With the horrifying stories of women being raped in the streets of Egypt, it’s only natural to question how the very powerful religious culture plays a role. Author Joyce Carol Oates dared to venture into that territory today:

In a survey of Egyptian women by the United Nations Entity for Gender Equality and the Empowerment of Women, 99.3 percent of respondents claimed that they had been subjected to some form of sexual harassment.

She’s not exclusively impugning Islam with regard to rape, but rather suggesting that Islamic fundamentalism — the Muslim Brotherhood, in this case — might contribute to violence against women.

In fact, she is apparently not a fan of religion in general:

But the fact remains that in a theocratic society, religion has a dominant influence.

Oates’ musings didn’t sit well with the P.C. crowd, who lashed out:

https://twitter.com/zayfarer/status/353227609947119617

https://twitter.com/AgitPropPraxis/status/353235214656487424

Radical Islamist parties like the Muslim Brotherhood seek to govern through a theocracy. Oates may be wrong about a lot of things, but she’s on-target in suggesting that intertwining politics with religion can be dangerous — particularly if thuggish, misogynistic radicals are calling the shots.

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Update:

Iowahawk notes the double standards of those denouncing Oates:

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Tunisian Islamists demand Sharia and Islamic law because it’s “good for women”

  • b_truit

    Are you more worried about Islam blowing you up or a Christian? Would you rather travel to a Christian nation or an Islamist one? Islam is as Islam does. Own it.

    • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

      Well,be fair, there was a time not that long ago when there were good odds that if you heard a story on the news about a car bomb somewhere, it was a group of professedly Catholic Irishmen responsible. Fortunately, that was a short-lived aberration and IRA terrorism is no more.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        Do you think they were doing that because of religious ideology, or because a political schism happened to occur along religious lines?

        There were definitely religious wars between Catholics and other Christian groups. Those were often battles over freedom from Catholic totalitarian rule and then the fear that the Catholics were planning to restore their rule.

        But that is not the same at all as tracing violent jihad back to the actual Islamic texts. Those Christians were not fighting because their texts told them to. And they’re not fighting today.

        The differences between religions can be discovered by reading the texts.

      • The Penguin

        Raping of women. Holy war against all other religions. A little different I think.

      • Orwellian_Dilemma

        I don’t recall Christians in Boston cheering wildly in bars and giving candy to children, all the while arm in arm singing “Onward Christian Soldiers” when they heard such a bomb went off.

        I don’t recall thousands leaving mass in Chicago and rioting in support of the latest kneecapping in Belfast. . . .

      • J.N. Ashby

        Location. Location. Location.

      • J.N. Ashby

        Location. Location. Location.

      • coda alexander mars

        That is hardly a fair comparison. They weren’t at war with western civilization.

      • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

        I’m Catholic, and such behavior is obviously not acceptable.

        Where ever men are involved, you’ll find sin.

        God is perfect.

    • Parties for Garfield

      Actually, I’m primarily worried about getting shot by another American. Over ten thousand people in America were killed by a firearm a year. That’s more than three times the number of people killed in 9/11.

      • Garth Haycock

        And far fewer than people who died of cancer. What’s your point?

        • Parties for Garfield

          How come we’re not linking America’s crazy relationship with guns with this country’s predominant religion? Natural to inquire, as JCO put it.

          • Garth Haycock

            Perhaps it’s a natural inquiry for a gun-grabbing progressive to see a correlation between religion and gun deaths, but that isn’t the case for those who support both the 1st and 2nd Amendments.

            So I ask, where’s the link? Considering that Oates has no respect for religion, it’s not that difficult to figure out that she is incapable of being objective when she says something like that. And apparently, you’re not capable of objectivity either.

            But that’s okay, because now it’s my turn to not be objective. I would guess that most of the murders that were the result of guns were committed by people who do not follow the moral compass that religion can provide. In other words, those murderers are not affiliated with any religion, be it Christianity or whatever. So there isn’t any link as you suggest.

          • Parties for Garfield

            My whole point is that it’s NOT a “natural inquiry.” We pathologize crime in any other country as the result of their different religion or different culture but never for ourselves, because We Are the Norm. Similarly, you could apply that exact hypothesis about murders in America to Egypt. But you probably won’t.

          • V the K

            So, it’s invalid to consider whether endemic violence and disrespect for women are a product of the prevailing culture. Got it.

