Maybe Donald Trump’s not as anti-establishment as some people think. It seems GOP Sen. Orrin Hatch — one of the most “establishment” senators out there — thinks Trump could be the ticket to a GOP victory in November:

https://twitter.com/JGreenDC/status/690264370283188224

https://twitter.com/JGreenDC/status/690265102642200576

Welp.

https://twitter.com/wupton/status/690265584198668288

  • kch50428

    Because he hates Ted Cruz more than he hates the Massengill candidate Trump…

    • grais

      The fact that they hate Cruz is one of the big reasons I’ve been on his side. They hate him because he’s already been calling them out and slapping them around. He knows how to do it.
      Trump just calls names and spouts polls #s

      • john lecorchick

        the endorsement of Donnie by Borrin Snatch (I know) only confirms my position that Cruz is the answer

      • Maxx

        My, how quickly the outsider has become the darling of the insiders. If Trump wins in November, the man who would be king is going to find out real soon who the master Gepettos are, unless he mimics the current narcissist and governs with his own Mount Blanc.

        Meanwhile, they still loathe Ted, which should tell most true conservatives all you need to know. Nice to see Mark Levin onboard.

    • Kent Jenkins

      Bingo

  • Shoeless Joe

    The Establishment of the party is starting to conclude that Trump is a winner .
    They don’t want him, but he is slapping the snot out of them.

    • tops116 ✓Quipper

      “The Establishment of the party is starting to conclude that Trump is a winner”

      Past picks by the Establishment: McCain and Romney. Of course, it makes perfect sense. Trump is a bigger liberal than McCain and Romney put together, so no wonder the Establishment is into him now.

      • DeplorableMessMan ✔ JesseMessy

        Was Sarah Palin ever part of this “establishment” you speak of? How about Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and Mark Levin and Glenn Beck, are they all “GOPe”? NO??? Well, they’re the ones who’ve incited IndyCons everywhere to get onto the Trump bandwagon, so don’t try to scapegoat the establishment boogeyman, since it makes y’all look certifiable.

        • Squirrel! SMOD Conductor

          How have they incited this? Being an “IndyCon,” as you put it, and that I listen to, well, every one of these talking heads, I’m interested in your take. Thanks in advance.

          • DeplorableMessMan ✔ JesseMessy

            …Then you know damn well that those talking heads all attack the “estaaaa-whaaaaa-blishment” for somehow failing to support both Trump and Cruz. I said (they say) BOTH Trump & Cruz. Help me out, Squirrel: Aren’t Trump & Cruz opponents to each other…And doesn’t only one get to be the nominee? Because if so, then why do these talking heads speak as if Trump & Cruz were somehow a 2-headed Siamese-twin whom they want as the “one” nominee? Why is that, IndyCon? It’s because these “men once thought to be wise” now can’t bring themselves to “stop falling for Trump” long enough to realize that it’s TRUMPMANIA (which they keep feeding) that’s held Cruz down. Especially now that Palin (whom these talking-heads long used as a CLUB with which to bash & demonize the GOPe-boogeyman) has sold out to #TrumpTheChump & his fakery, how dare these talking-heads continue to blame anyone but themselves for what’s happened? It’s rotten character which makes them shift the blame like this, PuritaniCon Orthodoxy has rotted their souls, THEY helped Obama win twice by talking millions of listeners into staying-home-or-voting-333rd-party in 2008 & 2012…and I’m done with your Orthodoxy.

        • drw

          Glenn Beck? The last I heard his guy is Cruz. But, he’s a flaming lunatic. At least, that is, according to most of the donny’s supporters I’ve read lately.

          • Cärlös Dängër ✓certifiable

            GB is indeed off his nut.

          • drw

            I don’t spend a whole lot of my time listening to the “pundits” so I haven’t any basis to argue that point. I will say however, that in the interview he did with O’Reilly the other day his assessment of the donny was spot on.

