A 1998 audio clip of President Obama singing the praises of wealth redistribution is making the rounds today.

For conservatives, Obama’s attitude doesn’t come as much of a shock, but it’s certainly worth spotlighting. For liberals, the concept of wealth redistribution is one that should be embraced. That’s certainly the case for Slate “real reporter” Matt Yglesias, who argues that ownership is just a myth.

In Matt’s universe, your business? Your life? You didn’t build that. Your property? You didn’t own that. Ever. Matt’s credibility as a “real journalist”? He didn’t earn that.

Anti-statist Twitterers were more than happy to dish out the business to Yglesias. Hard:

https://twitter.com/jeffemanuel/status/248212259761963008

https://twitter.com/jeffemanuel/status/248212502205321219

https://twitter.com/jeffemanuel/status/248213434221617152

Oh, snap.

Yglesias is free to hand off all his worldly possessions to The State. Elizabeth Warren and Chairman Mao would be ever so pleased. Meanwhile, we’ll hold on to what’s rightfully ours. We rather enjoy our life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

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  • http://pinterest.com/j0s1395/ Josephine (D)

    The State has no right to take away individual ownership rights; once you take that away, you can take away all rights.

    • Smart Grunt

      That’s the whole point of their argument.

  • Militant Bibliophile

    Staggering. So he’s just outed himself as at least a Marxist, if not a Marxist-Lenninist, and he reports on economics? Good God, if Slate had any credibility, he just helped lose it for them

  • J.N. Ashby

    Communist…repulsive. I hate Communists more than anything in the entire world, including Nazis.

    Edit: Oh, I get it now. I looked him up. Degree in Philosophy. Writes economics articles for “The Slate.” Makes sense. He’s an idiot.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/Z5XK22SPFSB6LDTMBYXIK3FCCY yahoo-Z5XK22SPFSB6LDTMBYXIK3FCCY

      Next step down the ladder…, waiting tables

      • J.N. Ashby

        I’d respect a waiter more. They’re not being paid Capitalist dollars to spout horse shit about how great Communism is.

    • Derelictus

      Nazis only had 12 years to shine, Communists had 70 (well…I guess it’s still an ongoing project) and Americans still aren’t that aware of the true depths of their evil over the decades…

      • J.N. Ashby

        Especially when you consider that it’s not socially acceptable in any circle to be a Nazi anymore.

        • http://www.facebook.com/jmcenanly James McEnanly

          Not only that, but they’ve become stock villains. If a writer needs to establish that someone is a bad guy, or that a movement is up to no good, they generally lean heavily on Nazi imagery, be it on the African Savannah (the Lion King and Scar’s goosestepping hyenas) or a Galaxy far, far away (Star Wars).
          If fascism comes to America, it will wear Birkenstocks, not army boots

      • J.N. Ashby

        Especially when you consider that it’s not socially acceptable in any circle to be a Nazi anymore.

    • Phantom Stranger

      I am completely done with arguing with people like Yglesias (who has made monumentally retarded arguments before). I think it’s time to simply purge them from our society. Not as his Communist heroes would have done, which is what he deserves for attempting to push a murderous ideology. I think it is up to us Constitution-loving citizens to make life very difficult for folks like this by not buying anything they sell, not selling them anything they buy, and using our freedom of speech (while we still have any vestige of it left) to make known how we feel about those who would champion an idea that killed millions by flooding his mailbox,email,etc, with such comments.

      If we can marginalize the Nazi Party and the KKK we can marginalize these psychopaths too.

    • TiLiNi

      These contrarians are so predictable. They make illogical claims to baffle their audience and incite rage – just for their immature need for attention.

  • http://www.facebook.com/d0nna.ac0sta Donna Acosta

    @Colin Duffy — you, sir, are *the bomb.* If I were on Twitter, I’d follow you.

  • TRONRADIO

    I can’t believe all of the idiots that really embrace Obama. It is unreal; at least I wish it were so.

  • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

    “The concept of “redistribution” falsely implies that the existence of property is prior to the existence of the state. #mythofownership”

    Said a guy who is making payments on a futon in his studio apartment.

    • Cyborg0012

      I needed the smile your comment brought me, thanks, Phil.

      • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

        We’re all in this to the end. Can’t let the moonbats get us down!

  • grais

    He must enjoy being laughed at.

  • allenbarr

    so if all the wealth is redistributed everyone with the same amount those who have been leaning on goverment programs will spend all they have within a month. will we then do a new redistrabution of wealth again? do we continue the cycle. it mean redistribution would never ever stop.

