sandra fluke v2

Sandra Fluke has tweeted about transgender issues on numerous occasions:

Back to today’s retweet, we’re not entirely clear what “equal access to everything” means. We think it refers to the idea that transgender students who were born one gender should be allowed to compete in high school sports as the other gender if they want to, no questions asked.

According to the New York Times, most of the transgender student-athletes who have wanted to play high school sports “have been biological females who wanted to play on boys’ teams — often a less controversial transition that ignites fewer fears about a student’s gaining competitive advantages.”

But what if a student-athlete who was born male wants to compete against girls? Doesn’t that pose obvious problems?

Steven Crowder wrote an excellent column about this back in March.

An excerpt:

Enter Fallon Fox, a male-to-female transgendered person, who has now decided to make a living by beating up women. With a record of 2-0, none of Fallon’s female victims have even made it past two minutes of the first round.  If you were to watch these fights, it would look very much like you would expect … a man knocking a woman unconscious.

In the name of political correctness, leftists have come out championing the cause, as Fallon ragdolls female opponents into oblivion.

Transgender kids are often subject to ridicule. Their lives are often not easy, and we understand and sympathize with the impulse to want to help.

That said, there are basic biological differences between the sexes (for example, differences in testosterone levels). Those biological differences typically give boys a large advantage over girls in sports. For example, the high school record in the high school boy’s outdoor mile (3:53.43) is more than 40 seconds faster than record in the high school girl’s outdoor mile (4:35.24). There are similar gender differentials in all other track and field records.

And, as Crowder notes, allowing biological boys to compete against girls in contact sports poses a threat to girls’ safety.

The rights of the non-transgendered students, such as the right to compete safely on a level playing field, cannot be dismissed.  Again, it’s a nice impulse to want to help, but “no questions asked” is no way to go about it.

  • CR

    I have no problem with someone feeling they are transgendered. I do have a problem with:

    1. Being forced to pay for surgery or hormone therapy. I mean, someone might also really feel like she was born with the wrong sized breasts or the wrong nose, should I also have to pay for breast augmentation and rhinoplasty? Someone who is overweight could argue that they are the victims of discrimination based on their obesity, so free liposuction for everyone?

    2. Other people having their rights impinged by the rights of the transgendered. Your right to swing your fist ends at my nose. Shouldn’t your right to self-identify as a different gender end at my right to be comfortable in a public (and especially school) bathroom and at my right to play sports on a girls’ team without needing to worry about a biologically male person who has more strength, etc.

    The left has to have a victim and a cause. If they “win” on redefining marriage they need to move on to destroying the next established long-standing cultural constructs that keep our society functional.

    Also, is Sandra like the official go-to authority for any and every situation where the gov. wants to get involved with people’s private sexual behaviors that should remain private. Is that like an official title in the Obama White House now? Is she on the payroll for this?

    • Gordon

      You know when folks like Fluke say “access” they mean it is a right and yes, you gotta pick up the tab.

  • I M Free

    another liberal wants to have everything for free. you want to spread your legs and you want us to pay your birth control so you can keep spreading your legs

  • omicron123

    It’s worth noting, while the transgendered individual may be unusually large, she is unlikely to be particularly strong. Estrogen makes many things go away, including muscles. They can be restored with training, but not to the same degree they once had – the transgendered fighter would likely be as much at a disadvantage playing against men as any ciswoman would be.

    Oh, and one of the first things to go? Testosterone.

    • Ben Bollman

      Um, spin it however you want but I would say if they still have the build of a man and are throwing real women around like rag dolls like Fallon Fox then the estrogen hasn’t mattered a whole lot. Common sense should prevail.

      • omicron123

        One would imagine if the power differential is quite that dire she could be limited to a different category – is there a ‘women’s heavyweight division’? Regardless, it is at least equally unfair to match her against men.

        • WingedBishop

          Here’s an idea: Those in this category can only compete against each other. Problem solved.

          • omicron123

            Except for her, as she would then be limited to a nonexistent ly small division.
            Oh, also: While I have long stood up for my republican colleagues as having no bias against the individuals involved, you are well on your way to disproving my goodwill.

