Time for a national conversation on assault dogs?

Gabby Giffords, her gun-grabbing husband Mark Kelly and his 18-year-old daughter were vacationing in Laguna Beach last weekend when things turned ugly. The daughter’s 65-pound bulldog attacked and killed a baby sea lion.

JWF asks:

[W]hy didn’t Mark Kelly keep better control of this animal? Why does someone need such a big dog? Is he trying to prove how manly he is or something? How many more sea lions must die?!?!

If we can save just one sea lion from the Kelly/Giffords family …

We eagerly await Jim Carrey’s ditty about dog owners and the size of their private parts.

  • Fire and Adjust!

    Any dog that can take more than 7 bites at a time is an assault dog, and should be outlawed

  • Scott Carroll

    The only people who should be able to own a dog that big are the military and the police.

    • Maxx

      Forgive me if you’re being sarcastic and I don’t recognize it. If it’s the former, good laughs. If you were being serious, this occurred due to poor training.

      The more powerful the dog, the more important it is to have the relationship between owner and pet firmly established. Clearly in this case, the dog controlled it. Even as they beat the dog, it would not immediately release its bite, indicating a dog trained poorly or worse, not at all. If all it took was another animal (even an ocean one) for the dog to escape its owner’s grasp, the owner had no business walking it in a public area.

      That sea lion could very well have been a small child playing in the sand, reaching out to pet the dog.

      And I agree with others. If this had been Palin’s dog, MSNBC would be all over this.

      • kyleco

        Pssst…I think it was a joke.

        • Maxx

          Upon second reading, clearly….and a late laugh from me. However, my secondary point is my main one. This girl had no business walking a dog on a public beach if she is that incapable of handling it.

          • Squirrel!

            I concur.

      • Steve Harmon

        Oh, come on Maxx, reactionary banning is in vogue these days. I’m 6’2″ and have been using firearms for most of my life and have no problems them. The Libs say I don’t need a magazine over 10 rounds. I say to them, “no one needs a dog over 10 lbs, except law enforcement and the military. Who’s with me? “No mag over 10 rounds, No dogs over 10 lbs”! (Repeat as necessary in chant form)

        • Thevelvetkitten

          No libs are screaming…it is the bad owners fault when it comes to dogs..which I agree but they never apply that logic on weapons..they are irrational and lack the ability to see the similarities in responsible behavior for things across the board.
          Please don’t get them started on large breed dogs…they are my protection. I am responsible dog owner/trainer and I support the same for guns..But they don’t need encouragement to see new emotional shiny things to chase.

        • RightThinking1

          Dear Mr. Harmon:

          It has been brought to our attention that you are taller than some others. Under various rules issued by the EOC, DOJ, DOE, USDA, and certain applicable Executive Orders, you are hereby ordered to report for Federally mandated personal burdens which will serve to bring you in line with current mediocrity Equality Mandates.

          Diana Moon Glampers
          Handicapper General

          • E Quilibrate

            That’s gonna leave a mark.

      • Miss Clairee

        Yeah, Maxx! Reactionary banning is all the rage! Hell, I got rid of all my blankets after the Oberlin assault blanket scare…..and got rid of all the sheets too, in case they had been negatively influenced by the blankets. We now sleep under beds of cotton balls. But don’t worry, we dyed all the cotton balls a different color other than white, cause sleeping under “white only” cotton balls would just be downright racist!

        • Thevelvetkitten


        • RightThinking1

          Oops. I’m pretty sure that just saying “cotton” is over the line. I’ll have to check the Chris Matthews Handbook of Dog Whistles to be certain.

          • Miss Clairee

            Oh, please do. I’m sure the mere word “cotton” invokes hysteria regarding slavery in the minds of LIBTURDS, despite the fact that my mother, her siblings and cousins are white and picked cotton every day from sun up to sun down from the age of 5 years old and up…..as was very common in the South! But noooooooo, cotton is a racist thing!

          • RightThinking1

            Miss Clairee

            Well…, it is possible that your parents or grandparents read Uncle Remus stories to you also, in which case, any mention of foxes or rabbits might set off alarms somewhere…, well, in Chris Matthew’s head anyhow.

            I’ve noticed that the Left/Progs wasted no time labeling Dr. Carson ‘Uncle Ben’. Not that they are vicious racists, you understand.