          • Parties for Garfield

            Of course not. But she didn’t mention culture in her initial tweet. She specifically singled out Islam. Rape IS tied to rape culture—it’s rampant in the U.S. and worldwide—and it’s not at all exclusive to any religion.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Rape Culture” is a discrete culture?

            How does that work in the real world? Um, it doesn’t.

            “Rape IS tied to rape culture—it’s rampant in the U.S. and worldwide—and it’s not at all exclusive to any religion.”

            How old are you? Rape is tied to amoral and immoral lawlessness. The “culture” of lawlessness. The best response is rule of law.

            But leftists hate that. Because rule of law means they must either give up on collectivism or fully document their theories on class. Leftists prefer lawfare and anarchy justified by supposed grievances.

          • Parties for Garfield

            We don’t tie rape culture in the U.S., whether it’s on college campuses or in the military, to the predominant religion. We didn’t tie the horrific rapes in India (where, for god’s sake, people are literally setting up tables in dark streets to confront rapists) to Hinduism. Sexism did not originate from a single religion. And Islamophobia does no favors to Muslim women.

          • DefCon99

            As a Christian, I believe there is much the Church has to apologize for still on how it treated women.

          • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

            What about Islam? Too afraid to criticize that?

          • DefCon99

            No, but that wasn’t my point.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “We don’t tie rape culture in the U.S., whether it’s on college campuses or in the military, to the predominant religion. ”

            You should, because rape went up when the predominant religion came under attack by the “counter culture” that today rules our nation.

            “We didn’t tie the horrific rapes in India (where, for god’s sake, people are literally setting up tables in dark streets to confront rapists) to Hinduism.”

            Facts matter. There is no harm in asking the question. And Islam has achieved cultural dominance in India too. If women endured in India what they endure in Egypt (and maybe they do), then it would be stupid and irresponsible not to investigate.

            What’s wrong with you? Do you enjoy having grievances rather than solutions? That way your collectivist mentality allows you to become part of the victim class while the actual victims are not even on the same continent as you?

            Do you think people should try to analyze and solve problems or not?

          • Catchance

            How about “honor” killings? This is peculiar to Muslim men, mostly Arab Muslim men. Here’s a recent one:

            http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/01/noor-basra-noor-sheza-pakistani-girls-murdered-honour-killing-dancing-rain-pictures_n_3527572.html

            That is but one of the “honor” killings that Muslim men feel they are entitled to do to their wives and children. They will often quote the Q’uran:

            Quran- 4:15 “If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four (reliable) witness from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them. Or Allah ordain for them some (other) way.”

            This is Sharia law.

          • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

            Set up a table in Detroit, DC or Chicago you’re asking to be mugged, shot or written up for having an unlicensed lemonade stand.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            You forgot that there are legitimate persecuted classes. Christians are the persecutors, always at fault.

            Anyone else is a victim, no matter what they do. Only “white” Christians are accountable for the ills of the world. And certain high profile “Uncle Tom” “black” conservatives too.

            This is what I learned from Professor 0’Bama.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            If the USA was a nation based on Christian totalitarian rule, and the gun statistics were radically different, then of course you can ask the question. You can ask the question now.

            Where’s your theory? What about black gun owners. Want to make it about race too?

            You mean why are law abiding gun owners often Christians? Because most of the law breaking gun users are not Christian.

            That’s not really the indictment of Christianity that you had hoped for.

          • The Penguin

            A religion that PROMOTES it, as compared to one that doesn’t. Not hard to understand.

          • Garth Haycock

            I will quote you:

            “How come we’re not linking America’s crazy relationship with guns with
            this country’s predominant religion? Natural to inquire, as JCO put it.”

            How is your point that it’s not a natural inquiry when you stated that it’s natural to inquire why “we’re not linking America’s crazy relationship with guns with this country’s predominant religion?” (Your words).

            You’re right, I won’t apply that exact hypothesis about murders in America to Egypt, because I don’t blame religion for murders. I do, however, blame people for murders. They choose to murder. Some choose to distort religion in order to justify committing murder, while most choose to simply murder.

            I blame the murderer. It seems that you blame religion. Why? Do you believe that people are incapable of choosing their own actions? That they are unwitting participants of an outside force?

          • Finrod Felagund

            Inconvenient fact for liberals that whine about gun violence in the United States: if you control for ethnicity, the United States and Canada have exactly the same rates of gun violence.

