Ths morning the Heritage Foundation released a study estimating that amnesty will cost taxpayers at least $6.3 trillion. We can certainly understand why amnesty supporters are upset, but their criticisms of the study ring hollow.

Former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour calls the study a “political document” and “not serious analysis” but does not say what specifically is wrong with the methodology.

Sen. Jeff Flake also criticized the study, arguing that it does not take into account the economic benefits of immigration.

Wrong:

Rep. Paul Ryan piled on:

In a statement provided to CQ Roll Call, the Wisconsin Republican had this to say about the Heritage report that the Senate bill’s “amnesty” component would cost taxpayers $6.3 trillion over several decades: “The Congressional Budget Office has found that fixing our broken immigration system could help our economy grow. A proper accounting of immigration reform should take into account these dynamic effects.”

Wrong again:

And please, Rep. Ryan, don’t rely on the CBO’s estimates of costs during the next 10 years:

We are open to the possibility that the Heritage Foundation’s analysis is flawed, but these are not good-faith criticisms.  In fact, given how weak these “arguments” are, we doubt Barbour, Flake, or Ryan have even read the study. (It is 92 pages long and was released just this morning.)

We look forward to serious critiques of the study’s methodology, particularly from those who haven’t been on the payroll of the Mexican government.

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  • sigh

    The idiots keep self identifying, and I don’t mean Heritage.

    • BenY

      Yes, we now know who we can apply do-not-vote-for to.

  • 24fan

    Can’t believe I liked Ryan more then Romney…goodness seems like they’ve gotten to him too.

    • kayakingfatso

      I really liked Ryan, also. Same with Rubio. And now… I’ve lost faith.

      • Zathras11 @B5

        YES!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Marcy-Cook/1001619613 Marcy Cook

      PODS in the basement……..

      • http://twitter.com/die_mich_zwei Spatial Awareness

        BINGO!!!!

    • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

      On the bright side, this amnesty stuff might help weed out some of the fake conservatives. Hopefully people will remember in 2014.

    • Miss Clairee

      Ryan and Rubio are both sipping the Kool-Aid! A Shame!

      • Zathras11 @B5

        Exactly!

  • Woody Pfister

    Ryan, Rubio, Christie – scratch. Cruz, Jindal, Haley, Martinez, check.

    • Filthy Liar

      Are you sure Cruz qualifies as NBC?

  • http://twitter.com/murphylinn Murphy Linn Spears

    Paul Ryan is on my shit list now….

    • Zathras11 @B5

      He is a surprising disappointment (ditto Rubio).

  • King James

    These republican leaders have been leading us off a cliff for a very long time. Ryan and Rubio are dead to me. They can both start campaigning to progressives they will never get my vote.

    • Zathras11 @B5

      For sure!

  • ejochs

    Ryan is the one touting amnesty with Luis Gutierrez, a noted race hustler.

  • Pmad73

    As an Arizona voter I am deeply disappointed in voting for Jeff Flake. He lines up with John McCain far too often. These men need to lose their jobs.

  • OLLPOH

    Enforce the Immigration Laws That Are On The Books!
    We Do Not Need Any New Laws!

  • Steve_J

    Barbour has lobbied for amnesty before.

  • Torqued

    When did we quit executing traitors?

    • Loren E. Heal

      Since when did we start calling policy disagreements treason?

      • sigh

        Since when did we start calling the dissolution of our national border a political disagreement?

        • fernmayo13

          Since when did alienating the largest growing ethnic group become a good idea? Good luck getting a Republican back in the WH with just the white vote.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

            Why should one advocate treating one large growing ethnic group with more favor than any other ethnic minority? Why fixate upon race at all? Why not reward those that follow rules and punish those that do not?

          • $496051

            The largest growing ethic group is alienating me with their lawless behavior.

          • JeromeFJ

            Oh, by all means…let’s Hispander the U.S. to death. You cannot cite an event in our nation’s history which comes close to the 30 years of one-race mass illegal immigration from the south. You can call it “the largest growing ethnic group” all you want, but it’s an invasion.

            Do you imagine that the Poles referred to the 1939 Germans as a growing ethnic group in Poland?

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            @fernmayo13:disqus – you mean the “largest growing ethnic group” here in the US illegally and who, so far, don’t have voting rights in the US? And why can’t you just say Latino, Mexican or Hispanic? Is that your kriptonite like “Muslim, Jihad and Terrorist Attack” is for Obama?

        • Filthy Liar

          Since we instituted our borders. When they change, and they have and will do so again, the process involves political disagreement. Where the state capital should be, that kind of thing.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003223606037 Brian Williams

        Would Loren support Amnesty for millions of Palestinians in Israel? Amnesty, Im sure would be called treason in Israel.