            I have yet to see anyone label a black person as an ‘Uncle Remus’. I think the perpetually offended have a problem there. Uncle Remus was a dispenser of folk wisdom and morality tales, whose validity lies in his presentation. The race-baiters are at a loss. They are offended…, and yet…, and yet, they know the character to be an example of integrity and wisdom. What to do? Well…, nothing…, unless it is convenient. NEVER, EVER, refer to some sticky, knotty, should-be-avoided problem as a ‘tar baby’. Should you do so, the race-baiters will skip right past the wisdom of Uncle Remus and land on your ‘racist’ neck. As they probably will on mine now.

            Update. CNN runs Opinion Piece today:

            “Ben Carson, admirable man with a mistaken philosophy”

            It begins:” Like giddy teenagers, Republican activists have fallen for another charming, personable and accomplished black conservative. Dr. Ben Carson
            is the newest object of their crush, which was born of a desperate need… blah, blah, blah”

            Nope, no bias at CNN….

          • Miss Clairee

            Nope, no bias whatsoevah! Great comment, btw!

          • E Quilibrate

            Uncle Remus was my favorite “uncle” while I
            was in elementary school.

          • RightThinking1

            You will be placed on the Sensitivity/Re-education camp list.

      • AZWarrior

        I am sure it was sarcasm but seriously you make an excellent point. Responsible pet owners train their animals to ensure good behavior. To do otherwise is not only dangerous to others but to the pet itself. The video clearly shows that the dog’s owners are irresponsible and thus their criticism of others for “gun irresponsibility” doesn’t care much credibility.

  • https://twitter.com/tweetyuo Tangchung

    Imagine if it was Palin’s dog. Dog would of been skinned alive by now. Palin in jail, Sea Lion was in protected reserve, leash law was violated.

    • http://www.facebook.com/anthony.bua1 Anthony Bua

      LOL another butt hurt member of the dying tea party.

      If you have to revert to a comparison between dogs and guns in order to make your point then you should know that you have already lost.

      • NachoCheese (D)

        you should know that you have already lost

        How’s that Senate “Assault Weapons” ban working out for you?

      • https://twitter.com/tweetyuo Tangchung

        I never mentioned gun. Call Evelyn Wood.

      • putthehammerdown

        It’s called ‘ridicule to order’ and you fell for it hook, line, and sinker.
        Here’s some more for you :
        Where did ‘the safety’ for the dog reside and why didn’t Mark ‘engage’ it ?
        My gun can’t do what I tell it to, all by it’s lonesome. My dog only does, what I train it to do.
        You can have my dog when you can pry it from my 30 piece bag of ‘beggin strips”.
        When dogs are outlawed, only outlaws will have dogs . [or sumthin’ like that]
        Who **Needs** a large, vicous puppy anyway ? Are you just ‘making up’ for your ‘personal sexual deprivations’ ?
        First, they came for the dogs, and I was silent.
        Then,… they came for the cats, and there was no one around to to alert me…….’cause all the watchdogs were gone …….

      • $45875941

        Anthony, we got the gun ban killed didn’t we? Nice try.

      • mike_in_kosovo

        If the parallel can be so easily made, then you should know how completely *idiotic* your wet-dream gun control laws are.

        Being the #LowInfoLib you are, the point was obviously lost on you.

      • LegalizeShemp

        You mean like the woman who was savagely killed by her neighbor’s two Presarios in SF? Looks like their point has more legs than yours sir.

      • Steve Harmon

        That’s right Anthony, “dying tea party”, you just keep telling yourself that, then you can snuggle up in your little blankey and go nigh nigh knowing that the “big bad tea party” is all gone.

      • RightThinking1

        Interesting. When did your projections of posterior pain begin?

      • wwbdinct


    • http://twitter.com/Gator_Country Stephen K

      Just imagine if it had been your dog, or my dog, that had killed a protected species. The dog would have been instantly impounded by animal control and then put down, and you or I would be facing huge fines and/or jail time. I don’t see any mention of Kelly, Giffords or the dog’s owner facing any of this.

      Like all other laws, these laws are only for us little people.

      • https://twitter.com/tweetyuo Tangchung

        I agree spot on, we would need a lawyer, heavy fines possible jail.

        • E Quilibrate

          Perhaps even euthanasia.

          • Jay Stevens

            Especially for the owner.

    • $7610427

      And death threats…don’t forget the death threats…

    • NillaLatte

      Correction: Palin would have been skinned alive, the dog in jail and the sea lion paraded around Democrat rallies and propped up on Mark Kelly’s knee like a talking mannequin. FIFY.

