Femme-a-gogues are whipping out their pom-poms today to cheer a federal judge for ordering the FDA to make the morning-after pill available to women and girls of all ages, no prescription necessary. Yes, that includes children.

Oh, were you still operating under the assumption that children need parental guidance?

https://twitter.com/MattHennessey/status/320168761007149057

This assault on parental rights is yet another gift to sexual predators, courtesy of the morally bankrupt Left. And it comes at the expense of young girls.

https://twitter.com/kellyclinger/status/320170976396591104

But no worries, guys. At least your daughters can’t get their hands on Tylenol at some schools. Oh, and adults: The line forms here for you to jump through hoops for assault Sudafed.

Editor’s note: This post has been updated with additional tweets.

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  • http://twitter.com/die_mich_zwei Spatial Awareness

    Pharmacists! Get ready for your lawsuits. ~_^

  • bossmanham

    How on earth can this legal decision be justified?

    • OLLPOH

      Its Not Its No Where In The Constitution! This Is Fascism!

      • J.N. Ashby

        Nor is the regulation of it. The other way around is facism.

        • OLLPOH

          Communism runs parallel to fascism. So does Marxism. And fascism is not regulated??? As the government is the courts and the FDA and we the taxpayer are paying for both. FDA is Govt. Courts are Gov. Morning after Pill is Gov. Regulated Pharmaceutical.

          • J.N. Ashby

            That’s what I’m saying, no? Telling someone they can’t buy something despotic. I can’t grasp the outrage over this issue. Anyone for limited government should always say “Yay” when the government says it’s not gonna stop someone from doing something anymore.

          • $36544368

            Then you’ll say ‘yay’ when the government butts out of trying to go around the Constitution to mess with gun control?

          • J.N. Ashby

            YES! You think I’m some kind of Democrat?!

          • $36544368

            I’m not sure I can post what I think and not have my comment removed.

          • J.N. Ashby

            Ah, cute. You naughty girl. You could always tell me to take a long walk off a short pier. I don’t go for that kind of salty talk you’re implying.

          • $36544368

            I’m a bit more intelligent than that…and I’m not a boy/man/male.

          • J.N. Ashby

            Better?
            Also, I was being facetious.

          • $36544368

            I’m sorry…I have better things to do now than to play with children. Post away, insult me, do whatever runs a tingle down that leg of yours, but don’t expect me to invest any more time into your nonsense.

          • J.N. Ashby

            Ah, “children.” The patronizing route. Thanks, granny. Hope those hot flashes are treating you well.

          • TocksNedlog

            The libertarian ideal means nothing if you don’t take into account the fact that we actually do interact with each other and therefore must have rule of law in order to live side-by-side in a civilized manner.

          • J.N. Ashby

            Yeah, but saying “There should be a law for…” for every little thing you don’t like isn’t civilized. There don’t need to be laws that stop you from hurting yourself. Your stupidity is your business, is it not?

          • TocksNedlog

            Not “for every little thing”; but for some things, Yes. And especially REASONABLE laws that protect children during times when they are not under the direct supervision of their parents.

          • J.N. Ashby

            Well, I respectfully disagree that my tax dollars must be used first and foremost to protect your kids.

          • TocksNedlog

            No armed guards in schools?

          • J.N. Ashby

            Not by the federal government.

          • TocksNedlog

            I’ll agree with that.

  • rivers

    Wow. Femenisting, Sara Lang, etc. I’d say you are some pretty selfish beyotches that you would do your little victory dance because something that was already available to you is now just that much more convenient for you to obtain, who cares if it puts minors at risk, right? I shudder to think of the health consequences of this action if children take this medication unsupervised. Stand by for the lawsuits.

    • OLLPOH

      Yes, and the taxpayers will pay for the courts.

  • http://twitter.com/stupid_republic Stupid Republic

    Meanwhile, it’s perfectly OK to make me show 13 forms of ID to get relief for a sinus infection. Or buy a gun.

    • Kim

      Because, you know, you and your gun might wind up killing someone someday. Wait, that’s what Plan B is designed to do in and of itself. Ironic stupidity.

    • catb55

      Yes .. because an adult with a cold or allergies really need to stand in line at the pharmacy for their OTC drugs. WTH .. and have your I.D. scanned into the system. Yet a little girl who is raped (yes underage sex is rape) can just get no questions asked abortion pill? What if she dies because of a drug reaction?

  • TJ

    Next is Alcohol. No one under 19-21 can get it even if it is legal OTC drug for everyone older just like Plan-B. It is even worse as one under 19 can not get a prescription to get the OTC drug called alcohol

    • J.N. Ashby

      They really should try that alcohol thing though. It’s delicious.

      • ForTheRepublic

        Ah, that satisfies my curiosity. Just a garden variety troll who will say anything opposite what others say to try to get a rise out of them. Don’t bother responding, folks. Nothing to see here, just a bother contrarian troll.

        • J.N. Ashby

          Does it? Here I was being facetious. The other comments I’m being completely genuine. I’m appauled that people that crow about limited government want the government to raise their kids. Try a little consistency.

  • SpiffyMclure

    How on earth is this “a win for child molesters everywhere!”? Quite possibly the stupidest thing I’ve read today (and there’s a lot of competition in these parts)

    • rivers

      Well, big brain, see if a chronic abuser can access the morning after pill without a prescription, it makes it that much easier to hide the abuse. I know of a chronic abuser who would have gladly taken his abuse one step further had he had the assurance that he would not have to worry about being exposed by a pregnancy. He’s in jail now, but PRETTY CERTAIN there are plenty of others just like him out there.