  • putthehammerdown

    Let’s see now :
    1) One the one hand, we got T H F, one of the most recognized, and oldest think tanks extant.
    They’ve been around quite a while, and just got Jim Demint as their leader, so I ‘suspect’ this thing was vetted, up the Holy GaZow, to Hell and back again.
    2) On the other, weaker, afflicted hand we got a former GOP Head PooBah and ‘two fuggin’ guys’ slamming it with their Twets and such bushwah.
    What will my choice be ??? What Will It Be ?,… indeed…………..

  • $24698634

    Now you hate your VP candidate? What gives? And Barbour was once touted as your presidential candidate! Aren’t you glad you found out about these guys before they could embarrass you? Cruz/Paul 2016!!!!!

    • fernmayo13

      What VP candidate?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

      He is no longer “my” VP candidate, given that we are six months post election. Furthermore, one can fundamentally and radically disagree with someone without ‘hating’ them.

  • Bklynnygirl

    I trust Jim DeMint and The Heritage Foundation.
    At least Heritage read the bill.
    Rubio, Flake and Ryan, probably not.
    They have to pass it to see what’s in it.
    I heard it was written by La Raza, Unions and other amnesty groups.
    This can’t be good.
    Haley Barbour just go away, nobody cares what you think.

  • $24835958

    Didn’t Haley Barbour pardon murderers ,who went on to murder more? Isn’t he a jerk?

  • $24835958

    Republicans didn’t lose over immigration, they lost because cavemen like Paul Ryan were always telling what rape victims should do if they become pregnant.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

      You disagree with his stance saying that victims of rape should have the option of abortion? Isn’t that a view in keeping with that of most liberals?

  • http://www.movieguide.org FilmDoctor

    Illegal aliens are cheaters, lawbreakers, and mostly freeloaders.

    • MurphTacular

      Except for the vast majority who work in hotels, kitchens and mow yards for people who think they’re too good to do that kind of work themselves.

      • $496051

        Plenty of Americans do all of those things.

        • Filthy Liar

          Nope. Basically all the fresh fruits and vegetables you eat are picked by people who get paid less than minimum wage and may or may not have a valid greencard.

          • $496051

            Source? Illegals are not a majority in any sector of the economy, including agriculture. Dozens of nations around the world produce tons of food without illegal labor, we can do the same. The market will adapt.

      • Grumpa Grumpus

        Except for the fact that by definition they have broken one of any country’s most sacrosanct laws!

        The reason that a country’s sovereignty is sacrosanct is that legally country are, on a macro-scale, what people are on the micro-scale — individual entities!

        Therefore, violating a country’s person is, in fine, an assault on the wholeness of that person, a violation of their self-determination and agency — the same as rape is in the physical person sense. Both have had intrusions forced upon them against their will.

        In the case of our nation, we have a bunch of Progressives (from both parties) doing what Progressives do best: helping in the violation.

  • ldwaddell

    What has happened to Paul Ryan? Did hanging around the real Mitt Romney affect his mind? Maybe Mitt locked him in the campaign bus and brain washed him. Just imagine what we conservatives would be doing to ourselves if the dynamic duo of Romney/Ryan had actually been elected.

    How do you stop a RINO from charging? Take away their Bank of China credit card.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Paul Ryan should know better than to use CBO numbers

    • JeromeFJ

      The nitwit CBO is using a 10 year analysis, when none of the serious damage will be done for 13 years. Their analysis is meaningless.

  • MurphTacular

    But they certainly have had time to read the initial version of this – it’s basically just an update – since its release in 1997. Face it, no one’s buying what Heritage is selling. Sorry, folks!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

      Where are your reports to refute this? Who were the economists that put your contrary report together? How long was their longitudinal study?

  • Gallatin

    Rep. Paul Ryan piled on:

    In a statement provided to CQ Roll Call, the Wisconsin
    Republican had this to say about the Heritage report that the Senate
    bill’s “amnesty” component would cost taxpayers $6.3 trillion over
    several decades: “The Congressional Budget Office has found that fixing
    our broken immigration system could help our economy grow. A proper
    accounting of immigration reform should take into account these dynamic
    effects.”

    RINO.

  • bri

    Some in talk radio thought Ryan was such a great pick for VP? Rush even said he was the best pick in years?(Palin got way more votes) Tea Party senators messing up and talk radio hosts covering for them. I do not see an upside.

  • $496051

    Sad that Ryan and Rubio are now total failures. The Republican Party is hopeless, I won’t give them another dime.

  • Ken A

    I’m curious as to the going rate for selling out to La Raza and Obama…

  • KayGee

    “We are open to the possibility that the Heritage Foundation’s analysis is flawed, but these are not good-faith criticisms.” I’ll believe that when I see it. Otherwise, it’s back to the twitcher front page for some more unbiased frothy finger waging.

  • JeromeFJ

    Barbour and Flake are politics-only dopes, and this is no surprise. But Paul Ryan? Good grief.