    • Cruz2016!!!

      You got that right! ..Palin can’t take a step without the crazed and deranged liberals going after her.

    • Cruz2016!!!

      You got that right! ..Palin can’t take a step without the crazed and deranged liberals going after her.

  • dunst43

    When you get down to it, the AKC’s solution to any problem is to bite it. —–channelling Donna Brazile

  • jfcarr

    That’s a poorly trained dog or one that has issues, such as an over-aggressive prey drive or resource guarding, and shouldn’t be out in public. A well trained dog wouldn’t have broken it’s leash to begin with and, even if it got loose, would have responded to recall commands and “leave it” commands.

    • Thevelvetkitten


  • disqus_e2F2oUH6C7

    If it was anyone else’s dog, they would probably be trying to put it down. Hope they have to pay a substantial fine.

  • $45875941

    Let’s get Blumberg on this…..STAT!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/joseph.a.white.16 Joseph A White

    Maybe we should limit all dogs to 7 teeth and outlaw these vicious “assault dogs”?? I thought that California had leash laws on the public beaches. They did when I lived there. And aren’t California Sea Lions protected?? Inquiring minds want to know. But alas and alack…as Hilary would say, “at this point, what difference does it make??”

  • CatHerder

    The opportunities for ridicule of the ‘assault’ mentality just keep multiplying, don’t they? Looks to me like the lefties attempt to demonize scary-looking guns is going to haunt them for quite a while to come.

  • pajamakat

    Why wasn’t this dog on a leash ? Maybe he got pleasure out of watching his dog kill a baby seal. I don’t trust this guy at all. Nor his wife. I am sorry she got shot, but I have a feeling she is not capable of thinking for herself.

    • Jim Denney

      She wasn’t capable of rational thought BEFORE she was shot.

      • pajamakat

        I’m glad you said it Jim. I was trying to be nice. But I really don’t think she is capable at all of thinking. She talks, walks and acts like a child. Enough. I am sick of her and her PHONEY oh so caring husband.

        • Jeremy Machael

          I have always wondered how conversations at home when with these two. (Mark) Hey darling, how was work today? (Gabbie) Great sweetie. I voted to defund NASA today. (Mark) But I work for NASA. (Gabbie) Well I guess that kinda sucks doesn’t it? (Mark) What am I going to do now? (Gabbie) I don’t know. Just go walk the assault dog and get out of my hair.

        • Miss Clairee

          Yep! They (or HE at least) is just looking for his 15 minutes of fame! Much like many others!

  • brewerandpatriot

    Sequestration contributed to the poor quality of that leash.

  • conservativemomma

    What if that had been a child instead of a sea lion? Wonder if Kelly’s daughter has the dog as protection instead of an evil gun?

  • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

    I think you all are missing the point here. Why didn’t the sea lion urinate or puke on the dog? Couldn’t the sea lion have just blown a whistle while waddling to a call box?

    • Jim Denney

      Update just in from DC: Gabby’s BFF Debbie W-Schulz says dog watched “Faux News” B4 walk, speculates on possible link to K-9 anger issues.

      She also plans to introduce a bill to provide “free” whistles to sea lions (pending restoration of sequester cuts).

      • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

        So the “dog” was really a Wacko Bird??

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steve-McCrone/100003805491770 Steve McCrone

        You mean she will get whistles to the sea lions before getting her staff some food as they are starving from the sequester lol

    • Miss Clairee

      Said sea lion obviously had not been taught the fine art of spontaneous menstruation in order to prevent attack! And where was its assault bleach?

    • rogueco

      Word is that Kelly was merely demonstrating how easy it would be for someone to acquire a dangerous animal. Apparently, puppy adoption paperwork allows just about any nut job to own a dog.

      • $7610427

        Wait, wait…I thought it was easier to get an assault weapon than to adopt a puppy? Oh…I’m so confused… Where is MSNBC? I need to be told what to think.

    • Thevelvetkitten

      It should have eaten healthier so it could have waddled faster to get away. Maybe it was all those big gulps.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steve-McCrone/100003805491770 Steve McCrone

        Too bad it was not in a safe zone.

  • disqus_FlD2VMR2RJ

    “We eagerly await Jim Carrey’s ditty about dog owners and the size of their private parts.” ROFL! No kidding.

  • Lamontyoubigdummy

    And here I thought I’d never have a reason to link this.

