of speech.

    That you would even attempt that argument shows you as a bald-faced liar.

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    • ThatBaldGuy

      Always consider the source of information. An article by a far-right publication about an analysis paid for by a far-right organization is not a good source. That’s just as credible as a study paid for by PETA that says no one should eat meat, i.e. not credible at all. No one is a disinterested third party when they’re being paid by an interested party, my friend. That’s the way the world works.

      • blockthiscnn

        Ad hominem circumstantial.

        Just because PETA commissions a study on meat doesn’t mean the findings are skewed. It’s the facts themselves that matter.

        The report commissioned by PP has credibility issues independent of who did the review, number one of which is they only reviewed the initially released edited videos, not the complete unedited videos (which are also publicly available) that coalfire reviewed.

        http://www.nationalreview.com/article/423246/planned-parenthoods-commissioned-video-review-proves-authenticity-its-employees

        I won’t mention that Fusion-GPS (whom PP commissioned) also has a history of Democratic smear campaigns, as that would be ad hominem circumstantial.

        • ThatBaldGuy

          Do you know where I can find a complete copy of their report? I found 14 pages but that’s not the entire report. A forensic examination report has a summary of conclusions and those at least are missing.

    • ThatBaldGuy

      Would you believe a study paid for by PETA that concluded that people should never eat meat? There is no such thing as a disinterested third party when they are being paid by an interested party, my friend. I would no sooner believe that report than the one commissioned by PP. Did you notice those two reports state exactly opposite conclusion?

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    • Quality

      How so? Be specific.

      Your link doesn’t refute my statement at all – I directly said editing wasn’t the relevant factor (though the small, context-free snippets that CMP and other pro-life sites circulated were certainly dishonesty via editing). The main way they misled was by not informing their gullible followers that cost compensation for tissue donation is completely legal.

      • blockthiscnn

        They don’t need to because what was discussed in the video wasn’t cost compensation. It was how to get the most out of it. They didn’t talk about how much it cost to store and ship parts. They talked about the best way to alter procedures to get more specimen intact and discussed prices.

        • Quality

          The conversation is *explicitly* about compensation. The PP exec makes that clear and says she will have to check with a local affiliate on what the standard compensation rate is. The CMP guy then tries to offer extra money which she doesn’t fall for at all.

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          • Quality

            That’s because they edited it. CMP is counting on you not watching the full videos or reading the full transcripts.

            Gatter: I was going to say $50, because I know places that did $50, too. But
            see we don’t, we’re not in it for the money, and we don’t want to be in a
            position of being accused of selling tissue, and stuff like that. On the
            other hand, there are costs associated with the use of our space, and that kind of
            stuff, so what were you thinking about?

            Later, when he brings up price again, she says

            Gatter: Well let me agree to find out what other affiliates in California
            are getting, and if they’re getting substantially more, then we can discuss it
            then.

            She never haggles over money because she admits to not knowing off-hand what the standard reimbursement costs are. The only person who haggles in the “buyer”, who nonsensically raises his own offer.

          • Quality

            She even uses the specific word “compensation”.

            Gatter: It’s been years since I talked about compensation, so let me just
            figure out what others are getting, if this is in the ballpark, it’s fine, if it’s
            still low then we can bump it up.

  • blockthiscnn

    Yes, because every Republican out there is completely pro life.

    His political party means nothing. The fact that he’s got a Planned Parenthood board member on his staff is concerning though.

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  • blockthiscnn

    Oh, I do. Grand jury rules of evidence and procedure are heavily weighted in favor of the prosecution.

    • oldman66

      That’s exactly what makes it unusual that the grand jury found in favor of the accused – and handed down an indictment of the accusers.

      • blockthiscnn

        And the charges make me think the DA is going to throw the case. I don’t see them setting precedent of prosecuting undercover journalists because the journalists used fake ID to protect their identity. Also, organ trafficking would have to show intent, and I think it’s rather obvious that CMP was never going to traffic organs. PP was all too willing to modify procedures in order to improve specimens though (which is against the law).

  • blockthiscnn

    Yeah, except no.

    It’s the liberal enclave of Houston. The same city who tried to subpoena pastors sermons to see if they quoted the Bible on gays.

    The failed gimmick here is yours.

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    Not quite. A staff member, not the DA sits on the board.

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  • Dibaby1979

    PP was cleared of wrong doing by the most corrupt government leadership this country has ever had.

  • Finrod Felagund

    Go die in a fire, idiot leftist troll.

    • NotReveen

      To Republicans, trolls are people who tell the plain truth. Try to remember how stupid you are.

      • Finrod Felagund

        You wouldn’t know what truth was if it punched you in the face and kicked you in the shin, idiot leftist.

        • NotReveen

          I just told you what the truth was, but since you’re a moron, it made you angry. Again, try to remember how stupid you are. Intelligent people can spot morons in a second.

          • Finrod Felagund

            Only fools have to tell themselves how intelligent they are by denigrating the intelligence of others. Now go back to your leftist blogs and tell them how much “smarter” you are than those conservatives you couldn’t even come close to rattling with your silly leftist talking points.

