The intolerant Rutgers mob screeched “WAR CRIMINAL” until former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice canceled plans to speak at the university’s commencement. Townhall editor and Fox News contributor Guy Benson’s take on the “jackals”:

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Brit Hume, others slam Rutgers mob’s ‘sickening’ shut-uppery of Condoleezza Rice

  • Richard J Sunkle

    Be proud Rutgers.

    You will be forever known as the school who allowed Snookie to give a commencement address yet could not allow an educated and accomplished black woman to speak.

    • Ghee!

      The lib commies that comprise this campus will still be looking for work in 10 years and Condi will have given 10 fine commencement speeches somewhere else where people appreciate the efforts of a good and honorable person.

    • LinTaylor ✓vitrified

      What more needs to be said, really?

      • Mark81150 Never/Trump/Hillary

        Only that these ignorant faculty and their drooling fanbois are actually proud they made such an indecent stink that a woman of poise and class opted out, not because she was intimidated, but because she cared that these idiots were planning to ruin the graduation experience of hundreds of students all to get at her.

        proud of being the new nazi’s… absolutely drunk on it.

        The collective brain power IQ of these cave dwelling luddites is somewhat lower than the number of morons in it, a miserably low number… the fact they lie to smear the woman is bad enough, but to silence her at every chance is just unAmerican in the extreme.

        these freaks need an education in basic civility and civics… and the complete history, not just the heavily altered redacted and distorted lefty one.

        but really, their pride in screaming SHUT UP is simply amazing in a place where ideas are supposed to be expressed., freely, without limits…. if this is an example of their version of speech, I demand every work there on Marx be banned, burned and all his proponents fired and driven out of town on a rail..

        that IS their example, isn’t it?

        If you are offended by an idea, just silence it, in as ugly a manner as possible.. I can easily get more people to demand Marx be removed from the university,.. but you can be absolutely certain, the idiots here silencing Rice,, would defend Marxism, and it’s provable 100 million deaths.. without even a trace of irony when they screech “war criminal”… Stalin killed millions, and he has more fans among left wing academics than Lincoln does, which tells you all you need know about the vile imbeciles being trained there.

        • hrwolfe

          They are not the “New” Nazis they are same as the old. New would indicate “New and Improved” but it’s the same old socialism. always is.

    • grais

      Technically, she wasn’t a commencement speaker. She was just there to talk about tanning, hair, and partying. And was paid $32K.
      *sigh*
      Once upon a time, Rutgers was a respectable school.

    • MrNewCastrati

      Rutgers will get theirs on October 18th. Go Bucks.

    • Kaya Hund

      Yes ! Snookie, but not Condi !! Civilization at its finest.

  • CatHerder ✓fire! ✓fire!

    I’d like to see the numbers on how many of these screechers actually knew who Condi was and what she did as opposed to jumping on the bandwagon because protests are “cool.”

    • trixiewoobeans

      Faculty leading students around by the gold rings in their noses.

      • Claire Garcia

        And, ears, tongues, navels—you name it. When I hired people, I wasn’t too keen on hiring people suffering from masochism.

    • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

      The situation “exploded” in 1963, she says, with riots, police abuse — and the bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in September, when four young girls were killed. One of them, Denise McNair, was just a few years older than Rice, and had been a playmate of hers.

      “And if you were a child in Birmingham, you knew then that this was not a safe place,” she says.

      http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130425923

      This is where Condi Rice came from this is her life experience. I doubt seriously this was the same experience of those tenured professors or the sheep they call students.

      • ricoliv

        But “dude,” that was like 51 years ago! Besides, “what difference, at this point, does it make?”

        • Neyt Fry

          Fresh references! :) I like it

      • Mark81150 Never/Trump/Hillary

        And not one of these brain hobbled knee jerk reactionaries either know that, or care.

        let us see,.. priviledged white milk toasts and pasty faced academic flyweights vs. Real life experiences of a woman of letters and her triumphs over them..

        it takes an especially factually retarded tool to scream silence at a woman like her.. shameless simpletons, all of them.

        wonder why the PC campus enforcers don’t see white academics screaming shut up at an extremely accomplished black woman as racism…. they see it everywhere else.. with far less proof. Once again, the academic pasty white left shows who the real racists are,.. and they’re so tone deaf, they can’t see they just made far more enemies than friends.

    • grais

      A bunch of near-teenagers have decided she’s a war criminal.
      They make me laugh.

      • ricoliv

        Never forget that much of today’s youth seems to believe that the world began when they arrived in it, and that they are the only ones with the depth of experience to set things right. These delusional, self-centered idiots permit themselves to be led around by a bunch of equally self-centered, superannuated hippies who are safely ensconced in their academic sinecures and are therefore blind to the realities of life in the real world.

      • Mark81150 Never/Trump/Hillary

        Then when faced with real war criminals like Nazi Germany, Stalin’s Russia…. they run and hide behind qualifiers like, well….. that’s different,…. to destroy Bush, Rice, Powell… they beautify Saddam Hussein as some kind of Iraqi folk hero.. seriously, check out what the Nation, Mother Jones was writting about the guy who had rape rooms, and fed enemies feet first into industrial shredders…

        but to them Rice was the “real” villain.

