It’s not just Occupiers and Alex Jones fans uniting for #MarchAgainstMonsanto. Hollyweird enviro-nannies are more than happy join forces with conspiracy kook Jones to “occupy the food supply” and promote their crusade against agricultural biotech giant Monsanto, a leading producer of genetically engineered seeds and herbicides.

Genetically-modified crops make food cheaper and more plentiful. But try telling that to actress Eliza Dushku and her anti-GMO pals in the entertainment industry. Dushku retweeted Jones’ tweet promoting the May 25 demonstrations.

Think we’re going to pass up a chance to embed the “Alex ‘Hyperbole’ Jones” video? It’s like you don’t know us at all!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYJPJ6hlYHA

The #MarchAgainstMonsanto stream is chock full o’ breathless tweets and retweets from anti-GMO activists, Occupiers (worst farmers ever) and celebs like Mark Ruffalo, Roseanne Barr and Stuart Townsend.

https://twitter.com/Stu_Townsend/status/338190586693705728

They’re all about “choice,” unless you want to choose to consume (or avoid) genetically-modified food.

Because GMOs are the new slavery. Or something.

Bill Maher, Danny DeVito, Dave Matthews and others recorded this propaganda video about “Frankenfoods.”

Related:

Sarah Silverman, libs pester First Lady about ‘Monsanto-y’ bill signed by Obama

Clueless: Alicia Silverstone urges her fans to hop on the anti-GMO train

Anti-GMO tweeters protest so-called ‘Monsanto Protection Act’

Roseanne: Monsanto is planning to engineer cyborgs to replace humans

Danny Masterson endorses ‘fuck Monsanto’ tweet

  • milletime810

    lol idiots

  • ra44mr2

    My problem with monsanto is how it is getting laws passed etc that give it absolute control over all food. such as seeds etc. I dont care about the GMO aspect of it, heck make more and cheaper food im all good with that. but dont try and make laws that will restrict others from growing their own food.

    • GaryTheBrave

      I think Monsanto makes Roundup weed control. From what I have read some farmer used it on his crops and some of it drifted over to the neighbor’s farm. Monsanto told him (the neighbor) that he has to pay a permanent franchise fee because it is in his ground.

      • Jeroniomus

        That’s Percy Schmeiser. Monsanto destroyed his farm, AND sued him! Google it. Monsanto is horrible, but I guess we know where Miss Twitchy is getting her money.

        • LordStark

          I didn’t take it that way. I think the point of this is to show the hypocrisy of the left who try to associate Alex Jones being representative of those on the right only. Also,notice the article only speaks to GMO food in general, not Monsanto specifically. Unless Monsanto has a monopoly on GMO (maybe, I have no idea?), I don’t necessarily even see it as tacit support of the company

        • Dencal26

          Not what happened. Percy was sued for using Monsanto’s genetically modified seeds without permission. Monsanto lost the lawsuit

          • KayGee

            So it’s my responsibility if someone else has GMO crops nearby thar produce pollen that contaminates the genome of my otherwise normal plants? since I’m in the vicinity of someone else who chooses to use Monsanto products, they are automatically entitled to my money even if i never planted any of their crappy seeds in the first place? Funny how the laws work, Free market I guess…

          • Dencal26

            The farmer WON the lawsuit

          • KayGee

            he’s one of the lucky ones. What’s being pointed out here is that this type of situation (and the ensuing lawsuits brought by Monsanto) is a common problem in farming towns. litigating small farmers till they’re out of business. this one got lucky.

          • Dencal26

            Hopefully legal precedent was set with this case and Monsanto won’t be able to sue anymore

      • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

        They make Roundup, sure… but farmers are stuck buying their terminator seed. The lawsuits come from Monsanto’s PATENTED “crops” accidentally ending up in some other farmers’ field, that didn’t purchase Monsanto terminator crop seed.

    • likeablaze

      ra44mr2 and GaryTheBrave get it. I’m all for GMO foods and Monsanto being a business, but they are suing and doing other terrible things to American farmers.

      And Alex Jones is a tard.

      • BlueGood

        Canadian Farmers are being pushed out by Monsanto as well!

        Don’t know much about the GMF’s but Monsanto IS TOO LARGE and is killing off smaller operations….

        • digitalPimple

          How is that possible? What are they doing exactly? Can’t compete with farmers who yield more with the magic seeds?

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            That ‘yield’ will never reproduce. Anything from Monsanto will always terminate, never pollinate to produce the next generation of crops. Farmers are stuck.

          • digitalPimple

            So you’re just mad at what exactly??

            They created the seeds and intend on protecting their intellectual property rights. Don’t like them don’t use them. Are farmers being forced to use these seeds against their will?

            Seems you want all the benefits of their seeds without paying for it is all

            Even a basic understanding of science and reading data does not support any of the assertions of danger I heard thus far.

            Sorry. I tried but this is a bunch of nonsense thus far. There are alternatives to GMO’s. Go get them and support your local organic farmers.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            You completely misunderstand what I was saying. It’s not just about intellectual property rights. You haven’t done enough research, if you’re still endorsing Monsanto.

          • KayGee

            Are you 100% sure that cross pollination and the resultant contamination NEVER EVER occurs to neighboring farms that are using regular plants? It is highly unlikely that they’ve weeded out all the little defects that can happen with a genetically modified organism, such as contaminating the crops of nearby farms with their mod genes through pollenation…. they just wanted to get it to market and make a buck. I cannot believe that they aren’t sued for some sort of damages when their products contaminate nearby normal crops on another person’s farm, because this is exactly what’s happening. How come an independent farmer has to pay for the poor choices made by their neighbor? That’s not freedom.

    • https://twitter.com/SmileyRoffle Smiley

      Same here. They also like to use the courts and Big Government to keep from having to label their GMOs. Whether or not you like GMOs is one thing, it’s another thing to scheme to keep consumers in the dark about what’s in the foods they eat. Garbage like that is not only anti-free market, it fuels idiots like Alex Jones.

      • AMSilver

        I disagree with the labeling issue. Look at how well the libs can scare the populace with terms like ‘pink slime’ and ‘frankenfoods.’ Labeling is a tactic to try and get rid of GMOs, which have been in use for decades with no evidence of harmful side effects. Are they also going to label which foods are made from seeds that were irradiated to cause mutations so they could find a new useful gene? What about those that were cross-bred to gain new traits? Don’t we deserve to know exactly what they were cross-bred with (was that tomato you’re eating cross-bred with a ‘natural’ species that is still poisonous in order to get that juicy flavor?) The labeling only targets one business (GMO seed producers) and not others (which can be made to sound equally scary if you decide to spin things against them) and so doesn’t meet my criteria for good legislation.

    • John (it true me am)

      Exactly. GMOs are not the problem. Abuse of copyright law and predatory, monopolistic business practices are.

      Most of these people don’t even know what a GMO actually is. They call it “frankenfood”, and that is just absurd. GMOs have existed for millenia and go far beyond this idea they have in their mind of food being altered in a laboratory like a scene out of Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. Most of the time it is simple selective breeding, no different than hybrids you could create in your own garden.

      • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

        GMO is NOT hybridization. GMO is introducing genes from other SPECIES, animals even, to make their crops all kinds of resistant.

        • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

          So what though? How does that make them harmful to humans?

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            So I suppose you’d want some gene from some animal that provides you with night-vision? Like a cat, or something? Or how about the gene that causes birds bones to form hollow, so that you could fly? What part of it don’t YOU get? They are creating new organisms simply by putting pieces of animals, fish (are humans next?) into their ‘crops’.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            Yeah, that is a bunch of fear-mongering nonsense. Splicing genes in order to make crops more drought resistant so they don’t die in the hot months of summer is different than creating X-Men. You people have a wild imagination.

          • KayGee

            Think about this then, there’s evidence that BT-producing crops could be causing a build up of the BT toxin in mammals, like humans when consumed continually over a long period of time… BT is supposedly only toxic to insects, hence it’s use as in GMO and as an insecticide on the plants themselves, the thing of it is, over the long term, how much of this stuff get’s built up in your lipid tissues, liver and kidneys? the thing about toxins and fat is they hang on to it for years in your body, slowly causing problems. When it’s used as a GM gene, you can’t wash the BT off the crop like you can when it’s sprayed on as insecticide, because it’s part of the crop, a protein that the plant is now expressing throughout it’s tissues from it’s modified genome.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            Where is there any evidence that it builds up in humans? Your body gets rid of toxins on its own. Ant-GMO people concoct these theories yet have no science to back it up, they are experts at scaring themselves and people gullible enough to believe them.

          • KayGee

            That’s the thing, there IS peer-reviewed research that shows that long term exposure indeed does lead to the toxin showing up in human blood, so you tell me? how long can one stress their body’s toxin-filtering ability before it starts to fail? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21338670

            Furthermore, that article points to fetuses being at risk from maternal exposure to this toxin. Shouldn’t the welfare of the unborn and innocent be of utmost importance to people in a moral society? or is a chemically induced abortion OK if Monsanto makes a buck?

            The issue is, there’s a lot of money to be made here, and if the suspicions that long term exposure is indeed hazardous to human health, there’s a lot of money to be lost. When Obama appoints an ex-monsanto exec as head of the FDA, who do you think has your best interests at heart? That’s right, you CAN blame this on Obama.

          • KayGee

            Think about this then, there’s evidence that BT-producing crops could be causing a build up of the BT toxin in mammals, like humans when consumed continually over a long period of time… BT is supposedly only toxic to insects, hence it’s use as in GMO and as an insecticide on the plants themselves, the thing of it is, over the long term, how much of this stuff get’s built up in your lipid tissues, liver and kidneys? the thing about toxins and fat is they hang on to it for years in your body, slowly causing problems. When it’s used as a GM gene, you can’t wash the BT off the crop like you can when it’s sprayed on as insecticide, because it’s part of the crop, a protein that the plant is now expressing throughout it’s tissues from it’s modified genome.

          • GaryTheBrave

            Every time you eat meat or vegetables you are introducing that species DNA into your body. Unless you do it in excess you don’t get harmed by it.

        • John (it true me am)

          I didn’t say hybrids were GMOs. I said most GMOs were LIKE hybrids, little if any more than creating a seedless fruit.

          As for the breathless panic I can only imagine about introducing genes from other plants and animals(which I don’t believe is even true as far as items actually available on the market and not just backroom experiments), that is pure hyperbole. The anti-GMO lines like to make it sound like they are growing talking potatoes. In reality it is a fairly simple process that hinges entirely on a handful of very common traits that has NOT shown to cause any harm when intended for consumption. Simply altering a plant doesn’t mean that eating the plant will then somehow alter you(as per many propoganda videos).

          Though I’ve said it in another thread, creating disease and insect resistant is just a bad idea regardless of the GMO issue as it just forces the environment to adapt creating “super” versions of the pests and bacteria that then decimate regular crops. However this does NOT come into play when things are being made resistant to man made herbicides or simply having yield or sugar content increased.

    • digitalPimple

      It’s growing their own food with their patented seeds is the problem. How are they stopping you from farming exactly?

