Earlier this week, the Inaugural Committee announced that Rev. Louie Giglio would deliver an inaugural benediction.

But yesterday, Giglio withdrew his name after progressives cried “homophobe.”

Left-wing sites like ThinkProgress pounced on a 1990s sermon Giglio gave on the “Christian Response to Homosexuality” and gleefully bullied him out of the inaugural program.

Giglio preached that homosexuality is a sin, gay relationships are a choice and same-sex partnerships should not be “given full standing as any other lifestyle, as it relates to family.” Agree or disagree, the sermon was hardly outside the mainstream beliefs held by many Christians. And in a letter sent to the White House, Giglio wrote, “Clearly, speaking on this issue has not been in the range of my priorities in the past fifteen years.”

Fox News analyst Kirsten Powers tore into the “intolerant left” for claiming yet another “scalp.”

Powers is a Democrat who served in the Clinton administration. Is she being sarcastic?

Nope. Powers has a history of fighting like a girl, even if it means departing from the Democrat party line.

As Powers notes, Giglio has dedicated himself to fighting human trafficking and sex slavery.

In fact, that’s why he was chosen to deliver the benediction. But that’s worth nothing to the Left if he won’t toe every progressive line.

We won’t hold our breath on that one.

Shh. Don’t give them any ideas.

A spokeswoman for the Inaugural Committee said, “We were not aware of Pastor Giglio’s past comments at the time of his selection and they don’t reflect our desire to celebrate the strength and diversity of our country at this inaugural.” Hardly a welcome mat.

Exit question from Powers:

  • Justin Case

    Okay I’m going to take the time to explain this to social conservatives. Had opposition to homosexuality never veered into violence, murder and socioeconomic discrimination there would be no gay agenda to muddy the political environment and prevent fiscal conservatives from keeping taxes low and government small and efficient. You brought it on yourselves and it’s sinking the Republican party like a stone. There are good fiscally conservative minded families who have gay relatives who will never, ever, ever cast a vote for a social conservative.

    • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

      And the fiscally minded people of whom you speak will continue to vote against fiscal sanity by voting for democrats who will sell their grandchildren into financial slavery for their entire lives.

      That’s what I call a high information voter. Good luck with living in Ethiopia in 20 more years.

      • Justin Case

        Run the numbers. There’s supposed to be 3-6% homosexuals in the population. Each one of them most likely has heterosexual parents, Those parents have family and so on and so on. The multiplier effect is devastating. Politicians, Republicans included are already suspect on tax and spend issues. They aren’t going to take the added risk of putting their gay relatives in harms way as well.

        • Shawn Smith

          And you still need to inflate the numbers to make your case. For the longest time, liberals were running the line 1 in 10. The truth is much closer to 2 to 3%.

          • Michael Hampton

            You missed the point.

          • Shawn Smith

            Actually, I think that’s exactly the point. In order to get anyone one their side, the homosexual lobby has had to lie from top to bottom, beginning to end. Small lies and large lies, but lies all through. 1 in 10 people. AIDS affects everyone equally. Homosexual relationships are an exact parallel to normal ones.

          • Michael Hampton

            1 in 10 was because we weren’t counted in the census. There was no way to estimate how many gay families there were because they weren’t counted. And some, due to persecution from their families, would not identify themselves. AIDS does affect everyone equally. We all have the same risks. Granted the cases are much higher in the gay community, but that has to do with the fact that it started there. You can keep trying to denigrate me by using “normal” for straight all you want. It doesn’t change the fact that homosexual couples have families and raise healthy, well adjusted children. No one says that gay relationships parallel straight relationships. Just like single parents aren’t the same as two parent households. And yet both are capable of raising healthy, happy children.

          • Shawn Smith

            No, 1 in 10 is a flat out lie. The real percentages are much lower, most reliable estimates at 2-3%. It’s one among many lies intended to normalize homosexuality and demonize any who would question it.

            I wasn’t aware characterizing 97% of humanity as “normal” was controversial. In other respects, I would think biologically functional, as opposed to a biological dead end (if your claims about it being inborn and immutable were true) is also normal.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            Are you not able to read? 1 in 10 was a guess. And I am not sterile. Please stop trying to lie to people to get your point across. Wasn’t that your original thesis?

          • TexSizzle

            The 10% figure came from flawed studies by Alfred Kinsey, who intentionally inflated the alleged number of homosexuals by studying prison inmates, asking them if they *ever* had *any* homosexual experience, and claiming that they were homosexual if they said yes, even if said experience was as victim of homosexual assault in prison. Even at that, the highest he could come up with was 1 in 10.

        • winoceros

          Sorry….harm’s way?

          • Justin Case

            I’ve read your posts. If my kids were gay I wouldn’t want you to have any authority over them for fear they would not be treated fair and square and likely singled out for derision.

            That is why people will vote against their own pocket book.

            Or, if you meant I left out the apostrophe in harm’s – oops.

          • winoceros

            No, nothing to do with grammar. Just calling you out on yet another baseless accusation of violence to gin up sympathy and false plight. I have plenty of compassion for gays, more than for straights because of the tougher road to happiness and feeling that family is somehow disappointed, even if its never stated.
            The extraordinary way you can magically transform my obvious derision of illogic and ill-thought through positions and distaste for narcissistic activists into some kind of lack of humanity is pretty transparent.

            I disagree with gays thinking their sexual identity is somehow of interest or importance to anyone and to think something as banal and uninteresting as who they sleep with should have any impact on the functionary pegged to give the benediction, which calls on God to bless the endeavor. Strictly speaking, I can’t imagine God would condo e anything these treasonous liars would undertake, but that’s beside the point. You want to accuse me of bring unfair to gay children? And of bias and discrimination when you have nothing to base it on? You don’t like that I defend Christians’ right to consider homosexual acts sinful and not worthy of elevation in society, and convert that to rejection of individual rights and violent tendencies. Where are your critical thinking skills? Just sounds like yet more bullying to me. False conclusions and calling someone unfit to govern children is simply a tactic to shut them up. I have a gay brother in law, gay best friend from high school, gay uncle, and pretty much lived with and around the party gay male lifestyle for two years. I sing…lots of gays in my circles. And I am still trying to tell you that there is nothing about gay relations that should privilege it as any big plus to society through any legal means. They get the same as everyone else. Sexual orientation is a big so what and no one “hates” gays. The anger you sense in people is a reaction to having to endure dealing with unwanted, in your face, constant drumbeat of “me too”-ism that gays and their advocates display when trying to invent social statuses that are pretty unnecessary and devalues or revalues the definition of marriage, millennia old. I enjoy gay couples. I just don’t need someone deciding what Christians consider immoral or socially unhelpful.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            No one is trying to change your mind. You can hate me all you want. Go ahead. I don’t care. I am sorry that you see wanting to share lives, visit each other in the hospital, care for each others children, and have survivorship of property as such trivial and unnecessary. To me, it is pretty important.

          • winoceros

            Nothing you said, not one thing, is responsive to what I wrote. You are an idealogue and have no desire to debate the merits.

            And like one would tell a child, no, I don’t hate you.

    • wwbdinct

      What violence and murder are you going to blame on conservatives?

      • Justin Case

        “,,,opposition to homosexuality” is how I phrased it. Are you going to pretend there is not a long history of violence against gay people in America? You think that was perpetrated by the pro gay lobby? Currently in 2013 which party is considered pro gay? Republicans? I also made a distinction between social conservatives and fiscal conservatives. If you’re not guilty then don’t worry about it.

        • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

          Nice of you to make categories of Conservatism. The problem is that if you separate the two, you end up voting for liberal social programs which add more and more to the already bloated federal and state welfare bureaucracies.

          You can’t vote for “social liberalism” without giving the OK to the wasteful spending that will follow.

          Not agreeing with homosexuality or wanting the legal definition of marriage changed to include homosexuals, does not equal violence towards homosexuals no matter how much you desire that to be so.

          • Justin Case

            You “can” win economic arguments and elections on economic principles but not on religious principles. People aren’t even listening to Republicans anymore about economic issues and one reason for that is because they can’t get past the social issues. Besides using your example of defining marriage how much would that even cost the government to let gay people marry? I’m thinking zero dollars.