        These freaks are NOT on America’s side, never have been.. their only allegiance is to an ideology so hated for it’s crimes they have to change it’s name to confuse the masses… their only mission is to destroy real heroes to prop up false ones.

    • Foreign Service

      Most were about 13 & clueless when Condi left office. This is faculty-led.

      • TheRefillMan

        Now they are older than 13, but still clueless.

      • Bill Harnist

        They are now in their 20’s and are more clueless when they were 13!

    • Republicanvet

      From what I saw, it was a bunch of Religion of Pieces members instigated by some old white perfesser who threw the hissy fits.

      As I said in the other thread, these morons are too stupid to realize her role in women in the Middle East being allowed to dip their fingers in purple ink.

      …or that could be a primary reason why they are upset.

      • Thale Taxurfeet

        “these morons are too stupid to realize her role in women in the Middle East being allowed to dip their fingers in purple ink.

        …or that could be a primary reason why they are upset.”

        That would be the bunch who really does put women in bindings, and not the three ring sort. They also throw acid in their faces and bury them up to their necks in the ground prior to orchestrating a rock concert.

        Religion of Pieces indeed.

    • rambler

      They majored in clipboard science. Someone hands them talking points and sends them out to create outrage. Being a professional protestor is a lot more fun than actually having to work for a living. No one will fire them for a poor performance.

    • Jill

      I would similarly be interested in the number of students that support Obama and his not so dovish tendencies.

  • DG

    Maybe Oprah can take her place.

  • Ghee!

    This had to be faculty influenced for the most part. These students would have been around 8 years old when Condi was working at the WH.

    • DG

      Mentally, emotionally, and intellectually, they probably still are around 8.

  • Lee Jan

    Let’s not forget that this protest against Dr. Rice was fomented by the professors.

  • trixiewoobeans

    And they say the religious are close-minded, narrow and fearful. Smh.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmSIOoy6MlE&app=desktop Booker

    This school is a disgrace.

  • Moue La Moue

    And it used to be that we went off to college to seek out knowledge and ‘the other’ from which we were accustom. Nowadays it is merely a vehicle for the cookie-cutter molding of more sheeple. Awesome.

    • BTeboe

      I would use the word ‘indoctrination’.

      • Thale Taxurfeet

        These days, that’s about the extent of it.

  • vetgal1970

    guypbenson RT @baseballcrank: “Supporting the Iraq War is unforgivable & beyond the pale. Oh & please vote Hillary in 2016!”

    I LOVE this

    • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

      I know it’s not like SENATOR Hillary Clinton voted yay in favor of the Iraq war or anything. @baseballcrank needs to stop drinking the bong water IMO.

      • Adam Wood

        Baseball Crank has his tongue planted so firmly in cheek that he damn near poked a hole in it.

        • Finrod Felagund

          I think he even has his tongue planted in both cheeks at the same time, somehow.

      • Republicanvet

        If you recall, the Democrats insisted on having a second vote on the authorization for use of force so they could be on record as voting in favor of it.

        • ricoliv

          I repeat, “Dude, that was sooo long ago.” Liberal memory only stretches as far back as the events that are convenient for them to remember. Thus, any “mistakes” that Nixon or Bush or Reagan or Romney made enjoy an unlimited shelf-life. But Obama or the Clintons or JFK? Nah, their misdeeds never occurred. To say otherwise is to engage in “conspiracy theories.”

  • ThankMeNow

    Isn’t it typically hypocritical that when these objections first took root, Nancy Pelosi, she of “is the waterboarding doing ENOUGH or do we need to do more” comment was invited to speak at Rutgers with nary a peep of protest.

    So honorable, accomplished, independent, highly-intelligent, supremely-qualified, black women who have the courage to think independently are not welcome at Rutgers?

    The death of liberalism is soon upon us…….

  • MrNewCastrati

    The projecting progressives call everybody else the haters.

  • AT

    You know, I love Condi’s graceful reply to all this – full of class, and in keeping with the good character we all know her to have…

    But at the same time, in not doing so – she (and we) miss the chance to put Rutgers in the hotseat. Oh sure, we’ll blog about it, and it might be worth a segment on Fox, or Rush, or Hannity – but you know damn well that if Rutgers had done this to, say, Oprah? The unfortunate side of all this, is that Rutgers walks away feeling like they just got a win.

    • AT

      And yes, granted, an outcry of almost 2000 students led to Momo the Self-Appointed Nutrition Czar to cancelling her plans – but that was on the basis that Momo’s royal entourage would prevent family and friends from attending.

      As opposed to “some faculty and students” protesting because Rice had “some responsibility” for the Iraq War – according to USA Today.

      • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        “…[T]hat was on the basis that Momo’s royal entourage would prevent family and friends from attending.”

        As some Former-Secretary-of-State other than Prof. Rice once observed, “At this point, what difference does it make?”

    • grais

      I just read some blog quoting someone who does actually think the invite was rescinded.
      smh

  • James Perley

    Its another sign we are becoming two countries. One side will have to defeat the other. I hope the process begins with the next election,

    • Misanthrope

      One side will indeed defeat the other. Unfortunately, the sides have not yet been chosen; and the outcome will not be decided by elections.

    • Deborah Hallsted

      The chaff and the wheat ARE being sifted, but can a house divided against itself continue standing?-

      • Sturmritter

        It might necessitate the building of a new house.