          • Spiny Norman

            Very liberal Democrat Bill Cosby once opined that there was something seriously wrong with urban black culture, and its violence, and was pilloried for it. Some things must never be discussed.

          • Spiny Norman

            Very liberal Democrat Bill Cosby once opined that there was something seriously wrong with urban black culture, and its violence, and was pilloried for it. Some things must never be discussed.

          • 96leroy

            He’s from the group that blames the gun for a death so I’m not surprised. It’s a form of mental illness where they’ve lost touch with reality.

          • 96leroy

            He’s from the group that blames the gun for a death so I’m not surprised. It’s a form of mental illness where they’ve lost touch with reality.

          • Spiny Norman

            “Society is to blame.” How many years – no, DECADES – have the Progs been telling us this? They never blame the individual for his decision to commit violence; it is always the thing that is to blame. As if a violent criminal would never be violent without a gun.

          • Michelle

            Progs don’t blame society, they blame the gun. The blame really, truly does belong to society, but for them to admit that means they’d actually have to take a long, hard look at themselves and the society they’ve created. They are incapable of doing that, so they blame the gun, the NRA, “gun nuts” etc. – anything and everything other than the society THEY have created.

          • Spiny Norman

            “Society is to blame.” How many years – no, DECADES – have the Progs been telling us this? They never blame the individual for his decision to commit violence; it is always the thing that is to blame. As if a violent criminal would never be violent without a gun.

          • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

            Christianity in this country is “pathologized” plenty by the secular left.

            Of course, liberals are too chicken to call out most Black congregations in the South.

            Make fun of Jews and the anti-defamation league will be all over you.

            Criticize Islam, and you’ve got secular liberals and humanists running over CAIR and Muslim groups to scream “islamophoba” and “racism”—-have you not read the responses to JCO?

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “How come we’re not linking America’s crazy relationship with guns with this country’s predominant religion? Natural to inquire, as JCO put it.”

            Because you have to have a plausible theory. Not just modern hit and run sound bites, like a troll or mainstream media reporter.

            Inquire all you want. I won’t call you a bigot for that. If you can’t even come up with a theory, well, people just won’t care much. Just like now.

          • The Penguin

            “Crazy relationship with guns”. I’m not religious. But I believe in the Constitution of the United States and the second amendment. You don’t? You’re free to leave any time you like.

          • J.N. Ashby

            Correlation =/= Causation

          • J.N. Ashby

            Correlation =/= Causation

          • Michelle

            Our lawmakers and the media have done a fine job on you.

      • ERMERGERD

        Like to point out, a lot of the firearm deaths are suicides.

      • ERMERGERD

        Like to point out, a lot of the firearm deaths are suicides.

      • V the K

        Actually, if you subtract the gun homicides from large cities like Chicago, Philadelphia, Detroit, Baltimore, Newark… where gun laws are quite Draconian… the USA has a very,very low rate of murder and gun violence.

        I know it’s very, very hard for your teeny liberal mind to wrap around, but guns don’t cause violence.

        • Parties for Garfield

          I live in a large city. Hence, it’s quite logical for me to worry about this.

          • bluewaternavy

            I’m from Montana but living in NYC. In Montana, where most-and I mean MOST- households have firearms, crime is quite low. Contrast that with NYC, where it’s difficult to get a firearm, the bad guys seem to have no problem getting and using them.

          • V the K

            Maybe because the NYC cops are too busy enforcing beverage size laws.

          • bluewaternavy

            Good point! Can’t have those large pop running around willy-nilly, someone could get hurt! 😉

          • objectivefactsmatter

            But your worry should inspire you to investigate the facts. Not sit around and repeat leftist fantasies.

          • Richard Jefferies

            Stay away from gangs and drugs and your chance of being killed is exponentially lower. Stop voting for democrats in big cities and instead demand that gangs be dealt with, and your cities will be safer.

          • Michelle

            I also live in a large city – indeed the second largest in the nation, Los Angeles. I don’t go around fearing for my life. I’m smart enough to stay away from the gang infested areas, very well known for being the Liberal strongholds around here. I live in a middle-class Republican area of LA county, also listed as one of the safest places in the country to live. Stop blaming your fear on living in a large city and start placing blame where it belongs.

      • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

        You realize that most gun deaths occur in places with strict gun control laws? Chicago and Detroit by themselves rival gun deaths in whole conservative states. You also realize that suicide and suspects shot by police are included in gun deaths also?

      • objectivefactsmatter

        That’s not an answer. We’re discussing the effects of religion on behavior. Care to comment on that?

        Jihadis prefer bombs over guns, if that is really something that makes you happy.

      • coda alexander mars

        How many of those 10,000 were suicides?

      • Clete Torres

        I suggest you lock yourself in your basement for the duration.

      • http://www.conservativefiction.com/blog/author-pages/ Jamie Wilson

        If you don’t want to be shot by another American, buy a gun and learn how to use it, and stay the heck away from thugs and the neighborhoods they control. Those two things will keep you reasonably safe.

      • 3seven77

        More Americans die of abortion than from guns. And it’s legal. Does that keep you up nights?

      • Mary Ann Miller

        Link for this statement, please.

      • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

        Most violence comes about from drugs and domestic abuse.

        If you don’t go looking for trouble, live in denial about an abusive relationship or walking around the big city at night alone, your chances of getting shot go down drastically.

  • Steve_J

    Doubt she has many defenders since she seems to have put herself on an island with some of the other addlepated tweets.

  • NRPax

    Oh look! Liberals are eating their own again.

    • John

      Yes, most enjoyable watching a Liberal circular firing squad

  • Finrod Felagund

    To liberals, facts are bigoted.

    • b_truit

      Well said

    • V the K

      True. When I read the responses, what I see are a bunch of libs terrified that their bubble of self-satisfied political correctness is at risk of being punctured by some, shall we say, inconvenient truths.

      • Parties for Garfield

        Funny that Oates was the one to backtrack from her “inconvenient truth” and adopt an anti-religion tone, then.

  • Garth Haycock

    Seems to me that she’s rather upset that all religion finds her sexually repulsive.

  • robcrawford2

    “Do you also think that mass gun violence in schools bears a relationship to Christianity?”

    What a load of BS. Around the world each year more school kids are killed by Muslims than by Christians.

    • Spiny Norman

      Let’s not forget: http://thereligionofpeace.com/

      As of 7/5/2013: 21,118 deadly Muslim terrorist attacks since 9/11/2001. That’s less than 12 years. How many “Christian” terrorist attacks have there been in that time period? Has there been even 1?

  • Guest

    She has a point.

    • Michelle

      Except for the part where she was asked if there was a relationship between “mass gun violence in schools” and Christianity, and she gave an answer of yes, it’s the fault of “Christian Crusade”

      • Canadian in USA

        I know. I was scared for a moment as I was about to agree with Joyce Carol Oates…then I read the rest of her tweets about Christianity and “all religions”.

        Um…Joyce…you obviously don’t know that “secular law” was derived from “Christian law”, so I don’t think you have to worry about the Christians.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          But I don’t get angry at her for asking about possible correlations. Funny how she had no concrete theories about Islam – how hard it is to find out the Mohamed explicitly encouraged rape? But she’s sure murderers in the West are inspired by the crusades.

          You know, those crusades where poor Muslims were victimized again. And again. Poor poor jihadis.

    • Parties for Garfield

      No, she doesn’t have the point. Islam in our eyes is the defining attribute of any Arab country, so it’s supposed to be the cause of every negative characteristic, ever. India’s rape problem is just as systemic and horrifying. Where are the Hindu-bashers?

      • kerrari1898

        Yes she does. The Quran explicitly justifies the rape of captured female slaves, a point justified openly and repeatedly by Muslim commentators throughout the Muslim world, including by Kuwaiti female activist Salwa Al-Mutairi, who said (based on conversations with clerics in Mecca) “There was no shame in it and it is not haram (forbidden) under Islamic Sharia law”

        • kerrari1898

          Incidentally, when Jack Straw said that the “Asian” rape gangs plaguing the UK were a problem specific to the Pakistani community, his comments were confirmed by a number of Muslim commentators. Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, for example, said of them: “The criminals feel they did no wrong. These girls to them are trash, asking to be wasted”

        • kerrari1898

          Incidentally, when Jack Straw said that the “Asian” rape gangs plaguing the UK were a problem specific to the Pakistani community, his comments were confirmed by a number of Muslim commentators. Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, for example, said of them: “The criminals feel they did no wrong. These girls to them are trash, asking to be wasted”

        • Parties for Garfield

          …..So does the bible. The bible is one of the most anti-women pieces of literature ever published. Christianity has a DIRE history when it comes to women’s rights.