          • Ben Bollman

            This isn’t politics, it is biology and common sense. You have a big person born as a man with the body of a man except for genitalia, I don’t care how much estrogen you give them they are still basically a man. I’m sure you will find even liberals agree with this.

          • omicron123

            On E, I can lift maybe 25lb.
            Please don’t presume to tell me how transition works – I know the score on that count far better, I think, than most layfolk.

          • Ben Bollman

            Are you a big muscle bound fella like Fallon Fox?

          • omicron123

            Hardly. As I was saying, one of the things HRT does to you is to decrease muscle mass. In many cases quite severely.
            Now, consider: Fallon Fox weighs just 147lb, and is 5’7″ tall. Doesn’t sound like a ‘big musclebound fella’ to me. Especially when her opponents are of nearly identical weights and heights.
            Now, you may argue that, based on her record (2 wins, 0 losses) she is at an advantage… But please note, her opponents have both racked up an impressive stream of losses against other ciswomen.

            Don’t presume foul play where none exists, mmkay?

          • Ben Bollman

            But the fact that ‘her’ opponents are great fighters and ‘she’ is batting them around the ring like rag dolls should tell you something which is ‘she’ is not as ‘she’ as you think.

          • omicron123

            ‘Great fighters’ sporting a 0-5 win-loss ratio. Real convincing argument there.


    I think that Sandra Fluke is a gay man trying to pose as a woman or something.

    I can think of no other explanations.

  • Tony0920

    It’s every man’s right to have babies if he wants them.
    But… you can’t have babies.
    Don’t you oppress me.
    I’m not oppressing you, Stan. You haven’t got a womb! Where’s the
    fetus going to gestate?! You going to keep it in a box?!”

    • Corey Dennison

      Monty Python for the Win!

  • notenoughtime

    By the time Fluke is done pushing the liberal agenda in our colleges, tuition will cover everything but the cost of an education.

    • CR

      With Bill Ayers and his merry band of terrorists in charge at our colleges and schools canceling classes to learn about tolerance after libs post rape threats to themselves, I’m not sure how much a college education is worth anyway, so I guess that’s OK, kids might as well get something for their money!

  • mickeyco

    It would be a very minor side effect, but do you think if Benghazi brings down this administration, we’d get rid of Sandra Fluke? and Stephanie Cutter? and Jay Carney? and maybe Toure? and Chris Matthews? and Candy Crowley?

    • Garth Haycock

      Dang, you really want to have your cake and eat it too, don’t you?


    • TheOriginalDonald

      Unfortunately some stupid DOESN’T go away that easily

  • Michael Anderson (WB)

    How the hell does a voter id law discriminate against the trangendered? Unless you’re flip-flopping back and forth from one gender to another you’re going to get an id to match your gender. Is there a sub-culture that does some form of rapid gender cycling?

    • CR

      Well, see, apparently ALL minorities do not use ids. It’s true, not a single minority has or knows how to get one. Since transgendered people are in the minority, it stands to reason that they would also be unable to obtain an ID.

      Or something.

      • omicron123

        The issue stems from the concept that, during the (up to a year or so) period of time between going ‘full time’ and getting your legal name/gender changed, one is quite different from the person on record as voting, and may be easier to accuse of voter fraud.

        Obviously plenty of ways around it. Absentee ballots, for one.

      • CaptainClarity

        I’ve always wondered what it is that makes liberals think minorities are incapable of getting an ID. Do they really think THAT little of minorities?

    • Gary Freeman

      It’s just the typical lib trying to help push the White House talking points about how “evil” the voter id law is. She claims that it’s to benefit transgendered people, but in reality she’s helping push the “we have to let illegals vote.”

      • Kate

        Don’t forget the crucial Dem voting block of the deceased! We can’t pass laws that don’t allow the dead to vote.

  • Steve_J

    Transgender? No such thing, never was, never will be.

    • omicron123

      I’m sorry, but we’re quite real.