          • Michael Hampton

            Actually, in the states that have ratified marriage equality, they have seen millions in added revenue.

          • Justin Case

            That would makes sense. Wedding planners for one would see an increase in their business and “unfortunately” : ) in turn they would pay more taxes.

          • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

            Unfortunately? I would think they would be eager to pay their fair share.
            That’s all gay marriage is about really, is the tax benefit. We all know it, in the early days (I don’t know how old you are, but I remember this shtuff going back a long way) one of the main reasons touted for gay marriage was that is was “unfair” on April 15th.

          • winoceros

            Oh, yes. I’m sure hundreds of thousands of gay couples flocking to those states are making the treasuries burst at the seams. Seriously. How on earth would you manage to correlate redefinition of marriage with a state’s rising revenues?

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            I didn’t. The states that have ratified marriage equality did. New York saw an increase in tourism dollars, an increase in license revenues and, of course the costs involved in marriages. See, I don’t know if you are aware of this, but not all states have enacted marriage equality yet. So gay people will actually go to states where they are allowed to get married for that sole purpose.

          • wwbdinct

            I live in CT. Once again – you lie!

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            “Last summer, a headline in CNN Money announced,
            “Gay marriage boosts NYC’s economy by $259 million in first year.” The
            article went on to report that the economic lift was a result of
            “marriage license fees, local celebrations and wedding-related
            purchases… .” That’s easy to see, since more than 8,200 same-sex
            marriage licenses were issued during the course of one year. CNN
            referenced a national survey of gay and straight newlyweds in noting
            that “[s]ame-sex couples spent an average $9,039 on their weddings,
            while 31% spent $10,000 or more… .” That money is spent on lodging,
            wedding announcements, wedding favors, rings, and all the other usual
            wedding accoutrements and accessories. Those spendings generate sales
            tax revenues.”

          • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

            On the contrary, people who rely on their own labor and not government assistance or sweetheart union deals are very solidly in line with conservative Republican principles. Unfortunately, as Mitt Romney correctly observed, 47% or more of the population is already beholden to the dependency state.

        • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

          Nice of you to make categories of Conservatism. The problem is that if you separate the two, you end up voting for liberal social programs which add more and more to the already bloated federal and state welfare bureaucracies.

          You can’t vote for “social liberalism” without giving the OK to the wasteful spending that will follow.

          Not agreeing with homosexuality or wanting the legal definition of marriage changed to include homosexuals, does not equal violence towards homosexuals no matter how much you desire that to be so.

        • wwbdinct

          Deflection. You stated that opposition to homosexualityfrom the social conservatives veered into violence and murder. Who was beaten up and murdered by social conservatives? Facts please. Facts that gay people were beaten and murdered by social conservatives.

          • Guest

            I on the other hand could point you toward a youtube video of gay activists in Argentina physically and violently assaulting Catholics including women and children who had encircled their sacred Cathedral to prevent the annual ransacking by gay activists.

          • Michael Hampton

            When did we move to Argentina?

          • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

            Argentina is American. I seem to recall any number of “progressive” smartasses who have said, Citizens of the United States shouldn’t call themselves Americans because everyone on 2 continents is an American, nyah; like they’d just figured that out.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            I don’t remember being moved to Argentina. And does that mean that President Obama rules Argentina?

          • Joe W.

            Barky does not “rule” anyplace, Brooth..

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            The American people beg to differ. He is the President of the United States.

          • Joe W.

            NO President “rules”, Shltforbrains. Kings & Emperors rule. Presidents are supposed to govern, but your boy doesn’t even do that. You are insufferable, Cupcake. Leave me alone. I don’t want to get AIDS over the internet from you.

          • Guest

            I on the other hand could point you toward a youtube video of gay activists in Argentina physically and violently assaulting Catholics including women and children who had encircled their sacred Cathedral to prevent the annual ransacking by gay activists.

          • Michael Hampton

            Do you not have google? Look up Fred Martinez. Lawrence King. Mathew Shepard. The list goes on and on. There is a great documentary called “Licensed to Kill” where a gay man interviews men who are in prison for murdering gay people. One man famously shot up a cafeteria in Texas because Clinton enacted DADT and the thought that gay people would be in the military made him shoot 11 people and murder 4.

          • wwbdinct

            Are you referring to the Luby Cafeteria massacre?

          • Michael Hampton

            Yup. His reason for murdering those people was that DADT was enacted. From his own lips. There are many others who murdered gay people just because they were gay and a lot of them got away with it too. Look at Dan White. Conservative who murdered Mayor Moscone and Harvey Milk. He got 7 years. 7 years for murdering two elected officials in cold blood because they supported gay rights.

          • winoceros

            From Daniel Flynn’s history of Harvey Milk:
            “But Harvey Milk’s homosexuality played about as much of a role in his murder as San Francisco mayor George Moscone’s heterosexuality played in his. Their murderer, troubled political neophyte Dan White, had donated $100 to defeat the Briggs Initiative, which would have empowered school boards to fire teachers for homosexuality. White hired a homosexual as his campaign manager and voted as a city supervisor to fund a Pride Center for homosexuals. White wasn’t driven to murder by Milk’s vision of gay rights but rather by something more pedestrian: the
            petty politics of City Hall. What makes for good history doesn’t always lend itself to good theater.

            “In a sign of the instability he would so dramatically display
            on November 27, a cash-strapped White had resigned his seat on the Board of Supervisors on November 10, only to demand four days later that the mayor reappoint him. Mayor Moscone publicly responded by saying that he still regarded White as a member of the board, handed back his letter of resignation, and promised him the seat. Enter Harvey Milk, who saw White as an obstacle to progressive initiatives. As the movie depicts, Milk successfully lobbied Moscone to refuse to reseat the former policeman, fireman, and Vietnam veteran. Believing Milk and Moscone guilty of perfidy, the tightly wound, sore-loser White assassinated Moscone and then Milk.”

            Milk also supported Jim Jones unequivocally. I guess he liked koolaid better than milk.

            And Matthew Shepherd? Come on. Long debunked. Stop living in Hollywood, will ya?

          • CherDash
          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            So he wasn’t murdered brutally just because he was gay?

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            So it isn’t a tragedy that some kids stabbed, dragged behind a car, and set on fire a young man just because he was gay just because you say it was “debunked”?

          • wwbdinct

            That massacre happened before Clinton was even elected President so your lying about that. He killed himself so they don’t really know the reason why but speculation is that he was on a vendetta against white women. Dan White murdered the mayor and Harvey Milk because he was stepped over for promotion and he was pissed off so your lying about that as well. Yes I know there have been men murdered because they were gay. I don’t deny that. Justin Case stated that social conservatives veered toward violence and murder against gays and I asked him to say who the social conservatives were that did this. I did not ask for a list of gay people who have been murdered. I asked for proof that conservatives committed these crimes and there is none. Thanks for playing though. Nothing you ever post has even a shred of truth. You’re just another lyin lefty.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            I apologize. I had it confused. It was Luigi’s in North Carolina.

            “Kenneth Jr. French, murderer of Wesley Cover, James Kidd, Ethel Parrous, and Pete Parrous, who were customers at a Luigi’s restaurant in Fayetteville, North Carolina, after getting highly intoxicated.
            Unlike the other murderers featured in the film, none of French’s
            victims were known to be homosexual, but rather, his act was out of anger toward the then President Bill Clinton for lifting the ban on homosexuals in the United States Military.[7] He is currently serving four consecutive life sentences.”

        • wwbdinct

          Deflection. You stated that opposition to homosexualityfrom the social conservatives veered into violence and murder. Who was beaten up and murdered by social conservatives? Facts please. Facts that gay people were beaten and murdered by social conservatives.

      • Justin Case

        “,,,opposition to homosexuality” is how I phrased it. Are you going to pretend there is not a long history of violence against gay people in America? You think that was perpetrated by the pro gay lobby? Currently in 2013 which party is considered pro gay? Republicans? I also made a distinction between social conservatives and fiscal conservatives. If you’re not guilty then don’t worry about it.

      • Joe W.

        The idiot hasn’t a clue.

      • Joe W.

        The idiot hasn’t a clue.

    • wwbdinct

      What violence and murder are you going to blame on conservatives?

    • Joe W.