      • chesterarthur

        Ever hear of legal harassment?If you haven’t you haven’t done your homework.If somebody wants the GMO seed,that’s their business.If they don’t,and it gets their by whatever method(wind or animal deposition)that shouldn’t trigger the legal assault monsanto throws at the innocent farmer.If all your money goes to legal fees,that puts a pretty good dent in your wanted seed budget.If their was a kindergarten primer on this,I’d recommend it to you.

        • KayGee

          Which begs the question: Why should all the farmers in a given town be forced to fork money over to Monsanto because one farmer decided to buy their seeds? Free market? Free choice? I think not.

        • KayGee

          Which begs the question: Why should all the farmers in a given town be forced to fork money over to Monsanto because one farmer decided to buy their seeds? Free market? Free choice? I think not.

    • tjp77

      What are you talking about? If you ‘don’t care’ about the GMO aspect, then why do you have a problem with the rest of it?

      Monsanto spends billions of dollars to develop their seeds and other biotech. They’re basically inventing new genetic formulas to make crops more resilient and healthy. They have a right to make money on their invention, just like any other inventor. Unfortunately, because these technologies are relatively new and have challenges unique to other forms of intellectual property, they require a somewhat different set of legal protections. And Monsanto has every right to lobby for those protections, in order to keep their business viable.

      If their seeds could be infinitely reproduced and resold without any royalty paid back to them, there would be zero incentive to continue dumping billions into R&D. They need certain laws on their side in order to keep doing what they do.

      • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

        Yep, that is the best explanation of it. I don’t condone their thug tactics and I think it is unnecessary to go after small farmers who are innocent(not saying they all are either) but they do have reason to do it though since it is their technology. If everyone was allowed to grow their seed and sell it they would go out of business.

    • digitalPimple

      Sooo picket the company? Now this is something. A company is passing it’s own laws now? Now that’s news. How is that possible? Do tell pls.

    • digitalPimple

      What laws? link?

    • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

      People can criticize the linear-thinking anti-Monsanto activists all they want, but as Jason Lewis says “big business is no friend to freedom these days”.

      • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

        Except it isn’t just Monsanto and are we going to discard every good technology a big business came up with just because of how we feel about them personally? Think about that when you are using Windows, Bing, or your iPad.

  • PatriototicFirestorm

    You would have to be insane to stand with Monsanto’s GMO’s. GMO’s are poison, Roundup ready seeds are poison. Period. Keep wondering why autism rates and other childhood disorders are skyrocketing.

    • AMSilver

      Oh, wait, I know this one! Autism rates are skyrocketing because of vaccinations! Too much TV! Pollution! The fact that it’s a new diagnosis that is becoming a) more widely known about by both doctors and parents and b) more vaguely defined with each successive version of the DSM so that more and more people fall under it’s diagnosis! (Nah, that doesn’t sound at all plausible)
      Do you have a single study that shows a connection between GMOs and any ‘disorder’? Do you think South Korea uses more GMOs than we do? Their autism rates are 1 in 38 people with the diagnosis compared to 1 in 110 for the US.

      • chesterarthur

        Look up mercury poisoning.

  • Harry A

    “It’s not just Occupiers and Alex Jones fans uniting for #MarchAgainstMonsanto. Hollyweird enviro-nannies are more than happy join forces with conspiracy kook Jones to “occupy the food supply” ”

    I don’t understand why twitchy keeps trying to label those who protest Monsanto as only lefties and kooks. I personally don’t have a problem with it, but it’s very clear that the comments on all these stories that many avid twitchy readers have a big problem with it. In fact I would go as far to say that on many of the posts it would appear to be the majority who have a problem. Say what you want about protestors of Monsanto, but its undeniable that there are many conservatives among their ranks; pretending that that isn’t true will not make it any less of a fact.

    • Hiraghm

      because they are kooks.

      • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

        And lefties. And know nothing about GMOs. And have never farmed a day in their life. And don’t have any science to back them up. And are fear-mongers trying to gin up support to get the government involved in controlling our food supply. The fact that conservatives are involved in this sickens me, they should know better.

        • AMSilver

          I really wish I could vote up your post multiple times. There is such a lack of real information about GMOs out there that even conservatives get that tingly anti-technology tickle of fear down their backs. It’s very frustrating seeing people who are otherwise intelligent and discerning fall into the anti-GMO camp – it seems largely because the only information readily available is anti-GMO propaganda. I have a reasonably scientific sister-in-law who’s deeply concerned about GMOs because ‘changing even one protein is going to have an effect on your body’ and therefore it’s important to do scientific studies on exactly what genetic modifications do. How many proteins does she think get altered when you cross-breed? When you irradiate seeds to get beneficial mutations? If she’s concerned about one protein being changed, she ought to be even more concerned about lots of proteins being changed – especially when with GMOs you know exactly what the change is, but with other methods there could be dozens of unknown changes. Genetic modification is precise – crossbreeding and irradiation are *not*.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            You are awesome, thanks. Yeah, since I farm I’ve studied the technology for a long time and these anti-GMO people make them sound sinister when all they really are is taking the benefits of one thing and making it so they are beneficial in the plant. I don’t get this idea that by eating corn spliced with a cactus gene that makes it drought resistant that somehow the person eating it is going to be magically mutated as a result, that is dumbass logic to me. In fact GMOs keep us from using more chemicals which make food even safer, I wish these people would know more about GMOs and their benefits before they jump on the bandwagon.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            Because they don’t stop with plant-to-plant genetic material. They have crossed the line and have introduced genes from other species. You might be okay with transhumanism, but I’m not.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            OH NOES! IT SOUNDS SCARY SO I MUST BE AGAINST IT!! No one is splicing crops with humans either. Eating GMOs will not mutate the person eating them, this isn’t a comic book.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            Talk about stupidity. Did I once mention ‘mutation’? I don’t think so. Our bodies are designed to process compounds in very specific ways. I.e. the difference between ‘right-hand sugar’ and ‘left-hand sugar’. By introducing compounds and/or foreign genetic material, they are affecting the way the plant grows, which in turn affects the way the body that eats it breaks down and absorbs nutrient. Or doesn’t absorb, as the case may be.

            The results are clear, in the increase in gastrointestinal disorders today. By the way, you can eat all you want… if there’s no nutrition value, however, you may as well not eat at all. That’s GMO for you. Keep growing your nutritionally deficient crops, there farmboy… I’m sure they will ‘feed’ many.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            They are not nutritionally deficient, in fact a lot are bred specifically for MORE nutritional content. Where are you getting this stuff from? As I said, there are other places to get news from other than Infowars.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            I don’t visit Infowars, sorry to disappoint you.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            Could’ve fooled me.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            Glyphosate’s (Roundup) mode of action is to inhibit an enzyme involved in the synthesis of the aromatic amino acids tyrosine, tryptophan and phenylalanine. It is absorbed through foliage and translocated to growing points. Because of this mode of action, it is only effective on actively growing plants; it is not effective as a pre-emergence herbicide. Some crops have been genetically engineered to be resistant to it (i.e. Roundup Ready, also created by Monsanto Company). Such crops allow farmers to use glyphosate as a post-emergence herbicide against both broadleaf and cereal weeds…

            Sure, spraying Roundup on your Roundup-ready crops is a good thing. I’m sure you weren’t aware that 2 of those 3 are essential amino acids for human growth. Why would anyone use anything that prohibits the production of those amino acids? But I suppose you could tell me that?

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            I know how Roundup and Roundup Ready crops work since I’ve grown them for years, thank you very much. Would you rather have low quality grain because weeds have overtaken the crops and caused them to die and rot? Tell me how they are harmful and what proof you have of it, you’ve never said. Basically your argument here is they sound scary to you and people shouldn’t consume them because you are ignorant.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            Yep, I bet you do. Which is why you’re here, advocating for them.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            Yes, I actually know them which makes me more of an expert than some random internet user that read a couple of articles on conspiracy theory websites.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)
          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            lol, you realize that those articles are citing the Seralini study that was widely discredited and debunked and even say so within the article? I don’t know how many times I’ve had to point that out to you anti-GMO people, I didn’t even really have to click on them to know it was going to be the Seralini study. That’s how predictable you guys are.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            That last I agree, did cite that study. What about the other 285 references? Were they all ‘debunked’ too?

            I’d rather be ‘anti-GMO’ than sucking on Monsanto’s teat.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            I’d rather have facts than phony claims to stand on. Using even one debunked reference throws up a red flag about the validity of any of the conclusions of the study.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            Hmm. 286 citations, in the paper in the last link, and only one of them you said was debunked, but you cannot provide a link to the article that debunks it.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            I haven’t researched them all, no, but I do know that the people who wrote that paper are capable of promoting faulty evidence as fact. That is really all I need to know.

          • chesterarthur

            No hostility to you,but keep an eye out for cancer in previously healthy people around fields where roundup is used.I don’t know if they’ve changed the formulation recently .I’ve been seeing cancer crop up in farm workers,family and friends,in just a few years after starting to use the stuff.It’s nobody’s business but yours if you want to use it,but I’ve seen a lot of it very recently,and caution may be a good idea.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            It’s the surfectant, one of the adjuvents in Roundup that seems to be the issue.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            It could be chemicals which is why you have to be careful around them and wear the proper safety equipment when handling them which a lot of farmers fail to do. It’s nothing new and people have known the risks of them for years. My state offers applicator’s training which teaches how to properly handle them.

          • KayGee

            Well now, it would appear you’re aware of the dangers posed by handling roundup and other chemicals that are used more frequently in crops with resistant genes. If you have to wear protective gear to handle them and apply them to the crops, which as you know, have roots that suck water, nutrients, and whatever else out of the soil around them, what makes you think you can just magically wash them off the plant when it’s time to harvest and eat them?

          • KayGee

            You do understand that those “amino acids” are actually the building blocks of proteins. Think of proteins as the machinery of your cells, just as complex as any tractor, truck, or combine harvester that you might use. If you were to occasionally take a wrench (roundup) and accidentally disable a few of the parts (amino acids) necessary to build and power your trucks and tractors (proteins), what do you suppose would happen to them when your try to run them?

          • AMSilver

            And organic farmers choose crops that naturally produce the most poison to deter bugs and fungii. But apparantly because scientists did one in the lab and the other…. well, probably a lab too, but possibly a farm and either way with far less precision… the former is scary and the latter is peachy.

          • chesterarthur

            Lots of things fool you,I’d wager.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            Not anti-GMO nonsense.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            I don’t see you offering up any links that prove otherwise. Monsanto’s website doesn’t count.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            This is probably the best summation of the phony GMO scare I’ve seen, make sure to read to the end:

            http://www.troymedia.com/2013/03/06/the-junk-science-clowns-behind-the-gmo-scare/

    • kate_middleton

      I completely agree. This is not a political issue at all.

      I wish Twitchy would stop pretending it is.

      • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

        If you don’t think the fact that these people trying to get the government to control/ban certain foods isn’t about politics then you are horribly naive.

        • kate_middleton

          I don’t think anything should be banned. But this is not a left/right issue. There are plenty of people on the right that don’t think GMOs are a great idea.

          If you read Twitchy’s coverage (and not the comments), you’d think all Republicans are all for GMOs. Not true.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            It is an issue of the left, they want the government to control the food supply so they are making false unsubstantiated claims about GMOs. There is not one shred of evidence they do any harm. Not. One. And yes, I realize there are a few conservatives that have bought into it and it saddens me that they are so gullible.