          • Revanche

            Beck is a fanatical Cruz supporter. He is behind one of the Cruz superpacs.

          • drw

            Glenn Beck, fanatical or not, is very big on the Constitution isn’t he? Regardless how crazy one considers him he’s never indicated support for usurping our liberties or taking away anyone’s right to serve their own God in their own way, has he? Whatever he’s done he’s never once taken a position on any subject simply because it would increase his own celebrity or wealth. No matter how completely whacked-out one believes him to be he has one thing that very few politicians, the donny least of all, can claim and that’s integrity.

          • Revanche

            “integrity” ?
            Like disseminating a fake tweet.
            Face it, Beck flipped his lid some time ago.

          • drw

            He disseminated a fake tweet and he hasn’t been committed to belvue yet? What’s this country coming to?
            All I know is that he has a much deeper concern for the welfare of this country than nearly everybody currently running for or serving in any public office. That’s based on my, admittedly, limited exposure to him, his show(s), and/or his website or network. What I’ve seen suggests a love of this country and a profound respect for her Constitution and citizenry. That carries some weight with me especially when I see so many running for or serving in public office that don’t.
            As I stated elsewhere, I have no basis to determine his state of mental health beyond what I’ve seen and what I’ve seen disagrees with your assessment.

          • Revanche

            The point was ‘integrity’, remember?
            He knew it was fake when he put it out there, or he was very careful not to notice. A child would have recognized the fakeness immediately.

          • drw

            Actually the point was the entirety of my post that you chose to ignore in order to focus on the one single word you disagreed with.

          • Revanche

            Would you like me to focus on the rest of your wholly speculative comment?
            I focused on integrity, because all the rest of your claims are entirely dependent on that one claim.

          • drw

            Please feel free to focus on whatever you’d like. My comment isn’t speculation, it’s opinion based on observation. My opinion of his integrity is based on my never having observed him stray from any of those particular characteristics, not even a little bit. You claim he’s flawed. Fine, name one mortal who isn’t and perhaps I’ll give more weight to his shortcomings than the strengths I’ve observed that I personally consider not only rare but, hold in very high regard.

            If you read over my posts I believe you’ll find that I haven’t even speculated about Mr. Beck’s mental health. Nor did I call into question your opinion that he’s “flipped his lid”. I have no basis on which to confirm or deny but, beyond that I simply don’t care, who among us hasn’t at one time or another?

          • camp50

            It is also hard to believe that Trump did not vote for Obama given his stated support for The Stimulus, TARP, Amnesty, “Choice” etc.

          • Donald-Now 3x as Deplorable

            Read The Blaze today or listen to his show. The Blaze was absolutely GIDDY publishing several Trump bashing, Cruz is the “second coming” articles, and more often than not, that’s pretty much all The Blaze does anymore, when not running People Magazine fluff pieces on celebrities anymore. He has lost ALL credibility with me and a lot of others who used to respect him.

        • Revanche

          Glen Beck is firmly in Cruz’s camp. In fact, he helped start a Cruz superpac. He’s out campaigning with Cruz as we speak.

          • DeplorableMessMan ✔ JesseMessy

            Okay, then I stand corrected about Glenn Beck and ONLY Glenn Beck.

          • Revanche

            Okay.

        • Renny

          Levin? Are you kidding me? He’s been shouting from the rooftops whenever Trump says something stupid. Which is too often.