    My beagle is less “assaulty” than he is just an outlaw.

  • http://twitter.com/die_mich_zwei Spatial Awareness

    These people can’t control their dog… but they want to tell me what weapon I should have access to…… O.o

  • http://www.facebook.com/luke.givens.963 Luke Givens

    Sounds rather sociopathic to make jokes comparing the death of an animal resulting from stupidity and inattention to mass shootings of human beings. #justsayin

    • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

      It’s kind of sociopathic to exploit the deaths of children and adults in order to avoid a simple topic such as mental health.

      • Steve Harmon

        Well put Lisa. Sounds like poor little Lukie needs to get out of Mommy and Daddy’s basement and learn the facts. More people killed in 2012 by bats and hammers than “Assault Rifles” by almost 2 to 1. Registration for all bat and hammer owners. Hopefully these facts will help poor little lemming Luke. Oh, I forgot, facts just get in the way.

      • trixiewoobeans

        OHHHH! SNAPS to the Lisa!

    • $45875941

      Luke, there you go again. Sociopathic?! Maybe you should address your question to your fellow loons at PETA. You people never get it do you?

    • wwbdinct

      That baby sea lion had every right not to live in fear from an attack by a vicious dog. #Libtard

  • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

    Where’s the outcry from PETA, Betty White, Pamela Anderson and Bob Barker?

  • Jack Panter

    Had the sea lion been allowed to conceal carry it could have defended itself against the rabid communist dog.

    • Keith Villalobos

      We should arm all seals with 9 mm barretas,loaded with armour piercing Black talons.Even smart people can be stupid.

  • Maxx

    You know, I can’t seem to recall the last time a Glock escaped from it’s holster to kill anything.

  • waltermitty2012

    The dog didn’t belong to either Kelly or Giffords, it belonged a relative of Giffords and Kelly helped after the owners couldn’t get the dog off of the sea lion.

    The real story is the store that Kelly bought his rifle has recinded the purchase on the basis of his intended purpose. I guess he didn’t mention it was publicity stunt. The store is donating the rifle to raise money.

    • doesn’t matter

      “The dog didn’t belong to either Kelly or Giffords, it belonged a relative of Giffords”

      why do you think this makes any difference at all when it doesn’t?

  • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

    Uh…Where are the Enviro Wackos? And The Animal rights Wackos? If that dog had been owned by a conservative, the Dog would be put down, and the owner would be in Jail! Jawamax 8<{D}

  • Clayton Doering

    Maybe Gov Brown can pass a “Cuomo” law allowing for a dog to have a full set of teeth, but they can only use seven of them.

  • $27789750

    Dog should have been restrained since it was apparently poorly trained. Blame the owner, not the dog.

    • Keith Villalobos

      I couldn’t agree more Jeanie6,these people are Idiots.It is not the dogs fault.

    • Steve Harmon

      Just like all weapon attacks, it’s the owner.

  • Keith Villalobos

    For a couple of people who have higher educations,this is ignorant beyond belief.This is actually the reason why will not walk my dogs in public.Most of these Idiots are not paying attention to there own animals actions while they walk in there temporary Bliss and not aware of the surroundings .what were these fools thinking?,there dog is going to play with a wild animal.Stupid FOOLS!

    • trixiewoobeans

      Higher educations does not mean higher intelligence, as we can all see.

  • Ken Walter

    Libs would never go for any type of ban on dogs. Mostly because in a liberal home the dog is also a registered voter.

  • NillaLatte

    The headlines say “Giffords Pulls Daughter’s Dog off Sea Lion.” Should it not say “Giffords’ Family Dog Kills Sea Lion?” What is the fine for your dog attacking and killing a sea lion (a protected species) on a California beach? Hm? Or are those fines only imposed on mere mortals and not those affiliated with an anointed liberal saint?

    • http://twitter.com/die_mich_zwei Spatial Awareness

      “What is the fine for your dog attacking and killing a sea lion (a protected species) on a California beach?”
      -For the Giffords it was $0.

  • marcellucci

    Ms. Giffords, please keep this in mind: With O’Bamacare and the eventual single payer system it’s meant to be, you would have never been given the treatment you were given to survive your attack…
    Now….where was I?…..oh yeah…
    Bad dog!…..bad, bad dog….

  • Midnight Cow

    If Obama had a sea lion, it would have looked just like that sea lion.