      Now, was that so hard to get your brain around? And next time, take two seconds and connect the dots yourself before you go calling other people stupid.

      • TomJB

        Spiffy here seems to think that if a close male relative can get a girl to keep her mouth shut about abuse, he somehow won’t be able to get her to take a pill.

        • Harry A

          the close male relative would already be able to buy the pill himself though, as any person over the age of 18 is allowed to buy multiple packages of plan b currently. so i dont understand how this will serve to increase abuse.

        • SpiffyMclure

          Actually, Spiffy doesn’t think anything of the sort, but thanks anyway.

      • Harry A

        but the abuser could have walked in and brought the plan b himself legally already, am i right? i mean there is nothing preventing a grown man from buying plan b as we stand right now, is there?

        i think this is more about allowing young girls access to very harsh chemicals that shouldnt be taken without careful consideration.

        • rivers

          No, you would have needed a prescription, wasn’t OTC.
          But you are also right, harsh chemicals, major side effects, sometimes causing death, it’s frightening to think a minor could take this without parental knowledge or supervision. I also wonder if this will increase the number of unreported rapes amongst women of all ages.

          • dinkerduo

            The morning after pill has been OTC for girls 17 or older for some time now so pedophiles could get it or have a grownup female get it for him—either way this law has no effect on this subject.

          • Harry A

            ok maybe the law is different where you are, but where i am it is definitely over the counter for anyone over the age of 18. as such a pedophiles are already able to buy Plan B, so changing the law is not going to effect that.

    • stellatruman

      Oh I don’t know…perhaps uncle Frank who has been getting at his 13 year old niece for some time now can get this to ensure her not getting pregnant and keeping the cycle going ? Have you never heard of young girls being sexually abused repeatedly ?

      • OLLPOH

        Yes!

      • SpiffyMclure

        Totally specious argument. Do you think for a second our ‘Uncle Frank’ will be dissuaded from abusing his 13-year-old niece because of the risk she’ll get pregnant? When the risk for Uncle Frank is already *a very long time in prison* under less-than-favorable conditions? Uncle Frank – if he did exist – would be an evil scumbag who thinks very little about the ramifications of his actions, and the effect of same on his victim(s).

      • Harry A

        “Uncle Frank” can already buy Plan B himself though, thats where you are losing me in the argument. If anyone over 18 can already buy as much Plan B as they like how does this effect sexual abuse?

    • QueenB

      Well Spiffy – when you knock up your victim, it makes it rather difficult to hide the crime. However, if you go to your local PP with your victim or give your victim a ride to the pharmacy so she can get her morning after pill, the evidence goes away. And with the morning after pill there’s no surgery involved, just pop the pill and your victim can tell her mother it’s really bad cramps. Let the molesting continue!

  • conservativemomma

    We all know how well a child will follow the directions. “Take one every 4 hours” “OK…I will just take the whole bottle and it will work better”

  • http://Twitter.com/jkerrysforehead John Kerry’s Forehead

    A) Those are some harsh chemicals to be available OTC.

    B) Since when do judges have medical licenses to decide what chemical formulas are safe to dispense OTC?

    TWILIGHT Zone? Is Rod Sterling back?

    • J.N. Ashby

      Imagine, if you will, a world where it’s not the government’s job to stop you from hurting yourself, regardless of your age, because when you’re young it’s your parents job, and when you’re an adult, you should know better.

      Edit: Interesting, being a fan of Rod Serling outweighs disagreeing with me as is the case with all my other statements on this page.

    • Cyrena

      Thank you for pointing this out. The FDA usually decides what drugs are approved for what ages. As a healthcare provider, I am forced to use longer acting and unpredictable sedatives on children because that’s what’s approved for pediatric use. And now our daughters get to decide if the Plan B is right for them.
      #RIPcommensense

    • http://twitter.com/jimni27 Jimni27

      I was thinking the same thing. What’s to stop a 13 year old from just using this as birth control every time she has sex?

      • lcky9

        Since some girls get their cycle at 9.. so it could start younger than 13.. next after gay marriage.. marriage to CHILDREN cause after all we can’t discriminate can we..

        • Tom LQ Grandpa

          Yep, the sex crime laws just got tossed out the window involving youngsters.

        • http://twitter.com/jimni27 Jimni27

          sorry I support gay marriage. Comparing love between adults and pedophilia makes no sense to me whatsoever.

          • Kenneth James Abbott

            It makes a lot of sense to B4UAct and other pedophile groups. Guess what tack they’re using?

          • http://twitter.com/jimni27 Jimni27

            No I know that I was replying to the post that said that gay marriage = marriage to children.

      • conservativechick

        Or her abuser making her take it?

        • http://twitter.com/jimni27 Jimni27

          Very true- good point.

    • EastValleyConservative

      Planned Parenthood should be upset about this don’t ya think? Cut into their $$$.

    • dkhilly

      Doesn’t the pill force a sudden, rough period on a girl? Do we even have data on what repetitive use will do to a gal over time?

      • Mike Faber

        What do conservatives need with data anyway.

        • journogal

          What does a liberal need with responsibility and concern anyway? As long as a judge and basically the government tells you it’s okay, you are fine with anything. Let’s pump up tweens with hormones…

      • Jazzee

        how does a young girl even KNOW she is pregnant? there are false/positives that is the first thing then just give them these dang pills they are KIDS not women wake up PARENTS they are taking control of your kids

  • OLLPOH

    Obama’s Government Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and U.S. Federal Courts prescribing your Morals.
    Is There Any Thing In The Constitution of The United States of America Where This IS Found?