          • DeplorableMessMan ✔ JesseMessy

            ..He’s also been blaming the “estaaaaa-whaaaaa-blishment” for Cruz’s having struggled to stay ahead of Trump, whereas TRUMP’s why Cruz has to overcome Trump. Levin is also a pathological liar who smeared & cyberbullied Reince Priebus for saying it’ll be tough to hold the Senate in 2016. (Well OF COURSE it’ll be tough EVERY ELECTION is tough running against charismatic Dems SO WTF is Levin’s problem with Chairman Priebus saying so?) Levin’s just too lazy to place the blame (for Cruz’s overshadowing by Trump) on the very PuritaniCons in HIS audience who are convinced that DT is the one-&-only “AntiEstabber”. Since Levin can’t be HONEST about who’s holding Cruz back, he might as well be a DT-supporter. (In fact, I haven’t listened to him lately…Does he actually speak like Rush & Hannity in attacking the GOPe-boogeyman for trying to hold back BOTH Trump & Cruz…As if these talk-radio-titans think Cruz & TC aren’t competitors but actually 2 heads of the same Siamese-twin that’ll get nominated? …Y’see, this stupidity is why it’s been PuritaniCons all along (NOT some phantom “establishment”) that’ve blown elections by deliberately demoralizing their conserve-listeners so as to help the likes of Obama win by default. Levin & the IndyCons created the Trump-monster, one way or the other.

        • Luv2GoFly

          Do you actually listen to these guys? Beck can’t stand Trump, and Levin has been slamming him pretty hard lately. Both Levin and Beck have really been pumping up Cruz. Hannity and Limbaugh are not on the Trump bandwagon by any means. Perhaps you ought to actually listen to these guys before you start throwing out falsehoods. Just because they haven’t been throwing him down from the beginning doesn’t mean they are advocating for him. Quite the contrary.

          • DeplorableMessMan ✔ JesseMessy

            Bull$not–Hannity & Trump in fact keep “defending” BOTH Trump & Cruz from the “estaaa-waaahh-blishment”…as if they’re too dense to get it that DT & Cruz are OPPONENTS. Yep, they’re still at it with the absurdity that Cruz can’t wait to be selected as DT’s VP-running-mate, as if Cruz had been a career AntiEstab-guy who began running from Prez 3 months before #TrumpTheChump “crammed of Cruz talking points” one time and then kicked off his campaign the next day. When last I checked, all these people were CERTIFIABLY still talking as if Trump & Cruz were a 2-head Siamese-twin. THAT, my friend, is as bad as Sarah Palin & family trashing the real-deal Cruz while endorsing the phony Trump. (Actually, what Rush & Hannity do is WORSE, since they’re the ones with the millions of listeners falling for their certifiable $#1t.

        • tessaprn

          Wrong. Establishment is the old farts that have been in Congress for decades.

          • DeplorableMessMan ✔ JesseMessy

            What a surprise, PuritaniCon, that you miss my point: IT ISN’T the estaaaaa-whaaaaa-blishment who foisted Trump on us as if he were some “knight-in-shining-armor-to-the-rescue-of-us-from-rinos…It was the IndyCONs (YOU) who did that, and now you people think you can shift blame to your little GOPe-strawman. I don’t let y’all get away with it.

  • marcus tullius cicero

    …Urine Hack guy is a dinosaur and a RINO!

    • Magnifico

      A DINO…I like it

  • Hannah Abbott

    Hatch is a 80 year old loser whose existence proves the need for term limits . . .

    • El Guapo

      Hatch is well past his use by date. He first ran in the 70s against a guy that had been there for years. Said new blood was needed. New blood definitely needed in that seat now. I have voted for him in the past. Would never vote for him again. Term limits needed indeed. I don’t know how that will ever happen however. It is obvious that EVERY individual elected and sent to Washington becomes immediately interested in one thing only. Their own re-election.

      RE-ELECT NOBODY!!!!

      This country has lost its ever loving mind. Trump and Clinton? Really? We have been nearly destroyed by 8 years of a president who ignores the Constitution and the rule of law. Trump and Clinton have indicated that they will do what ever they want — Constitution and Rule of Law be damned. Why would anyone want the next president to have the same attitude toward governing as Obama? I don’t think we have learned anything at all from the last 7 years

      • camp50

        Actually, we have learned how disengaged the electorate is from the world around it.

  • coolercoleman

    Now there’s an endorsement that could sabotage Trump’s campaign.

    • conservative2012

      One can only hope.