          • R.C.

            example please.

          • Richard Jefferies

            Bollocks! Mary Magdalene, a woman, was the first person to see Jesus alive. Where in the Quran does it say “love your wife as Christ loved the Church and gave his life for her?” Where in the Quran can you find a story about Mohammed intervening to save an adulterer from stoning, or defending a prostitute, or telling the woman at the well who was the mistress of married men that her sins were forgiven and to go and sin no more?

          • The Penguin

            Well said.

          • kerrari1898

            Oh you poor, deluded, misinformed fool. The exact opposite is true: Historian Regine Pernoud: “It is an established fact, taken from simple evidence, that everywhere progress in free choice of a spouse accompanied progress in the spread of Christianity”

            Christiane Klapisch Zuber: “[The Church] intervened to dissuade cousins from marrying, also insisted (with increasing firmness from the late eleventh century on) on the need to obtain, in due and proper form, the consent of both spouses…This shift prompted a considerable revolution, at least in theory, by according to the woman a place equal to that of the man in the administration of the sacrament of marriage…This shift prompted a considerable revolution, at least in theory, by according to the woman a place equal to that of the man in the administration of the sacrament of marriage.”

            The rampant, ancient and global practice of female infancitide has been suppressed primarily by Christianity, first in Europe, then globally. In India, forced child marriages and widow burning were suppressed by Christians, the first girls’ schools in China’s long history were opened in the 19th century by missionaries. Christianity has a long history of promoting the most elementary of women’s rights wherever it’s spread.

        • Parties for Garfield

          You honestly can’t attack sexism in Islam without attacking sexism in Christianity.

          • bluewaternavy

            Are we talking about the same Islam here? You know, the one that was started in the seventh century-and still lives in it?

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “You honestly can’t attack sexism in Islam without attacking sexism in Christianity.”

            So back it up. Show how Jewish prophets (all Biblical prophets were Jewish) taught that rape was part of the compensation of any religious warrior, for all time.

            Please do. Or change the subject and try to make us think that preventing women from giving sermons is morally equal (more or less) to having the religion’s founder codify the legality of rape.

            Go for it.

          • The Penguin

            Is that right? Even if you what you say was true…which it isn’t, that would make the condoning and promotion of rape okay?

          • kerrari1898

            Yes, you ignorant tool. The Church has traditionally attacked the institution of child marriage. Islam has traditionally defended it. Missionaries have a history of setting up girls’ schools in areas where no such thing existed prior. Islamists blowing them up. The Bible is explicit in the equality of man and woman (and slave and free, Greek and Jew). The Quran regards the testimony of women as worth half that of a man.

          • sharinite

            I suppose you can equate a rabid dog to a tame dog on any subject.

          • The Penguin

            Why not? Are Christians mutilating their women because of “honor”? Stoning them and gang-raping them for being out in public without a male relative or husband with them? If this is justifiable to you, or you think it’s comparable to the way true Christians act, then you are seriously delusional and in need of medical help. Not kidding.

      • kerrari1898

        Yes she does. The Quran explicitly justifies the rape of captured female slaves, a point justified openly and repeatedly by Muslim commentators throughout the Muslim world, including by Kuwaiti female activist Salwa Al-Mutairi, who said (based on conversations with clerics in Mecca) “There was no shame in it and it is not haram (forbidden) under Islamic Sharia law”

      • objectivefactsmatter

        “No, she doesn’t have the point. Islam in our eyes is the defining attribute of any Arab country…”

        Maybe because Islam is fundamentally totalitarian?

        “…so it’s supposed to be the cause of every negative characteristic, ever. ”

        No. Not true. It just seems that way because people tend to talk about problems like rape and murder before looking for silly reasons to flatter people. “Gee, they do have gorgeous camels and tents. And the coffee is so awesome in Turkey.”

        You are in so far over your head. How does lying help anyone?

      • sharinite

        It is the mentality of culture that has yet to achieve a level of respect for women…we don’t hear about it in China because that information is not allowed to be public, but it occurs everywhere on the planet….again, look and study the culture! Here in America rape has to do with rage, hate and humiliation from the weak and criminal….it has nothing to do with sex anywhere.