      Just more driveling ignorance from the gay, moronic, liberal moon bat dweeb. You know not of which you speak, Cupcake. You gays are more violent than those of us who oppose your vile and repulsive life style choice.

      • Michael Hampton

        So you tell us how non-violent you are towards gay people in a post filled with insults and threats. How lovely.

        • winoceros

          Don’t see a threat here. Reading comprehension problem? I only see insults.

        • Joe W.

          What in my post was violent, Princess? I simply have a visceral revulsion for your immoral, disgusting behavior and lifestyle. I always pray for the souls of you poor, misguided creatures, Mikey. You do NOT have to act upon your perverted desires, either. You can choose to not engage in your sin and still be in God’s Grace. And don’t forget, Twinkles…He’ll forgive you if you repent of your sins and at least try to not engage in them anymore. That’s my prayer for you and your fudge packing pals, Mikey. God has given you the free choice to make. You choose the sin…and you do so at your peril….

          • Michael Hampton

            Thank you for proving my point.

          • Joe W.

            You have no point to prove, Thweet-heart.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            Your wife spent a few extra dollars at the shopping market. You might want to break her arm to teach her what a big strong man you are.

          • Joe W.

            “shopping market”??? What the hell is that, Needlenose?? Are you referring to “Grocery Stores” or something?? And it seems to me that YOU are the “man” who is touting his “manliness” in his blathering posts. Not I. You are a pathetic wimp, Mikey. Nothing more…Nothing less.

    • Joe W.

      Just more driveling ignorance from the gay, moronic, liberal moon bat dweeb. You know not of which you speak, Cupcake. You gays are more violent than those of us who oppose your vile and repulsive life style choice.

    • ZoriahShepard

      You’re not making a case that we be forced to accept to homosexuality if that’s against someone’s core and religious beliefs are you? Wouldn’t that be persecution, too?

      And I know that you’re not lumping in all social conservatives with the extreme evangelical right wingers who go off the deep end, right? Because that would just be silly.

      • winoceros

        To the left, Zoriah, it’s all the same. Any movement under the breath that you don’t want the gay lifestyle paraded in front of your children in first grade and you’re branded a bigoted homophobe, worthy of shunning and dismissal.

        • Michael Hampton

          My desire to marry my husband has absolutely nothing to do with your children.

          • winoceros

            I have known many gay men in my life, and they generally share one overwhelming trait: narcissism. The fact that your holding hands and playing kissy-face with your partner and claiming to be married or whatever is causing my children to wonder what on earth is going on, ask me about it, and cause me to have to share tidbits about sexuality I had no intention of sharing with them for several years is indeed a problem for me and my children. Homosexuality is outside the biological norms. It happens, it’s fine, but it’s not something I intended to spend any time explaining to four- and five-year-olds. The only way to honestly explain your intrusive couplings into the public view of children is to discuss sexual attraction, and (as you hope) bring it into the realm of normal-in-a-three-percent-kinda-way.

            We don’t want to introduce young children to sexual behaviors of any kind outside of those implicit in their nuclear family. You or any other straight person’s sexual antics are not something I want my kids to see or have to think about at all. Yet somehow, here you are, claiming that displaying your unusual biological predilictions through rings or books or the removal of “mother” and “father” from permission slips isn’t affecting me and mine at all. I have gay relatives, too. I would never bring up their sexual preferences to my children unless they were older and prepared, but you, who are not their parents, would have no problem with telling my kindergartener about your “husband” during your little reading time or whatever it is you might do.

            It’s not a bigotry, idiot. It’s a recognition that sexual topics are inappropriate for young children. Have any social graces? Or is there no space for those in your brain since the big gay ganglion is in there?

          • Michael Hampton

            I am so sorry that your relationship is only sexual. Mine is based on mutual respect and common goals. May I ask you what you tell your kids when they see straight couples making out in the street? Why is it different with gay couples? And please try not to be so insulting when you are talking about how insulted you are by my existence.

          • winoceros

            Why are you responding with non sequiturs and red herrings?

            I am objecting solely to the open sexual questions that arise from children’s observations. For Pete’s sake, if they’ve lived with married parents since birth, what sexuality would be outside the norm for them? I already explained that inappropriateness applied to gay and straight couples, if you read carefully. But at least there they already know that men and women are attracted enough to each other to kiss and have families.

            I completely and totally reject the redefinition of marriage. I support gay couples living happily together and having equal access to all legal institutions. I just don’t understand why leftists think they can redefine words to skirt legislation. Just make up your own word for your union and that’s just fine. Just keep your two daddies talk out of my children’s taxpayer-funded school. Open your own gay charter school or whatever. That topic has no place in elementary schools. None. We breeders can address those topics with our children and it’s none of your concern to bring it up in an attempt to help the four-year-old set acclimate to your definition of “marriage.”

          • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

            ‘Course the other funny thing is that all through the hippy era the move was very against the idea of marriage at all. Rapturous prophecies foretold of an era where men & women wouldn’t be forced together in unrealistic commitments, marriage was one of those old dead white man ideas, religious oppression, all the SOS we’re getting now — but going the other way! (Pardon the expression.) One popular lament was “What’s the big deal about a little piece of paper?”

            Why, it’s almost as if some people don’t care about marriage at all, =for itself= .

          • TexSizzle

            As a male, you cannot possibly have a husband, only a wife.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            In 9 states in this country, I sure can. Lying doesn’t make your argument stronger.

          • TexSizzle

            Lying about definitions does not make them change, no matter how many states accept abominations of that sort.

      • Michael Hampton

        No one is being forced to accept homosexuality. You just can’t discriminate against gay people. You are free to hate gay people all you want.

        • Joe W.

          And YOU cannot redefine marriage to suit your perverted life style choice. No matter how much you hiss or fling your purse in our faces.

          • Michael Hampton

            How does my marriage redefine yours?

          • Joe W.

            Because the definition of marriage is a union of one man and one woman in the presence of God. THAT’S why, Cupcake. You cannot call your cohabitation with and perverted sodomy a “marriage”…No matter how much you want to. God says otherwise.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            The law says otherwise.

          • Joe W.

            Not God’s law, Scooter. And that’s the only one that counts, in the final analysis.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            To you. To me, the law of the land is what grants me rights. Your religion has nothing to do with my marriage.

          • Joe W.

            The law of the land is that you CAN marry, Mikey. You can marry any woman who will have your gay azz. Other than that, you are S.O.L…..

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            AGAIN. In 9 states I sure can marry my husband. Nice to know you are obsessed with my posterior, but I am a one man kind of guy so you are barking up the wrong tree. Besides, if you need to insult people to make yourself feel big and strong, you are not anywhere near confident enough to be with me.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            In 9 states in this country I sure can.

          • Joe W.

            Not in God’s eyes you can’t, Cupcake. So hiss away and stomp your pink pumps all you want.

        • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

          I have a daughter who is an adult now. Is it discriminatory to tell us that we can’t get married? Do you really H8 us that much?

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            That relationship is illegal. Mine is not. Fight your own battle to rape your daughter if you want to do that so badly. See? No hate.

      • Justin Case

        I clearly stated none of this would be an issue if people who are not gay paid it no mind. But it went further than that in American society and there is a well recorded history of violence against gay people. That’s why there became a gay rights movement. If people were simply ignoring them or disdaining them in private they would never have had a gripe.

        • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

          Yeah, just in America. Never anywhere else in history, especially not in Saudi Arabia or Iran or Communist China.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

          Umm…NO! that isn’t why there became a gay rights movement. Where do you get this crap? BTW…shall we talk about the violence and high death rate within the gay community?

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            Shall we also talk about the violence and high death rate in the African American community?

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

            Sure but it has nothing to do with gay community. You can talk about it if you like but it doesn’t mean I will respond since it has zero to do with gay community.

    • GTFOBigGovt

      Nothing you are saying here has anything to do with the guy’s speech in the 1990’s. The 1990’s remember? When the Left’s hero Bill Clinton decided DADT and DOMA were perfectly logical. Try and stick to the subject if you want to be taken seriously.

    • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

      Name one.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

      Have anything to back that idiocy up?