      • Doc Farmer✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

        What, are you kidding? I’ve still got a whole stack of unused toupee jokes!!!

        • conservative2012

          Get them jokes out there while you can.The veal dinners are ready, and the waitstaff ready to serve them Don’t forget to tip

        • The Dragon

          Don’t wig out on us

    • Maxx

      If there is anything that could blunt things, I wish it was this breaking story.

      http://www.redstate.com/2016/01/21/trump-campaign-trying-intimidate-mark-levin/

  • drw

    It depends upon what the definition of “win”, is.

    • Michael the white suburbanite

      a “win” means Orrin gets to keep his seat

    • genes ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

      Orin, like Hil and Bern, needs those depends.

      • drw

        They’re included in their obamacare package as well as every restroom in the capitol building I’m sure…

  • Frustrated Teacher

    Is the establishment GOP wants to defeat Trump, there may be no better way than convincing voters that he is ‘mainstream GOP’….THAT is who conservatives are sick of. But then they won’t buy it from a GOP fossil like Hatch.

  • http://www.saltusa.com/ #ExGOP #NeverTrumpOrHillary

    This isn’t hard.

  • Doc Farmer✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

    Naw, he’s just in Congress, and they REALLY hate Cruz in there. Even more than Trump…

    • tops116 ✓Quipper

      And they’re bailing on Rubio because they figure Team Jeb really damaged his chances with that personal vendetta.

  • tops116 ✓Quipper

    “”I think we’ll lose if [Cruz] is our nominee,” said Orrin Hatch, who added that he’s “come around” on Trump.”

    http://2ytbf92vre5w2ny7tu3f25u3.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/carter.jpg

    https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/689465811107377159

    https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/689912362539741184

    Because nothing says electoral victory and crossover appeal like massive unfavorable ratings.

  • ErskinFlibberJabber ✓Stupified

    Hatch has been terrible for years. We tried to oust him a few years ago,but he survived somehow.

    • nc ✓s & balances

      Like McCain, these guys somehow manage to hold on long past their “best by” dates.

      • camp50

        Power corrupts absolutely.

    • Robin Harrison

      With an endorsement from Sarah Palin. There are no accidents….

  • Eric

    I’m sorry all. I’ve been trying for years to vote this guy out, but not enough of my neighbors agree with me. Cruz was already my candidate, but if Hatch is against him, that cements me even more in Teddy’s camp.

  • FramersForCruz

    The RINO’s and GOPe after 7-8 months of bashing Trump have now pulled a Mittens Romney like flip-flop.

  • Kate

    I cannot WAIT to hear the Trumpkin’s logic on this one.

    Rubio endorsed by Tea Party favorites like Trey Gowdy and Mia Love = RINO.
    Trump supported by a guy the Tea Party loathes, Orrin Hatch = TOTALLY CONSERVATIVE.

    I don’t get people sometimes.

    • Squirrel! SMOD Conductor

      They don’t care about conservatism. It’s a moot point when it comes to people who support Trump.

      • Kate

        They just want their very own version of Obama- someone with celebrity credentials, who berates his opponents, is willing to circumvent the laws, and picks and chooses winners based on what HE wants. Principles be damned.

        It’s both disgusting and terrifying. God help us if it comes down to Trump vs. Hillary.

        • El Guapo

          I agree with you Kate. We have learned nothing from the train wreck that is Obama. Both Trump and Clinton have indicated that they will govern in the Obama style and you described that style very nicely. I don’t know how anyone fails to see this and supports either one of them.

    • camp50

      Far too many are attracted to the latest shiny object.