  • Rachel S. Miller

    I feel kinda bad for Ms. Oates. I think she’s made some really stupid comments in the past, but the level of ignorance being leveled *at* her here is just sort of silly. These people do not want to think, so they call her a “bigot”.

    • grais

      A few of them are so knuckleheaded that they’re calling her statement ‘racist’.

      • Rachel S. Miller

        Hahaha, I will never understand how criticizing Islam-as-ideology is somehow ‘racist.’ I don’t think a lot of white people subscribe to Islam but not everyone who is Muslim is of one race and not everyone of one race is Muslim. To assume either, like many of the above tweets seem to, strikes me as, er, incredibly racist!

    • sharinite

      Everyone is entitled to dumb and/or stupid rantings…we hear it every hour of every day from the progressives aka democrats nee marxists, and no one complains about that. The truth is an awesome thing and often dismissed to achieve nefarious ends.

      • Rachel S. Miller

        I agree, everyone’s entitled to stupid comments (lord knows I have made my share of stupid comments hahaha), but when Oates says something that even scratches at the heart of the matter, people jump on her and call her a racist and a bigot in some faux outrage.

        I say they direct their anger at the people committing the brutal crimes that Oates is criticizing, but that’s just me.

        • sharinite

          Since the progressives took over much of what passes as “government” on every level in America…the one goal is to divide…what better way than to attack, lie, cheat and steal….they cannot understand why the truth or another opinion is to be so hated. If people wanted to understand Muslims and Islam, they would study the Koran…therein lies the way of life dictated by Allah….until people understand that, blame is placed on anyone who doesn’t agree!

    • sharinite

      Everyone is entitled to dumb and/or stupid rantings…we hear it every hour of every day from the progressives aka democrats nee marxists, and no one complains about that. The truth is an awesome thing and often dismissed to achieve nefarious ends.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      Exactly. No discourse. They don’t strive to edify. They strive to make their delusional beliefs dominant. They are the pawns of the thought police.

    • The Penguin

      I suppose a little empathy. But the fact is, sleep with dogs, you’re gonna get fleas. The amount of backlash she’s receiving from her just a bit more than anemic jab is a little much though. The added poke about Christianity makes her still “one of them”. I’ll play a tune on a very small violin for her.

      • Rachel S. Miller

        I don’t like her jabs at Christianity, either, but at least we know now that she’s not unwilling to criticize other religions, as well.

        Still pretty obnoxious, though :-T

  • fireandreamitchell

    While she’s right (this time) she still looks like E.T. in that picture.

    • Canadian in USA

      She was right…up until the point where she started the “Christian Crusade culture” rant. I’ll give her props for seeing the intellectual disconnect with Islam as a “religion of peace”, but that’s as far as that goes.

      Nevertheless, I also need to add that you’re also right…she *does* look like ET.

      • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

        She looks like she’s from the late 19th-early 20th Century period.. Jawamax 8<{D}

      • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

        She looks like she’s from the late 19th-early 20th Century period.. Jawamax 8<{D}

      • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

        As per the topic at hand: No comment. ‘Nuff said. Jawamax 8<{D}

      • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

        As per the topic at hand: No comment. ‘Nuff said. Jawamax 8<{D}

  • MrApple

    ‘rape culture’ indeed, just look at some of the horrific stories coming out from Egypt during the mass protests going on at the moment.

  • dan1davis

    Moral Cripple Fight!

  • tjack

    If that statistic is even right how does anyone get past 99.3%??? Even if I were appalled at what I though was bigotry the effing # is 99.3%. The margin of error is what -3/+.7? That’s the highest stat after death and taxes. It’s not even a consideration for that society to change if that # is correct. When a society is that depraved anyone can say anything about its citizens. 99.3% holy shiite.

  • tjack

    If that statistic is even right how does anyone get past 99.3%??? Even if I were appalled at what I though was bigotry the effing # is 99.3%. The margin of error is what -3/+.7? That’s the highest stat after death and taxes. It’s not even a consideration for that society to change if that # is correct. When a society is that depraved anyone can say anything about its citizens. 99.3% holy shiite.

  • Mary Lee

    If she had said the same thing about Christians, she would be hailed as a hero. I am very troubled by this strange need for liberals to defend Islam at all costs. Can they not see what’s happening?

    • R.C.

      They can see but wont acknowledge. That would be admitting they have been wrong all along.

    • Guest

      It’s because it’s wrong, so they think it’s great.

