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Microsoft rolled out its new operating system, Windows 8, on October 26th. CEO Steve Ballmer insists that consumers “get it and like it.” But sales have been weak, Microsoft’s stock is in decline, and many Twitter reviews are scathing:

https://twitter.com/NaomiTwine/status/273943295909040128

https://twitter.com/Fiver2012/status/275660520609177600

https://twitter.com/Codename_Loki/status/275489242451427328

https://twitter.com/UrbanMattMan/status/274678354022649856

To be fair, there are some positive reviews, too.

Nevertheless, it’s clear that Microsoft has a problem on its hands, notwithstanding Ballmer’s rosy assessment.

  • Robert Bihari

    One word people: Linux! You’ll never go back to Micro$oft again…..

    • medicinewomantwo

      my geek son eye twitches at the word of microsoft……………I haven’t dealt with ms sh$% for years………………..same for IE.LOL

    • NRPax

      I bought an Ubuntu laptop myself with a solid state drive and have been very happy with it. Unfortunately, most of my games still require Windows so I’m stuck for now.

      • therantinggeek

        You can use WINE or one of its commercial variants to run Windows apps on Linux. I ran World of Warcraft under WINE and the framerate was much improved when compared to a native Windows desktop environment.

        • NRPax

          Sounds like WINE has really improved since 2001-2002 which was when I first started looking at it. As I recall, it had a very narrow range of applications that would work on it.

          Thanks for the info. I’ll look into it more seriously when I start needing a new desktop unit.

          • therantinggeek

            Anytime. Glad I could be of help.

      • Robert Bihari

        WINE is much improved over past iterations, – many games actually run better under Linux/WINE than under WinBlows, Many popular games are being ported to run under Linux natively….Steam is even working with the Linux community…so full game support is getting better all the time, if that’s what’s important to you
        Give it a shot – it’s free, fast, and a REAL Operating System. If you’re new to Linux- try Ubuntu – you can even load it under Windows just like any other program & it sets up a dual-boot environment for you so that you can easily switch back & forth.

        Have fun…..

        • NRPax

          For right now, I have a Win7 desktop that’s running well. When it gets to the point I have to upgrade, I’ll go back to System 76 and buy a desktop from them. No hurry right now; I may be a geek type but I don’t update my inventory too often. -:-)

      • Hiraghm

        I like Linux, but loathe Ubuntu. I will always loathe Ubuntu until they change the name. The might as well have named it “Slavery”, or “1984”, and credited Marx or Hitler for the name.

        • NRPax

          I stay away from the distro knife fights myself.

        • therantinggeek

          Ubuntu, IMHO, is probably one of the more “user-friendly” Linux flavors out there on the market, even though it’s largely based on Debian. I cut my teeth on SuSE and early versions of Red Hat; Sabayon I’ve messed around with on a fellow geek’s server but never could quite get the hang of. But, like NRPax, I tend to shy away from the distro wars.

    • ForTheRepublic

      I despise Linux myself. Always sort of preferred Windows, even with Vista and Windows 8.

      • Robert Bihari

        Too each his own…. if it works for you, great! :)

  • Silence Dogood

    Yeah, I warned them about the lack of “Start Button” and the likes, I helped test that Platform. Not happy with it…

  • o0Nighthawk0o

    I have been using Windows 8 for the last two pre release versions. I agree that, at first, it takes some getting used to. But now that I have used it for a while I like it. I haven’t found anything that runs on 7 that doesn’t run on 8. What people need to realize is that 8 is made to accommodate touch screens and also look and feel like their xbox and their phone OS. I am not saying that everyone needs to run out and get 8 as it does have its problems, the biggest being the absence of a start menu/button. But, if you think of the start screen as the start menu, things get easier. This OS is no different than any other MS has made. People hated XP when it first came out and most waited until the first service pack to upgrade because of all the problems. It will take some time before Windows 8 catches on. Windows 7 has been out for a long time now and companies are just now starting to use it.

    • TexSizzle

      What people don’t like is change for the sake of change. I have been a computer tech for almost 2 decades, and every time Microsoft changes things around just to say they have something new, I hear (and frequently say) how ridiculous it is that people have to re-learn how to use their software. Very few of the changes are actually improvements.

    • StanO360

      I have no plans to upgrade at this time, but the whole start button panic is kind of weird. People don’t use their desktops the way they should, that’s probably why MS is dragging them to it. I only use the start button a couple of times a day (I work on a computer all day), mostly the task bar and desktop.

      • Sisserydoo

        I generally used the start button to explore the desktop and find programs to use. That’s what I’m missing…if there’s a program you want to use and can’t find it, there’s no easy way to locate it.

    • http://granitegrok.com/author/mike Mike Rogers

      Maybe.

      95 worked ok, 98 had features, but not stability
      ME was the worst of that line.