  • stellatruman

    this is so disturbing to me as a mother of a young girl ( thankfully on the late bloomer, nerdy side ) She cannot bring a water bottle to school that is already open , so that leaves out a Brita filter bottle…I happen to think that she shouldn’t be able to buy any type of medicine on her own. What is happening to this country ?

    • J.N. Ashby

      So don’t let her?

      • ForTheRepublic

        Oh yeah. Mom saying no is really going to stop kids from doing things like this. Good thinking. How about next, we pass a law making murder illegal! Oh wait…

        • J.N. Ashby

          Oh, you’re right! There should be a law making murder illegal. That’ll stop people from murdering, and while we’re at it, let’s make a law making it illegal to take plan B for anyone under 18 then they’ll never use it, and never have sex out of fear of pregnancy! How does your attempt to invoke a logical absurdity at all refute my point? In any case, your slutty daughter isn’t the taxpayer’s responsibility. It’s yours.

          • $36544368

            Obamacare just made anyone’s ‘slutty daughter’ everyone’s responsibility, Dipstick, whether you like it or not.

          • J.N. Ashby

            And yet you guys gripe about that being a thing, butthole, so why should the government minding their own business not make you happy?

          • $36544368

            Butthole? Seriously? Who the hell do you think is going to be paying for Obamacare? And what part of this is the government minding their own business? What in the world do I have to be happy about in this regard? The government, under Obama, has crawled up my keister far more than any other president in the 52 years I’ve been on this earth. Your reply to me makes absolutely no sense. You want me to gripe about Obamacare? It would take 10 pages of posting for me to even scratch the surface…let’s start with the lying Obama has done about premiums going down, etc…my insurance company states that premiums went up because of Obamacare…60%! When this particular administration minds their own business, someone better catch me, because I’m sure as hell going to faint!

          • J.N. Ashby

            Yes, “butthole.” I called you a butthole. You called me a dipstick, so that’s where we are right now. You’re apparently older than me and went there first.

            I agree with you on Obamacare! I don’t understand what people don’t understand about that. I’m fully against insurance companies being forced by the government to pay for this, meaning the customers actually do. I’m not against the government telling people they’re not going to tell people they can’t buy something though, that, despite all the other nonsense that they do, is a step toward minding their own business, even if they’re probably going to take 10 steps back the next day, and took 1000 back the previous day.

          • $36544368

            Ah…my poor widdle feelings are so hurt…maybe I should call my mommy…such maturity in the ‘you started it’ attitude…I was called ‘butthole’ up until the time I married my husband…part of my maiden name had the word ‘but’ in it, and people loved to try to upset me by doing that…unfortunately, you failed. Perhaps if your posts were written with a bit more clarity, you wouldn’t be misunderstood…the ‘slutty daughter’ comment was incredibly mature. Really, I have better things to do than to write any additional comments to your posts. Your circular logic has the potential to cause a headache.

          • J.N. Ashby

            I didn’t expect them to be hurt, and I don’t care if you think it’s “immature.” Are you not familiar with hyperbole to make a point? They’re written with complete clarity, you tedious hen. The difference between my posts and the others on here is that I’m 100% consistent in my belief in smaller government, and others (you, et al.) want to cherry pick because “ZOMG think of the children!” Nertz to you madam.

          • TocksNedlog

            Last time we checked, the judiciary is still part of the government; and they are hardly “minding their own business” on this one.

          • J.N. Ashby

            Sure it is. “We aren’t going to stop you from doing X.” That’s completely that.

          • TocksNedlog

            That’s what you call “mandating that you MUST do X”? Sure.
            There’s a reason why it’s called “liberal FACISM”.

          • J.N. Ashby

            No it’s not! No one’s saying you have to buy the stupid pill! Obamacare is “liberal fascism,” even if “liberal” is a misnomer, as there’s nothing “liberal” about taxes. Affirmative action is “liberal fascism.” Don’t cheapen the word fascism on something as inane as this.

          • TocksNedlog

            And the people that want to make it “illegal to take plan B for anyone under 18” are WHO?

          • J.N. Ashby

            Is that not what this outrage on here is?

          • TocksNedlog

            I don’t know. How about you scan the entire thread for “it should be against the law for a minor to ingest plan b” and get back to me.

          • J.N. Ashby

            Oh you want the explicit words. No I doubt that’s there. See we have this commonality of language that, when one expresses outrage over an age ban being lifted on a substance, one would be implying that they don’t want a minor to be allowed to obtain, and possibly use, said substance.

      • TocksNedlog

        Smert!

        • J.N. Ashby

          What?

    • OLLPOH

      If possible Home School your daughter, as it will be your morals, values, principals, and integrity taught and instilled in her.
      From Before Birth and Beyond Teen Years,
      Children Learn What They Live,
      Then They Grow Up And Live What They Have Learned.

      • mike_in_kosovo

        Well said!

      • stellatruman

        Thanks OLLPOH..she is already a sophomore so a little late for that. She already has a lot of integrity and more conservative than we are :) It isn;t easy to swim against the tide , but she manages pretty well

      • lcky9

        not always true.. some people are late bloomers but when they find out the BS they have been fed wise up quick..