      • Justin Case

        This last lost election for one, dummy. See that’s how nice people disagree with each other.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

          You are a total idiot if you think the election had any single thing to do with that stupid statement you made. And if those ‘conservative’ minded families (never mind that isn’t what conservatism is) want to make moral relativism the normal then they perhaps deserve to go down in the ship they punched holes in. Morals are not fluid.

          • Justin Case

            You smell bad and your petulant egomaniacal insistence on force feeding your religious values is shoot all ignorant and killing this country by driving people who want to be free to chose their own religious values away from the party that is supposed to be about low taxes and small government. Thanks a lot for higher taxes and burdening the rest of us with Obamacare dumbo.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

            You are mentally ill and intellectually retarded.

          • Justin Case

            You don’t even score high enough to be considered retarded. You’re medically brain dead.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

            yeah whatever window licking idiot.

          • Justin Case

            OK you paint chip chewing charity case.

  • rinodino

    I like that Kirsten takes on both parties, but the progressive gays won’t stand in the background like the LogCabin group on the right and be good little soldiers, nope, not going to happen and you will lose this one KP

    • Justin Case

      Agreed. On top of which she’s perpetuating the close identification of the Republican party with anti- gay coalitions which is a net loser and doing Obama’s fighting for him. Let Obama explain why he chose this preacher.

      • Matthew Morris

        Which is why the ‘progressive gays’ rolled over for Chuck Hagel and Obama… LGC is at least standing firm. But hey, when have facts ever mattered?

        • rinodino

          Please they will be around when Hagel goes to the Congress, it’s just hasn’t been news worthy YET, wait until the actual hearings, they will be loud, and if Hagel apologizes they will not stand it the way, the difference is that Giglio will not apologize or say that he is wrong……

          • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

            You prove his point. Selective outrage is still not really outrage. If Obama tells you to jump, you will and you’ll like it.

          • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

            You prove his point. Selective outrage is still not really outrage. If Obama tells you to jump, you will and you’ll like it.

          • Joe W.

            That is because he happens to be right.

          • Joe W.

            That is because he happens to be right.

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        • rinodino

          Please they will be around when Hagel goes to the Congress, it’s just hasn’t been news worthy YET, wait until the actual hearings, they will be loud, and if Hagel apologizes they will not stand it the way, the difference is that Giglio will not apologize or say that he is wrong……

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      • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

        O look, how cute! He’s got all his alts together in a little circle jerk, bless his heart!

        • Justin Case

          You’re bald.

  • michael s

    The 2 faced one speaks. To paraphrase grouching whatever she’s for I’m against it.

  • Lady 12

    Kirsten Powers, you rock ma’am!

    • http://twitter.com/equaltreatment Elaine

      See Obama is ALLOWED to ‘evolve’ on the issue, no one else is.

      • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

        Correct, what was His own opinion less than a year ago is now an abhorrent hate crime.

  • Lady 12

    Kirsten Powers, you rock ma’am!

  • http://www.facebook.com/robert.stuch Robert Stuch

    I believe that any pastor that would in-dignify his office, his post, his God, by providing an inauguration to the non-Christian should be cast aside. As for Giglio, I don’t know why he’d even want to be mentioned in the same book, much less a chapter or page with the likes of the left, and even be ‘entertained’ with the thought of participating in the inaugural, in any capacity, if’n it even be true. Any true Christian wouldn’t be caught within a dozen country miles of this tripe.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

      Because Jesus went to the sinners who needed him the most…not the choir.

  • http://www.facebook.com/robert.stuch Robert Stuch

    I believe that any pastor that would in-dignify his office, his post, his God, by providing an inauguration to the non-Christian should be cast aside. As for Giglio, I don’t know why he’d even want to be mentioned in the same book, much less a chapter or page with the likes of the left, and even be ‘entertained’ with the thought of participating in the inaugural, in any capacity, if’n it even be true. Any true Christian wouldn’t be caught within a dozen country miles of this tripe.

  • SansMercy

    The new State Church will strip all freedoms from Christians who don’t support the Left agenda, and the “evangelical” Obama will soon require “freedom of religion” to embrace gay marriage, fringe drugs, abortion and progressive social indoctrination. Christians, you are now the minority radical terrorists that the Left will gladly dismember through government. Its time to rethink the purpose and effectiveness of the church, the popular “contemporary” church’s failure, and how to unify as a group to win back your country rather than hide behind our denominational sects and meaningless mission statements.

    • Shawn Smith

      I gotta be honest, I think a large part of the problem today is much of the church turning its back on the intellect. We’re commanded to love God with our hearts, our minds, and our strength, but I’ve been to relatively few churches that challenge and encourage me *intellectually*.

      I do not believe that Christianity is unintelligent. If you look at our history, that is not the case. I think we need to reclaim this.

      • $30158943

        Here Here. I would say the allegiance with evangelicals and the political right has led to absolute race to the bottom to appeal to our base emotions (fear, hate, etc.) rather than our intellect.

        • winoceros

          The namby pamby state of churches infiltrated by the Left is no place to find an intellectual debate or argument of any kind. There is no fear or hate in the evangelical churches. There are standards, accountability, and reason. You really have no idea what you are talking about.

          • Joe W.

            WINNER, WINNER…Chicken Dinner!!!!!!!!!

        • Shawn Smith

          Please shut your mouth. You have no idea what I’m talking about.

          • $30158943

            That makes two of us

          • Michael Hampton

            So you are complaining about your opinions being stifled while telling someone else to shut up. Ha!

          • Shawn Smith

            Was I complaining about my opinions being stifled? No, I was complaining about someone who fundamentally disagrees with me high-jacking what I said and pretending I’m on his side.

            And keep talking, by the way. Explain why, in light of all I said a day or two ago, I have an “irrational fear” of Muslims. Please keep talking. I’d love to hear you explain all of that away.

          • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

            O btw:

            Narrated by A’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) said: “The first calamity for this nation after theProphet’s death is fullness of their stomachs; when their stomachs became full, they became obese and their hearts weakened and their desires became wild.” (Saheeh al Bukhari)Narrated by Anas ibn Malik (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet said: “It is extravagance that one eats whatever he desire.” (Sunan Ibn Majah)

            Question:

            Is there anything that forbids one to eat a lot, or not to be able to control how much he eats? Any hadeeth,verse, or a book about prohibiting extravagance in foods, or about the prophet’s way regarding foods andeating.

            Answer:

            Praise be to Allaah.Firstly: Gluttony is one of the greatest sins that lead to doom and it causes many diseases and sicknesses, both spiritual and physical, because it leads to sexual desire, then the desire for status and wealth in order to fulfilthe first two desires. Then that generates spiritual diseases such as showing off, destructive envy (hasad),boastfulness and arrogance because of being focused on worldly matters. In most cases that leads to evil and immorality, all of it because of this desire.

            http://www.scribd.com/doc/16045696/Extravagance-With-Regard-to-Food-and-Gluttony-in-Islam

            See? Don’t eat so much and you won’t want to stick your willie in the outhouse, Praise be to Allah!

          • Shawn Smith

            Hey Hampton, I’m asking you to keep talking. Please, tell me why my distrust of Islam is so irrational and hateful. Please explain why you’re “tolerant” and not cowardly for defending it.

            While you’re at it, explain why you hate American Christians who believe homosexuality is wrong, but that homosexuals are people who deserve love and respect, but defend Muslim countries where homosexuals are executed. I’m very curious.

          • Michael Hampton

            I don’t hate Christians. I hate people who try to use their religion to justify their own personal prejudices. I don’t “defend” Islam. I merely stated a fact. That American Muslims don’t attack me and try to prevent me from marrying my spouse. Their leaders don’t send out press releases constantly condemning me. Blaming me for natural disasters. Comparing me to Hitler just because the gender of the person I love is not the same as yours. They don’t fund ad campaigns filled with lies to try and scare people into voting my rights away. They don’t deny me service at their businesses because they feel that even doing business with a gay person is somehow changing their beliefs. They don’t use their children as political pawns or deny that gay people can and do have families. No one is trying to stop you from believing that homosexuality is a sin. You are free to believe that all you want. You just can’t use that to deny me rights.

          • Shawn Smith

            And yet you still refuse to address the my biggest questions. You still call me bigoted for stating facts your political correctness forces you to ignore.

