Today the Department of Health and Human Services released drafts of two Obamacare-related documents: (1) the application for health insurance coverage and (2) the list of questions used to determine whether online applicants are eligible for subsidized coverage.

The application itself is only 21 pages long. A trifle.

By contrast, the list of questions used to decide whether online applicants are eligible for subsidized coverage is 61 pages.

Ironically, the latter document includes the following disclaimer at the bottom of every page:

Single Streamlined Application for the Health Insurance Marketplace: Items in Online Application for Comment –Paperwork Reduction Act (PRA) Appendix A

So this is the Obama Administration’s idea of a “streamlined” document, developed in compliance with the Paperwork Reduction Act.

Indeed. If the Obamacare application is this long and burdensome, just imagine how long you will soon have to wait to see your doctor.

  • John (it true me am)

    You know the funnest part? Filling out the same exact form and questions every few months because of one of a billion little things that triggers a review.

  • SansMercy

    Sadly I’d rather do my taxes than get government health insurance.

    • GaryTheBrave

      On the tax booklet the OMB gives an estimate of how long it takes to fill out the forms. I wonder what their estimate will be for this?

      If I understand the article correctly there are a total of 82 questions to be answered on the two forms. I suspect they are all essay questions.

  • dennylee60

    Under Obamacare they won’t deny you care assuming you live long enough to fill out all the paperwork and be reviewed by some faceless person.

    • v.l.

      You’ll have plenty of time while waiting in line to see a doctor.

  • Axelgreaser

    MURDER HE WROTE! The draft of ‘ObamaCare Eligibility’ is 61 pages long and more proof that the ‘Savings’ ObamaCare falsely and carelessly touted via the MSM and through skewed CBO figures which were determined by misinformation garnered from the Obama White House and through public prevarication by Obama is designed to kill. It will kill millions, which after a fashion, you may surmise, to Democrats way of sick reasoning will provide future proof of ‘savings.’ And yet, Sarah Palin was excoriated by the left for pointing out the ‘Death Panels’ and what their implications for America’s future health needs would mean to us all. ‘Death Panels’ which are now operating in full force in advance of full HHS’s full implimentation of a HealthCare law which begin at something like 2,100 irresposibly ‘unread’ by the criminal lawmakers that imposed this nightmare on the people of the United States, to its present ‘bloated’ and growning daily, astonishing 20,000+ pages of strangling regulations, which all promise to end lives in a suffocating sea of red tape and ultimately by a bureaucratic panel of impartial, faceless, nameless people who will determine life and death. America has been punked by a Choom Wagon fake and will pay with their lives. Why in hell would the greatest country on Earth ‘lay down in the road’ for a lunatic who stood up in front of a press corp and irrationally pronounced: “Well, we have to pass the bill to, a, (fill in the lip-smacking and blinking) to, a, to see what’s in it about the fog of confusion.” She was doing Obama’s ‘leg work’ for him. Carrying his water so that he would be extricated from and present or future ramifications of this ‘assault’ on America’s healthcare delivery system, outside of the waste and fraud built in to it, the greatest on Earth. And with that as when Nancy Pelosi was queried by press on her criminal acts of inside trading, her (we assume, Botox induced) Simain grimace pretty much ended the conservation with Pelsoi’s unspoken: “That’s that, and I’m not discussing it further. ObamaCare is the law of the land and if you don’t like it, tough!”

    All Obama had to do was to prop up a small black child next to him as he signed the bill into law wearing a comination smirk and Mona Lisa smile. For every fetus destroyed by Democrats madness, so will one of us be stamped ‘Unacceptable For Living’ by a person who never knew or cared about us other than reviewing the stack of electronic data received from a ‘Doctor Of The State.’

  • Andy Rigo

    A bureaucratic socialist’s wet dream: make the process so damn complicated and infuriating that people just give up.

  • TocksNedlog

    How kafkaesque can you get? Franz Kafka — who by day worked at the Workers’ Accident Insurance Institute, and at night wrote tales that featured characters trapped inside bureaucratic nightmares — would be laughing (or crying) at this.
    This situation reminds me of one of Kafka’s aphorisms:
    “Once we have granted accommodation to the Evil One
    he no longer demands that we should believe him.”
    Sound like anyone we know?

  • N3al

    Don’t you imagine they’re hoping that if they make it cumbersome enough, no one will go to the trouble? They’ve looked at the numbers on the submission of rebate forms, probably.

  • Denise O’Connor

    This will be easy for those 80% of New York graduates who can’t read at grade level.