  • drw

    Ya know, I stopped listening to Rush since he started spending all of his time either talking about his Icrap or defending the donny. I’ve lost all respect for Hannity since he became such a donny boy, he’s always so excited when they get a chance to talk. Fox News has lost scads of credibility and half of the supposed Republicans on blogs or that I know personally have fallen head over heals for the great pretender’s spiel. NOBODY, not one person can tell me what the donny has planned or would do on any issue beyond immigration. Less than 24 hours after he said that we need to defund PP, based on the videos, he was on Hannity backpedaling like a confused gerbil and Hannity gave him a pass. He’s never once, that I know of, even hinted that he thinks the government is too big. His only problem with the federal government is that they don’t know how to make deals/that he’s not the one in charge. NOBODY knows or even has a hint what he’ll do with the SCOTUS nominations surely to come up in the next Presidential term, not one person and this is a big fucking deal if there ever was one. The list goes on and on.

    The great irony in all of this is the fact that the donny gained his popularity because he had no establishment ties and the establishment couldn’t stand him. Well, guess what. He could at least have the decency to follow suit with all of the other politicians and wait until he’s been elected before crawling into bed with what was, until a week or so ago, the supposed enemy. And still they believe.

    The one thing I thought I could always count on was that at least half of the country could be relied upon to maintain their sanity, to actually use their few remaining brain cells to consider what consequences their actions would bring. Seems I was wrong.

    • Squirrel! SMOD Conductor

      I would also like to add DJT only mentions the constitution when it comes to the natural born citizen issue.

      • drw

        There are too many questions supposedly, or at least historically, important to conservative voters to list. It seems they no longer care.

    • nc ✓s & balances

      Rush is not “defending” Trump, or “propping him up” as someone accused him of yesterday (somewhere else). Rush is the “Mayor of Realville” and is trying to understand, in a clear eyed way, why so many people are flocking to him. I haven’t had a chance to listen to him today yet (I’m a 24/7 member), but yesterday’s show was outstanding on this topic:
      —————–
      The Republican Party, for whatever reason, refuses to be an opposition party. The Republican Party refuses to stand up and even make the pretense of trying to stop Barack Obama. Out in the real world, Barack Obama and the Democrat Party are seen as destroying this country. And not just domestically; they’re destroying the military; they’re destroying foreign policy. They are nuking up Iran. They are behaving in ways that befriending our enemies and alienating our friends and allies — and people are at their wits’ end.

      They have voted, in large numbers, expecting there to be some opposition and push-back to this. That’s the standard, normal procedure in politics. Politics is at least two competing organizations, and the winning organization always faces opposition by the losing organization ’cause it wants to get back in power. Well, the people that vote for Republicans are not seeing any opposition. They’re not seeing any push-back. In fact, it’s even worse than that. They’re seeing the Republican Party agree with the Democrats on something as key as open borders.

      f there’s one thing that people in this country think is responsible for the direct hit on the economy and their future and their kids’ future, it’s illegal immigration and the willing importation of unskilled, uneducated, totally dependent people who are gonna be automatic voters for the Democrats, which means this never ends. So they’re expecting the Republican Party to stand up and say, “No!” They’re expecting the Republican Party to stand up and try to stop it. They’re not seeing it. They’re at their wits’ end.

      They have voted.

      They’ve donated.

      They’ve given money when they could afford it.

      They have campaigned. They’ve gotten out the vote. They have shown up as the Tea Party. They’ve gone to town meetings. They have gone neighborhood door-to-door. They’ve manned the phone banks. They’ve done all of that. They’ve got nothing to show for it except maybe they lose their job, maybe they’re cut back to 30 hours, maybe their neighborhood Walmart’s closing down. Everything’s caving in on them! They’re the ones playing by the rules. They’re not cultural perverts. They’re not people breaking the law.

      They’re doing everything they can to play by the rules, and they don’t think anybody is standing up for ’em or representing them.

      They feel powerless.

      They feel like they’re being targeted.

      They think they’re being blamed for whatever’s gone wrong in this country that Obama and the Democrats don’t like. And they’re not to blame. They represent what’s great about this country, and they’re being winnowed out. Well, it only stands to reason that when somebody comes along and lets them know that he agrees with that — and these days are over and we’re gonna make this country great again and you’re gonna help me do it — and we’re together gonna make this country great, I guarantee you that is a magnet that no Republican, conservative, expert, think tank, whatever, can stop.