  • OLLPOH

    It Is The Same With The Gun Violence Laws Recently Pasted.
    It Is Our Own Individual Responsibility Not Any Governments To Protect Our Individual Selves, and Our Families.
    Do Governments Ban Cars and Alcohol or Cell Phone Texting Because an Individual Driving Under The Influence or Texting While Driving Tragically and Seriously Injures or Kills Themselves or Others?
    Morals, Values, Principles and Integrity Can Not Be Mandated and Legislated It Begins At Home By Parents.

    If Parents Never Say No Do Not Do This Because Of Consequences Then The Child Will Not Ever Know What Conscience Is!

    Conscience Is Taught By Parenting Not In The Village, The Commune, The Government!

  • J.N. Ashby

    I don’t see the problem. When was it the government’s job to tell your children what they can’t, or shouldn’t, buy? Isn’t that your job as a parent? I’m pretty sure controlling supply and demand is Communism.

    • NRPax

      And yet the government can say I can’t and shouldn’t buy particular drugs without showing ID, I can’t and shouldn’t buy particular weapons without showing ID and submitting to a background check, etc.

      No one is talking about controlling supply and demand. The parents are objecting to this kind of medication being available over the counter without any safeguards in place. I’m not a parent and even I find this abhorrent.

      • J.N. Ashby

        First paragraph: I find those things repulsive. Nothing in the constitution gives them the right to do those things.
        Second paragraph: It’s not the government’s job to stop your kids from being slutty. It’s yours.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1538376219 Stacey Holmdahl

          It’s also not the government’s job to stop our kids from eating too much or abusing drugs at school, or force them to get in shape or learn an art, but yet the government put new calorie restrictions on school lunches and wants to monitor foods brought from home, requires my kids to take PE even though they are active and healthy, and mandates they take art classes to graduate from high school even though they have no interest in art.

          • J.N. Ashby

            Yeah? And? It’s not even the government’s job to school the children in the first place. Just because the system already exists doesn’t mean it’s right. “Oh this restriction already existed therefore it’s fine.” No. Not really.

          • Guest

            Ok, fair point. You seem to advocate for even less government that I do, I can see that you are consistent in your assertions.

          • J.N. Ashby

            You’re the only one here that sees that, it seems.

    • gekkobear

      Last I checked the FDA rules some medications as safe for OTC for everyone, some medications as safe for those over a certain age, and some medications as requiring a prescription so a doctor would be involved in the process.

      For safety reasons I suspect a 12 year old taking a huge dose of hormones might be something where you’d want a doctor involved.

      Now maybe you’re opposed to any FDA restrictions (aside from false advertising or improper ingredients I’d assume); but if you’re ok with the FDA restricting many medications based on safety requirements I’d think you’d consider a comparable rule here to be based on safety, not morality.

      Maybe Plan-B is perfectly safe for a tween girl to take without supervision… but I doubt it.

      • J.N. Ashby

        Well first, I’d rather the FDA not exist, even for the false advertising and improper ingredients, you can always not buy the product, or sue them if the product says it contains X, and it contains Y and makes you or your child sicker.
        Second, you can’t supervise your child?
        Third, the FDA is one of the primary reasons health care costs so much.
        Fourth, the safety of your child isn’t my problem. It’s yours. Likewise for morality.
        Also, if the FDA is so damned brilliant, how did Accutane make it to the market? It causes IBS and Crohn’s in some cases, so how did the FDA, in all their wisdom, decide it’s safe for teenagers to consume?

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1538376219 Stacey Holmdahl

          Then why don’t we allow kids under a certain age to hunt or purchase guns? Why do I have to supply a drivers license and be limited to how much pseudoephederine I can buy? My parents raised me right, I’m not going to use it illegally. Why do schools mandate that my kid can’t bring Tylenol to school without a doctor’s note and parental consent? Why can you apply this “it’s your job to teach your kids,” philosophy to some issues and not others?

          • J.N. Ashby

            I’m not NOT applying it to others. You people get the whole “UHN! Think of the children!” bug into your head and suddenly the benevolent government that does no wrong has to come in to save the day. You should be able to buy as much pseudoephedrine as you want. It neither breaks my leg, nor picks my pocket if you do. And when schools say “Your kid can’t bring Tylenol to school,” you don’t just do it anyway with the message to the kid “Be inconspicuous about it?” Even as a kid, I read the label, and feared the idea of being poisoned, so why shouldn’t I expect the same from others?

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1538376219 Stacey Holmdahl

            You should be able to expect the same from others. You will often be disappointed, but as a society we should expect people to be responsible for themselves. I still think in this case as in alcohol there are good reasons to make these things hard for teens to get. You are right, teens will find ways around the laws (per your above post.) I see your reasoning, but then are you advocating that there should be no government age limits on any purchasable items? Or any limits on any legally obtainable items? p.s. I do non consider the government to be benevolent, nor doing no wrong. For me less is better, but I am ok with some age related restrictions, particularly if this drug could easily be abused by teens and if that is a potential health risk. Perhaps it is my head in the sand, thinking the obstacles help us.