        • Deborah Hallsted

          Well we sure as H*’ll need to clean house, at least! Starting with the WH.

  • descolada9

    So is the new Rutgers school uniform jack boots and brown shirts?

    • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      They’re the “Scarlet Knights.”
      Perhaps they should be required to wear a “Scarlet Letter.”

      • descolada9

        Might be a badge of pride to them…

    • Thale Taxurfeet

      “So is the new Rutgers school uniform jack boots and brown shirts?”

      Optional uniform of the day is Burqa, black, his & hers…

  • Linda

    Why is there such an uproar over this? Rice wasn’t wanted at the Univ of Minn and there were people upset over her appointment at Dropbox, so it’s not like she doesn’t have a controversial element about her.

    Why shouldn’t students (or anyone else) be able to organize and exert pressure for something they believe? It matters not what the belief is. It’s about lawfully being able to organize. I think Ms. Rice realized that and had enough common sense to gracefully decline.

    • grais

      I don’t believe anyone has said they shouldn’t be allowed to protest.

    • Republicanvet

      As off the mark as usual. The issue here is that Rice is a very accomplished woman and certainly could have presented a much better example than previous Rutgers speakers like Snooki, but rather than allow that, a small group of leftists have managed to ignore the rights of others who may have wanted her to speak.

      • Linda

        It most certainly is not off the mark. At least they didn’t show up armed to impose their beliefs.

        • Republicanvet

          HAHAHA. Still off the mark.

        • Hey, That’s Pretty Good

          Who shows up armed at Tea Party rallies? Oh, are you talking about the people who showed up to support Bundy after armed personnel (including snipers) were brought in to steal his cattle?

        • Thale Taxurfeet

          “At least they didn’t show up armed to impose their beliefs.”

          Linda, I have no desire to pile on, but I’ve heard enough of the baseless war crimes and torture allegations tossed around in relation to Ms. C. Rice –I’m not saying you made any, but the Rutgers alumnus to which you linked did– that I’m going to have to ask you to flesh that armed to impose beliefs comment out a bit so we know to who and what exactly you are referring?

        • nc ✓s & balances

          Linda, are you aware that whenever a conservative speaker has a college engagement, they have to show up with a security detail for their personal safety? Libs don’t need to bother.

          • Linda

            No

    • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      Nelson Mandela was not wanted in Miami because of his support of, and support by, Fidel Castro. Basically, he was told to tell his story walking, and he had enough common sense to decline gracefully. And those who didn’t like it agitated for Miami to become the “Arizona of the East” for the snub and for Miami to be boycotted– which the NAACP encouraged (and we all know what upright paragons they are). Go ahead and tell me that some foreign politician who managed to rehabilitate his criminal thug image in his old age deserves more consideration than a woman who served her nation well as one of its highest officials.

      • Linda

        It’s not about comparing one person to another. It’s not about the students being right or wrong. It’s about their right to lawfully organize and push for what they believe to be true. You didn’t address that at all.

        I’m not one of them, but you do realize that there are people who don’t think she served her nation well. That’s why I said she has a controversial element about her.

        • grais

          Who said they have no right to protest?

          • Linda

            No one did, but my question about it flowed out of the first question I also asked: why all the uproar?

          • nc ✓s & balances

            Linda, I don’t believe you are a racist. But the point here is hardly anyone is (Donald Sterling is an example of a true racist). But that doesn’t stop the left in general (maybe not you personally) from slinging this and other “hater” words at us from top government officials and media/entertainment/academia figures all down the line. And WE’RE SICK OF IT.

            That, and the ever present double standard, is “why the uproar.”

          • Linda

            Thank you for showing some sanity. I do believe that the right is correct that some on the left has done that. So, two wrongs make a right, huh? (Sorry, couldn’t resist the pun.)

            I think the right would be better off if they didn’t throw these “uproar” hissy fits and instead stuck to clear-head, straightforward comments. Come out against those in the right that truly make racists comments, but quit playing the victim. Just as there is a far-right element who make crazy statements, there is a far-left element too doing the same thing. But, I sure hope there is a lot more of us on both sides that are more centered.

          • nc ✓s & balances

            Linda, you’ve posted enough here that I know that you’re no troll, plus you’re a vet, that’s why I responded to you in a respectful way. But when RealGuy, for example, went off on you, he was trying to make a point. We here on the right are good, law-abiding upstanding people. But since 2009, we have been called extremists, racists, RWNJs, homophobes, xenophobes, Islamophobes, every vile name for bigot you can think of. Just for DISAGREEING. And it’s straight out of a little book by Saul Alinsky called “Rules For Radicals.” RealGuy was just giving you a little taste of what it’s been like for us, from BHO on down. Pretty yucky, right?

            So understand that we’re way past the “both sides do it” phase and we just don’t trust that things will change until we see it from the top. And we’re nowhere close to seeing it yet.

          • http://www.freedomreconnection.com/ FreedomRecon

            Snark only allowed by the left…Rule 5. Keep up nc :/

          • nc ✓s & balances

            I’m paddling as fast as I can, fc!

          • Linda

            Again, thanks. I’ll continue to have exchanges with people as long as they’re being honest in their exchanges. I’ll continue to stop having exchanges once someone thinks it’s cool to take out their anger/hate on me as a way to payback a subgroup of the left.