    • Judith Lewis

      That’s the whole idea. Don’t you just love it?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

    DIBS ON MATTHEW YGLESIAS’ CAR!!!!

    • irishgirl91

      Do philosophy majors even bother to keep their drivers license?

      • weRbroke

        My MIL has a PhD in Philosophy. She can’t find her way out of a wet paper bag without instructions and someone from the government to hold her hand…and she has to have an ambulance on standby in case she gets a papercut. I read her dissertation and would have rather read War and Peace instead.

    • Judith Lewis

      You probably wouldn’t want it. It’s probably got a hole rusted through the front door so you can see the road go by and his shoes are most likely a size too small. That’s the democratic way. Ask Michelle.

      • TomJB

        50/50 its a Saab or Volvo

        • J.N. Ashby

          I’d bet it’s a GAZ-31029 Volga.

  • http://twitter.com/locomoconomo James Payne

    The fail is strong with this one. -toy-YODA

  • BeautifulAmerica

    Hey Matty, will you please share with us the names of the communist teachers who indoctrinated you in college? We’d like to out them…and you.
    FYI: In case you missed Constitution 101, Hillsdale College offers a course; check it out and get back to us after you spend a year in Cuba or North Korea. You’ll really get an education about communism there, my boy.

  • $30423294

    This is what happens when your grade school teacher tells you you can just make crap up.

    How in the world can a people say “this is our land” unless it is presupposed that “this is mine”.

    Seriously, this isn’t even *interesting* sophistry. It’s just babble.

    • Transfixus

      The good thing abut the internet is that anyone can express his/her opinion to a large audience. The bad thing about the internet is that anyone can express his/her opinion to a large audience.

    • Transfixus

      The good thing abut the internet is that anyone can express his/her opinion to a large audience. The bad thing about the internet is that anyone can express his/her opinion to a large audience.

  • Orangeone

    I want his vehicle redistributed to me. Mine is old and I bet he owns a nice ride! I’ll redistribute the remaining car loan to O’Blameveryonelse.

  • sgklaw3

    Ban property taxes, then property will be FREE!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VFJQ6CMWLBDDPV5QJWVTQQUYRI Robert

    Has Comrade Yglesias lost his mind?

  • stuckinIL4now

    Wow. Did Yglesias totally fail classes in western civilization and American history or did he just sleep through them? Property ownership is an issue for the ages.

    • irishgirl91

      They teach it differently now. Western civ. destroyed the “true” civilizations. American history is all about slave ownership. Period.

      • Derelictus

        Hey hey ho ho Western Civ’s gotta go. C’mon pay attention!

  • falcon7204

    Whatever black hole this guy fell out of on his way to this alternate universe, somebody shove him back in. And while you’re at it, cram the POTUS in there, too. Maybe that’ll heal the time-space continuum and get us all out of this Bizarro world we find ourselves living in.

    • blowngasket

      Wait, why can’t we bring some money over from that alternate universe?
      They do such a good job of managing resources they must have a surplus!

      • Joel0903

        It seems they’re only sending us their junk.

  • thetroll01

    So….who is this matty bloke, and why should we give a rat’s ass what it thinks, anyhow

    • Derelictus

      Apparently he’s a genius? Still trying to figure out in what capacity. Also he was attacked recently in D.C. by some, err… “diversity” street thug not too long ago. Oddly enough, he’s still a liberal, so the maxim didn’t apply to him. Maybe he wasn’t hit hard enough.

  • SideshowJon36

    On a certain level, you gotta admire his honesty. Most of the media believes the same, would never dare admit it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rafael.penariosribero Rafael Eduardo Peña-Rios Riber

    I’ll now respond with my favorite communist joke:
    guy 1: if you had 1’000.000 dollars, would you give half to the state?
    guy 2: yes
    g1: if you had 2 cars, would you give 1 to the state?
    g2: yes
    g1: if you had 2 chicken, would you give 1 to the state?
    g2: OH HELL NO
    g1: why not?
    g2: I have the chicken!

    • J.N. Ashby

      The Kommissar goes up to a farmer and asks him how his potato harvest is. The farmer says “Oh, comrade Kommissar, the harvest is so good this year that if we were to put all the potatoes in a pile, they’d reach the foot of God.” The Kommissar says, “Comrade, this is the U.S.S.R., there is no God.” The farmer says “That’s ok. There are no potatoes.” -Ronald Reagan

  • http://www.facebook.com/charles.seeburger Charles Seeburger

    Colin Duffy, you are my hero.