          • http://www.coreyspofford.com/ YEROCDROFFOPS

            LOLLL Not 1 shred of evidence… That’s like taking the Tobacco company studies and saying there’s no harm in smoking…

            Additionally why would the FDA or any Government entity suggest we stop using or even label them when the Administration is stacked with former Monsanto Employees.. http://rense.com/general33/fd.htm

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            As I said there is not one shred of evidence and no one has been hurt by GMOs. You can throw all the non-sequitars like tobacco at me all you want, there is no proof besides dumbass fear-mongering rooted in Alex Jones logic.

          • Yoshi

            Actually if you live where I do you would see evidence. I moved from upstate SC to the Lower state and I have never seen so many ppl die of cancer in one area like I do now. This area is full of farming and to make money everybody has switched to GMO crops. My father in law is a farmer and believes in using GMO crops although he has seen evidence its not the most healthiest choice, but his logic is he rather not allow ppl to die of starvation…. Ignores the cancer issue in our area. There is less bee’s in our area and we are not able to make as much honey as we have before… I am a conservative and can care less what ppl put in their bodies, but don’t force me to eat the same crap as everyone else. I just want a choice, just like I have a choice to smoke or drink…
            Ben why is it such a big “POLITICAL” issue to you? And why does it matter if Conservatives and whatever other political affiliation agree? Its food, sheesh!
            I much rather eat the original design from my maker rather eat what ppl design… What is so wrong about that?
            Hey and if we are wrong about GMO’s hell whoever profits off of us paying an extra buck for food, let it be his gain… At least it made us feel better…

          • http://www.greenvilledragnet.com/ RobTaylor

            Are you kidding? The example you use of the farmers dying after switching to GMOs would mean that handling the vegetables caused cancer. Explain how this works.

            I garden with heirloom seeds and all of them have been modified by man. You do not eat any plant that is in it’s original form because farming and gardening is based on selective breeding to create new, more productive, hardier versions. That’s why we have golden yellow corn in our stores rather than maize.

          • Yoshi

            I never said the handling of crops caused cancer. The eating silly. Kinda what we are talking about buddy. What you put in your body… You know the topic we are all talking about. I didn’t know we had to specify the every detail of what we do with the crops farmers sell to the local farmers market. But if handling is the subject you want to talk about the use of pesticides and other chemicals they put on crops does cause cancer, why the use of protective equipment is worn when messing with the chemical
            Btw heirloom means passed down from generations unchanged and stabilized. Lol no means nothing done to it. Modifying something is completely different.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            Which explains part of the reason heirloom seeds are so expensive. You could always pivot that to the ‘organic foods’ market… if you want the ‘good stuff’ you have to pay more for it.

          • AMSilver

            But… but… bees are dying off because of cell phone towers! Now it’s GMOs? Or maybe the cell phone towers are activating an unknown property of the GMO pollen that is killing off the bees… It couldn’t be new diseases or anything like that…….

            The original design from your maker on most foods isn’t that great. Tomatoes are poisonous, corn was insubstantial (http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=104207) and almost nothing like what we’ve got today. All of those ‘original design’ foods you want to eat have undergone thousands of years of modification through various techniques. Additionally, God never said he gave us ‘perfect’ foods. He did say that once Adam and Eve got kicked out of the garden, it was going to be all hard work and difficulties. The idea that we are supposed to use the gifts God has given us to improve our situation in this world is perfectly consistent with scripture and with the scientific fact that humans have improved their food staples through altering the genetics of those foods.

          • Yoshi

            Yes he said it will be hard work , but he also said we need to be of good Steward of what he gave us. So if we destroyed what he originally made, which was perfect. But a lot of the negative stances from some of you ppl are so caught up in the argument that Monsanto isn’t that bad and we are arguing it is and want our food labeled… To me you guys argument is to dictate for what we all need to eat, which is stupid. Our argument is we just want our food labeled and you guys seem to have a problem with that…. Which again stupid.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            Yes, it’s certainly a case for CCD in honeybees.

          • Batman

            Study in a peer-reviewed scientific journal. Now, let’s hear your rebuttal.
            http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691512005637

          • http://www.greenvilledragnet.com/ RobTaylor

            The rebuttal is in the link you provide where the peers who review the study have serious reservations about it’s validity. Specifically see the 2012 paper by Frederich Schorsch which points out that The European Society of Toxicologic Pathology reviewed the study and found it lacking.

            http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691512007880

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            The Seralini study you cited has been widely discredited. The conclusion does not match the results of the research. Besides the testing methods themselves being shoddy the more GMOs the rats were given the less incidence of cancer occurred. It actually does more to prove GMOs are safe despite the conclusion given.

          • http://www.greenvilledragnet.com/ RobTaylor

            Jeff Rense is an anti-Semitic New Ager who doesn’t understand basic science and thinks the world is being controlled by aliens. Using him as a source is like quoting Farrakhan about race relations.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            His illustrator is spot-on, however. http://www.deesillustration.com/index.asp

          • https://twitter.com/SmileyRoffle Smiley

            Wrong, even libertarian candidate Gary Johnson was for GMO labeling during last year’s campaign. The reason why is that what Monsanto does is anti-free market. They are basically lacing the food supply with all of their “patents” (some of them ill-gotten) and using their cronies in Big Government to keep said patents hidden, making it all but impossible for consumers to avoid their GMOs.

            No conservative or libertarian here is asking for more regulations or government control, quite the opposite. The leftists of course want more control, “never let a crisis go to waste”, etc., but what else is new; take it up with them.

          • AMSilver

            I want the government to force business that irradiate their seeds in order to cause mutations that they can then sort through and cross-breed with the original until they come up with a blend they like. Irradiation of the food supply sounds scary. Can I get government to target that one specific technique and no others? Because getting government to choose winners and loosers is one of the basics of good governance.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            I don’t care what Gary Johnson says, I put him in the same tin-foil category as Ron Paul and Alex Jones. You guys ever think there is all this hubbub about GMOs all of a sudden after Obama signed the Monsanto Protection Act because he wants to get rid of Monsanto’s competitors like Dow and Sygenta?

          • milletime810

            twitchy has a right to editorialize however they choose right or left, it has nothing to do with whether or not the readers agree or disagree.

          • kate_middleton

            Of course – they certainly do. But I think it’s misleading to paint this as a left vs. right issue.

            Many Republicans are against GMOs (or for labeling at least), and many Dems side with Monsanto.

            Painting it as a typical political issue with the left on one side and the right on the other is misleading.

          • http://www.greenvilledragnet.com/ RobTaylor

            ALL food you eat is modified. The issue is political because you take the leftist view of a dual choice system of food production where there is some pristine crop that can feed giant, unproductive cities. The left is pushing for limiting food supply to give themselves more power and in a country where 98% of people produce more food this is a disaster in the making.

            If you want more control over your food grow your own, but that would mean giving up the urban liberal lifestyle of doing meaningless work and spending all day glued to a device. So instead you’re demanding the impossible – masses of people who can’t feed themselves be fed with less productive and less resistant crops. You’d get more support if you had a solution that wouldn’t lead to food riots in every major city.

          • kate_middleton

            Please don’t put words into my mouth. I’m not demanding anything. I don’t live an “urban liberal lifestyle.” I don’t take the leftist view on anything – I take my own view.

            And if you read other comments, you’ll see I am absolutely not alone. You can think anyone who disagrees with you is clueless, but try taking a look in the mirror first.

          • Stone Bryson

            I agree, Kate – I don’t want anything banned either. Just a simple label stating that a product is produced with GMOs… I think that is reasonable. In a previous thread I tried to get Ben to make that simple concession, and he refused adamantly. I trust no one who tries to limit the free-flow of valuable information…

          • https://twitter.com/SmileyRoffle Smiley

            Not only is GMO labeling reasonable, it’s free market. You can’t have a credible free market if the consumers don’t trust it, don’t know what they’re even eating, and are unable to avoid GMOs at all.

          • http://www.greenvilledragnet.com/ RobTaylor

            Actually a truly free market would leave it to consumers to know what they were purchasing by informing themselves, not by have a gov’t bureaucracy in charge of giving you information.

          • https://twitter.com/SmileyRoffle Smiley

            Nope. No conservative or libertarian is asking for more big gov regs. What would be nice is if we were allowed to create private enterprises that could vet and properly label our food on our own terms. Products could then opt into these labels created by the free market; if the market favors it, products that opt to carry those labels could see gains. The most trusted labels rise to the top, and related products with it. No one is forced into anything.

            Instead of the above, we are forced into using only the corrupt and useless big gov FDA. That same FDA happens to be currently stocked with Monsanto cronies, and lo and behold, they all swear that GMOs are totally safe. Oh, and they also essentially block GMO labeling, making it so that it’s impossible for consumers to avoid them no matter how hard they try to inform themselves. Sorry, that’s not conservative.

            BTW, I don’t mind most GMOs (although some of them, like the “Roundup” seeds, sound disgusting). But what Monsanto does, sneaking their “patents” around in the food supply with Big Government’s help, is blatantly anti-free market.

          • AMSilver

            That sounds perfectly reasonable, however I’m afraid your ‘no conservative or libertarian is asking for more big gov regs’ statement just isn’t true. I’ve seen lots of conversation on this topic and your post is the first time I’ve heard a free market ‘solution’ proposed. Other posts from conservatives are pretty straight forward in their desire to have government require labeling, etc.

          • digitalPimple

            I’m not agreeing or disagreeing but what is stopping a company who does not use GMO’s from saying that on their labels?

            It that against the law or something now?

          • https://twitter.com/SmileyRoffle Smiley

            Just to be clear, again, no libertarian or conservative is asking for new big government regulations. The problem is that the corrupt FDA has the sole monopoly on what’s healthy to eat, and this same monopoly, currently stocked with Monsanto cronies, happens to tell us that GMOs are perfectly safe and there’s no need to label. Yeah right.

            What would be preferable is to allow free enterprise to create our labeling and offer it to businesses. If it works out for products to gain market share using trusted labels, and it makes consumers that hate GMOs feel better and safer shopping, great for the market. Instead Monsanto is using Big Gov to their advantage and distort not just the market but the food supply itself.

            BTW, companies just declaring themselves “GMO-free” is ridiculous, that has no credibility. That’s like a student grading his own test. Or better yet, Obama asking Holder to investigate the DOJ. Do you know how many companies run scams with the words “organic” or “green”? However, if there was a free market food-labeling organization consumers trust, companies could opt to use it and potentially see results.

            Another point, I have no personal beef with GMOs, but honestly, if they DID start labeling food with GMOs, I’m pretty sure GMO sales would take a hit. Worse yet if they had to specifically label what GMOs are involved. Try selling corn with this label: “GROWN WITH SEEDS THAT CONTAIN GENETIC PESTICIDE”. This is why Monsanto is working with government cronies to prevent GMO labeling among other things.

          • tjp77

            Well, you may as well label every single food product which has ever been produced since, oh, the dawn of the agricultural age, because that’s how long humans have been genetically modifying food.