  • RightThinking1

    The real questions here are:
    1. Was the dog registered?
    2 Was it a full-auto pure bred, or a semi-auto half breed?

  • RightThinking1

    I’m thinking the USS Gabby wont have any SEAL’s aboard.

    • Steve Harmon

      You, Sir are an example of what is right about America. I wish I’d have thought of that one. Nice.

  • socalcon

    California Vacation?

    • blueniner

      Hey the grifter is making money off wife Gabby!

  • JustLikeAnimals

    He should shoot that assault dog in the head with the AR-15 he just bought.

  • Michelle

    I think Mark Kelly just got neutralized in the gun control debate.

  • JustLikeAnimals

    Dogs don’t kill sea lion pups. Stupid, irresponsible dog owners do. And this douche bag was allowed to by an AR-15? WTF??????

  • Mark James

    If it is a real attack dog and not just a guard dog, it should have been leashed. Very bad lack of judgement on Kelly’s part. Probably illegal. Big difference between attack dogs and guard dogs.

  • capisce

    Dear Joe Biden,
    FYI: Unlike Gabby Giffords, the sea lion WAS mortally wounded.
    Concerned (about your mental health) citizen.

  • http://Twitter.com/jkerrysforehead John Kerry’s Forehead

    Dog don’t kill sea lions, people with dogs kill sea lions. Therefore, Kelly killed the sea lion.

  • Ifluorou

    The dog surely is a Tea Party member.

  • $5326605

    These retards need to learn to control their dog. The family should not own a dog – they are too careless and dangerous to have a dog.

  • Right Wired

    All of the funny things have been said already.

  • George Washington Mclintock

    1. Protected mammal beaches have signs that say “No Dogs”for precisely this reason, including the one where the story happened.
    2. If any of us brought dogs to a protected beach and they attacked an animal on an endangered list, we’d be charged with violating Federal law and fined into the poorhouse. Kelly skates, just like David Gregory did, Laws for everyone else, and not the liberal elite.
    3. Check the liberal/wireservice coverage of the story. As a few people pointed out, they are hiding the fact that the dog was Kelly’s and that he broke the law bringing it in there. No doubt, to make Mr. Gun Crusader look like compassionate defender of the weak and to protect him from the damage this does to his argument.

  • kim

    Was anyone on hand to hand out assault kit to sea lion? Was it a hysterical female sea lion? Was this a racial crime or a hate crime?

  • kim

    Mayor Bloomberg now wants to ban all dogs. Can’t discriminate bewtween good and evil, greedy assaulting ones.

  • Cruz2016!!!

    Haha, Ok, I get it now…at first I thought you conservatives were starting to act as ridiculous as liberals trying to tie this dog in with politics..but I realize you’re all making fun of the moron liberals and their fight for idiotic laws..

  • CapitalG

    Mark Kelly now says he bought this Assault Dog so he could donate it to PETA. PETA kills dogs, ya know.

  • http://www.nleomf.org/officers/ FlatFoot

    Holy Cow! This uber-elite Mark Kelly guy owns vicious blood-thirsty pitbulls — and he owns guns too!
    Who is this guy?
    Is he an American Hero Astronaut — or an American Gang Banger wanna-be rap star?

    An epically colossal insidious hypocrite and US Constitution loathing flim-flam man steaming pile of bovine excrement is what Mark Kelly is…

  • Sarita Perl

    Obama eats dog…Kelly dog eats baby seals…News at 11.

  • http://twitter.com/Jenn_face TheOnlyJenn

    If you hadn’t been denied that AR-15 Mark, would you have shot the dog or the sea lion for mercy? Was the dog on a leash? If he wasn’t, he should be put down and you fined big time. Never own a dangerous dog you cannot control.

  • JR48

    You don’t own a dog that you cannot control.

    If this was any average person, they would have either been arrested or at least fined because ALL sea lions in California are protected.

    I do not believe that this family meant any harm but if you do not apply the law equally, there is no equality under the law.

  • JR48

    You don’t own a dog that you cannot control.

    If this was any average person, they would have either been arrested or at least fined because ALL sea lions in California are protected.

    I do not believe that this family meant any harm but if you do not apply the law equally, there is no equality under the law.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steve-McCrone/100003805491770 Steve McCrone

    Dam good thing that dog was not near a school. Imagine if it was??????

  • blueniner

    Mark Kelly is a scumbag trying to make hay of his wifes tragedy, a hypocrite on guns and dogs!