          • J.N. Ashby

            Happens every day.
            To be honest I don’t think there needs to be. Where are these 12-year-olds getting all this money for drugs and alcohol? Finding ways around the law is a bit of an understatement. It’s easy for a teenager to get alcohol.
            My primary grievance is this: I can’t, in good conscience, advocate demanding someone not be able to obtain something knowing that it would piss me off if someone told me I couldn’t obtain something, but that it was “for my own good,” when I’m the only one capable of deciding what’s for my own good.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1538376219 Stacey Holmdahl

            I agree with you there, but still, don’t you think there is a difference between an adult deciding what’s good for him/her, and a child? That is my biggest beef with this. It’s why I’m ok with legal drinking age, age requirements for obtaining cigarettes (I hate them, so wish they didn’t exist but I digress…) and some sort of supervision for things like a morning after pill. I think in spite of good parenting kids will make bad decisions, sometimes repeatedly, to their own detriment. As adults I think we should be allowed to make bad decisions and them pay for them if things go awry. I think birth control in some form is good for teenagers since it’s unrealistic to think they won’t have sex (some will no matter how good the parenting, some won’t). I do worry about the safety of this pill if it’s used as a substitute for condoms or “the pill.”

          • J.N. Ashby

            Ok, well here’s the thing. Kids don’t have jobs, since they typically don’t have any real marketable skills, thus they don’t have money, so, whether they want something or not, their ability to obtain it is extremely limited unless a drifter or someone gives it to them. In any case, deciding what’s best for a child is the responsibility of a parent, not the state. What if I don’t mind if my child uses it? Should your parenting methods be the one endorsed by the state? If I don’t think anyone under the age of 25 should be allowed to drive, because they’re terrible at it, would it not bother you that your child wasn’t allowed to because you didn’t see the harm in it? If you see a 13-year-old smoking, it’s well within your free speech to berate them for doing so, or to narc to their parents, is it not?

            All that said, and this only somewhat facetiously, if a child has marketable skills to get a job, I’d say they earned that beer.

  • CrossHugger

    The baby killers are rejoicing……

    • CrossHugger

      When they called good evil and evil good…..

  • http://www.facebook.com/joseph.a.white.16 Joseph A White

    If this is now the law, can someone then explain to me why ANY abortion should EVER be allowed? I mean hey…The morning after you get raped…pop a pill. Gone…The morning after you get drunk and have sex with that dude…..pop that pill and…voila!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOO problemo…..after that pedo nails your 11 year old daughter?? No sweat…send her down to the Wal-Mart pharmacy for the “Plan B” fix…and have her pick you up some soda-pop while she’s at it. Seems to me as though there is NO EXCUSE for an abortion now…Government is buying your BC pills, and I am sure that Plan “B” will be included in Obama care under “wimmen’s health rights” and all that rot. In the mean-time, Jesus weeps. And so do I.

    • dinkerduo

      The morning after pill IS NOT the abortion pill. If conception has already taken place the MA pill will do no good. You’d need to get the RU487 pill if you were already pregnant! These pill only work if taken within 72 hours as it takes that long for the little swimmers get to where they are going. Pregnancy does not happen the INSTANT the sex act is completed. People need to know their biology!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1538376219 Stacey Holmdahl

        But his point was simply that between govt mandated free birth control and the likely govt. mandated free morning after pill, no one should EVER get accidentally pregnant and require an abortion. After all, they are mature enough to do all this stuff without our knowledge or consent…

      • mike_in_kosovo

        Speaking of ‘needing to know their biology’… if an egg has already been released, the version of the ‘morning after pill’ that delays ovulation is useless.

        • dinkerduo

          if the egg has already been released the ma pill will make it so it can’t get fertilized. Everyone needs to read up on the ma pill and what it does and does not do. Unless you’re in the tropics a girl doesn’t become fertile for 2 yrs. after her period starts so most 13/14 yr. old girls wouldn’t become pregnant anyway. Parents need to make sure their 13/14 yr. old girls aren’t having sex to begin with! But if they get forced or think they want to have sex then they will be protected from pregnancy.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            If the egg has already been released the ma pill will make it so it can’t get fertilized.

            Oh, really?

            “The primary mechanism of action of levonorgestrel as a progestogen-only emergency contraceptive pill is to prevent fertilization by inhibition of ovulation. The International Federation of Gynecology and Obstetrics (FIGO) has issued a statement that: “review of the evidence suggests that LNG [levonorgestreol] ECPs cannot prevent implantation of a fertilized egg.”

            Everyone needs to read up on the ma pill and what it does and does not do.

            Indeed.

            a girl doesn’t become fertile for 2 yrs. after her period starts

            Oh really? By all means, share the medical text you got that info from. And, yes, I’m well aware that the first year or so of menses *can* be where eggs are not released, but that is not a medical certainty.

          • dinkerduo

            There is an exception to every rule but yes—read “how babies are conceived and born” just like boys don’t become fertile until close to 16/17—that why you don’t hear about 13/14/ yr. olds becoming parents–they are more around15 for girls and 16/17 for the boys
            But why the hostility?

          • mike_in_kosovo

            But you *do* hear of 13/14 year olds becoming parents, which is why I responded as I did.

            You lecture others to learn before they post, yet give out incorrect information yourself.

  • Karl Winrich

    This ruling sends a message to young women/children everywhere. It says “Go ahead and have unprotected sex and don’t worry about the consequences of pregnancy or your parents finding out.” This is morally bankrupt and should be seen as a sign of the way our country is sliding out of control.

    • Brad

      No, actually this will prevent teenage pregnancies. Did you know that the most conservative states in america also have the highest teenage pregnancy rates?

      • Karl Winrich

        You missed my meaning. Yes the plan-b pill will reduce teen pregnancy but now they can get this pill from OTC without their parents even knowing anything about it. So it’s sending a message of promiscuity and then allowing for an out and all behind a parent’s or legal guardians back.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1538376219 Stacey Holmdahl

        Maybe we should allow under aged kids to obtain pot and alcohol too, since those ages are just as arbitrary. After all, kids are drinking and smoking pot without parental knowledge or consent, giving it to them legally might prevent car accidents! Heck, why even have parents at all if none of the values we wish to instill in our kids are treated with any respect any more.