          • DrSamHerman

            Poor, poor, put-upon you.

            Your victimization card must be overdrawn by now, Linda.

          • Linda

            Nope, I don’t need a victimization card. I nip crap in the bud.

          • DrSamHerman

            Really, Linda? And you haven’t been committed yet for continuing to nip your own crap? By now you must have toxic megacolon and razor cuts all over your body.

          • MyrmidoNOT

            Demonstrated intolerance for ‘others’…
            who are ‘deemed’ unsuitable (to share their success).

            After all Secretary of State is ‘obviously’ controversial…
            …so I’m ‘curious’…who do YOU deem fit? (Non-controversial?)

          • Linda

            WTF?

          • MyrmidoNOT

            OK.
            If the protests weren’t demonstrations, over (your) perception that SoS Condi is controversial; who is acceptable to YOU? (Simple question, really…)

          • Linda

            You’re trying to forced me into a position I never made. Go back to my initial comment and follow along.

          • MyrmidoNOT

            Actually, NO.

            You specifically inquired as to “why the uproar”…
            …no uproar here.

            Was curious as to ‘your’ perception of “who” may be deemed acceptable to you (or the protesters…)??

            Protests aren’t a problem (per se)…but your question was answered with MY opinion. Then I asked YOUR opinion.

          • grais

            150 kids and profs are the ones who’ve caused the uproar w/their idiocy and intolerance (she’s a war criminal?? Really???)
            There are about 10,000 students set to graduate and 150 delusional, lying, loudmouthed, kids have decided that Condi Rice, a highly accomplished, intelligent, woman, who loves & served her country w/admirable distinction, from whom they could learn A LOT, is not ‘fit’ to speak to them because they disagree w/what they’ve been told she did.
            A Rutgers Point of Pride : We are highly diverse.
            (In ethnicities, not thought)

          • Linda

            Hate to tell you that there are still a lot of people who think she is a war criminal along with her buddies. Part of the protest is about Rutgers planning to give her an honorary degree.

            It’s your opinion that they’re idiots and showing intolerance (for what, I don’t know). You’ve jumped to the conclusion that they’re delusional liars simply because they don’t believe the same as you.

          • grais

            I’m well aware that lots of people scream “War Criminal!”. Funny that they, like Lawrence Ludutke, don’t provide anything other than their feelings as proof. I’d be perfectly willing to look at some proof, but it has to be something other than vague references to ‘torture’ and ‘cruel and unusual punishment’ fcol, and it has to come from someone w/ considerable legal credentials to make that particular case. Let’s see something w/some legal teeth to it, eh?

            They’re showing intolerance by being completely intolerant of Rice. That shouldn’t have been so hard to understand.

          • Thale Taxurfeet

            ” I’d be perfectly willing to look at some proof, but it has to be
            something other than vague references to ‘torture’ and ‘cruel and
            unusual punishment’ fcol, and it has to come from someone w/
            considerable legal credentials to make that particular case. Let’s see
            something w/some legal teeth to it, eh?”

            This covers the war crimes and torture matter for me. Thanks grais.

          • grais

            You’re welcome. These are people who should know better, one would think. They don’t have the knowledge or the background to make such a serious charge.

          • QueenB

            No. They’re delusional liars because they make up stuff in their heads and then repeat their incorrect “facts” to others. Delusional liars.

        • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          It’s apples-to-apples in the sense that here you had two black people, who served in the highest echelon of government being told to go $#!t in their hats by a small cadre of protestors who brought pressure to bear with veiled threats of “trouble” if they spoke. The “disrespect” to Mandela was met by pushback and bad publicity for Miami-Dade and the locals were begged by the rest of the state to apologize lest it hurt THEIR conventions/tourism too. The disrespect to Prof Rice will go unremarked upon by the NAACP and all other “progressive” black organizations.

          • Linda

            I’m just amazed that these is, like so much, turned into a right vs the left issue with race thrown in for good measure. They weren’t protesting a black woman who supported a political stance that was not acceptable to everyone.

            So, it’s wrong if the NAACP and other “progressive” black organizations don’t remark on this? What if they are in agreement that it is about her politics, not her race? You’d want them to make it about race?

          • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            It’s ALWAYS about race, or haven’t you received the memo?

          • Linda

            You know, you usually make sound arguments in support of your viewpoint. Apparently, I’ve “caught you on this one” since you’ve resorted to being snarky.

          • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            No, no snark here, I’m afraid. There IS a prevailing view on the Left that the only reason anyone could oppose Obama is race. We are accused of evading that issue when we discuss our policy differences with him and accused of using other issues as a makeweight. My statement goes– she’s being opposed because she’s some people’s idea of the wrong kind of black woman. And the black organizations will go along with this farce. Oh, you can say it’s about Iraq, or whatnot, but WE know it’s REALLY about race. Admit it.

          • Linda

            If she hadn’t done things to cause controversy, I might see it as a race issue. The linked letter to start a petition asking Rutgers not give her an honorary degree pretty well sums up why some are opposed to her. It’s written by a Rutger’s ’91 graduate (it’s not just the students).

            http://www.change.org/petitions/rutgers-university-board-of-trustees-do-not-honor-condoleezza-rice-with-a-doctor-of-laws-degree

          • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            He’s just being mendacious, as are you. It’s because she’s black. You can try to cover it up as much as you like, but your racism and his is as plain as day.