            Just because it gets done in a lab instead of through selective breeding over several generations doesn’t make one iota of difference in the goal or result.

          • https://twitter.com/SmileyRoffle Smiley

            That explains why Monsanto is raiding farmers over their patents, eh genius? Because you can so easily do “over generations” what can be done in a lab. Clown.

            BTW, tell me what kind of “selective breeding” could possibly result in whole breeds of insects and weeds becoming immune to toxins like Bt practically overnight, resulting in farmers being forced to use sometimes double or even triple the pesticide to deal with pests.

            What’s with the two or three trolls on this thread determined to take bullets for Monsanto at all costs? Are you Monsanto PR flacks or janitors or something?

          • tjp77

            Monsanto has every right to protect their intellectual property. Their business wouldn’t be viable if farmers could simply produce and utilize seeds that Monsanto designed (at great expense) without paying some royalty. Monsanto has a right to profit from their invention, just like every other inventor does.

            But if their product is so bad, why would farmers even use it in the first place? Monsanto must be doing something right, I think.

            And I have no idea how you’re connecting toxin immunity in insects with Monsanto. Insects become immune to poisons all the time; they evolve rapidly, and can develop immunities within three or four generations. This is a fact. It has nothing to do with what they eat. You should pick up a science book sometime and try to learn a few things.

          • https://twitter.com/SmileyRoffle Smiley

            Are you this dense, idiot? First of all, the situation with Bt and insects/weeds becoming suddenly immune to modern pesticides is a real documented problem, that’s how I “connected” it. So much that Monsanto could possibly be on the hook for real liability. Instead of a science book, how about a newspaper?

            http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-04/-mounting-evidence-of-bug-resistant-corn-seen-by-epa.html

            Secondly, let’s follow your moronic logic. First you said “No need to label GMOs, anybody with time on their hands can just grow them”. Now you’re saying “Monsanto spent a lot of money DESIGNING THOSE SEEDS.” Didn’t you just say anybody can just grow them? If those seeds are so special, why can’t we label the food using them?

            You are either a flack or just plain f****ing stupid.

          • tjp77

            Your stupidity is genuinely painful.

            First off, all you’ve demonstrated is that insects are adapting to a certain kind of pest control. Which is what insects do, and what they’ve literally always done. This is why new pesticides are developed in the first place; because insects adapt rapidly. Their short lifespans and massive numbers mean that the evolutionary process happens at an extremely fast rate. It has nothing to do with Monsanto.

            Now, if Monsanto’s product didn’t perform as advertised, then they’re on the hook for damages, sure. But if the issue is that insects evolved beyond the technology that the plants utilize… well, that’s just evolution at work. Can I sue the makers of ‘OFF’ because I got a mosquito bite? Nope.

            And no, there is indeed no need to label GMO’s because LITERALLY EVERY FOOD PRODUCT SINCE THE DAWN OF AGRICULTURE HAS BEEN GENETICALLY MODIFIED. This is also a fact. Monsanto just has a highly refined and precise technique — but they are not doing anything essentially different than what has been done for thousands of years by millions of people.

            And this is the business Monsanto is in; to develop new strains of plants. As a business, they have EVERY RIGHT to protect their intellectual property. If you yourself develop a tomato that is resistent to insects or whatever through cross-breeding over the course of a year or five, then you have EVERY RIGHT to patent that formula and sell it also, and you’d be entitled to the exact same protections that Monsanto seeks for itself.

            This is basic free enterprise 101 here. You invent something, you get to profit from it. Period.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            The insects are ‘adapting’ alright. They are dying. Especially the pollinators. It’s another push to become a Monsanto-minion. Crops fail? It’s the seed you used, not because there weren’t enough insects to pollinate. Feel free to explain to me the causes of CCD.

          • GaryTheBrave

            I sure wish that insects would evolve to bounce off windshields rather than splatter.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            You forget about the Round-up resistant weeds, i.e. “pigweed”, that has become severely invasive the last few years. Not to mention, Round-up is labeled as ‘bio-degradable’. It’s not, it actually remains in the soil upwards of 37 years or longer.

          • Randy W

            Hybrid and GMO’s are 2 entirely different things.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            Hybridization is not GMO. Hybridization is still within the natural course of things. GMO is not.

          • Gallatin

            Already being done, I’ve seen food labeled Non GMO in the store. Of course it is always more expensive so I choose the cheaper and probably GMO alternative next to it.

          • digitalPimple

            So whats the problem??? You guys are making no sense what so ever. Sorry.

          • Gallatin

            I hope you’re not lumping me in with the anti Monsanto crowd on this post. If you look at my other comments you’ll see that I’m on your side. I was pointing out that what you ask above about companies labeling products “Non GMO” exists already. Of course I read a post somewhere on here by an “anti” who said that if companies start labeling their products “Non GMO” that it will just be a Monsanto driven sleight of hand.

          • digitalPimple

            No if it comes off that way I apologize. mainly speaking out loud.

          • digitalPimple

            No. You can not MAKE a company label a product without knowing why you are labeling it. The assumption is that GMO is dangerous and there is zero proof of that. That is using the government to force your agenda on someone you disagree with and THAT is wrong.

            There is nothing wrong, however, with another company exploiting this by offering GMO free products and labeling them as such. If this was such a big issue then the market will push out the GMO’s.

            That’s the free market my friend.

          • AMSilver

            It’s not reasonable because there’s absolutely no suggestion anywhere of applying labeling standards equally across all businesses. No one is saying we should label how the seeds that make the crops we’re eaten have gotten to the point they have. That would include options like cross-breeding with potentially poisonous distant relations or irradiation of plants to hopefully produce some useful mutation (and lots of unknown mutations in the process). Instead, government is targeting one technique because a bunch of environmentalists have whipped up an anti-technology scare about it, and Europe has decided to join in on the frenzy in order to keep US agriculture from competing with local farmers.

          • Stone Bryson

            Well put spacetime, I agree completely. Too bad our (normally astute) fellow ‘free-marketers’ cannot grasp that very simple concept….

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            Exactly. I purchase food based on what’s in it. I try and stay away from HFCS and I never buy anything with aspartame/acesulfame potassium; I don’t use a microwave either, because, you know, food can’t withstand the speed at which they are being ‘frictionated’ (new word!) and maintain nutritional content. Microwaves also produce a lot of free-radicals, which are precursors for cancers.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            The free market solution is for you people to buy organic food which most growers already label, not to get the government to force everyone else to label theirs. Let’s not pretend this is about the free market when what you guys are advocating is more government.

          • tjp77

            Anyone who isn’t for GMO’s is hopelessly ignorant, and at least tangentially responsible for the deaths of millions of people from starvation and malnourishment around the world.

            GMO’s are literally the ONLY way to feed our global population. Hell, the only reason we have enough to eat in the USA alone is due to GMOs. Wake up. You’re alive because of it.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            And you’re probably riddled with disease, as well: IBS, Crohn’s, Celiac’s disease, diabetes, Fibro-myalgia, Candida, chronic inflammation; the list goes on. I’m glad to note that with the introduction of such ‘safe’ foods the instances of such diseases has gone down. I’m also glad that the instances of food allergies has also decreased. Oh wait…. can’t have the PB&J? Sorry.

    • digitalPimple

      Alex Jones is a hard nut. The Left are all hard nuts.
      Twitchy … Highlighting a meeting of the hard nuts.

  • Jo Post

    Sorry, I’m with them. GMO is dangerous to everyone who eats it. Yes, its great to have all this new food, but what do the changes do to us? Grow real food without playing with its DNA.

    • Hiraghm

      Yeah, well, are you going to be the one who picks the individuals who die from starvation and disease when we go back to growing “real food”?

    • kate_middleton

      The genetic modification was done with good intentions – to increase the food supply and fight worldwide hunger.

      But I agree with you, we can’t be sure of the impact this has had on our lives. And for people to pretend like genetically modifying food has no downside – well, that’s just naive.

      • TocksNedlog

        There are some who would say that automatically assuming that there MUST be a human health downside is a pessimistic display, entirely devoid of facts.

        • kate_middleton

          Seriously? I’d say that assuming that genetically modified food, which has largely been done over the past 50 years, has absolutely no downside is completely naive.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            So has TV, microwaves, cell phones, the internet, computers. People like you wanted to see a problem so you created one. Basically this comes down to that you don’t like Monsanto.

          • kate_middleton

            Stop trolling.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            I have a different opinion than you, I’m not trolling. You have also posted in this thread more than I have, you are closer to a troll than I am.

          • http://www.greenvilledragnet.com/ RobTaylor

            He’s not trolling he’s right. The Internet can be proven to be involved in more deaths and mayhem than GMOS (flash mobs, rapes, child porn rings, jihadism) but there’s no protests to clean up the web from you.

          • TocksNedlog

            Absolutism is for liberals.
            For instance, believing — without any substantive evidence whatsoever — that there MUST be a downside to GMOs.

      • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

        “But I agree with you, we can’t be sure of the impact this has had on our lives.”

        Said every liberal environmentalist/fear-monger/concern troll ever, and you people want to claim this isn’t about politics or liberalism?

        • kate_middleton

          Dude, screw off. You’re entitled to your opinion, and I’m entitled to mine.

          I believe the dramatic increases in obesity and chronic illnesses over the last 50-60 years is absolutely influenced by genetically modified foods, especially wheat, which was changed dramatically around the 50s to increase wheat crop yield to fight hunger. A noble cause, but not without consequences.

          Don’t talk to me like I’m an idiot.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            People are obese because they don’t do anything but eat and sit in front of the computer/TV all day. And there were just as many chronic illnesses years ago as there are now, even more back then. Our life expectancy has gone up, not down. This isn’t rocket science. You have been listening to the fear-mongers in the media who gin up support for more regs and government control.

          • GrindingMills

            A few issues here. First of all, I try to eat naturally as much as possible, and it’s not because I’m a leftist tree hugger (and I’m not), but because having man-made chemicals in my body doesn’t seem like a good idea when it’s not necessary.

            In regards to life expectancy increases in the US, don’t you think that it has more to do with advances in medicine than food production? If you can argue against that, kudos to you.

          • http://www.greenvilledragnet.com/ RobTaylor

            Proper nutrition has more to do with good health than medicine. Medical advances come into play after someone is ill, but we are generally healthier because of our nutrition.

          • GrindingMills

            I understand your point, but people are more likely to die from being ill than malnourishment, and therefore people are more likely to live longer from not getting ill.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            No, I don’t think so. I often remark how strange it is I hear about so many children that are allergic to peanuts, or tree nuts. As far as I can remember, in my little remote Chicago suburb, there were NO kids that were ever allergic to peanuts, or peanut products. We never had children collapsing on their desks from anaphylactic shock from accidentally ingesting a peanut.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            Oh well that solves it! Not. Believe it or not just because you see something happen more does not mean GMOs have anything to do with it. That isn’t science, that is wild speculation.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            Oh, my pardon I wasn’t clearer. Anecdotal evidence, I believe it’s called, does play a part in noticing an upward/downward trend of certain situations and/or events. I’m not the only one that’s noticed it, or commented on it. I see a lot of people, everyday, and have in the past… (you probably don’t get out much, being a farmer and all.)