        • J.N. Ashby

          If you need the government to keep your kids from drinking, you aren’t a very good parent to begin with.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1538376219 Stacey Holmdahl

            JN Ashby, I’m not really worried about my kids drinking. I try to be a good parent, and communicate with them constantly. I know where they are so far, at all times, and they are good kids. All that said, you are being unrealistic to think that kids are mature enough to always make good decisions. You insult me and my parenting when you know nothing about me. At some point kids are on their own, and we have to hope that we’ve done a good job raising them. I’m glad there’s a drinking age that prevents my teen aged driver from obtaining alcohol until he’s a little older and presumably more mature; less susceptible to peer pressure. Pretending that every moral and value you try to instill in your kids will be followed to the letter is akin to sticking your head in the sand. It’s why we have laws that deny access to all sorts of things to kids, but not adults. In my mind, this is no different than our laws about alcohol or driving.

          • J.N. Ashby

            I didn’t insult you and your parenting. I used the conditional modifier “if” to enforce my statement that it isn’t the government’s job to affirm your parenting rules. Your kids aren’t being prevented from drinking by the law, it simply diverts their efforts to shadier means of getting it. Go to Athens, GA on a Friday night and see how well the law stops 18-year-olds from drinking. Driving age laws exist from danger to others not to one’s self, and even then, it needn’t exist, since nearly 100% of 12-year-olds haven’t the means to buy a car themselves.

          • http://www.facebook.com/richard.jefferies.96 Richard Jefferies

            So you believe you can keep them having sex too, right?

          • J.N. Ashby

            Keeping them having sex is easy. Their hormonal bodies are itching for it, are they not? I don’t see your point.

  • therantinggeek

    SMH. REALLY?!?!

    Here’s a snippet from the article:

    “Judge Edward Korman, a federal judge based in New York City, heard arguments in a case filed by the pro-abortion Center for Reproductive Rights over whether the FDA should have ultimately allowed teens to buy the Plan B drug without a doctor’s order. The pro-abortion group says such drugs are being held to a different standard than other drugs and that decisions are not based on science, but on politics.”

    Apparently the Obama administration was opposed to it at first…

    “The lawsuit was filed prior to the decision by the Obama administration in December 2011 to not allow sale of the morning after pill to teens.”

    But the judge wouldn’t have any of it:

    “During the hearing, Korman was highly critical of the government’s handling of the issue when he ordered the FDA in 2009 to let 17-year-olds obtain the medication. At the time, he accused the government of letting “political considerations, delays and implausible justifications for decision-making” cloud the approval process.””

    Um, excuse me Your Honor, but this has NOTHING to do with “political considerations, etc”. We’re talking about giving underage girls the ability to purchase OTC emergency contraception, something to which I’m really opposed to on moral grounds. And don’t get me started about how I see kids as young as 11 and 12 roaming the malls by themselves where I live. Without adult supervision. Is it just me or do some parents decide to “let their kids be kids” and do whatever they want and not just care? I’m sorry but, as a parent myself, there’s no way I couldn’t take a proactive role in my son’s life as he’s growing up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q357cCcTYf8

  • neoface

    For lack of better wording, a society that eats its own will not last!!!

  • radicallyalyssa

    So now, thanks to this idiot judge and the idiot Feminists that approve, more young women are going to be getting knocked up with the hopes of being able to prevent pregnancy with this crap. The last thing we need is more teenage pregnancy or the spreading of STDs, but here we are! We’re promoting it!

    • Brad

      This will prevent teenage pregnancies.

    • Squirrel!

      I agree with you about the STD’s issue. I have a 15 yr old daughter, and I have talked with her about protection not only because of pregnancy but also because of diseases. She is not yet active, but we do talk about these things. I don’t think kids fully consider all consequences of their actions and when talking about birth control (as in pills), I let her know that condoms are also necesary to prevent disease. Whether we’re talking morning after pill or birth control pill, it’s the same issue as far as that goes. This is something I feel has to do with parenting. That said, I do not agree with the morning after pill being available OTC for any age. My daughter can’t take a cough drop to school with her, and if she needs Tylenol or something, I have to drive to her school and give it to her myself. Also, there are OTC drugs that kids can’t even take if they’re under the age of 12 for I’m sure good reasons. I am wondering if there is enough history with the morning after pill to ensure it is safe for children to take. I honestly I am not knowledgeable about it.

  • Right Wired

    Now we have children killing children.

    Way to go, libtards.

    • Brad

      Do you think you sound clever when you use words like “libtard”?

      • Matt

        Sure. Because liberals never make up stuff like “tea bagger” and think that they’re clever. There’s a party that throws around retarded ad hominems. Spoiler alert : Its not conservatives.

        You’re a mendacious twatwaffle. Clever enough for you?

        • Right Wired

          That’ll never be O’Reilly’s word of the day, but should be.

      • Right Wired

        Clever? No. Honest? Yes.

        A libtard is a liberal who believes, despite thousands of years of recorded historical fact to the contrary, that their political and economic system of beliefs are successful and valid.

        Liberalism/Progressivism (the modern day for words for socialism and communism) have failed throughout history. It has led to misery, slavery through social welfare, suffering, economic collapse, democide and oppression.