    • me

      didn’t you mean Detroit? Where only 7% of 8th graders read at grade level?

      Does that mean that 8% of 9th graders read at grade level, and 9% of 10th ……

      BREAKING NEWS: Hugo Chavez is still……dead.
      And now really, really, believes in global warming, just on a “universal scale.”

    • dennylee60

      I am sure Obama will solve this by hiring tens of thousands of fed workers to fill out forms for people.

      • Secede

        The same people who filled out their voting ballots for them ?

  • MJ Pauls

    Two surgeries for cancer in the past year and a half. Done with surgery within a month and a half of diagnosis each time and got to choose my doctors. Next time? I won’t hold my breath.

  • Jon

    Absurd a 1040EZ is just 2 pages long with instructions (note to Timothy Geithner this is a tax return), but the draft ObamaCare application is 21 pages with a 61 page questionnaire. I guess instead of a mere 4,000 new IRS agents we actually need 40,000 new IRS agents, 80,000 translators/interpreters, and countless other government support staff.

    • Secede

      But absolutely NO new doctors or nurses….

  • Jon

    It is a good thing the presidency and congress exempted themselves from ObamaCare because they would all fail Step 5 – “I have provided true answers to all the questions on this form to the best of my knowledge. I know that there may be a penalty if I’m not truthful.” The again the best of their knowledge is a pretty low bar.

  • © Sponge

    So, with all this paper, can we accuse the Owebama administration of senselessly killing trees and contributing to “Global Warming”?

    • TugboatPhil

      I just looked at it. On the bottom of EVERY page is this blurb:

      Single Streamlined Application for the Health Insurance Marketplace: Items in Online Application for Comment – Paperwork Reduction Act (PRA) Appendix A Revised: 01/18/2013

  • RedSoloCup

    61 pages too long.

  • arttie

    It is time to put the mortician on speed dial.

  • v.l.

    Drones…Obamacare… same thing!

  • DavidKramer

    All your information belong to us.

  • Clorinda Madsen

    And they are so chatty. Isn’t that nice of them: “Tell us about yourself.” “Thanks! This is all we need to know about Person x.” “Tell us about the job that offers coverage.”

  • kayakingfatso

    I have been saying since the beginning that obamacare paperwork will be so confusing, most will give up.
    It’s the same with the military insurance for dependents. Most give up fighting for a bill that should have been paid for, or fighting for that needed referral, because it’s simply too much run-around. I’ve dealt with govt. healthcare for my children as an ex-military wife. My daughter broke her ankle at the growth plate, and I was told she’d have to wait THREE days for the referral before seeing a doctor. Four hours of bitching at people on the phone at Tricare, I was able to get the referral. This obamacare bullshit will be the same.
    People who want this crap are morons.

  • Marty Luther

    The lines for medical care will be short. Everyone will still be at home filling out the application.

  • Plep

    This isn’t the end of it. Much of the document has “placeholder language” to be added later.

  • crosspatch

    Then they look up your political donations to see if you will be put in Plan A or Plan B or Plan C. Heavy donors to the party in power get Plan A. Small donors or non-donors get Plan B, donors to the opposition get Plan C. Plan C involves 6 week waits for anything and automatic enrollment in the “pathway to death”.

  • Diana de Santos

    “We’ll let you know what programs you might be eligible for in one or two weeks….” ROFLMAO

  • patriot fan

    Jesus, Mary and Joseph! I’m not filling that crap out! I’ll be heading to the nearest VA center if I get stuck without insurance!

  • chiefpontiac

    This is all on purpose. Make too hard for average Americans to understand. In order to implement universal healthcare, which Obamacare will eventually become, you will need a HUGE bureaucracy to run it, just like in Britain. So fo run healthcare for over 300 million people you will need to hire at least 15 million bureaucrats. So there is your voting block right there. When the health system collapses and a doctor visit looks like a trip to the DMV, the American people won’t be able to get rid of Obamacare because none of the 15 plus million bureaucrats is going to vote themselves out of a job. That’s why they can’t get rid of it in Britain. FYI, the NHS of Britain, (universal health care bureaucrats), is the fifth largest employer in the WORLD….

  • mike_in_kosovo

    “Ain’t nobody got time for that!”

  • John Fitzgerald

    Can’t wait for the first TurboScam program to come out to file this online. It is more invasive than the current IRS forms, even asking for income projections. This will definitely create jobs, lawyers, accountants, financial analysts, software producers and IRS agents. All for people who more than likely have no jobs and likely can’t read the forms. I see no indication of cost on the form. So I guess we have sign up to find out