  • Opticonica

    He is correct with regards to land property…….try NOT paying your property taxes and see how fast you retain said ownership.

    • weRbroke

      A government created punishment for not paying YOUR FAIR SHARE. Too bad they can’t apply it to OTHER personal responsibility issues.

  • George Bentley

    I would argue that it was Private Property that gave birth
    to the state. Tribal or nomadic societies were not states but when men began to
    choose plots of land on which to plant and raise livestock when they could not
    just pick up and leave when a threat came then they had to bond in new ways to
    protect both their private interests and the public good. They formed a “State”

  • DG

    He doesn’t own that. His writing, that is. I guess it’s up for plagiarism.

  • DG

    He doesn’t own that. His writing, that is. I guess it’s up for plagiarism.

  • Owen007

    Oh look, another dipstick championing redistribution and yet not practicing what they preach. What a surprise…

  • Owen007

    Oh look, another dipstick championing redistribution and yet not practicing what they preach. What a surprise…

  • Johnny Blade

    clown shoes.. I hope your parents are demanding a refund on your ‘education’

  • Johnny Blade

    clown shoes.. I hope your parents are demanding a refund on your ‘education’

  • http://twitter.com/murgatr0id GTJessop

    I guess I am to believe all of his paystubs say “No Pay Due” on them? What a dolt…

  • TocksNedlog

    Big Brother say, “Without me ur nuthin’.”

  • Paul C.

    They would like us to believe that, and if we do this country will surely cease to exist.
    TEA

  • blowngasket

    “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as
    sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and
    public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. If ‘Thou
    shalt not covet” and ‘Thou shalt not steal’ were not commandments of
    Heaven, they must be made inviolable precepts in every society before it
    can be civilized or made free.”

    -John Adams, A Defense of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America, 1787.

  • http://twitter.com/robiss Javier Martin

    You cannot fix stupid!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/tom.bannigan.3 Tom Bannigan

      You can, actually. It’s just not legal.

  • http://www.facebook.com/brett.mcmicken Brett McMicken

    what can one expect from the mindset that government is god?

  • $23277462

    Let’s tally up the score:

    The Socialists on the national left are trashing the 1st amendment out of deference to murdering thugs.

    They’ve always been at war with your right of self-defense – the 2nd amendment

    Now they want to take on parts of the 4th:

    Amendment 4
    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    Now if the Leftists could just come up with a way of quartering troops in private home, they could claim a sweep in destroying the first 4 amenments of the Bill of Rights..

  • Shawn Smith

    Think Yglesias would mind if I came over to his apartment and liberated some of “the people’s” stuff?

    • Shawn Smith

      Ah hah hah! He responded! We’ll see where this goes.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WE7G3DRKFQY7R2CFCAW74AHGKU Paul

    The problems are manifold: That he feels fully comfortable in proposing Communism.
    That a fawning media will consider his point of view seriously and supportively.
    That a large minority of the populace will understand and agree with him.
    That another large minority won’t understand the implications and be lured to his ideas through greed.
    That a large and noisy minority is capable of hijacking the nation.
    Evil advances while good men stand idle.

  • http://www.twitter.com/brainofmatter Matt Richmond

    … has anyone here ever studied property rights? I feel like you should all look into it. Somehow I doubt his 140 character tweet packed the full level of nuance he would have brought to the conversation in a longer post. Property rights are a pivotal function of the state, absolutely one of the core aspects of what a government is supposed to do.

    Even libertarians agree on this. LIBERTARIANS! Please, read up on a topic before you speak about it.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/WE7G3DRKFQY7R2CFCAW74AHGKU Paul

      If his comments were made in the sense you propose, I would be less concern. After all, taxes on real property make the government the true owner of that property. Don’t agree? It’s a simple test really; don’t pay the taxes on your house and see who comes to evict you; he’s the real owner and he’s your local government.
      However, I don’t believe his comments are meant that way. It seems to me he’s saying that without government, there was no organization to arbitrate ownership claims, and therefore no one could make such a claim. This is demonstrably false. People have staked out their territories and held possessions long before a government showed up to bureaucratize matters.
      I think his comment goes further in that he implies the concept of ownership is part and parcel with government. That is, without government there is no ownership. Clearly absurd, but also sinister. It elevates government to god status, determining who owns what according to its will and whim. That is the essence of statism… totalitarianism.