        But you continue to believe. So either you are:

        1. a troll
        2. intellectually dishonest
        3. mentally retarded

        But, do you think you sound clever when you said:

        “You’re such a pathetic weasel”

        “Try again idiot”

        “go away loser”

        “Greg Gutfeld, what a loser.”

        “Noah is just another right wing hack”

        “Stephen Colbert is the media? What are you talking about?? He’s an individual who has the right to support the democratic party if he wants to. Clint Eestwood gives a speech at the RNC and you have no problem with that. But Stephen Colbert as a guest at the House Democratic Issues Conference? How dare you Stephen!! You have no right to express your political opinion!!!”

        I found this one particularly funny:

        “Hating someone who you’ve never even met is pretty dumb.”

  • QueenB

    Just want to make sure I have this straight: Kids today are so stupid and unable to support themselves that they have to be allowed to stay on their parent’s insurance until they’re 26, but they’re smart and mature enough to take something such as the morning after pill without even having to tell their parents? Makes perfect sense.

  • Kat Marks Mackenzie

    I am under the impression that most liberal judges and the troll feminist are all brain dead.

  • JoeMyGodNYC

    I am very glad to see the teapeople endorsing teen pregnancy.

    • Matt

      Yet we’re not endorsing complete and utter stupidity. Thus, I will be unable to endorse you.

    • journogal

      Really? How so, because people don’t want to have tweens’ (not teens’) pumped with hormones and not know what the side affects may be? Can parents tell their kids to say “no?” What happened to parental responsibility? We are close to teaching kids, “Hey, don’t want to be responsible, take a drug for it.” So there is something wrong with people who think Plan B should not be OTC and be by prescription, like the Pill is? Is there something wrong with people who think tweens shouldn’t be sexualized?

  • dinkerduo

    Touchy subject because if the girl is having sex (and they ARE having sex) without birth control or STD protection then she should be able to get an OTC birth control—more birth control—less abortions and unwanted pregnancies. Are young girls really going to tell a parent that she had consensual sex at 13-14-15?? Probably not.
    Pedophiles can get the MA pill when ever he wants so this bill won’t change that.

    • journogal

      Side affects…a 13 years old body isn’t the same as a 17 year old. I understand that, yes, kids are having sex, however, Plan B is filled with hormones. Does anyone know the side affects? Why is this being sold OTC and not by script, like the Pill. Even if a kid doesn’t want to tell her parents, how about nurse or doctor?

  • RblDiver

    14oz soda bad. Pill good. Got it.

  • Brad

    I guess conservatives here would rather see their teenage girls getting pregnant?

    • J.N. Ashby

      Sounds to me like they want a nanny state.

    • JR48

      Nope, but I’d rather that the FDA and the NIH advise on the pediatric use of this medication, versus some yahoo judge without a medical background.

      –JR48 who is also an RN/BSN with almost two decades in critical care

    • $36544368

      No, I’d rather see my teenage girls not having sex until they’re married and responsible enough to raise family.

  • JoeMyGodNYC

    Plan B prevents *ovulation*. Full stop. Even some of the hardcore abortion opponents accept that and now focus on so-called “morning after” pills which prevent the implantation of a fertilized egg.

    • mike_in_kosovo

      Depends on *which* drug is given. Ulipristal acetate (Ella ®), which is *also* a “Plan B” pill, appears to be an abortifacient. (Edit to add: *possibly* have an abortifacient effect – human data has not been published in that regard, though warnings about fetal abnormalities have been noted)

      Unlike levonorgestrel, and like mifepristone, ulipristal acetate is embryotoxic in animal studies.

  • $36544368

    Great…my next door neighbor has to wait for a ‘board’ to approve her cancer surgery (3rd stage cancer) which will take several weeks (while the cancer continues to grow), but my other next door neighbor can go out and buy a potentially lethal drug to terminate/prevent a potential pregnancy without even having to be seen by a doctor… /smh

  • Anderson

    WTF? I do believe that this is dangerous and irresponsible. Its dangerous for obvious reasons, kids taking drugs that could have serious health risks and unknown long term risks without their parents even knowing, until they start hemorrhaging in their room. Irresponsible because kids are irresponsible. My daughters couldnt even get to school on time unless I was there to push them out the door, are we really to believe that they will inform themselves and be motivated enough to take this durg within the 72 hour window to prevent pregnancy when they are too lazy/irresponsible/stupid to get free BC pills at PP or swing by the school nurses office to get free condoms before sex? Are you kidding me? This will increase abortions, not decrease them. Maybe thats the plan.

  • Guest

    Have there been any studies on the safety of using this drug every weekend or even more frequently than that? Just curious if kids will be in danger from over using this drug now that a doctor doesn’t need to be involved.

  • anjullyn

    If a child has a bad reaction to this “morning after” pill, will the parents be allowed to sue the judge?

  • notenoughtime

    Parents need to take back their responsibilities when it comes to their children and not leave them in the hands of liberal/progressives that think an 11 year old must have access to Plan B. There was a time when our children were allowed to be children and not be forced into these life altering situations hailed by some who will never be parents – thank goodness. If an 11 year old is pregnant, a crime has been committed.

  • HARP2

    Does it pass their pea brains that if a girl is under legal age ……RAPE has been committed.

    • http://twitter.com/1RandiStarr Randi Starr

      There is no rape in a liberals mind………….only the uncontrollable need to f*&^

  • Mike Faber

    I think it’s funny that it was a Regan appointed judge that made that ruling. I’m sure the right will omit that fact.

    • Squirrel!

      That does add an interesting twist to it. Both sides omit inconvenient truths, though…….. seems one side more than the other.