      It’s not hard to understand this at all. Except the Republican Party I don’t think understands what is animating and motivating their base supporters. They’re not worried about the Republican Party future. They’re not worried about the image of the Republican Party, not worried about the media liking them. They’re not worried about money being donated. They’re worried about their country. They oppose, stridently, the modern-day Democrat Party. They oppose the policies of Barack Hussein O. It isn’t personal.

      They just don’t like what’s happening. They don’t like the out-of-control spending. They don’t like $4.5 trillion printed and given to Wall Street, and here’s Wall Street squandering it now! They don’t like any of this. Somebody comes along and says, “I don’t either. You know what? We’re gonna work together, and we’re gonna make this country great again. We got stupid people running it.” Well, Trump’s not criticizing Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives. He’s criticizing stupid people.

      He’s gonna be smarter. He gonna make great deals. He’s gonna make the country great again. People want to believe that. This is not hard to understand at all, if you ask me. Now, my question is — and it really is not all that important. Does Trump know he’s doing this or did he just… Is it just who he is and he just happened to arrive on the scene at the moment? Is this some sort of grand strategy that he’s working out, or did he just fall into this? I mean right person, right time, or is it strategic?
      —-Rush Limbaugh 1/20/16

      • drw

        I don’t/can’t listen to his show for any length of time anymore. I was never a committed listener but, always respected his view even if I didn’t agree with his assessment all of his subjects all of the time. Since the donny’s made such a splash and is the news of the day every day, every show has become all the donny all the time, including Rush’s. I know he claims to not be trying to defend or endorse the donny but, that ends up being the result of the stories he selects, the callers he talks to and the way he grills them to defend their own less than positive the donny related comments. You hear it differently and I might agree if I were to listen to all of every show. I don’t/can’t/won’t and this is my opinion.

        • nc ✓s & balances

          We’re all entitled to our opinions, but I posted this transcript from his broadcast because it’s hard to have an informed opinion if you don’t give him a fair listen.

          • drw

            Now you’re insinuating I’m being unfair, at least that’s how I read your comment. I’ve listened to enough in the past and recently to form what I consider a fair opinion. That I disagree with yours is perhaps unfortunate but, that doesn’t make my opinion any less valid.

          • nc ✓s & balances

            Sorry if you took it that way. It’s not what I meant.

          • drw

            I had to look at it several times because it does seem out of character. Still, how is one supposed to read “if you don’t give him a fair listen”?

          • nc ✓s & balances

            “I don’t/can’t listen to his show for any length of time anymore.” That’s what I was responding to. I mean no disrespect or insult, truly.

          • drw

            A misunderstanding, my apologies. I used to listen a lot and would still if it weren’t for those reasons I listed. I have logged many, many hours listening to Rush and enjoying it whether I agreed with him or not.

          • nc ✓s & balances

            We’re good, friend.

      • Donald-Now 3x as Deplorable

        An absolutely brilliant, well thought out AND articulated point. You are doing your usual brilliant point making, but today, you are white hot on point. Keep up the great work my friend.

        • nc ✓s & balances

          It’s not me, it’s all Rush. He’s the best.

          • Donald-Now 3x as Deplorable

            ALL your comments, not just this one, and yes, Rush is right.

          • nc ✓s & balances

            *blush* thanks, friend

  • Dan Abbett

    Hatch hasn’t “come around” to anything. He is just doing his part to vilify Sen. Cruz. I think the 64 dollar question was stated above. “Maybe Donald Trump’s not as anti-establishment as some people think.” I’d bet the whole $64.00 that he is as establishment as they come. Maybe not conventional but definitely, an establishmentarian.