  • Mary Lee

    If she had said the same thing about Christians, she would be hailed as a hero. I am very troubled by this strange need for liberals to defend Islam at all costs. Can they not see what’s happening?

  • TJ

    Liberals treat apostates worse then Muslims. Even is she is not a really an apostate to all leftism just this one issue and not really at that. Some would want to have a book burning party with only her books because of the bigot label they gave her.

  • TJ

    Liberals treat apostates worse then Muslims. Even is she is not a really an apostate to all leftism just this one issue and not really at that. Some would want to have a book burning party with only her books because of the bigot label they gave her.

  • David

    Sad commentary that many women in this country refuse to acknowledge that muslims are rapists, torturers, and murderers.

  • David

    Sad commentary that many women in this country refuse to acknowledge that muslims are rapists, torturers, and murderers.

  • Zathras11 @B5

    I won’t defend her now because she is insane. But I will say that I love to see the left eat their own (even unfairly).

  • Txgirlinnh

    Females are treated like chattel by muslims. They have no respect for women and their so-called ‘holy book’ encourages this behavior. So I cannot believe I am about to say this but in this one instance Joyce Carol Oates was correct. I guess a broke clock…

  • Dane Reynolds

    They eat their own.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Oates is reaping what she has sown….lol

  • http://www.nleomf.org/officers/ FlatFoot

    ** yeesh **

    Is that/it/she still married to Popeye?

  • DefCon99

    Who the hell is this woman anyway that I should care what she says?

  • Banned_by_KBTX

    Blue on blue civil war over who is the bigger Commie. A bunch of Stalinists trying to snatch away each other’s tinfoil caps. Pass the popcorn.

  • Nana Taylor

    Dear Muslims if you don’t like the correlation made, then stop raping!

  • magnut

    99.3%. of course sexual aggression is in us all but what about that number? think about it

  • The Penguin

    Is it me? Or is this ridiculous? Defending this ideology is absolutely insane. Raping of women. Intolerance of any belief other than theirs. History of nothing but torturous and violent behavior. And women are defending it?

  • http://teapartyreaganconservative.blogspot.com/ TeaPartyReaganConservative

    quoted except from “My Name is Bosch Fawstin and I’m a Recovered Muslim”
    May 27, 2013

    “Islam means misogyny, anti-Semitism, homophobia, wife-beatings, beheadings, honor killings, pedophilia/“child marriages”, murdering infidels, etc. This is evil, and Islam sanctions every bit of it.

    The Western problem is not “Islamophobia”, but “Islamophilia”. It is this uncritical,
    uninformed, absolute defense of Islam by Western elites after 9/11 that I refer
    to as Islamgate.” unquote

    Liberal fascists and their allied Islamic Mulsim Fundamentalist friends, who pretend they are protecting Islam, via projectionism, as a religion of peace are truly delusional, as usual.

    The facts and truth, logic and reason all contradict everything they spew against people who speak out against the barbaric sexual sanctioned abuse against women in and of Islam’s religious world, let alone against all Free People of Western Civilization.

    Of course, these people would never admit they are wrong, because they are indoctrinated to believe otherwise, and no amount of facts, truth, logic, reason, will ever sway them otherwise. This is the power of indoctrination. Whether it’s socialist marxist, Islamist, or fascist nazism, it’s all the same.

    What else would one expect from such people, thus ours is not to appease and capitulate to them, ours is only to defeat them.

    • Raye09

      The main response to this is “well christians had crusades and the inquisition!”, that was 400+ years ago. Christianity has moved on, it’s no longer acceptable to kill another person because they do not share your beliefs, the crusades have been over. It ‘s hard to deny that an unusually high number of muslims are fanatics, violent fanatics with little to no respect for human life. Plus the reaction to islam parodies is just out of control. People can mock and insult any religion mercilessl except islam, lest they be labled “racist” and banned/blocked from websites.

  • Scorpion

    Can anyone on the so called tolerant left (LOL) refute what she said without calling her a racist or bigot? That is reason alone that you’ve lost your argument. Synthetic thinking at its finest.

  • descolada9

    Not a JCO fan, but the amount of ignorance and head in the sand-itis from her fellow leftists is just amazing. I’m sorry, but how many other religions practice honor killings besides Muslims? How many other religions give absolution for mass murder. There will be those who will try to point back hundreds or thousands of years in Christianity. Truth is, the Catholic Church’s greatest failure in its early days was being influenced by Rome. As for Islam, it was a step up from the prevalent nihilism that was the Arabian culture in the 7th century.