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            I’m saying we shouldn’t pass laws based on anecdotal evidence, I think that is pretty logical

          • Guest

            I’m concerned with the “brain” disorders, like Alzheimer’s and Autism. We know it’s environmental, but from what? Not accusing cause I don’t know, but It bears looking into.

          • http://www.coreyspofford.com/ YEROCDROFFOPS

            Consumption of Aluminum, Barium and Strontium ‘might’ have something to do with it

            http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/htm/303.html

          • Guest

            I have heard of that for quite awhile as possible culprits.

          • Guest

            Also, in regards to Alzheimer’s, wondered if the uranium they put in dish and cookware back in the day had an effect., i.e., Depression glass, Fiesta Ware and Jadeite, three I know of, and almost everybody had some.

          • Stone Bryson

            You’re wasting your time trying to communicate with Ben, Kate. He’s farmed for a few years (as such he has a vested interest in Monsanto), thus he thinks he’s a supreme expert, knowing more than anyone who disagrees with him. I pity him – he’s such a true believer in the holy GMO he is incapable of thinking outside his rigidly-built little brain box… like a child being told Santa Claus isn’t real, he throws tantrums when someone speaks up. He tries to lump everyone who disagrees with him in with Alex Jones, because critical thinking without simplistic labels is very difficult for Ben.

            People like Ben – along with whoever it is at Twitchy who has a mad-on for Monsanto – is the reason I seldom visit this site anymore. They’ve become as bad as the ‘the debate is over’ climate change believers, ignoring (and ridiculing) questions about the validity of their stands. Rational minded conservatives and libertarians with genuine concerns find out exactly how welcome they are here when Monsanto comes up.

          • kate_middleton

            Well said, Stone.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            Yeah, apparently I’m the irrational one because I’m not running around like Chicken Little telling everyone GMOs are the devil even though they are the most tested food source in the world yet there is still no evidence that they do any harm. Silly me.

          • Stone Bryson

            Hm… so you mention ‘running around.’ Tell me Ben, how many posts have you made on this very story? How many posts have you made on previous pro-Monsanto stories here on Twitchy? Dozens? Hundreds? I don’t know, but I’m hardly the one ‘running around’ in a panic mode. That would be… wait for it… you!

            Gotta protect your bottom line, eh?

            Furthermore, you can blather all you want about ‘no proof’ but we both know otherwise. I have, in previous posts, stated my position (with examples), and have allowed you to answer. You never once actually address my points, you merely use the political tactic of misdirection and pivoting… just like you did here. Therefore I am done addressing you directly; there is no point to it, because you are either unwilling to – or incapable of – listening to others with an active mind.

          • http://www.greenvilledragnet.com/ RobTaylor

            So increases in obesity have nothing to do with a more sedentary population who spends their time online or watching tv instead of hunting, fishing, camping etc?

          • tjp77

            You clearly are an idiot though.

      • Gallatin

        “we can’t be sure of the impact this has had on our lives.”

        Longer healthier lives maybe?

      • AlmaAlma

        Food is complex and so are our bodies. They can’t possibly tell us that they know 100% for sure that altering food doesn’t cause problems.

        I trust God’s garden over man’s manipulation.

    • AaronHarrisinAlaska

      Just about every single piece of produce you eat, be it corn or mangos, have been genetically modified. Yes, even if you buy the seeds its likely still a GMO plant. The very reason we have such large crop yields is due to genetic modifications in plants to produce more harvests than we’ve ever had before. While I agree Monsanto is a perfect example of soulless capitalism that we should all hate, I’d like to see your evidence backing up the claim the GMO is bad for you

    • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

      There is not one ounce of evidence to support that they do any harm. Not. One. People like you need to realize that you have been listening to fear mongers trying to gin up support so the government can control our food supply. Every thing you have heard about them being dangerous is a flat out lie.

      • Randy W

        I thought the problems with GMO’s are still unknown, because the effects could hit a generation or two later.

        • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

          Yeah, that is the type of nonsense they want you to believe. That is by-the-book fear-mongering. No proof, just scare tactics.

        • TocksNedlog

          There is no such thing as an ‘unknown problem’.

          • Randy W

            OK. more precise: unintended consequences

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            no proof.

          • Randy W

            I don’t need proof of a negative. The burden isn’t on skeptics to prove anything. Food is being modified, future consequences can’t be know until, you know, the future. You can follow blindly or start questioning information spoon fed to you. I would prefer natural foods, and if they are GMO, I want that on a label. Not really that difficult.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            GMOs have been around for decades and are the most heavily tested food source in the world, if there were anything harmful wouldn’t we know by now? How long are we supposed to live in fear of this ominous ‘future’ without any proof whatsoever? And actually the burden of proof is on skeptics if you are making unsubstantiated claims that have been proven false time and again.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            Yes. Just like we know how dangerous fluoride can be. You still brush your teeth, do you not?

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            Yes, you need to get your news from somewhere other than Infowars.

          • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

            Not to Democrats. They have binders full of unknown problems.

          • TocksNedlog

            True.

        • chewydog

          Later…like globull worming.

        • tjp77

          Just like how ‘climate change’ is an urgent problem that needs to be fixed NOW NOW NOW NOW even though we won’t actually see any adverse effects for a generation or two, right? But trust us, it’s a HUGE problem and the world is going to end.

          • Randy W

            …. seriously tjp77? What does one have to do with the other? Monsanto is monkeying around with the genetics of the food we eat.

            I don’t like people telling me “here’s your food, eat it”. Is it difficult to give people a choice in what they eat? I don’t get the Monsanto cheer leading at all. Why do I give a F about Monsanto and their goals?

      • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

        What do you think the Monsanto Protection Act is?

        • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

          Monsanto protecting their copyright. There is nothing wrong with GMOs

    • Dencal26

      There is no evidence that GMO is dangerous

    • Gallatin

      “Grow real food without playing with its DNA.”

      You get busy with that and let me know how it works out for you.

    • gekkobear

      “Grow real food without playing with its DNA.”

      So we can feed how many? Maybe 1 billion people… and 6 billion need to starve to death… for the health of humanity.

      What does a plan that requires billions of humans to starve needlessly do to us?

      Is 6 billion people slowly starving to death an “unintended consequence”, or the real goal here?

      • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

        Regardless, plentiful, but nutritionally empty food still reaches the same conclusion. 6 billion ‘starving’.

    • http://www.greenvilledragnet.com/ RobTaylor

      Do you grow food? Do you grow enough to feed the families around you?

    • AlmaAlma

      Me too. I remember reading about the Dutch altering the colour of carrots to orange as they were originally a purple and white – and ultimately when you compared the original and the new version, there was one nutrient missing. To me God got it right and there is no point %$*& around with food. It is our medicine.

    • tjp77

      You’d better stop eating then, because I can guarantee that you’ve never in your entire life eaten a single thing that hasn’t been genetically modified by humans at some point.

  • Chip

    Oh LOOK! It’s the girl that ruined Buffy!!!

  • AaronHarrisinAlaska

    I’ll sum up my opinion about this particular twitchy post in two words: fuck Monsanto.

  • therain

    who?

  • Clayton Grant

    GM foods should be required by law to be labeled as such. Then, the consumer can decide. Why would the Senate be against this?
    .

    WASHINGTON — The Senate on Thursday (23 May 2013) overwhelmingly rejected an amendment that would allow states to require labeling of genetically modified foods.

    Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt, said his amendment was an attempt to clarify that states can require the labels, as several legislatures have moved toward putting such laws into place. Both the Vermont House and Connecticut Senate voted this month to make food companies declare genetically modified ingredients on their packages.

    The Senate rejected the amendment on a 71-27 vote during debate on a wide-ranging, five-year farm bill that includes generous supports for crops like corn and soybeans that often are genetically modified varieties.

    • AaronHarrisinAlaska

      Then just about every single consumable product would have to be labeled.

      • Clayton Grant

        Yes, they would, but a simple double helix emblem would be sufficient.

    • Adela Wagner

      I’m a staunch Conserv. Libertarian and VERY against Monsanto. Been around that block numerous times here on Twitchy and other places. I am a small grower who is not certified organic but that is how I roll.
      Even if I was unaware of what Monsanto was all about and their thuggery, the fact that Obama signed the “Monsanto Protection Act” would make me know there was something wrong with this company and that I should be doing my own research if I was questioning whether I should be eating this stuff.

      And I agree that THERE should indeed be labeling, when my children were small and it was up to me to feed them, I wanted to know everything that was going in their mouths was healthy. I just cannot get on board with food that has pesticide genetically built in. (these ARE NOT Hybrid plants we’re talking about, these are GENETICALLY “MODIFIED” plants)

      It’s a health issue with me more than anything else.

      • tjp77

        You do realize that even the foods you grow yourself have been genetically modified at some point? That literally everything we currently recognize as a fruit or vegetable has been modified from its natural state?

        • Adela Wagner

          Nope. Most of what I grow are heirloom varieties. Seed saved for generations. I am a fan of Thomas Jefferson and what he did for gardening in this country. I have numerous seeds that I get from Monticello.org that are descendent from the plants he grew. I do have some hybrid varieties I grow, but cross pollinating is NOT the same as GENETICALLY MODIFYING by tissue and introducing NON-plant organisms into a plant.
          Of course there has been natural evolution of plants, they can grow hardier after a few colder winters,bolt to seed faster one year because of a warmer summer, become leggier or paler in color due to not enough sunlight etc. but acclimating naturally is not what is being discussed here.

          So tell me again how what I am growing has been GM’d?

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            Exactly, my friend. EXACTLY!

  • trixiewoobeans

    Three big Monsanto supporters…Obama, Bill and Hilary Clinton. I pointed that out to some Libs and their heads nearly exploded, they’re trying to hang it all on Clarence Thomas. I don’t like it.

    • PatriototicFirestorm

      Looks like you can add Michelle Malkin to that list.

    • kate_middleton

      Yep. Like I said above (and got blasted for) – this is not a left/right issue. And Twitchy should stop pretending it is.

      • trixiewoobeans

        Yes, I know just as many Conservatives who hate it. Bad is bad, no matter what side of the fence you’re on.

  • jashan2

    I am a Conservative and I HATE Monsanto. I am constantly frustrated by other Conservatives who think it’s horrible for the government to be involved in certain aspects of our lives, but ok for them to tell us what’s “safe” to eat. They (R’s AND D’s) are totally in bed with Monsanto, who bullies farmers by forcing them to buy new seeds every year and sues them out of existence because of seed patents and “theft” when the seeds drift onto their land from neighboring farms. Meanwhile the government allows Monsanto to police itself and conduct it’s own safety studies… Sounds like the DOJ and IRS to me.

    Just because: “CAPITALISM!!!!” doesn’t mean this company is a good or even halfway ethical one. Look at some of the recent studies coming out about the safety of GMO corn and soy and see if you really want to feed that poisonous garbage to your kids. And why follow along like lemmings in some areas but not others? Liberals aren’t ALL stupid, and you can bet there is a very good reason they’re feeding their kids organic food. I think there’s a lot of common ground we can find IF we stop the knee-jerk reactions to them – like this one.

  • Joe Hundley

    Im against the left in almost every thing, but how does it hurt to label products? We have a right to know what we eat.