      NT 4 was ok….. By SP6
      Win2k was more stable than NT…… by SP4
      XP was OK by SP1 and darned good by SP3
      Vista was the bastard child of ME and XP.
      Win7 has quirks but is pretty good at SP1
      Win8 looks like an ill advised attempt to re-invent something that already works quite well, so let’s compare…..

      Mac OSX was a major departure that won friends after a couple of iterations, but is still going strong, while iOS was all new for iPhone/iPad, and is donating features to OSX as they prove useful.

      I use windows for work and iOS for portability, and both have their quirks. Win 8? They can keep it!

    • Sisserydoo

      …except that windows 8 totally shut down our touch screen! We had just bought it a few days before the windows 8 release and it was working fine before the upgrade. (don’t ask what kind of computer it was, my husband’s the computer geek, I don’t even know what brand it was). We had to go back to no-touchscreen to get windows 8 to work right. And it’s okay…once you figure out how to do very simple things like open a word document!

  • JustLikeAnimals

    Who couldn’t see this coming? Balmer & Co. sit in their crystal palace and brainstorm a new OS, build it, tell each other it’s awesome, box it, and ship it out to the masses, who didn’t want it in the first place. Innovation doesn’t happen in a vacuum. It needs a demand, and there’s clearly none here for Win8 (yet?). Win7 suffered the same intro. I had grown so accustomed to Win XP Pro and had 155 PCs and lappys running it that I only began to upgrade to Win7 in August.

    Personally, I think they got lost in the touchpad hype and neglected to calculate that some people don’t have or intend to work on a pad. It’s not for everyone and there are a myriad of things that pads don’t do well. To their credit, if I’m not mistaken MS said that Win8 might not appeal to PC users and was intended more to bridge the smartphone-touchpad chasm and make those experiences cross-compatible. How right they were.

    I have a free version of Win8 still in the mailer from Microsoft……unopened. I paid $14.99 for it as a promotional upgrade for a new lappy I bought in August that came with Win7 Ultimate 64-bit. Looks like I might have paid too much. =)

    • http://granitegrok.com/author/mike Mike Rogers

      You missed a step. Vista was plain awful.
      Like you, I stuck with XP until it was unsupported, and only adopted Win7 last year.
      There is no valid reason for Win8 except the MS tablet.

      • JustLikeAnimals

        Agree. I wouldn’t let employees connect to our network running Vista. Made them downgrade to XP Pro and most were ecstatic after I did. Total turd Vista.

        Also agree about Win8. It’s clearly a table and touchpad OS. MS should have just told everyone “don’t buy this if you have a laptop or desktop computer. Stay with Win8.”

      • JustLikeAnimals

        Agree. I wouldn’t let employees connect to our network running Vista. Made them downgrade to XP Pro and most were ecstatic after I did. Total turd Vista.

        Also agree about Win8. It’s clearly a table and touchpad OS. MS should have just told everyone “don’t buy this if you have a laptop or desktop computer. Stay with Win8.”

  • Joel A. Edge

    It needs repeating: “if Microsoft made a vacuum cleaner, it would be their only product that didn’t suck”

  • radjahshelduck

    In an earlier iteration, to shut down you were going to have to do 20 jumping jacks and then light a fart, so this is actually an improvement!

  • Blake Waymire

    It takes some getting used to, but I rather like Windows 8. It’s not that big of a step from 7, really. Just a new Start Menu and some extra apps (which I admittedly don’t use much; I stick to the usual stuff for pictures, the internet, etc.) I should also note I’m not a purposeful early adopter. My Win 7 PC died via motherboard and a replacement would have cost close to $300, so I found another for a mere $150 more.

  • http://twitter.com/Stimulus4U Marty Luther

    They had to release Windows 8. No other way to get to the Windows 9 release.

  • firmanthok

    Actually, im prefer like WIndows XP and Windows 7..
    its very simple..
    Im confuse with Windows 8..

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  • Ranadicus

    Every version of Windows is declared a flop on release, right before it goes on to sell tens of millions of copies.

    • garak0410

      Ding Ding Ding!!! You got it! This happens EVERY time. Even XP had slow adopters and that was the first move to NT for consumers. Windows 8 has a learning curve and it may be a little awkward on desktops but I am enjoying the overall experience.

    • therantinggeek

      I wonder how long it will take until the first vulnerability is found?

      • Finrod Felagund

        I’d bet money it already has been.

        • therantinggeek

          Wouldn’t surprise me.

    • JustLikeAnimals

      That’s because MS co-opts configurators to shove it down the throats of consumers, not because consumers flock to it.

    • JustLikeAnimals

      That’s because MS co-opts configurators to shove it down the throats of consumers, not because consumers flock to it.

  • garak0410

    Windows 8 has been stable and a joy to use..no, I am not a fanboy.

  • EzraWard

    Ah, the OS wars, one of the few things that gets people as riled up as politics and religion. FWIW, most people with twitter accounts are more than a little tech savvy, and it’s the less tech savvy folks that seem to like it the best. The tech-literate folk are split, and I’m one that really likes it. I’m buying a Windows 8 tablet, that’s where it’s meant to shine the most.