      • Pat Loudoun

        Actually, you are mentally ill. That doesn’t mean that you are a bad person, but please. If you were born with a uterus? Steve, you’re a chick.

        A very confused chick.

        • omicron123

          Mentally ill, sure. And I choose to treat it in my own way. Doesn’t make it any less real.

        • Pat Loudoun

          Ooops! I meant omicron is a chick. Or a dude. I can’t tell from “omicron”.

          O, did you have an addadicktomy or a chopadickoffamy?

          • omicron123

            Neither, yet. They’re sort of expensive.
            Eventually, I intend to have the latter.

      • TomJB

        Wrong, omicron123, there is no such thing as “transgender”. Y chromosome = male, absence of Y chromosome = female. Why are you and Sandra Fluke science deniers? I will agree that so-called transgenders (note the correct use of the term “so-called”) should not be denied equal access to pshychiatric care

        • omicron123

          Genetically, yes. Now let me explain something: Being transgendered is about thought, not physical nature. It’s about some confluence of nature and nurture leading to an overwhelming and incontrovertible desire to BE something not granted by genetics. It’s hard to explain, harder still to address, and – I assure you – very damn real. If it wasn’t, I’d still be a completely normal conservative (as opposed to a completely abnormal one).

          • TomJB

            Don’t get me wrong, you can dress how you want, remove or add whatever body parts you want, its your choice. However, you will always biologically be male. Until a way is found to actually TRANSform XX to XY or XY to XX, there will be no real TRANSgender. And since it is something you can control, unlike race, ethnicity, or gender, it should not be treated as such.

          • omicron123

            I will also always be partly female, mentally and physically, as my natural B’s attest.

    • ladyinwaiting68

      We will force feminize you, Steve, when we take your guns away. I know that it is what you really want since you seem to hate us so much. The haters are always the ones in denial.

      • Steve_J

        Whatever helps you get through the day.

  • Pat Loudoun

    I say open the floodgates entirely. Girls in the boys locker room, boys in the girls bathroom, boys on the field hockey team, all of it.

    Nobody is paying attention to these things. Make them.

  • Achilles

    Well when Fluke let’s Floyd Mayweather in a dress punch her for 15 rounds I’ll consider it.

  • blueniner

    Did Fluk have a sex change?

  • WingedBishop

    Why are there transgender high school kids in the first place? It’s been a decade since I was in high school, but did I miss something here?

    • WingedBishop

      Fluke is trying to become Obama’s sports czar.

  • TMZ2

    A lot of people say, “What’s that?” It’s Maddow!
    A lot of people ask, “Who’s he? Or she?”
    A ma’am or a sir, Is it a him or her
    or whatever it might be.
    It’s time for Androgyny.
    Here Comes Rachel Maddow!

  • Jeremy


  • KansasGirl

    Am I the only one that thinks transgender is nonsense?

  • Guest

    “transgender”? No such thing. Y chromosome = male, absence of Y chromosome = female. Why is Sandra Fluke a science denier? I will agree that so-called transgenders (note the correct use of the term “so-called”) should not be denied equal access to pshychiatric care

  • medicinewomantwo

    So do dna test, you play a team sport based on results……..just remember your heels will get stuck in the mud and grass.

  • Matt

    *Transgender kids are often subject to ridicule.* WTF is a “Transgender kid”. You’re male or female. I assume we’re not talking about the very rare situation where a person has both parts. If you were born a male and for whatever reason, think you’re supposed to be a female, tough shit. I shouldn’t have to accommodate your strange lifestyle choices and I certainly am not going to subject my daughters to sports in which a male is competing with a female, because he thinks he’s supposed to be female.

  • $27789750

    Does this mean that one gets to play on the women’s and men’s volley ball team at the same time? Yes, I know I’m not PC here…but do not understand the flap over this issue and cannot see it seriously.

  • bicentennialguy

    And people have the nerve to say that men only think with the head between their legs. What the hell does Sandra Fluke think with? If it doesn’t involve her getting off, then I guess it’s not important to national policy.

  • yourmamatoo

    Let her pay for it.

  • Thomas Collins

    …free birth control for “transgendered!!!