  • Garrett

    There’s some real funny business going on with Monsanto. I am very much in favor of labeling. Why not know what we are eating? I would eat GMOs anyway, but I’d like to have the choice. This is an issue both sides should agree on.

    • moonsbreath

      They don’t want to label it because no one would eat food with estrogen in it.

      • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

        Estrogen (well, dietary estrogen which is close enough in structure to regular estrogen) is in a lot of things naturally.

        Highest level sources: Flax seed (& other oil seeds) + Soy & tofu

        You really think no one eats food with estrogen in it?

        • moonsbreath

          Since you’re asking, do you know how much estrogen (from soy & tofu) are in our (American) food supply? As I stated previously, there are a lot of problems created for women with an over abundance of estrogen which can lead to a rise in cancer and infertility. In men, too much estrogen in food can also lead to infertility, testosterone imbalance, and also cancers.
          Another question, do you even know how much estrogen you consume in a day, week or month?
          Decades ago, human hormones or antibiotics were not in our food supply. Now, most of our food supply is tampered with, one way or another. We can’t say for sure nothing will happen with all these GMO foods; however, I can say for sure nothing happened to us when they weren’t in them.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            My point is…

            Estrogen (or its cousins) are likely NOT the sole source of problems you are talking about.

            There are generations of people who have eaten significant amounts of dietary estrogen their entire lives and do not have significantly higher rates of cancer, infertility, etc. However, I will cede the point that the types of cancers that trend in those gene pools are generally different than in the USA, so there may be some affect; though, generally, those gene pools are much more homogeneous than this melting pot of ‘Merica, so the compare/contrast doesn’t hold as strongly.

            There are just too many factors involved to blame just the food.

            Aside: Banging my head against this desk CAN lead to a deadly hematoma. Am I allowed to blame you for making it likely I will do it?

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            And the BPA in plastics? Plastic containers that ‘outgas’ the BPA into whatever is in them? I know BPA-free is offered, but something had to happen for a call to come to ban BPA.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            This was the original comment to which I was responding:

            “They don’t want to label it because no one would eat food with estrogen in it.” -moonsbreath

            My points were all limited to the discussion of estrogen and its cousins in foods and any affects that come from their ingestion. Though, further widening of topic by moonsbreath made me make a broader point regarding cause and effect + blame.

            I was making a narrow point on purpose. That, apparently, gets lost in the butthurt-flail-reactions sometimes.

  • Ookook Eekeek

    “conspiracy kook”?… so the Monsanto Protection Act is a conspiracy? what a dumbass

  • RememberSekhmet

    I have friends on both sides of the issue, and can see both sides. One thing I think people don’t understand about the “terminator” gene is that many agricultural “weeds” are actually the undesirable wild relatives of the desired crops. This is especially true of crops grown in the part of the world where they were first domesticated. It does no good to, say, breed Roundup resistance in a grain crop, only to have that resistance conveyed to the wild grasses from cross-pollination.

  • Me

    Sorry! I’m totally against GMO foods. Have you looked at the actual research on the nutritional content of GMO foods? There would be plenty of food to feed the entire world if farmers were left to be farmers and not paid to NOT use their land or to use it for ethanol producing crops! Follow the MONEY!

    • TocksNedlog

      And the connection between GMO foods and farm subsidies is WHAT?

    • James Perley

      Me, We farm. It has been years since grain farmers were paid not to grow crops. Ground was idled to stabilize the farm economy to keep farmers in business when prices were too low. Unlike other industries, farmers don’t set their prices. Now, the world demand is maintaining prices.

      There is no connection between farm subsidies and GMO crops. Ethanol may not be the best choice, but it does save our oil bill, and it reduces green house emissions.

      Escaping Roundup tolerance is a danger which is already being realized. Farmers plant conventional crops around the GMO insect killing crops as a rufuge to slow the spread of resistance.

      • ken mcmullin

        It takes 1.5 gallons of fossil fuel to grow and transport to market 1 gallon of biofuel, so please explain how that helps our “oil bill.” Also biofuels pollute more that fossil fuels, so please explain how that helps “green house emissions” which is a hoax term anyway. Also the CRP program has not been terminated, and it’s purpose was to buy farmer’s votes with my money, not to keep farmers in business. BTW, businesses don’t set their prices – the market does, unless you are a crony business, like a farmer.

    • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

      lol, paid not to use our land? CRP is for crappy ground that doesn’t raise a crop anyway and only amounts to a few acres, you don’t make any money by not growing anything. Before GMOs farmers could only feed 20-30 people, but now it is 155 people. If you don’t think GMOs make a difference then you are only fooling yourself. And I have looked at the actual research, GMOs have better nutritional value than non-GMOs.

      • ken mcmullin

        I have actually looked at CRP land, it was a huge amount of acreage, and it was in a fertile area with fertile soil.

        • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

          That’s dumb though on the farmer’s part because CRP pays nowhere even close to what you would make growing a crop on it. I have a feeling there is a reason you are not saying.

          • Yoshi

            How do you know if growing crops pay more? If you know anything about crops then you would know crops are like stocks, it goes up and goes down… Depending on many factors… Dude as someone whose father in law worked in crop stocks and sells, and grows crops know more than you do. Stop trolling and accept that its ok for ppl to want what’s best for themselves. Stop trying to dictate what best for all and humanity. How bout you continue shoving that crap down your throat and support it as best as you can. Leave others to have a choice in not putting it in their body… You got problems, you have control issues lol!

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            I’m a farmer and you always make more farming ground on good soil even if you have a bad year over a ten year period. CRP pays less than you would just to rent farm ground. And no you stop it. I am tired of Chicken Littles like you with no facts dictating and whining about things that aren’t true while trying to destroy my livelihood. Why do you need a label when you know all the food in the store is GMOs? Organic growers label their food so go buy them instead, how is this hard to figure out?

          • Yoshi

            You do know chicken little was right right!?! Lol man you are a hoot! You are no farmer lol most time farmers plant crops and you are lucky to just break even! Look in the end you think you are right and you continue living your life…. Continue eating the crap it’s your life, glad you can’t dictate mine… Btw not all food in stores contain GMO. Lol and trying to destroy your livelihood? I promise labeling will not prevent farmers from farming lol dude u r funny!

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            lol If you break even farming then you aren’t a very good farmer or businessman for that matter. You also won’t be farming for long. You crack me up.

            Labeling gives the false impression that there is something wrong with GMOs even though there isn’t so people will buy less of them therefore destroying the industry. It won’t hurt the big companies like Monsanto, it will hurt the little farmers like me.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            Farmers also sell ahead… they get their loans based off of what they WILL grow, not what they HAVE grown. I wonder what happens to the poor farmer that can’t make their crop after a few years?

  • Yoshi

    I feel this is not a political issue, more of a preference. A couple of years back a guy claiming he worked for the government came knocking at my grandfather’s house and neighbors telling them they had to take down their fruit trees and replace them with GMO trees…. Why would they do that!?! Well my grandfather didn’t know any better and did. Well lets just say the trees are not better than the last ones.
    I’m a firm conservative and agree Monsanto is bad news. Hamsters showing signs of infertility after 2nd generation. Um no thanks, not for me and my kids. God made things the way they are, it’s not right to mess with his perfect creation! I rather grow and eat what hadn’t been tampered with.
    Like I said I should choose and allowed to be informed about what I put in my body and my family.

    • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

      As I said above, if you think scare tactics in order to get the government to control our food supply are not political then you are horribly misled. And there is not one piece of credible evidence to show GMOs harm humans, nothing. However bad anyone thinks Monsanto is, I guarantee the government being in charge of the food supply will be a million times worse.

      • ken mcmullin

        Sounds to me as if Monsanto is already in bed with the government. So I am getting ready for “a million times worse.”

        • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

          Monsanto has competition from other companies like Dow and Syngenta, attacking GMOs means also attacking their competition. Ever think there is all this hubbub AFTER Obama signed the Monsanto Protection Act because he wants to eliminate their competition?

          • GrindingMills

            Can you tell me why it’s a good idea for Congress to pass, and the President to sign, a bill called the Monsanto Protection Act? That’s basically a 50’x50′ red flag on a 200′ pole.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            It’s not, that’s why I’m saying that it sounds like Obama is trying to eliminate Monsanto’s competition by protecting only them and not their competition. I don’t like Monsanto’s business practices and bullying any more than anyone else, that is why I think they should have more competition.

          • GrindingMills

            So you spend this entire thread defending Monsanto and telling everyone that #marchagainstmonsanto is some occupier garbage, but then say they need more competition? I’ve got an easy solution, why don’t we put a GMO tag on their products to induce competition, instead of blinding defending them because “it’s the conservative thing to do”

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            I’m defending GMOs, not specifically Monsanto. Believe it or not I can like a product without liking the company’s thug tactics. Things don’t need labels unless they’ve been proven dangerous and GMOs haven’t. But if you need to know which foods you buy are GMOs I will help you: they all are.

          • GrindingMills

            That’s like liberals who say they love Obama, but they really aren’t into this whole corruption thing.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            Nice try, but that logic doesn’t work on me especially when you guys are trying to get the government to control the food industry.

          • GrindingMills

            I’m advocating for individual choice.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            You’re not, you are advocating for government to give into phony claims and put more regulations on the industry.

          • GrindingMills

            What’s wrong with a label that says GMO? Theres no consumer choice if there is no label that tells the consumer what it is.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            Because most organic farmers label their food already so if you want organic you can buy that. This isn’t about free choice, it is about the government forcing growers to put a warning label that drives consumers away from a product even though there is nothing wrong with it.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            Ah yes. Dow and their lovely turf management chemical line: Imprelis. It will save your turf… but kill your trees.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            Yeah, I hope you know that you sound like an environmental wacko. All chemicals have their side effects, that is why you have to be a good steward and follow the directions. That is why people like me have to go through training in order to properly use them. Maybe just maybe do a little research instead of crying bloody murder at everything that sounds scary.

  • Victim O Circumstance

    That “It’s a planet not an empire sign” says “Stick ya GM seeds where the sun don’t shine.”

    Isn’t that what you do with seeds (plant ’em)?

    Just sayin’

  • Ronald Green

    Monsanto started out making the weed killer “RoundUp’. They then got into GMO seed production to produce corn, soybean, cotton, and alfalfa ( used as cattle feed ) that would be resistant to ‘RoundUp’ so the farmer could spray their weed killer on everything and the GMO stuff would survive. As more research is being done it is becoming apparent that the GMO process created some other side effects that Monsanto doesn’t want people to know about. Hence their push to get a law passed to shield them from law suits over their GMO crops. Those side effects are primarily health related issues in cattle and humans. Much more research is needed to make GMO foods completely safe and they have come up with a strain of corn that is very drought resistant which is very desirable. But until we know what other side effects there might be, is it wise to trust our entire food production to a corporation who’s primary goal is to make money?

    • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

      Where is the proof of any of this? Having a theory doesn’t make it true. There isn’t any evidence whatsoever that GMOs harm humans. All of this is conspiracy nonsense.

      • Ronald Green

        Do your own research and make your own conclusions. You asserting that isn’t any evidence doesn’t make your claim true either. My statement is we need more research/investigation to be certain before we trust one business conglomerate with our food production. How is that a bad thing? Or is your strident defense of Monsanto evidence of your employment with them?

        • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

          The only study that even came close to saying GMOs were harmful was done by a scientist named Seralini in France and was widely discredited because he came to a conclusion different than what the research proved. The more GMOs the rats were given the less incidence of sickness there was. Despite popular belief, GMOs are tested constantly and have been for years and there is no evidence whatsoever that they do any harm.

      • moonsbreath

        The nonsense is that you’re just going around saying it’s nonsense to question what is going into GMO food. Estrogen is one component. As I stated, there are numerous problems in female and male bodies when you add estrogen to food. Do your research.

      • http://www.coreyspofford.com/ YEROCDROFFOPS

        You’re like a Monsanto Master Troll

        • moonsbreath

          He probably works there. He’s saying the same thing over and over.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            I’m a farmer and I know the technology unlike the great internet ‘experts’ here who have gotten their talking points from Infowars.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            I supposed you missed the part of their technology where they introduce genes from completely different species. So I guess you really don’t know. You’re only interested in your bottom line, as a “farmer”.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            No, I didn’t miss it. It doesn’t bother me because science and fear-mongering nonsense does not scare me. Give me evidence that it causes harm to humans then we can talk.

        • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

          I’m just stating the facts which are that you have none and you people apparently have a problem with that. Not my problem.

      • GrindingMills

        I’m sure there were people asking Galileo for the proof that the Earth revolved around the Sun.

        • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

          Apparently then I can say the sky is brown and not have any proof whatsoever and you will believe me. Oh yeah, you people aren’t sheep at all….

  • TJ

    For a group of people you would generalize are all in for Evolution what difference does it mean if man is the one helping a weak plant evolve to better survive in one generation over 10-15 years for it to natural evolve to be the the fittest.

    A few million more people will not die in the time it takes to get a rice plant to better able to survive a flood naturally than before.

  • TJ

    One has to wonder if the problem with GMO food is not that man is playing God in changing the DNA of the plant but pure Capitalism that allows that to happen. They H8 Monsanto the say way they hate Exxon. GMO is the same evil as Oil and Money in general. It is produced because of Capitalism and to some only Communism will feed the people with natural foods and heat the homes with clean power.

  • Markward

    Dumbass Luddites.

    Man has been genetically engineering food since the agricultural revolution, it is called: selective breeding.

    • Ronald Green

      Selective breeding is not the same as artificially modifying an organism’s genetic code. But yes, we have been selectively breeding plants and animals for a very long time.

      • Markward

        Yes it is! With selective breeding you are targeting traits that you want to focus on. Genes control the traits of the organism, and the difference is that in selective breeding there is a element of randomness to it. Remember in killer bees we wanted the increased production of African bees, the result instead was very aggressive bees.

        • Yoshi

          And there you go proving why its bad to mess with genes or traits lol! Prime example… So lets not mess with God’s perfect creations:)

        • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

          Hybridization is not introducing genes from a completely different species via a “vector” (i.e. virus). They are gene splicing… Hybridization is a natural process. So no, it’s NOT.

    • Mengles

      You don’t seem to know the difference between selective breeding vs. actually changing the genetic code of something. Please learn the difference before calling other people dumbasses.

      • Markward

        Hrm… Whats the difference between, “I’m going to breed these two plants that have large fruit” and “I’m going to modify this gene that controls the size of the fruit.” Because the traits an organism has is determined by genes. The difference is Genetic engineering is very specific, where as Selective breeding takes time and there is an element of randomness to it!

        For example:

        You do realize that Africanized Bees are the result of cross breeding? When by using genetic engineering you could target the genes that control honey production and save people the aggravation from dealing with killer bees?

        Why don’t you learn about genetic engineering before you say something yourself?

        • GrindingMills

          The first GMO food available to the market was in 1994 when Calgene marketed a tomato that had a delayed ripening.

          There’s a huge difference between crossbreeding and modifying DNA so that a tomato ripens slower.

          • Markward

            And what would the difference be?

            Because again, you are targeting specific traits of a organism on a genetic level. Maximizing what you want and leaving what you don’t want, and in this case slow ripening is a good thing for not as many people have access to a farmer’s market.

          • Kele Johnson

            Do you realize that GMO seeds have been genetically engineered with built in pesticides? Poisons? That’s what you want to put in your body? There is a big difference between selective breeding and modifying something down to its DNA. BIG DIFFERENCE!

          • tjp77

            They do not have ‘built-in poisons’. Jesus Christ.

            They can be engineered to be RESISTANT to insects. That does not mean that POISON has been engineered into their DNA.

            I cannot believe that people actually listen to this hippie BS propaganda.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            Okay, so farmers grow Round-up resistant crops. Since Round-up is not biodegradable, does not leech out of the soil, what do you think that does to the crops that the farmer just willy-nilly then sprays Round-up on? Do you think you can just ‘wash it off’?

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            The difference, if you’d care to even do a little research, is the introduction of genes belonging to a completely different species altogether, i.e mammals and/or fish, via a vector, usually a virus.

  • notenoughtime

    Who?!

  • moonsbreath

    Well, I don’t care for GMO food because of the high levels of estrogen that are added. Yeah, you want a better crop of food, but why use estrogen? A lot of women are coming up with gynecological problems because of estrogen dominance. Men are also having numerous health problems as well.

  • Walter Sobchak

    Monsanto is an abomination, and the fascist, criminal Obunghole regime looks the other way as they engage in grossly anti-competitive practices that would get any other company slapped with an anti-trust suit.

  • kssturgis62

    Alex Jones is a Nut Case – Occupy is disgusting to the core. Monsanto is Bad and Evil. Maybe these nut jobs can do something about it.

    It is banned and food has been destroyed in other countries that were associated with Monsanto.

    It is an evil country and Obama signed that law very quietly. It is not a conspiracy theory about MONSANTO.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/31/obama-signs-order-that-protects-maker-of-genetically-modified-crops/

    • kssturgis62

      The Illinois Ag Dept. illegally seized privately owned bees from renowned naturalist, Terrence Ingram, without providing him with a search warrant and before the court hearing on the matter, reports Prairie Advocate News.

      Behind the obvious violations of his Constitutional rights is Monsanto. Ingram was researching Roundup’s effects on bees, which he’s raised for 58 years. “They ruined 15 years of my research,” he told Prairie Advocate, by stealing most of his stock.

      A certified letter from the Ag Dept.’s Apiary Inspection Supervisor, Steven D. Chard, stated:

      “During a routine inspection of your honeybee colonies by … Inspectors Susan Kivikko and Eleanor Balson on October 23, 2011, the bacterial disease ‘American Foulbrood’ was detected in a number of colonies located behind your house…. Presence of the disease in some of your colonies was confirmed via test results from the USDA Bee Research Laboratory in Beltsville, Maryland that analyzed samples collected from your apiary….”

      Ingram can prove his bees did not have foulbrood, and planned to do so at a hearing set in April, but the state seized his bees at the end of March. They have not returned them and no one at the Ag Dept. seems to know where his bees are.

      The bees could have been destroyed, or they could have been turned over to Monsanto to ascertain why some of his bees are resistant to Roundup. Without the bees as evidence, Ingram simply cannot defend against the phony charges of foulbrood.

      Worse, all his queens died after Kivikko and Balson “inspected” his property, outside of his presence and without a warrant.

      Of note, Illinois beekeepers are going underground after Ingram’s experience and refuse to register their hives, in case the state tries to steal their private property on phony claims.

      Read more at http://www.realfarmacy.com/illinois-illegally-seizes-bees-resistant-to-monsantos-roundup-kills-remaining-queens/#bJRvj3fGDktDKtSj.99

  • Dencal26

    From the FDA website

    Are foods from genetically engineered plants safe?
    Foods from
    genetically engineered plants must meet the same requirements, including safety
    requirements, as foods from traditionally bred plants. FDA has a consultation
    process that encourages developers of genetically engineered plants to consult
    with FDA before marketing their products. This process helps developers
    determine the necessary steps to ensure their food products are safe and lawful.
    The goal of the consultation process is to ensure that any safety or other
    regulatory issues related to a food product are resolved before commercial
    distribution. Foods from genetically engineered plants intended to be grown in
    the United States that have been evaluated by FDA through the consultation
    process have not gone on the market until the FDA’s questions about the safety
    of such products have been resolved.

    Libs hate science.

    • 912er

      I don’t know about this one way or the other but don’t let your hatred for liberals overshadow the evils of government….remember,liberals are just useful idiots…the users of liberals are the ones to watch out for.

    • Kele Johnson

      The FDA is nothing more than an arm of this government…a government that I personally don’t trust–so why would I trust them to tell me the truth about the food supply? Control the food–control the people.

      • Dencal26

        When the Govt posts a sign on a lake saying “ Do not swim, Toxins” do you ignore it and jump in?

        • Kele Johnson

          That’s a red herring response which detracts from the issue in question. If you want to trust your health to an agency which has been caught numerous times suppressing vital drug safety information, well then, good little citizen, you. I prefer to do the necessary research before I trust ANYTHING the government says. They haven’t exactly proven themselves trustworthy.

          • Dencal26

            Ahh so when they tell you the lake is toxic you pull out a lab test kit and check for yourself or you rely on the advise of the govt?

  • Guest

    I had never heard of Alex Jones. LOL that was funny..

  • Gallatin

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, spend my money on cheap food or Hollyweird? I choose cheap food.

  • Adela Wagner

    The way I figure it, don’t matter who you are or what political crap you go with, if you don’t want pesticide ON your food, why would you want it IN your food?

    If you want to grow something, WHY would you want to have to KEEP buying seed every year because it is sterile and GENETICALLY MODIFIED, when you could grow pure heirloom seed and save the seed from it for next year?

    And why, when you profess to not want to be bullied into buying something, you would support a company and legislation that is out to keep you in the dark by making it legal to NOT label GMO food?

    If you are thinking there is nothing wrong here, PLEASE go search “Why Monsanto wants you to only be able to buy THEIR seed” and read about their Chicago type thuggery. And how BOTH sides of the aisle, along with Obama, are in on it too.

  • disqus_G8xi77DYlj

    I truly feel sorry for ANYONE who is for Monsanto or ANYONE who ridicules people who want to make this republic a better place, GMO foods and seeds are KILLING YOU and YOUR family so keep making fun and see where that gets you. Good for you Eliza, beautiful on the inside as well as on the outside. Monsanto is killing the honeybees, no bees equals NO FOOD, they pollinate 80% of all fruits and veggies. Keep on demonizing Alex Jones too, bunch of close minded idiots. The TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE, good luck continuing to be sheep and asleep.

  • Conrad2010

    Never mind.

  • Mengles

    Sorry, but have to disagree here. Genetically modified foods have been shown to introduce new allergies in people who did not have an allergy to that specific food before. I love you guys here at Twitchy, but with Alex Jones supporting it, it just proves that even a broken clock like himself can be correct twice a day. It doesn’t mean that GM foods aren’t a problem.

  • Margaret Manzi

    Twitchy’s editors should become better informed before ridiculing people who are wary of genetically modified seeds and “Round-Up ready” farming methods.