  • PC Bob

    I’m still running XP Pro, with absolutely NO problems! So WHY would I want to risk upgrading? I would go to Linux full time, except for those few apps that won’t work with it. Each MS upgrade gets more expensive, slower and more difficult to use. As for DOS, it was EASY to use and it worked. EVERY time. Windoze is just a bunch of apps piled on top of DOS, waiting for the first chance to crash! Linux runs at the hardware level, so much less chance of crashing. If I were going to design the ‘perfect’ OS, it would look a WHOLE lot like Linux, not Windows! Save your money and stick with what works. Maybe Windows 9 or 10 (or 12?) will be better. Or, maybe not.

    • therantinggeek

      If you don’t mind my asking, which apps have you tried that won’t run under Linux?

  • http://alert-up-usa.com/ AlertUpUSA

    If Windows 8 is trying to make the screen compatible with a touchscreen approach then that would mean they’re trying to be like Apple. Microsoft is always running behind Apple about five years or more. I use Apple and Linux first and then I have to use my work computer which is windows 7. Oh we’ll, *sigh*

  • http://www.theconservativevoices.com/ dmacleo

    got both, prefer 7. now on a touchscreen/pad type 8 would be best.
    for MY usage 7 works better for me.

  • aegean1

    I skipped over Vista, from XP to Windows 7. Hope my comp doesn’t die, as it looks like I’ll be waiting for Windows 9 or whatever stupid name they give it.

    • JustLikeAnimals

      Yup. I’ve got Win7 Ultimate 64-bit on my lappy and my desktop. Happy on both. Might configure the desktop to dual boot Win8 just for “ha-ha’s”, but I can’t see it being that useful for 99% of what I do (daily business slog, digital photography editing in Lightroom 4.2, and PhD dissertation).

    • JustLikeAnimals

      Yup. I’ve got Win7 Ultimate 64-bit on my lappy and my desktop. Happy on both. Might configure the desktop to dual boot Win8 just for “ha-ha’s”, but I can’t see it being that useful for 99% of what I do (daily business slog, digital photography editing in Lightroom 4.2, and PhD dissertation).

  • Streetiebird

    Such vile tweets, they must all be liberals.

  • Fatalerror94

    Windows 8 was really designed with touchscreen functionality in mind, I can understand why using a mouse would be awkward. They should have kept the two interfaces more separated and fully functional on each of their ends (very stupid and heavy-handed of Microsoft to remove the “Start” button from the desktop menu).

    The “Metro” or whatever it’s called now interface is ideal for quick and simple data consumption (if you can get use to it) and maybe some games like you would do or play on a phone or tablet. But for people who sit down in front of a full-sized PC with a keyboard and mouse, especially if you are a power user or developer, a desktop environment is a much more desirable user interface.

    I would say, if you get Windows 8, give it a week to try to figure out some of the new features and the new User Interface and after that you just can’t acclimate to it, instead of downgrading you can download these programs free of charge (Classic Shell, ViStart), that will, first, give you back the start button in task bar in desktop mode and second will boot directly to desktop mode.

  • gimmer

    Yes, no one likes their cheese moved, but you really ought to give it a try before leveling your judgement too quickly. Under the covers, Win8 is lean and mean.

    • Finrod Felagund

      It’s mean all right, but no version of Windoze could ever have been called ‘lean’– it’s been bloated for decades now.

      • gimmer

        Which tells me you haven’t given it a serious try lately. Oh well, to each their own prejudice.

        • Finrod Felagund

          Oh, I have plenty of experience with Windoze, because pretty much every place I’ve worked forces everyone to use it. My experience dates all the way back to 3.0, twenty years ago. In fact, my experience with it is why I refuse to buy a computer that runs it– why put myself through that kind of crap when I can get something much better?

    • JustLikeAnimals

      You’re probably right, but my $14, 64-bit version is still in the shrinkwrap. =) I agree though that the adoption curve is going to be pretty steep for this iteration.

    • JustLikeAnimals

      You’re probably right, but my $14, 64-bit version is still in the shrinkwrap. =) I agree though that the adoption curve is going to be pretty steep for this iteration.

  • Finrod Felagund

    Thankfully, I have never bought a computer that ran any version of Windows.

    Yes, I’m a Unix geek.

    • JustLikeAnimals

      Eunuch geek? =)

      • Finrod Felagund

        The only reason Windows’ Internet connectivity is even half-way decent is because they use BSD Unix’s TCP/IP stack. You can even still find the U Cal Berkeley copyrights in there if you look deep enough.

        • JustLikeAnimals

          ’tis true, but MS has even monkeyfied that enough so as to make it woefully unstable.. =)

      • Finrod Felagund

        The only reason Windows’ Internet connectivity is even half-way decent is because they use BSD Unix’s TCP/IP stack. You can even still find the U Cal Berkeley copyrights in there if you look deep enough.

    • JustLikeAnimals

      Eunuch geek? =)