            I wouldn’t deny you any rights; I’m just not particularly in favor of awarding you special rights, which is what you’re really asking for.

          • Joe W.

            Mikey, Bless his little gay heart, is not capable of grasping this concept, Shawn. I have sparred with him so many times…its worse than running around in a circle. Sorta fun trapping like you did with the Islam thing. He can’t answer, so he just ignores or denies his own statements. Enjoy watching you slap him around….keep up the good work… :-)

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

            Oh man you are stupid.

          • wwbdinct

            Oh please. Not only are you a liar but you’re a drama queen as well.

        • WisconsinPatriot

          Based on WHAT? Be specific.

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          • Shawn Smith

            I still think intolerance is a bit more of a problem when you can legally be KILLED for converting away. That might be a *bit* more intolerant than anything in your precious little book.

            Where does that happen? Oh, numerous Muslim countries . . . you useless twit.

          • $30158943

            Yes, you are better than a terrorist, marginally, well done. Your mother must be proud. Thanks for playing.

          • Shawn Smith

            And you’re marginally better than late stage syphilis.

          • $30158943

            That explains your dementia.

          • Shawn Smith

            That’s not from personal experience, I’ve been observing Bill Clinton.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

            Reality is you are a terrorist as well.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

            I bet you call yourself intelligent yet you just made a bigoted remark based in stereotype and posted links to places that trade on a reputation that is based in stereotype. STUNNING!

          • $30158943

            And do you call yourself a self righteous scold. Sometimes stereotypes have a basis in reality. This is one of them

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

            No you call me a scold but I call BULLS EYE! just by your response. Thanks for playing. I love tapping people’s dots!

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

          The trouble is with you and your kind any opposition to any single thing is categorized as ‘fear’, ‘hate’, etc to shut down opposition and free speech. You have the depth of a teaspoon and the emotional maturity of a toddler.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            Calling your ignorant world view “fear” is in no way trying to shut down your right to express your ignorant world view. It is merely stating a fact. You still have every right to prove to EVERYONE how you have survived this long without any intellect at all.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

            Are you still talking mental midget? You scream cry and have tantrums and label every single thing that is oppositional to your world view as bigotry all the while using bigotry to express yourself. You have no facts, only temper tantrums of the sickest kind.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            And you still haven’t given me one example of where I have shown myself to be a bigot. Please either put up or shut your mouth.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

            YOUR ENTIRE POST!
            Who is going to shut me up tool? YOU? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You are so delusional. You think you can label something you disagree with and that just makes it so. You are a ignorant bigot that has nothing in your arsenal but misnomers, labels and threats. What a weak little man you are. Your best foot forward every day is in the form of projection.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            And you just did the same thing you accused me of. That is called being a hypocrite.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

            So now you have another word you don’t understand the meaning or application of. Battin’ a 1000 aren’t ya?!

    • Shawn Smith

      I gotta be honest, I think a large part of the problem today is much of the church turning its back on the intellect. We’re commanded to love God with our hearts, our minds, and our strength, but I’ve been to relatively few churches that challenge and encourage me *intellectually*.

      I do not believe that Christianity is unintelligent. If you look at our history, that is not the case. I think we need to reclaim this.

    • $30158943

      BS. What is the State Church? Your wingnuttery has found a new perch of detachment from reality. BTW the pastor removed himself.

      • SansMercy

        Listen, zipperneck, I don’t expect you’ll catch on to the importance of long-term consequences with this administration and freedom of religion, but most wont because its easy to bury heads in the sand vs face the fact that the church is weak, Christians are becoming suckers and our Muslim, evangelical, pro-gay marriage, patriot, socialist tool of a president doesn’t have the cojones to contradict the even one gay that voted for him because he’s a true chicken sh*t, so we’ll have a church who’s mandates come through Left activism and enforced by BHO and a newly appointed gay lap monkey police squad – and probably by “executive order”.

      • winoceros

        How odd that the intellect-bashing Left cannot see the rigor and devotion and fanaticism they hold for the government and the total shredding of Americana, yet they claim to be the smartest people in the room.

        As often happens with bullies, smart guy, the pastor “removing himself” is the same thing as being shouted out of the village with a red “A” on your bosom.

        Why is it ok for the Left to bully? Because when they are called out as hypocrites, the fact that they have removed accountability, and ultimately, removed shame for not responding ethically and morally to accountability, they find no conflict or problem in their hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is only a problem for those who feel bad exhibiting same.

        What is the State Church. For Pete’s sake. Why aren’t you asking yourself why Obama would have a benediction at all at his event? Isn’t that just useless superstition? Don’t claim a benediction, bash the Christian invitee, and then denigrate him because his Christian doctrine specifically decries the homosexual act as immoral and de facto adulterous. Just bash Obama for having a benediction and leave Christians alone. When will the leftists masquerading in their Christian costumes of “normal” just go ahead and reject Christ and be done with it? Why bother pretending anyway?

        • Shawn Smith

          Why bother pretending? Because there are still enough people who have a token loyalty to Christianity that they have to persuade. Nevermind that Christianity very clearly contradicts many of their political positions.

        • Judy B

          I believe they did reject Christ, at the Dim Convention…

          • TexSizzle

            Three times.

    • Michael Hampton

      No freedoms are being taken from anyone. You are still free to go to church. You are still free to worship God. This man made hateful statements and they are coming back to bite him. He didn’t apologize for them. And people are allowed to choose who they associate with. No one wants to associate with a bigot. So just because people don’t like to be associated with people who are consumed with their hatred of gay people rather than focusing on their own lives and taking care of their own children instead of worrying about the unborn child of someone in another state, doesn’t mean you are losing any freedom. You are confusing losing popularity with freedom. They are very different things.

      • Shawn Smith

        I’m not free to run a business in a way that is consistent with my beliefs any longer. I’m apparently not free to criticize Islam or the administration might start looking for an excuse to jail me. If I’m healthy and keep myself in shape, I’m not free to *not* buy health insurance. Catholic adoption agencies are shutting down in states favoring homosexual “marriage” because they’re not free to follow their own conscience.

        Yes, freedoms are being taken away.

        • Michael Hampton

          The catholic church CHOSE to shut down adoption services because they are not allowed to discriminate against gay couples. They feel it is better for a child to suffer in an orphanage than to be adopted by two parents who love them. You can run your business as you want but you still can’t discriminate. I don’t understand what is so hard to understand. If you said “I don’t want jews coming into my store” then you would be branded a bigot, and rightfully so. It is the same to say that you can’t serve gay people the way you would anyone else. And doing your job and serving all of the public doesn’t change who you are or what you believe. I don’t see why this is so hard for you to understand. You can still hate gay people all you want even if you have to serve them. I am a real estate agent and there are people that I don’t like, but I still have to pretend to like them and treat all people the same because it is my job. It doesn’t change who I am. And you certainly haven’t tried to cut down criticizing Obama or Islam for being so deathly afraid of reprisal.

          • Shawn Smith

            I’m talking about Obamacare and the contraception mandate, you useless twit.

          • winoceros

            Now, children that would have found good homes will languish waiting, or worse, adoption choices won’t be made by mothers, because they aren’t confident their children will go to “normal” homes.

            Here’s an idea you haven’t thought of: open a gay adoption agency and leave the Catholic ones alone. If your ideas are so valuable, let the market decide. I’ll bet it would be very successful and both parties would be satisfied. Why do you only think my way or the highway? Again, they were bullied into closing since catholicism clearly states that homosexual acts are sinful. What does that have to do with finding homes for babies? Get your baby somewhere else.

          • Michael Hampton

            Do they also deny children to people who have been divorced? Do they ask if the parents have ever cheated on each other or if they had sex before marrying? Do they not put kids in homes with overweight people? All of these are also sins. It was discrimination. I’m sorry that you don’t understand that if you serve the public, you have to serve all of the public.

          • Joe W.

            You are so incredibly stupid and insufferably obnoxious in your incessant endeavor to force the rest of us to view your behavior as anything other than perverted, disgusting and certainly nothing to accept, promote, or legitimize through granting it special recognition. Go feed your gerbil, Sparkles.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            AGAIN! My marriage doesn’t affect you in any way shape or form. You can still be an obnoxious bigot all you want.

          • Joe W.