          • Linda

            Oh honestly!!!!! Prove it.

          • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Proof? I ain’t got no proof. I don’t need to show you no steenkin’ proof! Anyone who opposes black people for any reason is racist, ipso facto. At least that’s how WE hear it all the time– a little shoe-on-the-other-foot making you uncomfortable, is it? Look, just admit you hate her ‘coz she’s black. You’ll feel much better if you do. You won’t be forgiven, ever, but at least you’ll FEEL better, and that’s all that’s important, right?

          • Linda

            Now that you’ve gone down the rabbit hole, I don’t see any reason to try to have a real exchange of ideas with you.

          • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            “I don’t see any reason to try to have a real exchange of ideas with you.”

            …she said, with no sense that the piss has been taken outta her for her failure to acknowledge that I have engaged in the same Alinsky tactics that the Left usually employ when they troll these sites.

            A little “winkie” ;-P with a “Ha ha. Real funny.” will suffice.

          • Elizabeth

            Bravo! Well played!

          • Republicanvet

            …and completely missing the point of this entire thread…seeing no reason to have a real exchange of ideas because she does not like what you said.

            Are you a student at Rutgers Linda?

          • QueenB

            Because, “shut up!” she explained.

          • QueenB

            Haven’t even read the thread, but judging by your comment, lost the argument again, huh?

          • DG

            I see what you did here. Good job!

          • Republicanvet

            “If she hadn’t done things to cause controversy”

            …and everyone knows a university is the last place to challenge anyone’s thinking. Right?

          • Linda

            Huh? How does your comment fit into the discussion?

          • Republicanvet

            Ooof.

          • grais

            Oh, brother.
            He claims his petition, w/fewer than 700 signatures made a change, which he claims is a “Victory”
            Rice turned Rutgers down; it wasn’t the other way around.
            sheesh
            The doofus PhD lobbyist doesn’t know the difference between ‘flaunt’ and ‘flout’
            Somebody might be impressed with him and his unproven accusations. I’m not.

    • Republicanvet

      Controversial element about her? So, if anyone is controversial in any way, they should never speak on a campus? I guess liberals would be OK with the mediocrity.

      Why is it that only leftist concerns over controversy should be considered, but if someone is objectionable to the right, they should just shut up?

      Students on campus should be able to organize and do whatever they want to express their ideas, but quite often on these so called open-minded, tolerant and “free exchange of ideas” universities, anyone with an opinion to the right of Karl Marx is shouted down, assaulted, not allowed to present their ideas, harassed by campus administration, etc.

      College students have been harassed for handing out copies of the Constitution. College students have been assaulted by college faculty for having a display against abortion. Notre Dame used cops to shut down a presentation by students of traditional marriage.

      It does matter what someone’s beliefs are…leftists just will not tolerate anyone who challenges theirs.

      You should try some careful internet research at:

      https://www.campusreform.org/

      • http://www.freedomreconnection.com/ FreedomRecon

        Bill and Hillary welcomed with open arms, because they don’t have any controversy in their wake…right? :/

      • Linda

        What a stupid argument you’re making about controversy.

        You know, I’ve been coming to this forum for a month. I’m beginning to think that it must really be hell living in y’all’s minds. Everything is a conspiracy, everything is suppression by the left.

        • Elizabeth

          What an arrogant and snotty comment! What a pompous, elitist snob you must be! If you don’t like what’s said here, why don’t you just leave? No one forces you to comment here.

          • Linda

            I won’t even address your assessment of the nature of my comment or of my being. I’ve had plenty of comments that are far worse thrown at me here.

            I don’t leave for a couple of reasons: 1) The topics here do make me think about what I believe in a way that talking only with people of like-mind doesn’t. 2) I think it’s a good thing to discuss and challenge people’s political viewpoints.

            There are really only a few on here who go off on tangents that are nonsensical or are so convoluted that you can’t make any headway.

          • DrSamHerman

            Problem is, Linda, we experience vilification of our conservative beliefs every day of the week, non-stop, 24/7/365 (+1 during leap year) and at the hands of those who know nothing about us. We’re called racist. We’re called homophobic. Those of us who are Christians are subjected to the vitriol of a very vocal atheist minority with complicity from a majority of leftists who hold some level of faith. As has been pointed out to you multiple times, we have had enough of it. We have had enough of every little passive-aggressive tactic, and as a psychiatrist, I have seen, heard, read and experienced everything and either treated it, rendered a forensic opinion on it or have been consulted for it. None of us need to be lectured or told what is a “correct” opinion, we don’t need to be told that we going off on tangents or creating a distraction from the left because those are the very essence of passive-aggressive and juvenile tactics. It’s you setting what you want as the debate tactics and then shifting the goalposts. I have read enough of your posts to see that pattern emerging, particularly with the inferred snide digs at Republicans and conservatives.

            Wonder why I made that comment at Newsbusters to you? Figure that one out for yourself, dear, but here’s a hint–your tendency to seek what YOU define as a balanced argument is in and of itself condescending. Got it?

          • Linda

            If you’re a real psychiatrist, I’m shocked by your rant.

            You think you made some comment at Newsbusters that was so brilliant it would stand out in my mind?