    • Kate

      Trump is THE definition of establishment:

      * Trust Fund baby (nothing wrong with that, but he’s not the “self-made man” his sycophants make him out to be)
      * BFFs with the Clintons
      * Brags about buying politicians
      * Supports eminent domain and universal healthcare (big-govt positions)
      * Threatens to sue everyone and anything
      * Supports amnesty for illegals (yes, he does…read the coverage on that) because he needs the cheap labor for his hotel properties

      People who think he’s an “outsider” are ignorant. The man has been funding campaigns and buying favors for decades!

  • grais

    They don’t give a flying fuck about this country.

  • idalily

    Because we did SO well with that winner, Romney.

  • FramersForCruz

    Cruz wants to stop the DC cartels and their crony capitalist ways. THAT is why NOBODY in DC likes him. IT is also the REASON he got elected to the Senate and he is one of a few that ACTUALLY did what he said he WOULD DO after getting elected.

    The stupid party would rather lose and maintain the status quo then stand firm and lead.

    • tverle

      “The stupid party would rather lose and maintain the status quo then stand firm and lead.”

      Always!

  • Right4 Rebel

    The old guard R’s are scared to death of Cruz.
    Now they are embracing Trump.

  • Donald-Now 3x as Deplorable

    I don’t support Cruz or Trump, and I KNOW I’m going to catch several million kinds of hell for asking this BUT, isn’t defeating Shrillary the ABSOLUTE, NUMBER ONE THING, the most IMPORTANT ISSUE in this election? With all the infighting between Trump backers and Cruz backers tearing the party apart, does anybody else believe this argument HANDS Shrillary the election? Because if Trump gets the nod, are Cruz supporters going to stay home and not vote? Conversely If Cruz gets the nod, will Trump voters stay home? From the comments on Twitchy, it looks like 40% Trump, 40% Cruz and 20% somebody else. Please tell me if I’m wrong and why.

    • nc ✓s & balances

      Nobody – NOBODY – can stay home. No hissy fits allowed. If Hillary or any Dem gets elected this country is finished, we have no more chances left. Fight like hell in the primaries for the candidate of your choice (I happen to like Cruz), but when the final selection is made, we MUST UNITE!

      With an eye to this in November, I really hope the candidates don’t get too dirty, that really is unproductive all around. I am hoping after Iowa and NH a good many will drop out and coalesce around the top two or three.

      • Donald-Now 3x as Deplorable

        Thank you for an excellent answer. That’s EXACTLY my point. EVERYBODY must suck it up and vote for the GOP nominee or America is completely F**KED. I’ve been a Carson guy since BEFORE he decided to run, and it looks like he won’t get the nomination, but you can bet your ASS, I’m going to vote for Cruz, Trump, or even Jeb (GOD FORFEND) but I WILL NOT let Shrillary win the presidency because I stayed home and COULDN’T hold my damn nose and vote for somebody other than Dr. Carson.

        • nc ✓s & balances

          We’re pretty experienced at nose-holding, aren’t we? And we’ve done it for far less stakes than this. I’m with you, buddy.

  • Revanche

    I wonder, does it occur to anyone here that Hatch’s words ‘we’ll lose with Cruz’ just might really be referring to the general election, and not the GOPe’s preferences?

  • Revanche

    I’ll start believing what comes out of the mouths of RINO’s when the sun starts rising in the west.
    Everything they say is for effect. And they ‘know’ how these statements will be perceived.
    They even dug Dole out of mothballs for this purpose.

  • Renny

    As a Cruz supporter thanks, Orrin. Guess you see in Trump someone you can ‘work’ with.

  • smartone

    Cruz can’t win. Too many negatives.
    TRUMP2016.
    WIN!!!

    • drw

      Cognitive dissonance much?

    • Luv2GoFly

      Yeah, seems like there were a lot of remarks like that when Cruz was running for Senate…couldn’t win, too many negative, no name recognition…and now we have a Senator Cruz.