            You have NO ‘Marriage”, Thweetheart. No matter how much you whine and bleat about it. You live in a sinful, ungodly relationship with yet another lost soul. enslaved by his perverted lifestyle choice. Simple as that, sonny. Simple as that.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            Oh. I thought I lived in a nice neighborhood with friends and family with my partner and we were building an amazing and fulfilling life together based on our mutual respect, admiration and common goals. I didn’t realize how terrible my life is. Thank you for telling me.

            And Thweetie? I am more of a man than you could ever be. I don’t need to put other men down to feel manly.

          • Joe W.

            You have professed your “manliness” to me before, Sparkles. Didn’t buy it then…don’t buy it now. Men do not do the disgusting things you do with other “men”….Fairies do that……And you, my little gay friend, are a fairy. And an obnoxious little one at that.

          • TexSizzle

            Marriage consists of a man, the groom, and a woman, the bride. Anything else, even if you call it marriage, is *not* marriage. And claiming that you, a man, have a husband, does not make him your husband. You can lie to yourself all you want, but it’s still a lie.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            Marriage is available to gay couples in 9 states. You saying that it isn’t a marriage doesn’t negate that fact. You are the one who is lying. The law says that we are married. Now go and rape your children.

          • winoceros

            That’s pretty warm and fuzzy stuff. Do you think the kids of your “normal” gay couple friends will enjoy your latest tweet, elevating you into Ward Cleaver-like status: “You kiss your grandmother’s vagina with that mouth?”

            It must be a pleasure to be building such an upstanding place in society. I’ll bet you’re the nicest one.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            I was attacked and insulted repeatedly. I merely responded in kind.

          • TexSizzle

            Abraham Lincoln is said to have asked one of his generals, “If you call a dog’s tail a leg, how many legs does the dog have?” The reply: “Five.” Lincoln: “No, four. Calling a tail a leg doesn’t make it a leg.” Calling what you do marriage doesn’t make it marriage. And as for raping children, that’s a leftist, and especially homosexual (NAMBLA) thing.

          • winoceros

            No, what happened in Massachusetts is a law was passed that had the effect of preferring redefinition of marriage, which had the effect of changing the criteria for adoption with an existing agency without their choosing it, making it impossible for them to be in that business. So a law that has not yet made exceptions for religious freedom forced them out of business. Their business isn’t pleasing barren couples: their business is serving God and finding the most ideal homes possible that meet the Ideals for children mentioned in the Bible. This would expose children to the ongoing sin of homosexuals who do not repent nor cease their sin. There is no precedent for gay adoption in the Bible so they don’t do it. Your feelings and Massachusetts law cannot make them give babies to a union not blessed by God.
            You ignore the point about those that will not now be adopted or will be killed instead as irrelevant. You ignore the idea of havin a gay adoption agency. You want to send out a straw man about other sins. “All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God,” so it is moot about these other conditions. It is not fair to a child to have to be placed in a gay home, with all its disadvantages, to the Church, when kids in married heterosexual homes are at the very least, morally acceptable, and there are waiting lists for these children. Also, I don’t know the answers to the questions you pose about fat or divorced. Have you written and asked them? As to “serving the public” the mistake you and the courts make is that the “product” the produce is families with a heterosexual married mother an father. That’s what they do. It’s like telling an auto shop that only does imports he must service domestic also, or a dressmaker she must make a tuxedo or she is discriminating against men. CC was trying to serve a segment of the population that provided the raw materials for their “product”: traditional families.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            It is fair to have children in gay households because gay households are perfectly normal. And again, the Catholic church chose to shut themselves down rather than to treat everyone the same. That was their choice. Allowing for marriage equality simply said that they couldn’t discriminate. And as you say, we all sin. So why does this one sin seem to be the only one the church is willing to spend millions to defeat?

          • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

            ‘Course what’s so REALLY amusing, is that of the classical “Seven Deadly Sins,” it’s only the “Lust’ one that lefties/progressives/whatever tf seem to have a problem with. I mentioned before Nanny Bloomberg and his ilk’s war on obesity (not to say it isn’t a problem or an issue): well, there’s Gluttony, speaking of which. Greed? That’s all we’ve been hearing about for the last few years, hearing us “greedy” Murrkans excoriated for thinking the money we earn is actually ours! Anger? H8er! I won’t rehearse the whole litany, but they are mostly tangent on selfishness of one kind or another — once more, the summum totum of the “progressive” creed. Iit seems “progressives” are almost woefully conservative and unimaginative, after all. Oh well, 6 out of 7 aint bad, I guess.

      • Shawn Smith

        By the way, I noticed in our discussion of “Islamaphobia” that you disappeared once I started showing you hard facts. Can’t defend yourself?

        • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

          I didn’t “disappear.” I have a job. I can’t spend all day sparring with you. And quite frankly, I don’t care. Hate Muslims as much as you hate gay people all day. It doesn’t affect me.

      • Garth Haycock

        “No one wants to associate with a bigot.”

        I would find it ironic that you, of all people here, would say that, considering the things you said about Mitt Romney and Mormons, if it was unexpected that you would say something like that.

        • Shawn Smith

          Yes, but hatred and discrimination done perpetrated by the left are actually acts of love if only our stupid, conservative minds could only understand it.

          • Garth Haycock

            An excellent point. If this is the ignorance from which bliss comes, I like it.

        • Michael Hampton

          I have never said anything derogatory about Mormons. When I mentioned Romney’s religion, it was because all of his “charity” that people kept trying to tell me about. It was only donations to the Mormon church so that they could buy a theme park.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

            Your posts here alone are bigoted…we can just skip the Romney stuff.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            How? How have I shown an intolerant view of a group of people based on no reasoning? My posts have only been aggressive when I have been attacked.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

            Really? Are you that clueless?
            Seriously???

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            Tell me. If I am truly bigoted and it is as plain as you say, show me one instance of my being bigoted.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

            All of your posts. It is patently obvious that you don’t understand the meaning of bigotry and it’s proper application. The post I responded to about Romney and charity is exhibit A. If I were teaching bigotry 101 I would use it as an example.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            And yet again, you have not shown anything that I said that was bigoted against Romney or the Mormon church.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

            Read your posts. Problem is you don’t understand the definition of bigotry or it’s application. Go back to school. This whole post is bigoted and nothing in it is factual. Your ‘reasoning’ is based in bias and not objectivity which makes it bigoted. If you can’t see it then I truly pity you.

            “I have never said anything derogatory about Mormons. When I mentioned
            Romney’s religion, it was because all of his “charity” that people kept
            trying to tell me about. It was only donations to the Mormon church so
            that they could buy a theme park.”

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            Bigotry is defined as “intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.” I am tolerant and have listened to anyone who would make a factual argument. No one has. The statement you quoted was made after you accused me of bigotry so therefore doesn’t support your initial accusation. Understand? And besides, I wasn’t criticizing Romney in that post or the Mormon faith. I was merely pointing out that calling buying an amusement park “charity” is hardly apt. See?

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

            No you have preconceived notions and opinions that you seek to fit into your world view. Anyone who disagrees with facts are labeled despite the fact that the person labeling is incapable of seeing his own flaws. Perhaps that Bible you so readily dismiss you just might want to open and learn something. Start with ‘Take the plank out of thine own eye before examining the splinter in mine,’ or to put into modern terms…you point the finger but take no notice of the three pointing back at you. Your life you think you are living is a facade.

            Now get a life and quit wasting my time. This is a blog not a chat room.

      • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

        in the past, homosexuality was considered a perverted sexual behavior whereas now it is being labeled as ‘natural’ and as a result of ‘inborn tendency’ !

        All revealed religions, Judaism, Christianity and Islam form a united front against such sexual behavior. It has been clearly condemned in the Bible and the Qur’an.

        In the Islamic legal system, homosexuality is a punishable crime against the laws of God. In the case of homosexuality between two males, the active partner is to be lashed a hundred times if he is unmarried and killed if he is married; whereas the passive partner is to be killed regardless of his marital status. In the case of two females (i.e., lesbianism), the sinners are to be lashed a hundred times if they are unmarried and stoned to death if they are married. (See the chapter on “hudud” in Sharaya and Sharh Lum’a also al-Khu’i, Takmilah, p. 42-44.