    • http://www.facebook.com/richard.jefferies.96 Richard Jefferies

      I wouldn’t omit it, but the right can only appoint judges that can pass a super-majority since dems filibuster any they don’t like, where as RINO repubs pretty much give leftist appointees a pass. Still, i love the misdirection. Why bother commenting on the content of the ruling if you can just point and say “Bush did it.”

      • Mike Faber

        I didn’t. Regan did it. And I think it’s hilarious that you brought up filibuster. Demeocrats are pussies and roll over for EVERYTHING Republicans want. Especially when The Gipper was in office. Today, all the Republicans doi is filibuster anything suggested by President Blackenstein. And judges don’t get confirmation hearings at the federal level.

  • http://www.facebook.com/richard.jefferies.96 Richard Jefferies

    Oh boy, now the sex traffickers of underage girls can just put a brown bag full of Plan B pills by the bed they are chained to. Thanks Liberal judges!

  • Raye09

    No I am not celebrating-This is also a blatant infringement on parents individual rights, and sets a precedent.

    One-If a 13 year old commits a crime then CPS lights a fire under her parents. If she wants to buy contraception then she should be required to have parental permission. Not just a singed sheet but the parents need to be present. A 13 year old that feels the need to sleep around they must be missing something in the parental department. Bring up Bristol Palin all you want, the difference is Bristol was 17 and nearly an adult. There is a difference between 13 and 17.

    Two- I have been paying out of pocket for contraception for years. If it was health problem-related it was always covered in part by insurance. Paying your rent and putting food on the table should have a higher priority than having sex. There are cheap options(as low as $5), if your doctor can’t write a prescription conducive to your budget then you need a new doctor. These “empowered women” need to make their boyfriends take responsibility, if he is too immature to wear a condom then don’t have sex with him.

    Three- It goes against my belief in minimal government intervention. The government does not need to fund anyone’s private life(there is a reason it is called your private life). You can’t have it both ways, you are either an empowered woman who can pay her own way, or a weakling who needs the government sugar daddy to pay for her personal items. You either want the government out of your bedrooms, or you want regulation. There is no in-between.

    Four- Faux feminist and their ilk are the same people that shit bricks when a grown woman(say around 21-25) dates a 40 year old claiming “she is being used and taken advantage of” and “He is just a vile misogynistic POS”. I have been told I am too young to know what I really want and I am being “used”(I am 22), yet a 12 year old can make decisions about contraception and be “empowered”. Cut the crap, if you truly think a 12 year old having sex is normal, then why are you so angered over grown women dating grown men?

  • Guest

    I would like to make a point that there are many, many drugs that we have been told over the years are “safe,” only to find out later they cause cancer or other serious health problems, and that’s while being taken as directed. My mother was mocked for refusing to take hormones for menopause. “They are totally safe!” went the rhetoric. Then, about 5 years later the main stream medical community started accepting that some of these hormones do cause cancer. Another case in point as mentioned by another poster is Accutane. I could go on and on, but I think most everyone can think of a drug that was once touted as safe which only later do we realize is dangerous or causes some sort of disease that is worse than the thing we were trying to cure/prevent. For this reason alone this drug should not be available to young girls without doctor supervision, if at all. We know hormones can cause cancer. If we think an 11 year old girl will always take this responsibly and as directed, we are fooling ourselves.

  • lcky9

    1. Can’t buy any cold meds without producing a drivers license and being OVER 18 but the morning after pill can be bought by a 9 year old IF she gets her monthly and can reproduce
    2. ALL meds have side effects IS this Judge able to be sued IF a CHILD gets one of the really NASTY ones.
    3. Well PROGRESSIVES now have the kids.. IF parents do not ban together and get this Judge thrown OFF the bench.. IS he appointed or VOTED into office?? PARENTS should be finding out..
    While many so called DEMOCRATS have been drinking the KOOL-AID that the left has been handing out.. this one just might wake them up..first the president has made congress not relevant NOW the courts are making parents the same..

  • Jazzee

    will the parents of America fight back??? OR JUST the idiot lefties take ALL Your rights as parents away from you? Since when is a 12yr old a ‘woman?’ SOMEONE please call me….what has happened to this great country??? these are KIDS…….young kids not women

  • 4True

    Parents representing the mass of dead or injured children should all be seeing him in court-as the defendant.

  • TJ

    One side whats nothing that can prevent implantation after fertilization cell. The other side wants to call it an abortion even after the baby took its first breath of air. Just where is a common ground when the argument is 9 months apart.

  • arrow2010

    Kids are gonna have sex anyways is the liberal logic.

  • SideshowJon36

    S’all good. We’ll be able to sue the med companies later when all the users get Ovarian and Breast Cancer.

    What’s good for the tobacco companies…

  • irishgirl91

    What does it mean to be 18? As a society we supposedly set this as the standard of adulthood. We then decided they couldn’t drink alcohol until 21. Now, we allow girls to take potentially life threatening drugs without parental permission OR physicians knowledge. One morning your 12y.o daughter could wake up w/leg cramps (you think) and soon a blood clot in her lungs would be your first clue of Plan B.

  • http://Twitter.com/jkerrysforehead John Kerry’s Forehead

    Reading the comment thread below made me LOL. There’s a lefty libtard making the argument that simply making this drug unavailable to children under 18 won’t stop them from having sex and/or obtaining the drug otherwise.

    Isn’t that a similar argument to more gun laws won’t stop criminals from obtaining guns illegally?

    Pick your side, libtard.