      • http://www.twitter.com/brainofmatter Matt Richmond

        I really don’t think that he means it that way. The reason that I say that is because, regardless of how stupid many conservatives may think most liberals are, most people (conservative or liberal) are not total idiots. To claim that no one has ever claimed ownership and been able to establish that ownership through some mechanism other than the state would be patently ridiculous. He with the biggest knife and quickest reflexes could own quite a lot back in the day.

        There are extremists on both sides of the spectrum, but most liberals do not make statements nearly as stupid as everyone is trying to turn this one into. Without government the concept of property rights is an entirely different thing, and the act of enforcing those property rights is inherently redistributive relative to how it would be without a government (we don’t let the people with the biggest guns and most power just take your stuff because they feel like it, which they could do without a government enforcing these rights).

        I think his point, and the point of many scholars, is that this extends to capitalism and the economy, as well. Capitalism has a tendency to cluster and concentrate wealth/power. (“It takes money to make money.”) The idea that I think he is getting at is that, given that fact, the government should be continuing the same function as before: evening the playing field, not allowing the rich to stomp on the poor, etc. And one of the ways to do that (and clearly not something everyone agrees on) is redistributing that power/money. One of the government’s primary roles is to establish fair and equal property rights in a way that inherently redistributes power, something that nearly all reasonable people agree is why we NEED government. The concept of monetary redistribution in the face of a capitalist economic system with a tendency toward power concentration is really only an extension of that same idea.

        And for the record, no, that’s not communism. Wtf is with everyone and calling everything communism and socialism whenever they don’t like something?

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/WE7G3DRKFQY7R2CFCAW74AHGKU Paul

          Since all we have are his comments to work from; what he said leaves implications, intended or not. So we’ll just have to wait for him to clarify.
          Your assessment of Capitalism, that it “has a tendency to cluster and concentrate wealth/power” is only true if one believes wealth is finite. History clearly shows that wealth creation is not finite, and in a free market system with a government properly enforcing reasonable controls to prohibit abuse (note this does not include redistribution or picking winners/losers), wealth grows. It’s only when a burdensome government begins meddling in markets and taking control of assets that wealth tends toward the finite. This is because, by nature, governments are net consumers of wealth not generators. The larger they are, the more they engage, the less wealth is created. Take note of where and how wealth is created (GDP is an indicator), and you can’t escape the above correlation.
          Also, government entering markets and taking ownership interests in industry is socialism. As the intrusion into industry grows, governments cease seeing people as citizens but as subjects, and ultimately as “assets of the state”. This is totalitarianism, of which communism is one form.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/WE7G3DRKFQY7R2CFCAW74AHGKU Paul

          Since all we have are his comments to work from; what he said leaves implications, intended or not. So we’ll just have to wait for him to clarify.
          Your assessment of Capitalism, that it “has a tendency to cluster and concentrate wealth/power” is only true if one believes wealth is finite. History clearly shows that wealth creation is not finite, and in a free market system with a government properly enforcing reasonable controls to prohibit abuse (note this does not include redistribution or picking winners/losers), wealth grows. It’s only when a burdensome government begins meddling in markets and taking control of assets that wealth tends toward the finite. This is because, by nature, governments are net consumers of wealth not generators. The larger they are, the more they engage, the less wealth is created. Take note of where and how wealth is created (GDP is an indicator), and you can’t escape the above correlation.
          Also, government entering markets and taking ownership interests in industry is socialism. As the intrusion into industry grows, governments cease seeing people as citizens but as subjects, and ultimately as “assets of the state”. This is totalitarianism, of which communism is one form.

  • http://twitter.com/MoueLaMoue Moue La Moue (D)

    “The concept of “redistribution” falsely implies that the existence of property is prior to the existence of the state.” Said no Republican ever.

  • http://twitter.com/d_hershberger Doug Hershberger

    Okay Mr. Obama. But to make it “fair” we need to redistribute the poverty too, right? Every citizen of this country should start off from birth with a bank of money, just like in board games. Right? Great economic policy that would be. Mr. Obama, you have VERY obviously never PRODUCED anything. You’ve never shoveled dirt, nor delivered newspapers or pizzas.

    The moment I started WORKING for a living I realized how much I hate the people who don’t want to. I’ve been a temp, working in an office for a large credit card company in customer service, wearing a suit and tie. I’ve repaired VCRs, TVs, Computers, I HAVE shoveled dirt, I have delivered pizzas and newspapers. I had my first job when I was 15!!!!!!!!!! I mowed grass, I worked in a snack bar, installed cable TV outlets, and phone jacks, delivered furniture. I have climbed ladders, been on roof-tops in the wind, crawled under houses in puddles.