          • NotReveen

            I haven’t said anything remotely leftist. It’s just that you’ve been trained to see the truth and liberalism as the same thing. Try to remember how stupid you are.

  • Finrod Felagund

    Instead they vote for the party that wants to make them financial slaves. Oh, and you’re a bloody idiot.

  • mikeyz99

    MY head in the sand? Oh precious.

    Please cite any investigation supporting your claim.

  • mikeyz99

    In addition to the Congressional investigation last summer that turned up no wrongdoing, multiple states have investigated. ie., http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/251664-pennsylvania-becomes-fifth-state-to-find-no-planned-parenthood-wrongdoing

    The film was found to have been edited to present a false picture.

  • Dan Summers

    Since the buying baby parts has already been proven a lie by multiple sources and investigations I am also eager for the trial.

    • Ralph Trout

      stories not over…GJ voting improprieties now reported……follow the money !….Chip Lewis, PP LAWYER….a longtime political donor in Houston whose beneficiaries include DA Anderson.
      Texas Politics, reported that Lewis donated over $25,000 to Devon Anderson in 2014 alone and that $12,000
      he had donated in 2012 and 2013 to her husband (who died in August 2013
      of cancer) was transferred to her campaign account….ALSO this DA office has consistently not prosecuted people using false id’s……….there are things that don’t -pass the ‘smell test”….but I”m sure since this was ruled the way it was…that “smell test” wont matter…it’s ALL gonna come out in the end….

  • Dan Summers

    What about the story that has already been proven a lie that you are keeping down? The selling of baby parts has already been proven a lie.

  • Dan Summers

    There is no evidence of that at all!! There is no secret Black Market for baby parts. These are not reporters by the way…they are all antoi-aborition activists with an agenda…hardly the unbiased person that should be investigating anything.

    So who were they supposedly selling these parts to? If there is proof of them selling them, who bought them? Where are the records of these sales? Which of the parts were sold?

    10 States have investigated and Not a single trace of evidence exists.

    Fetal Tissue does get DONATED for research purposes. All that Ice dumping over the head for ALS research…was helping support research done on fetal tissue. Planned Parenthood recoups the costs of storing and transporting tissue for the many, many other entities, some of them public, that use fetal tissue to conduct research, and it’s totally legal for Planned Parenthood, or any other medical entity that participates in fetal tissue donation programs, to collect this reimbursement

  • Dan Summers

    Good thing he is not the one lying about the Black Market for “baby parts”.

  • Dan Summers

    A Fetus is not a person.

    And no Thou Shalt Not Kill is not a law in the USA. Murder is against the law, killing is not. If disposing of a group of cells with the potential of being a human is murder then so is masterbation.

    Also the the Legal system is not based on the Christian Faith, not can it be. So your religious laws have no power over the rest of the society.

  • Dan Summers

    Teaching Abstinence Only does not work. If it worked then the teen pregenancy rates would be non-existant. And even Abstinence is not 100% effective if you want to believe in the Bible. Monogamy also does not prevent pregnancy either.

    Birth Control works…PEROID! Sex is Sex. Marriage has nothing to do with.
    Birth control does not objectify women. It gives them control over their own bodies. lets them decide when they want to get pregnant and have kids. It’s a great tool for family planning. My wife was on Birth control the first few years of our marriage…we did not want kids just yet at that time.
    By the way Women use men for sex too. Women also objectify men.

  • Dan Summers

    No the videos were lies. Unless you believe there is a large Republican Cover up that spans accross 10 states and they made a real big show of trying to prove the videos were real. If you beleive that then nothing can change your mind.

    All the evidence says the videos are fake. If they were real this would not even be a discussion, it would be an open and shut case. There is no evidence to support the claim.

  • Dan Summers

    It is forced Birth when you are denying some one the right to get an aborition if they want one. Forcing them to carry the fetus to term and then give birth.

    If they want to get an aborition and are denied it is a forced birth.

    If Slavery were legal then yes, I would have the option to Not have one. Since you did bring up slavery; it is supported and promoted in the Bible by God. So according to the Bible Slavery is a good thing. So do you support Slavery?

  • Captain_Sensible50

    Well, it turns out that we have a bit more info now.

    The charge of “altering government property” turns out to be fake driver’s licenses that the CMP investigators had printed. Seems to me a case of extraordinary weaksauce, but I suppose it is a violation.

    Also turn out that one of the prosecutors is a board member of….Planned Parenthood. That should be, in and of itself, enough to get the case thrown out.

    • sherrybb

      Actually, the prosecutor was not in any way involved on the case…at all. This was disclosed at the very beginning when the investigation began. The DA’s office has 600 or so employees…300 of them are attorneys. They do not all work on the same cases and as long as people do not work on a case they have a conflict in, there is no conflict. The DA commented on this altering govt problem thing…she said that it was against Texas law. She is a pro life attorney who said that she has to go where the evidence is , regardless of what she personally thinks about abortion.