    • Stephen L. Hall

      Let us not cast aside that those Crusades for which Christianity is blamed was a response to repeated violent attacks by Muslims. It was not done in a void but in the face of Muslim invasions of Europe from both sides.

    • descolada9

      And today we have children in Nigeria burned alive by the Religion of Peace for daring to participate in Western style education.

  • The Penguin

    The woman. The mother. The most beautiful, kind, and nurturing of all things. Not appreciating and respecting this is an atrocity…period.

  • Basset_Hound

    And we pro-lifers are the ones who want to “put women into burkas”? REALLY?

  • Basset_Hound

    And we pro-lifers are the ones who want to “put women into burkas”? REALLY?

  • John Mullins

    Ahhhh, I love it. Liberals are eating themselves. It’s like watching a snake gnawing in its own tail.

  • John Mullins

    Ahhhh, I love it. Liberals are eating themselves. It’s like watching a snake gnawing in its own tail.

  • J.N. Ashby

    “Patriarchy!” Take the good with the bad there, Lauren. Name a matriarchal society that built a bridge.

  • J.N. Ashby

    “Patriarchy!” Take the good with the bad there, Lauren. Name a matriarchal society that built a bridge.

  • DrSamHerman

    Gee, Joycie….just figure that out all by your lonesome, eh?

    Next she’ll discover that water is wet and you shouldn’t touch that bubbling pot full of boiling water on the stove.

  • Spiny Norman

    Note to JCO’s liberal twitter critics: Islam is NOT a race.

    You may now return to your regularly-scheduled navel-gazing.

  • Kelgair

    Apparently someone didn’t get the updated memo on who was higher up on the aggrieved victim list.

  • Art_Fold

    So speaking the truth is now considered bigotry? Welcome to an Orwellian world.

  • seek456

    I’m usually not this superficial but that woman is just too ugly! Ugly inside and out.

  • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

    So the left’s war on womyn continues. Muslim Sharia Law subjugates women, but Joyce Carol Oats never even get’s to that list. The Muslim Brotherhood were trying to implement sharia law when they were overthrown.

    The left have decided to come down on the wrong side of history. Good for Joyce Carol Oats pointing out the obvious. Joyce Carol Oats, decided to stand with humanity, and not the twitter MOB.

  • Clete Torres

    I’m conflicted.

    JCO is a unapologetic leftist, yet somehow, and against all odds, she has actually made a modicum of sense with this tweet-blast.

    Her picture still creeps the bejezus out of me though.

    • http://musterion.typepad.com/blog/ Joe Dokes

      She’ll recant or go radio silent on the issue before it’s over.

    • Stephen L. Hall

      As they say, even a stopped clock is right twice a day . . . and that is certainly a face that could stop a clock.

      • Clete Torres

        Amen to that.

  • dogwonder

    Of course it’s the religion that mandates Muslim men can rape and enslave women they deem immoral, day after day the left display their ignorance and idiocy for all to see. Google the Essay the Rape of Europe to see what liberals tried to hide from the kaffir female.

  • http://www.conservativefiction.com/blog/author-pages/ Jamie Wilson

    This does explain some of the liberal idiocy in folks who seem otherwise intelligent; it must take an enormous amount of brainpower to justify two wholly disparate thoughts at the same time.

  • rambler

    See, if those women would just act like the property they are then there would be no reason for those men to teach them a lesson. Islam only values women as broodmares since they are important to supply the next generation of sharia thugs and suicide bombers.

  • Brett the Brit

    Wonder where she got that idea?

    Outrage as Muslim cleric likens women to ‘uncovered meat’.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/oct/26/australia.marktran

  • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

    Well, even after all Joyce Oates has done for the left, they repay her by giving her the Paula Deen treatment.

    I’m so glad I’m not a modern liberal.

  • Misanthrope

    Truly disturbing how far down the hole Leftists are that they savage one of their staunchest members for speaking the truth about Islam. Of course, her being a woman partly explains it – Leftists never gave misogynist Bill Maher flack like that.

  • Armaros

    These people are like a disease…..or bacteria…..crowd on someone with their slogans and BS….. They should all be sent to Egypt and experience the non effect of Islam on women