  • Yoshi

    Ppl keep saying ppl will starve, but ppl still starve even after GMO crap came along. Reality is the population will grow and food shortage will always be a problem. The government made it hard for farmers to continue to be farmers for control.
    All we are asking is to label products to give us a choice. What’s wrong with that?
    Let us “crazy” ppl choose to be organic or choose not to be. Don’t force it into our bodies and allow the test of time to prove what is better. If u see less health issues with those who choose to steer away from GMO crap, then hey we were right! Let us choose…
    You gotta wonder why other countries ban GMO from their country….?
    Also if Obama supports it, should that alone throw up red flags, he has not made any good choices in my book since he cheated in being our dictator!

  • deadpammy

    Jones is not a KOOK on GMO. Those who own the food own the ppl. Don’t judge before you know the facts. I’m a bit appalled Michelle that you would down play this.

    • Chris Chambers

      You should really be worrying about the “Plant Reproductive Material Law” which is intended to give the EU the power to “classify and regulate all plant life anywhere in Europe.” Not sure which is worse. IMHO the EU is trying to make backyard gardens illegal.

  • MC12

    Then don’t follow her on twitter? If you don’t like her if you think she’s stupid then don’t follow her on twitter. Problem solved.

  • deadpammy

    Another thing, you posting this article on your site Michelle shows you are pretty much a RINO.You write a good book or five, but really, not to take this seriously is sad.Jones is right on on this subject.

    • jerseydave

      Michelle is not a RINO. I agree with keeping an eye on Monsanto, let’s give more people time to come around on it. Having this even posted in a place like this is something. There is no such thing as bad exposure if you have a cause, because it means someone is hearing about it for the first time when it is talked about in a new place.

  • jerseydave

    OK, not going to hate on this. Here’s why. I’ve heard a bit of the Monsanto criticism on the Coast to Coast AM show with George Noory.

    I don’t necessarily agree with the idea that Monsanto is super evil BUT given the impact of what they do and the extent to which they have impacted foods and growing techniques, a healthy atmosphere of asking questions and getting information to the public is a good thing. So more attention that might get a clearer picture out there to everyone and more transparency is a good thing.

  • deadpammy

    One more thing, then I’m done, I promise. I moved to WA 20 years ago from Cali, the first 10 years my corn crop was wonderful.. You could pick the fruit and eat it in the garden it was so good. Now, I’m lucky to get a handful of fruit that is not damaged. I know it is due to the farmer down the road growing GMO corn and it is cross pollinating.

    • Minarchism Leads To Freedom

      If you know it then why don’t you take them to court?

      • Minarchism Leads To Freedom

        That’s what I thought. If Monsanto were half as bad as people say they are they would have been sued out of business a long time ago. I call bs.

  • Gregg Hammerquist

    I don’t see a problem with labeling GMO food, but banning it? So much for choice and freedom. Oh Eliza: so much beauty, if only they were brains.

  • Samh09

    There are times like these when I think Eliza Dushku should have been born with blonde hair.

  • Mini14’sBlkStrat

    Who, or what, is eliza dushku.

  • johnnycab23513

    I wonder if Burbank had to deal with Idiots like these when he started grafting fruit trees?

  • LeighLeigh

    What is it that genetically modified foods do to the human body? I don’t understand the beef against modernization….I’m beginning to think that the OWS, Alex Jones, PETA, Environmental Climate Change hoodlums are the equivalent to the Islamofascists in that they want us to go back in time to the 7th century and wipe our shitty asses with our hands.

    • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

      Yes and unfortunately a lot of people on our side are falling into that trap. The left media demonizes something in an area they want the government to control, people become outraged, politicians respond and gain control of that industry then tax and regulate it to death leaving one entity like Monsanto in charge that the government can control.

  • Batman

    “Genetically-modified crops make food cheaper and more plentiful.” — I’ll pay more for food proven to be safe, any day of the week. You can eat garbage if you like. Monsanto is a POS company.

  • Guest

    Leftists love victims.

  • Kele Johnson

    GMO – Genetically modified organisms…y’all don’t have a problem eating genetically modified food? Really? You don’t want the nanny state–the government controlling your lives, but you don’t mind people screwing with your food supply?

    This is why I buy non-GMO and organics only and grow what I can’t buy. Monsanto is evil. In addition to “modifying” the food you eat, their product “Round Up” is partially responsible for the thinning of the bee population, and if the bees die off people, we, the human race, are toast.

    If I could bring myself to be in the vicinity of the Occupiers, et al, I’d have marched against them too.

  • digitalPimple

    Again. Ok. You hate this company. So what’s stopping another company from creating foods that are labeled NON-GMO?

    Seems if this has such a huge following and is so critical that’s big money in the bank. Should be a huge market right?

  • Karl H

    We grow most of our own food and the food for the livestock that we raise for food as well. Strictly from a family farm point of view, just try and locate seed and feed that Monsanto has not had a hand in. Even the so called heirloom vegetables. It has been rough going to ensure that no Mon-Satan product is on my property so I can live relatively free of the fear of some stupid lawsuit from such a company.

    If you wish to eat GMO that is fine.Just do not confuse naturally hybridized food with GMO food. Look it up there is a huge difference between cross-pollination and franken-food.

    And as far as big government control, that would be Monsanto not people fighting against Monsanto. How would you feel about having to register your seed? Hopefully the same as you feel about registering your guns.

    http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2013/05/overhaul-of-eu-seed-regulations-.html

    Now how do you feel about companies like Monsanto?

    And the next time those of you who are over 35 walk through the produce section at your supermarket take a deep breath in through your nose and try to remember how the produce section smelled when you were a kid. The odor of fresh vegetables is almost totally gone, the only place you may still smell that smell is by the organic produce. What else is missing from the produce?

    I do not expect a lot of people to agree, on GMO’s but can we at least agree that individuals growing food on their property for their consumption should never have to answer to anyone be they a government agency or big corporation. And if a corporation or small farm wants to market their goods as non-GMO and Hormone free (and they actually are GMO and hormone free) then they should be able to label their products in such a fashion as to clearly note the differences between their product and the competition.

    Monsanto et al has spent a great deal of money trying to ensure their products blend in with other products that are clearly very different.

  • digitalPimple

    Hey seed nuts.. Ireland has the second largest cancer rate in the world.
    Australia? 3rd.
    New Zeland? 4th

    GMO’s == high rates of cancer … destroyed.

    Mind blown.

    • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

      Don’t bother, the anti-GMO people don’t like facts.

      • Karl H

        fact Glyphosphate in GMO corn at 18 times the safe levels determined by the FDA….Glyphosphate does not occur naturally in corn. it is a pesticide.

        0.7ppm is safe GMO corn 13 ppm.

        Oh and Formaldehyde at 200ppm in GMO corn.

        Formaldehyde is normally metabolized into CO2 in normal corn but the GMO seems to not be able to do this.

        the measured levels of nutrients in corn are 33% to 75% lower in GMO corn vs standard hybrids.

        GMO plant stalks generally can not be used as fodder for livestock as they are not digestible and result in digestive damage and death. Not good if you incorporate livestock into your farming to fertilize fields left fallow.

        But what do I know I only farm to feed my family surely I am just another one of those flyover country rubes not sophisticated enough to be part of the intelligentsia who do not trust their Government to tell them the truth about Benghazi but surely the Government is as honest as an Eagle scout when it comes to drugs and food. Sometime the logic shown here is just astounding.

        Sure the Government would never lie about food quality or Drug efficacy I mean just ask the people of Tuskegee and how well the Government treated the people with syphilis. Or The US Energy Departments radiation experiments on unwilling, unknowing US citizens.

        Surely the FDA and the CDC are only there to help and assist and would never engage in any immoral or unethical practices even if they are entirely run by former executives from the companies they are supposed to monitor.

        If you believe this then surely it must also follow that Eric Holder is capable of performing an impartial investigation into Benghazi, the press wire taps and the fast and the furious. Surely you trust the Government to tell you the truth.

        Sometimes the people who think they are conservative, who think they are rational, who think they have a clear moral and ethical compass appear to be quite insane.

        • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

          Yet you guys are advocating for MORE government control of the food supply and have the nerve to question OUR conservatism. Yeah right. Also, please tell me where you got your ‘facts’ and also show me proof that they cause harm to humans because the last time I checked there wasn’t any.

          • Karl H

            Look by all means this is a free country look it up for your damn self. My shoes were never at the foot of your mothers bed so I am not here to spoon feed you or hold your hand.

            I pointed out some numbers now be a good little self aware bipedal hominid and engage the brain God blessed you with and do your homework.

            Or sit around do nothing and enjoy a snack of processed GMO corn feed doused with MSG and artificial flavoring. Funny how just a minor tweek in processing decide if a product is cattle, dog, cat, rat or human kibble.

            You might want to choose something more nutritious though. I hear shredded cardboard and battery components have more vitamins and minerals than Pringles.

            Cheers

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            I’m going to go out on a wild limb and say your only ‘proof’ is the French Seralini study that has been debunked many times, so yeah I’m not going to look it up when you are apparently not confident enough to even cite sources with your claims.

          • Karl H

            Ah look the clever ape has figured it all out.. No not the french study so please clever ape do your homework.

            Oh and BTW I am not for more Government I am for less Government I would like to see all farm subsidies stopped and All special legal protection for big Farma stopped and a 20 year moratorium on Government workers or Big Farma workers taking a job with the other if the work is in an area where they formerly had to provide oversite. IE no monsanto employees going to work for or consulting for the FDA and no FDA employees going to work or consulting for Monsanto. In a word “Ethical” behaviour.

          • benched42

            Well then, Karl H, cite your sources.

    • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

      Where are they in the cases of gastrointestinal disease? Diabetes?

  • Harlan

    I wondered why there was no tinfoil on the shelves…

  • tertiaryintervention

    So am I to understand that you are all ok with Monstanto GMO products in the food? That it is ok for the president to appoint to the head of the FDA a former Monsanto employee?

    I see so pointing out the truth is a matter of degrees? Too much truth and you are a “kook?” Whether you accept all of Jones’ ideas, the facts are in on the GMO/Monsanto problem. Look them up.

    I just realised that this place is MSNBC/GAWKER/NYT but for conservatives. What a bummer.

  • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

    “Genetically-modified crops make food cheaper and more plentiful.” Really, Twitchy? Maybe your staff needs to do some research on what EXACTLY Monsanto does to that food to make it ‘cheaper and more plentiful’.

    Just because you’re against Monsanto, doesn’t necessarily mean you’re in the same shed as some other nut-jobs. Sheesh.

    • benched42

      Yes, Really, KAdams. If you don’t work in the industry you don’t really know how prevalent GMO corn is. Of course, what they want to ban is pretty much any of the hybrids, which is how we get 200+ bushels of corn per acre. Oh, and before you start tooting the “corn for food not for fuel” horn, there isn’t that much money in the ethanol for fuel market. Especially compared to the ethanol for consumption or the starch, a byproduct of creating ethanol, for medical uses.

  • Yoshi

    Btw anyone seen the new study on fox stating the use of pesticide causes Parkinsons!!! Not cool!

  • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

    The only name I recognize in all of this is Monsanto.