        The homosexuals are considered as the high risk group for Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS). This shows that nature has not accepted it as a normal sexual behavior among mankind. The homosexuals are told that in order to have safe sex, they must use condoms. If homosexuality without condoms is not safe sex, then how can it be natural? Isn’t the statement that “it is natural but not safe” a contradiction in itself?

        http://www.al-islam.org/m_morals/index.htm

        ALLAH ACHBAR!!!!

        • Michael Hampton

          All sex without condoms is not safe. HIV/AIDS does not discriminate.

          • Shawn Smith

            In America, yes, it does. Pretending it’s an issue that affects everyone is another of the lies of the homosexual agenda. In Africa, it’s a different story, but in America, unless you’re part of a few clearly defined risk groups, of which homosexual men is one, you’re pretty much safe.

            In case you’re curious, by the way, credit for that goes to one terrifyingly promiscuous gay man. You might even listen to the source since it’s public radio, and therefore very liberal. http://www.radiolab.org/2011/nov/14/

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            One promiscuous gay man doesn’t make all gay men promiscuous. Just like the existence of Jenna Jameson doesn’t make all women whores. See? And you tell your kids that they won’t get HIV/AIDS and don’t need to bother with condoms. See how well that works out for you.

      • Judy B

        Nothing in his sermon indicated hate, you libtards are all the same, you never use facts, just the party line. Homosexuality is a sin, like it or not, so says God!

        • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

          God actually didn’t say anything about homosexuality. The Bible wasn’t written by God. It was written by men, thousands of years after Jesus lived. And even Jesus never mentioned gay people. The modern idea of a gay relationship didn’t exist then.

          • Shawn Smith

            We’re only two thousand years after Jesus. If you’re going to insult my religion, at least try to get some of the most basic facts straight.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            Two thousand years are multiple thousands of years ago. And I didn’t insult your religion. I explained mine.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

            The Bible is considered to be the word of God. All of the reaching and scrambling about homosexuality isn’t going to change that. There is a reason it is the smallest minority on the planet.

  • SansMercy

    The new State Church will strip all freedoms from Christians who don’t support the Left agenda, and the “evangelical” Obama will soon require “freedom of religion” to embrace gay marriage, fringe drugs, abortion and progressive social indoctrination. Christians, you are now the minority radical terrorists that the Left will gladly dismember through government. Its time to rethink the purpose and effectiveness of the church, the popular “contemporary” church’s failure, and how to unify as a group to win back your country rather than hide behind our denominational sects and meaningless mission statements.

  • clarioncaller

    My Church teaches, ” Love the sinner, HATE the sin”. Ephesians 6:12

    • Michael Hampton

      Do you also teach Proverbs 23:2 “and slit thy own throat if you are given to gluttony” by telling fat people that they don’t deserve to get married?

      • Dioptase

        What does Proverbs 23:1 say? Surely you wouldn’t quote someone’s holy text out of context in an attempt to score points with your peers…

        • Michael Hampton

          Why not? They do it to me all the time to try and justify their hatred. The Bible is very clear on the moral failings and sin of overeating. Fat people are unrepentant sinners. Why isn’t the Catholic church going after the obese?

          • Shawn Smith

            Perhaps because obese people aren’t waging a concerted campaign to re-make society in their own image?

          • Michael Hampton

            And yet, it is condemned over 60 times in the Bible. You tell me that you don’t like homosexuality because it is a sin based on 6 passages in the Bible. I would think something mentioned that much is also important. You also keep telling me that we are only 2% of the population. And yet “christians” spend millions upon millions of dollars trying to deny me the right to marry my spouse. They tell me that I am an unrepentant sinner. So why aren’t you out there calling fat people unrepentant sinners? Why aren’t you trying to deny other sins the right to marry? Why aren’t you trying to prevent people who have sex outside of wedlock from marrying?

          • Shawn Smith

            You have the same right to marry as I do. You can marry anyone of legal age, who you’re not related to, who is not already married, of the opposite sex. No one’s trying to deny you that.

          • Shawn Smith

            By the way, real marriage has a number of societal benefits. Your “marriage” doesn’t, and in fact, further damages the already weak institution in our society. Real marriage “tames” men, lowering testosterone levels. Real marriage provides a stable, sane base for raising children. Real marriage, by promoting monogamy, teaches selflessness in a way that commonly promiscuous long-term gay “commitments” won’t.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            I am not promiscuous. Can I get married now?

          • winoceros

            Sure, to a woman. Same as everyone else. Look, ma, no discrimination.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            How sad that you despise women so much that you would force them to marry gay men just so that you can “protect” marriage.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            My marriage is exactly the same as yours. And the fact that you think men need “taming” shows how outdated and foolish your arguments are. Now go slap your wife around, she is getting uppity.

          • winoceros

            You sure do talk about violence a lot for such a domesticated guy.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            When I am attacked repeatedly by mental midgets, I respond in kind.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            One more time. Tell me how my marriage affects yours? How does it “redefine” your marriage? How does society change if I can visit my spouse in the hospital? Do you even realize what you are saying? And if society is going to be so radically changed, why hasn’t it happened already? 10 years is a long time to wait. Where is this radical redefinition?

          • winoceros

            It doesn’t redefine his marriage. It is an attempt to redefi e the term to include things not previously included in the definition. The effects have already been explained to you and it does not surprise me in the least that you cannot see the damage done to children by expanding a millennia-old definition of an institution that exists to serve children and legacy.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            What about my children? They don’t deserve to have their other father legally bound to them in the same way?

          • Shawn Smith

            Planning on defending your comments about “Islamaphobia” by the way? Or are you going to run from the facts like a coward?

          • winoceros

            Ah, but now we’re back to The State Church, which is spending billions to regulate behavior, since their view is that fat people are unrepentant sinners. N’est paz?

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            We spend billions on health care for the 2/3 of our country that is already obese.

          • Dioptase

            What is it, though, that you’re trying to accomplish? “Oh yeah?” isn’t a message that has much corrective power in any circle let alone a conservative one, and it isn’t going to make you feel any better about what they said — whether they quoted something in context or not. So why bother?

            If you want to say something, why not make a reasoned argument against their interpretation/context instead? At least then you’d know for yourself that you made a civil effort to forward your position regardless. That’s more than many commenters can say for themselves, politically left or right.

          • Michael Hampton

            I think my point was very clear. The church is only persecuting homosexuals. They are saying it is because it is a sin. When they treat all sins equally and follow every tenet set forth in the Bible themselves, I will accept their condemnation. Until then, it is merely persecution.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

            Okay this tells me you know absolutely nothing about the Bible and sin since not all sins are equal and not in any context known to the Bible, man and civilization. No one I know or ever heard of equates homosexuality with murder…and that is but one example of millions!

          • Joe W.

            How do you know or presume to assume that obese people are not repentant? You are a hypocrite of the first order, boy. Being obese in and of itself is NOT a sin, pal. Neither is being a homosexual. However, gluttony as well as homosexual BEHAVIOR IS sinful. Drinking to excess is sinful as well. As an alcoholic, sober for 23 years, I am no longer guilty of this particular sin. I repented of my behavior, asked forgiveness, and I have NOT repeated my sin. I am failing in other sinful areas, son, but I always repent and TRY to remain without sin. But being human, that is not possible. And that is precisely why Jesus atoned for my sins on the Cross at Calvary, and why I shall remain eternally grateful to him and will do all in my power to lift him as my Lord and my Savior. I will still pray for you, Mike, even though you would prefer I did not…

          • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

            You mean like Nanny Bloomberg does? Him and the rest of the elitist health Nazis who are constantly lecturing us about the “obesity crisis” and who then point laughing fingers at photos from sites with names like “People of Walmart.”?

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/44F4AB4VSCTOCHBMBG4ZWWD5OU Laurel

            People like you who profess to be knowledgeable but in reality are ignorant personify evil at it’s core. Taking the Bible, actually just verses of the Bible, in a stand alone isolated context to distort and twist for one’s own personal gain deserves it’s own special ring in hell. I suggest you read those Bible passages again, in context to one another, then remember free will and where that came from as well. Shame on you.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            And yet you do that to me with the 6 passages that you use to condemn me. You twist what they actually mean in the context of when they were written without thinking that there might have been another meaning just so that you can feel justified in your hatred of gay people.

      • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

        You would need to ask a rabbi about that, since it part of what Christians call the “Old” Testament, which we consider superceded in large part by the “New” Testament.

        So go ahead. Pick on the Jews for that one, we’ll wait.

        • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

          Then why do you use so much of the old testament to condemn gay people?

      • TexSizzle

        *Thine* own throat if *thou art*” or “*your* own throat if *you are*”. Unless you have a translation made by someone without a clue about obsolete pronouns and number agreement.

        • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

          Doesn’t negate what I said.

          • TexSizzle

            Maybe not, but if you don’t get the grammar right, it casts doubt on the logic, or lack thereof. It also demonstrates that you aren’t using source material, but trying to make a point out of thin air.

  • clarioncaller

    My Church teaches, ” Love the sinner, HATE the sin”. Ephesians 6:12

  • http://Twitter.com/jkerrysforehead John Kerry’s Forehead

    If only the rest of the educated leftist media would come around too.

  • EastValleyConservative

    I disagree with Kirsten on a lot, but she does call out the left when they pull nonsense.

  • Cal

    Powers is one of the few lefties that I have any respect for.

  • http://twitter.com/mesh622 Michelle

    The “tolerant” expose their intolerance. hypocrisy at its worst.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZR4D5E2WTOI4MSKK7AJS6EG3OA Everybodys All American

    Kirsten is not going to be part of the left for very long and It happens to some as they grow older and get tired of the hypocrisy.

  • R.C.

    And Dinnerjacket from Iran is welcomed, even requested, to speak when in the U.S. Whats Irans policy on gays?

  • fred5676

    Kirsten is obviously a card-carrying Conservative in disguise as a Democrat.

    Logical, clear-thinker, rational, and too good-looking to be a real Dem.

  • BeeKaaay

    “Intolerant left” is repetitive. All leftists are intolerant.

  • Waynester

    I reminded Kirsten that the “Intolerant Left” is part and parcel of the Democrat Party for whom she unfailingly votes & is a public advocate. No response.

  • Elizabeth

    Kristen Powers is a beautiful woman, inside and out. Hope I am not insulting her. She is a good liberal.

  • Zach Peterson

    Apollumi.com coined a word for the gay militants: intolophobes… afraid of not being intolerant enough… a hater. An ideologue of the homosexual nature. lol

  • C_W_W

    In 1990…What was Obama’s preacher sermonizing about?

  • dwsmokin

    Wow, these folks sound more and more like the “party” of the ole USSR every day. Wonder when the cool Prez will start building gulags for “reeducation”?

  • Midwest Mom

    This exact thing is happening in Jacksonville, IL at Illinois College. The president of the college invited the bishop to speak at baccalaureate and the faculty want him disinvited. The president won’t rescind the invitation. The faculty do not even want a Catholic bishop to speak at a religious event. They want to hold an alternative event.

    They are teaching today’s students that only one opinion matters. I guess they have stopped teaching the first amendment at that school.

  • Guest

    she’s so fine

  • salvagesalvage

    Isn’t it a shame? Why can’t it be like the good old days when fags knew their place and you could say anything about them without consequence! First you couldn’t do it with Blacks and now the homos.

    Awful what America is becoming.

    • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

      Amen! What I want to know is when my sister and I will be able to come out of the closet too and parade our love to the world.

      It’s just who we are.

      • salvagesalvage

        Ha! Ha! Yes! Being gay is just like incest!

      • salvagesalvage

        Ha! Ha! Yes! Homosexuality is just like incest!

    • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

      I know! You used to be able to punch your wife with a closed fist in a crowded restaurant and everyone would just assume she was asking for it! Now they call the police. You used to be able to drag a black person behind your car and the whole town would cheer as you drove by. Now they call the police. What a shame things had to change, huh?

      • salvagesalvage

        It really is, damn those dirty hippies and the 60s!

  • Mellow Melon

    That last tweet is utterly terrifying: “Why associate with active bigots?” This is what scares me so much about the gay rights movement: because they perceive *mere disagreement* as HATEFULNESS! Literally, one time on Yahoo!Answers, I asked someone why it was hateful to disagree with them, and they told me because there wasn’t anything I could disagree with – that I could not disagree with “who they were.” I also recently read an article in which the author speculated that redefining marriage to include homosexuals will eventually lead to people being bullied just for disagreeing with homosexuality or viewing it as a sin.

    • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

      So you are afraid that people will persecute you for persecuting gay people for no reason? Really?

      • Mellow Melon

        Dude…I specifically said, “what scares me so much about the gay rights movement: because they perceive *mere disagreement* as hatefulness”. I’m not talking about being called a fag (which is wrong) or being bullied (which is wrong). I’m talking about literally just saying, “I don’t agree with homosexuality, and here’s why.” I can show you a discussion I had with someone about why it was not okay to disagree with them about homosexuality. I tried to have a reasonable discussion. They melted down into a fit of name-calling and emotional ad hominem arguments before we were even halfway through.

        • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

          So one conversation with one person means that we are all going to react the same way? You are free to call your despising gay people “disagreement” all you want. But what you have to understand is that being gay is innate to us. It is like me saying “I don’t agree with your being a woman” to us. It’s like saying “I don’t agree with your being a different race” to us. That is why it stirs such responses. How would you react if I said “I don’t agree with you being able to have a religion”?

          • Mellow Melon

            Who are you to presume that I despise gay people? That is extremely judgmental and stereotypical.

            The problem is, sexuality is not race, Michael. I don’t know that you’re gay until you tell me. And even then, I can’t really be 100% sure unless I see you jumping a dude XD A black person can’t hide their skin color. It’s always right there for me to see. There’s no way they can hide or change it. It’s not that way with sexuality. I know that it does feel innate, Michael, but the reason for that is because homosexuality often starts very young, with a dysfunctional family in which there is an absent or abusive father and a controlling or weak mother. Numerous studies have been done to back this thesis. Also, the current consensus in the scientific community is that there is no gay gene and that there are a host of environmental and psychological factors that influence sexuality. You may not be able to change the fact that you’re a boy, but you can always change whether or not you like boys – just ask any young teenager struggling to fit in.

            And no, one conversation doesn’t prove that you’ll all react the same way. But look at the way you’re reacting now! Without even knowing who I am, you get all over me for “despising” and “persecuting” gays. You don’t want me to stereotype you, but yet you’re doing the same thing to me. You want acceptance of your beliefs. Then why can’t you accept, or tolerate, mine?

            That conversation is not the only evidence I have to create the thesis that *most* gays react this way. I had another discussion with a young girl, who was not gay but supported gay rights, and I asked her, why can’t I just disagree with homosexuality? Why is that wrong? She called me a bunch of different names, insisting that I was an idiot and a bigot, until she finally realized that I had a valid point and apologized to me.

            You want people to listen and understand you? The surest way to get them NOT to do that is to call mere disagreement with your beliefs “bigotry” and “hatred.” No one wants to listen to angry diatribe, whether that diatribe is pro or anti gay.

  • http://113tidbits.com/ tony greene

    Kristen seems to be getting her brain spun around to the “right” side.

  • WVS

    I’m tired of seeing Christians being accused of hate and not defending themselves. No Christian who’s serious about what his or her Bible says hates anybody. Yeah, sure, the Westboro loons seem to be full of hate. I’m sure there are some other embarrassments like them. But intellectually honest Christians don’t hate gay people, no more than they hate teenagers who sleep around outside marriage, hate folks who eat way too much at their church dinners, hate college guys whose heads turn when a girl in little shorts runs by, hate people who occasionally tell a little lie, or hate people who picket military funerals. As I understand it, Christians don’t hate any of those people–they just think all those actions are wrong. There’s a big difference.

    Yeah, there’s that weird verse where Christ says something about his followers having to hate their own fathers and mothers. I don’t know precisely what that meant, but I do know very clearly what “Love your neighbor” means. Jesus demonstrated it meant “love your Samaritan neighbor” for Jews, and it means “love your gay neighbor” for us. God is love, and while that doesn’t translate to “whatever you want to do is okay,” it does mean there’s no room for us to hate anyone. We’ve just fallen into a society where any form of disagreement or criticism is called “hate.”