    I know how to work, I know how to sweat. What do you know Mr. Obama? Liberal classes in universities and “community organizing”. Those are not even tangible things. What job were you working on when you first got stiffed by a customer? What job were you working on when you got your first raise and then realized that the government will just take an EVEN LARGER portion of your money that YOU worked for??? I can make things. I was a cub scout, a boy scout. I can make a fire from stones and twigs, the GOVERNMENT didn’t help, not one person in city council, to the friggin president, to the UN, did anyone do that for me. The best thing the government did for me to make that fire was to STAY THE F&CK OUT OF THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!! I CAN MAKE THINGS, I HAVE VALUE!!!!

    If I go into the woods and pick berries and roots and god-forbid, catch more fish than someone else, I HAVE MORE VALUE than someone that did not do as well. I would help that person, but I don’t need a 3rd party coming in to say that I have to split it evenly. MY BODY AND MIND DID MORE WORK, THEREFORE CONSUMED MORE CALORIES, the natural world says that I need more of those resources.

    This planet is not here because of the government, anymore than my choice to pick my nose right now is any business of the government.

    Get this Mr. Obama, EVEN YOU COULD PRODUCE SOMETHING!!!! I’ll bet you could learn to make a loaf of bread given the right ingredients, you don’t owe the government anything because of that. If you can’t get the right ingredients, try something else, cut down a tree and make a chair. Government is, and never was intended to be fair. The entire f#cking universe isn’t fair. Our sun is going to burn out, our galaxy will collide with another. We live in an imperfect space-time, and no amount of government grants, or bail-outs, or incentives will fix that. People get sick, if I have the skills to help I will try, I do not need the government to determine how much help I will give, nor how much I feel that help is worth.

    When you build a chair and you build another, and another, you realize you can’t use them all, you trade, you tell the fisherman “I’ll trade you a chair for 3 fish.” Some chap wanders into the conversation saying “you have to give one of those fish to me so that I can give it to some people far from the lake that don’t have fish.” WHAT?!??!?!

    Go home Mr. Obama, produce something, you cannot take my fish, nor my chairs and redistribute them.

    • CaptainWhitebread

      Doug wins the Internet. Bravo!

  • DANEgerus

    Spoken like a kid who always had to give up his lunch money at recess… bitter much commie?

  • http://profiles.google.com/sanddog Ms Anonymous

    The left wing believes everything comes from the State. They just can’t comprehend the fact that our government was created by individuals to protect certain concepts that exist independently of the state such as individual rights and property.

  • http://evilbloggerlady.blogspot.com/ Evi L. Bloggerlady

    Mitt has a chance to distinguish himself. Especially with the Obama redistribution tape as a contrast.

    This tape is going to turn out to be a blessing for Romney. Luntz was CBS noting that while there is danger of Romney not “caring” about the 47% (especially with the spin the left is putting on that), if Romney fights back and explains what he really meant it will be a positive for Romney. And Rush is encouraging Romney to start swinging. So is Instapundit (punch back twice as hard). And especially given Barack Obama’s own redistribution arguments and this crazy tweet by one of his supporters:

    Matt Yglesias does reveal where the left is coming from. I sent little Matt Yglesias a clip of Milton Friedman dismantling the distribution of wealth canard. No response from Matt. I think his wee head exploded.

    And that is not even dealing with the hypocrisy of the edits.

    I wish Andrew Breitbart were here to see all of this. He would have said, “I told you so!”

  • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

    What a dingdong.

  • Thom Harris

    Matt Yglesias, come take my house. I dare you. I wouldn’t expect to get off my lawn though.

  • http://www.facebook.com/john.hanover.35 John Hanover

    OK, so if the ” state ” were to confiscate all his belongings then that could be construed as the act of Fascists, Communists, Nationalized Socialists ( Nazi’s ) and other not-democracy ( as we know it and embrace it as such ) entities. If he truly believes what came to him in the crack pipe than he can go live it in China or North Korea, his argument wins there.

  • http://drawandstrike.blogspot.com/ Brian Cates

    I luv making it onto Twitchy………. 😀

  • https://twitter.com/AlessaRosewater Maria

    No, Matt, I own all my stuff. ALL of it. It’s no one’s but mine mine mine! Even the government can’t touch it!