          • DrSamHerman

            Spare me the amateurish psychobabble, Linda. Psychiatrists are people, just like everyone else. Difference is we’re trained to sift through crap like yours and come directly to the punch. You are a very stereotypical passive-aggressive leftist who tries, but monumentally fails, to recognize the underlying irony of coming onto a conservative board to lecture about civility, manners and debate tactics while you try to simultaneously dictate those standards. If you don’t get that point, Linda, you certainly would not have the memory capacity beyond the last ten minutes. I really don’t care what you think about reply to you on Newsbusters, because your failure to even look it up suggests you’re even more intellectually pretentious than the fist time I encountered your drivel.

            You are textbook leftist in your self-aggrandizement. You will make a good case for my psychiatry residents during Tuesday rounds.

          • Linda

            What amateurish psychobabble did I express? This second rant trying to discredit my viewpoints and disparage my character convinces me even more that you are not a real psychiatrist.

          • Elizabeth

            You’ll notice that when someone calls Linda out on her BS and it happens to be more than one paragraph, she tells them they are “ranting”. You’re not the only one she has done that to. She wants debate but when she gets it, she dismisses it as a rant.

          • DrSamHerman

            So noted, Elizabeth–thanks for the advice! Linda is so stereotypically leftist. To paraphrase a famous author, she has a mind so fine no idea could ever pollute it.

            She’s tiresome and rather dull, but I suppose she’ll read this and put up some whining screed about how she was trying to be civil and we mean old conservatives won’t debate on her terms–meaning we don’t completely agree with her nonsense.

            And she will be the case for my psychiatry residents on Tuesday rounds. Last Word Linda will be the title.

        • Republicanvet

          No. Some just feel sorry for someone who lives their life so ignorant of reality, but we strive mightily to help…no matter how futile.

          You suggest my argument is stupid, without being specific why, but you were the one who suggested Rice had “an element of controversy”. I was merely trying to understand why you think if someone is controversial, they should not be allowed to speak on a campus.

          You asked why there was an uproar over this, and I was trying to provide specific examples how vastly different any idea not conforming to the little mind of a leftist would be shouted down.

          The “uproar” that you think exists is not an uproar, but a discussion of how infantile leftists can be when confronted with ideas they refuse to tolerate.

        • QueenB

          lol You come here and get slammed with facts and reality every day. You don’t even realize it. And then you have the audacity to say it must be hell to be us? Well, you know what they say, ignorance is bliss. No wonder you’re so happy.

    • ricoliv

      In this case, given the youth and relative inexperience of so many of the protesters, one might wonder just how deep their feelings go. Still, one could say that Justin Bieber has “a controversial element” about him. And there are a number of “controversial elements” about both Clintons, but may one assume you would be permissive of any protests which might target them? The protester who threw a shoe at Mrs. Clinton recently would have been within her rights to continue until she had effectively (forgive the pun) shoed Mrs. Clinton off the stage. That woman was undoubtedly organized (despite the fact that she lacked the foresight to take more than one or two shoes to the event) and she must have believed her cause was just. By your reckoning, was she not entitled to her protest? Unfortunately, the components of “controversy” often exist solely in the mind of a single demagogue. The right to protest may indeed be tied to the ability to organize and may, in your philosophy, be justifiable. Yet demagoguery is both a pejorative and a form of “legitimate” protest, since it meets these criteria of possessing the capacity “to organize and exert pressure for something [the protesters] believe.” We must remember that when we are prompted to oppose the next KKK or pro-Islamist or bible/flag-burning demonstrations. After all, these people will no doubt possess the capacity “to organize and exert pressure for something they believe.” The problem with intellectual theory is that it often has to rub up against emotional reality.

      • Linda

        Wow, you’ve thrown a lot of points in one long para. I’ll try to address them concept by concept…while at the same time watching the Kentucky Derby coverage…they’re showing the early races but I want to see all the hats, lol.

        1) Just because they’re young doesn’t mean their beliefs don’t run deep. Were you alive for Kent State? For the Vietnam protests by the young baby boomers? Traditionally, it is the young who lead new paths because they haven’t been beaten down by life yet and have all the energy in the world to be activists.

        2) Really on the controversial comments? There are certainly different levels of controversy and you’re trying to make them out to be equal. Do you know that they weren’t just protesting her giving the commencement speech? That were protesting Rutgers giving her an honorary degree?

        3) Again, you’re off on a side tangent about the woman throwing the shoe at Hillary, trying to make it a equal example. Pfffftt!!

        I do believe that people can speak out against a protest…when REAL arguments are used, which I haven’t seen much of here today on this topic.

        • TroubleAtTheMine

          You’re actually just an idiot.

          • Linda

            Thank you for your assessment…it means a lot to me [snort]’

          • TroubleAtTheMine

            It means enough that you could NOT resist responding.

          • Linda

            oh, it’s fun to respond to someone who thinks it’s ok to call someone else an idiot…usually means they are that themselves

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Well, let’s think about it from this direction:
            A University decides that they don’t want Obama at their graduation because he’s an elitist, smug, underqualified, conniving weasel that’s bent on forcing socialism down our throats and bankrupting the country with Obamacare.
            Reactions?
            OMG! RACISTS, HATERS, LYNCHING, MOBS WITH PITCHFORKS & TORCHES!!!!!!!
            Double standard?