      “Too many negatives” oh, because Trump doesn’t have any negatives whatsoever…

  • Meowbius

    It’s high time to stop petty bickering. Uniting Republicans is like to herd cats, and it cost us twice dearly. We should know better. We should do better.

    • Donald-Now 3x as Deplorable

      Exactly. It doesn’t matter if you are a Cruz supporter, a Trump supporter or (God forbid) a Jeb supporter. No matter who eventually gets the nomination, republicans and conservatives MUST get off their asses and VOTE, even if it’s not their guy or girl. The MOST important thing is defeating Shrillary in November, NOT staying home sucking your thumb in a fetal position because the nominee isn’t your first (or second) choice.

  • Christa Siobhan Cartwright

    Could someone fetch Orrin his metamucil? I think he’s backed up clear to his head.

  • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

    So every establishment career politician is rallying around Trump? That’s not exactly reassuring. Trump is getting establishment stink on him.

    • drw

      What’s really bad is how it’s mixing with the eau de progressive that he’s always worn…

  • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

    Bob Dole, Orrin Hatch all hoping that Trump will split the conservative vote with Cruz thinking that will help Jeb. Yes they are that obvious. Even if the conservatives blow up the recipient isn’t going to be Jeb Bush. But their meddling could slide Chris Christie into a better lane.

    I hope Sarah Palin is proud of herself she endorsed Hatch too.

  • FranklinWasRight

    Now the Establishment is trolling him right back :).

  • constitutionminded

    All we hear is what is good for the party. Well, Orrin, and the rest of you bootlickers, how about what is good for the American People for a change. Screw your precious party.

  • Jay

    now that the GOP establishment like Trump how many Trump supporters will fall away, cause if Dad thinks he’s cool he obviously isn’t anymore…

    • LimpingHenry

      Very few. They have made their choice and no information will change that. You have to understand that he is their leader and that they are followers.

  • Luv2GoFly

    Orrin Hatch..can’t stand the clown. Embarrassed that he is one of my Senators. Perfect poster child for term limits. If he is endorsing Trump, then that pretty much is yet another reason to vote Cruz. The establishment folks like Hatch fear Cruz – which is exactly why I love the guy.

    • LimpingHenry

      I liked Orrin Hatch before he evolved.

  • interestedobserver2

    You know, if the GOPe is really that worried about Trump and Cruz, they should have Mitch McConnell endorse Trump, and John McCain endorse Cruz. At that point BOTH would be unelectable.

  • Luv2GoFly

    Just yesterday, Trump was out stumping not only for ethanol subsidies, but INCREASING subsidies. And people seriously think Trump is conservative…

    Newsflash, folks – Cruz is the only candidate out there speaking out against the subsidies. That, my friends, is the true conservative position.

    • LimpingHenry

      Mr.Trump’s supporters aren’t that interested in what is the conservative position. Or in Donald Trumps position on just about anything. They are for him and that’s all that matters.

      • Elena0412

        Absolutely. America’s Peronistas. Trumpistas?

  • wharfrat

    The GOP is self destructing by attacking each other,Trump is saying what every American with half a brain is saying, they are fed up with Obama and his lies and they want real change,and he’ll bring it.

    • LimpingHenry

      Some of the things Mr. Trump is saying is being said by people with whole brains, but I agree that some would be said by people with half a brain.

  • forgetyoutooo

    Cruz will never get the votes needed to win, too many Republicans and Indies hate him. National Review just helped Trump get the nomination.

  • Elena0412

    Hopefully, he’ll be impeached. They don’t have the guts to do it to Obama, but Trump?

  • Elena0412

    Trumpets won’t care. They’re like the loser kids who want to blow up the school.

  • FranklinWasRight

    The establishment is using reverse psychology here. They think if they embrace Trump it will sink him. They’ve finally figured out that everyone hates them (the establishment, that is).

    Just like the smeared non establishment primary candidates as racist, they are willing to lie and say they support Trump, all in an effort to make him go away.