          • Linda

            Melodramatic?

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            What do you think would happen if a group of university students protested Obama speaking at their commencement until they got it changed?
            Oh, well, they’re just exercising their minority opinion. Where’s the harm? It’s courage and bravery and all that.
            Somehow I doubt that’s how it would be played out.

          • Linda

            Isn’t this just a repeat of your earlier post? Bottom line is that this is a hypothetical…you may or may not be right about your conclusion.

        • DrSamHerman

          I was alive for Kent State, Linda. I was also alive for all of it, and it became very clear that most college students at the time knew very little of the outside world, let alone the realities of war or the unspeakable horrors they inflicted on the returning soldiers. That was nearly all at the hands of callow, inexperienced and ignorant youth manipulated by a generation of disaffected societal dropouts. Funny how history has just come to repeat itself. Young people are still vulnerable and leftists are still manipulating their inexperience and maturing sensibilities with rhetoric that has not changed since the 60s and 70s. Funny how your side loves to label yourselves “progressive”, yet can’t move away from labeling everyone who disagrees even slightly with them with the most heinous characteristics.

          And again–stop with the juvenile, passive-aggressive dismissals. In case you haven’t noticed, Linda, so far you are batting 0% in rationality when you try those tactics.

          • Linda

            I was alive for all of it too. You’re right that college students knew very little of the outside world. In that regard, they were no different than the ones who preceded them or the ones who followed them. Youth are no more vulnerable to leftists than they are to righties.

            I can say the exact same thing about the right labeling everyone who disagrees with them and be just as correct in that as you are in saying about the left.

            Just which dismissals would be juvenile, passive-aggressive?

          • DrSamHerman

            Your major problem is that you try to set the terms of how people talk to you then dismiss them when they disagree with you even slightly. The underlying tone of your posts is at a level below adult discourse, as if you were lecturing some teenager. At my age, I don’t need your lectures and this board certainly doesn’t need another passive-aggressive schoolmarm like you constantly making such irritating and amateurish digs at our political beliefs. So you are bored at other leftist chatrooms, boards and the like? Go bother the libertarians. At least they might be willing to follow some of your inane commentary.

          • Linda

            You keep making allegations that I try to set the terms of how people talk to me. Hhhmmm, I’m guessing you say that because once someone shows that they aren’t going to try to have any real exchange of ideas but instead are only going to disparage my comments and character, I quit taking the bait. Which is exactly what I’m going to now with you.

    • QueenB

      Yes, because in the name of tolerance, there are some things that cannot be tolerated.

    • Sturmritter

      Did you conveniently forget that Ms. Rice was initially INVITED to speak, and that she has a 1st amendment RIGHT to speak at a public university? She only declined because of the the distraction these protesters would have brought to the graduation ceremony, but I can assure you that these student and faculty protesters are not being tolerant, nor are they being respectful of Ms. Rice’s constitutional rights.

      • Linda

        Hmmm, it seems you are conveniently forgetting what the first amendment is about.

        • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          The First Amendment is about people’s right to assemble peaceably and to petition the Government for redress of their grievances.

          In order that these rabble-rousers may petition for a redress of their spurious “grievances,” they seek to abridge other people’s right to peaceably assemble.

          So there IS a First Amendment aspect to this– which YOU are overlooking.

          • Linda

            …right to assemble peaceably WITHOUT government interference

            Both of you need to brush up on what it says and quit deliberately twisting it to suit your argument.

          • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Actually, there is no such limitation on the right to assemble peaceably in the text, nor in the jurisprudence– nor is there any such limitation on the right to petition for redress.

            Such limitations as there are, are a function of time and place; the Government can certainly interfere with a peaceful assembly where, e.g., the fire laws are being broken by having twice as many people as can be accommodated safely. Likewise, the Government can set rules and regulations as to where and when, e.g., public hearings on a proposed law will be held and who will hold it, and bar people intent on merely disrupting it from attending, i.e., ejecting them, to make sure that petition for redress is not made a mockery of.

            To say that people choosing to attend a graduation at a State University at which a former public official will deliver an address are not “peaceably assembling” tortures the meaning of the words, and if people expressing their disdain for FLOTUS to attend a graduation in Kansas if it means they will be excluded for logistical and security reasons are not “petitioning for redress of a grievance,” this too tortures the meaning of the words.

            But even granting arguendo your assertion that WE are doing the twisting, hey– isn’t the Constitution a “living breathing document” whose meaning changes over time? Maybe it needs a tweak here, a nudge there… why not?

  • Jimni27

    Two years ago Rutgers defended paying Snooki #32,000 to do a speech at their esteemed University http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/01/us-snooki-idUSTRE7305LQ20110401

  • FreedomFighter

    The faculty who protested Rice said she “bore some responsibility for the Iraq war.”
    Hillary gave a speech at Rutgers in 2007, and she voted for the war in Iraq. Where were the protests then?

    • grais

      And the children are flat-out calling her a “war criminal.”

  • Suzyqpie

    This is the same tactic that removed Ayaan Hirsi Ali from speaking at Brandeis last month. How these people can hang onto the “diversity and tolerance” meme is beyond me. Democrate duplicity is a wondrous dichotomy…

    • St Reformed

      “Liberal Fascism” —by Jonah Goldberg

  • Honest Abe

    Deepa Kumar is one of the people crowing over this “accomplishment”. Let her know how you much appreciate her work @ProfessorKumar.

    • Hannibal

      I thought she was great in “Harold and Kumar go to White Castle”.

  • DG

    Colleges and Universities is where children transition into adulthood and should be confronted with opposing views and opinions and beliefs. If you don’t learn how to handle those who think differently than you at this age of your life, how do you expect to succeed in life when you enter the real world and encounter those who think differently from you, which is a guaranteed certainty.

    • Republicanvet

      They will do like they do now…stomp their little feet, join a mob and ruin those who have ideas opposite theirs.

      • DG

        Yup. Which is why they won’t work for me.

  • Jack Deth

    So, who wants to bet that all of these Rutgers students will llne up, lemming-like to vote for Hillary in November, 2016.

    Even though she was the Democrat Senator leading the charge to authorize the “evil, crime laden” Iraq War?

  • OldPhil

    Straight out racists.

  • Roadster73

    A BLACK (strike 1) WOMAN (strike 2) was discriminated against by this school. This is just a racist, sexist school, is that what the students there are learning? To discriminate against women and minorities? Where is the media on all of this? Probably celebrating. Why isn’t Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the NOW gals marching in her support? When is the call to boycott Rutgers going to start? Some NBA owner just got creamed for race discrimination, why isn’t the faculty of this school also getting creamed?

    • DG

      You left out REPUBLICAN (strike 3) who worked for BUSH(strike 4).

    • Jake Bradford

      Black female conservatives are like heroin to these people. They get to unleash their bottled up (for appearance sake) racism and misogyny and get a complete free pass all the way.

      • Hey, That’s Pretty Good

        Seen above where Linda is defending the left silencing Condi

  • Jake Bradford

    It’s a good thing Obama isn’t involved in any wars….

    • Hey, That’s Pretty Good

      And it’s a good thing he didn’t try to get us into any wars. Oops, I forgot about Libya and Syria.

      • St Reformed

        He declared war on America in 2009. He’s been fighting that one ever since.

  • Tom

    I find that a university education is largely lost on someone who doesn’t pay for it themselves (or go on the GI Bill after serving in the military).

    I finished my BS 22 years after I started, going to night school for years while serving on active duty. Tuition assistance helped though, so I didn’t pay for it all out-of-pocket.

  • Jake Bradford

    Most campuses these days are ruled by 3 fearsome, very loud and very #bossy PC gangs: the feminist bullies, the LGBT bullies and the Muslim bullies. Woe be to anyone who dares to “offend” them.

    • St Reformed

      Sad but true. After 20 years in academics, I have concluded that the universities are hog-wild about diversity of skin pigmentation. But diversity of IDEAS? Forget about it!

  • ISurvivedaBlueState

    Liberal Logic:

    Clippers guy:
    He is a bad man! Racism bad! Off with his head!

    Stuffy professors, afraid of challenging ideas and “critical thinking,” preventing an accomplished black woman from speaking to college students:
    YAY!!!

    • NickRepublic

      Exactly. Tortured thinking at its apex.

  • padraic 91244

    Elizabeth Warren graduated from Rutgers law and later taught there. I’m not sure whether it was before or after she became an American Indian. She was both grad student and faculty. ‘Nuff said about Rutgers. I hope they get hammered.

  • WisconsinPatriot

    Liberal “war on women” has taken on a new front….. Who ever thought that liberals would put the hoods back on and chase blacks from all they hold dear. “Over there Condoleeza,that restroom is for the likes of YOU”. “Don’t you dare drink from THAT fountain, there is a separate but equal fountain over there……and uh…..make sure to leave the front of the bus open for the folks who agree with us and are ON THE PLANTATION”. Sickening.

    • nc ✓s & balances

      Your WI DNC candidate for Gov has the hoods all ready!

      (“Your” state, not “your” choice for Gov.)

      • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

        I might have to go down into town and chase that little rodent back into his sewer grate by Lake Monona.

  • yohendri

    Maybe they’d be happier with Don Imus? Never mind.

    • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      Believe me, what they’re calling Prof. Rice is on a par with what Imus called the women’s hoops team. And if you recall, Imus never actually intimated that those young women really WERE what he “called” them, just that that’s what they looked like to him. Something tells me the names that are thrown at Rice are sincerely meant to be what Lefties consider an accurate description of her.

  • TVree

    This just goes to show that LibProgs hate accomplished, black women of power.

  • Marvin Nelson

    Rutgers “professors” are a bunch of liberal, closed-minded, spoiled morons. They are all examples of the failure of tenure.

  • robert anthony

    War criminal? Condoleeza Rice gave a half billion dollars worth of arms to raping, kidnapping, murdering Al-qaeda? Oh no…THAT was the Nobel Peace Prize recipient currently in the WH.

  • Frank’s Inatra

    I’ve found this to be a useful lamp of liberty holding timeless truths for today’s course of human events: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0094KY878

  • St Reformed

    Ironically, the way to punish a Marxist institution for outrageous behavior is to employ the old capitalist method—with $$$$$$$$$$.
    Rutgers alumni & donors take note: Is this what you endorse your alma mater for?
    Stop giving the parasitic Marxist professors a free ride.