Big news out of Texas this afternoon where Gov. Greg Abbott called for a Convention of States to debate 9 new amendments to the U.S. Constitution designed to “rein in the federal government and restore the balance of power between the States and the United States“:

Some excerpts of what Gov. Abbott had to say about his plan at a luncheon for the Texas Public Policy Foundation:

And here are his 9 proposed amendments:

Marco Rubio called for a Convention of States as well in an op-ed for USA Today on January 6:

An excerpt:

America was built on the revolutionary idea that our rights come from God, not from government. To protect those rights, our founders created a government of the people, by the people and for the people. But today, that government has been hijacked by politicians and bureaucrats who disregard the will of the people, rack up trillions in debt and expand the federal bureaucracy into more and more aspects of our lives. As president, I will promote a convention of states to amend the Constitution and restore limited government.

As good as this sounds, however, it’s far from a sure thing. 34 states would have to approve before a Convention of States could be convened.

 

  • Sketti

    Sounds good to me, lets do this ASAP!

  • TooFarGone1 ✓NeverTrump

    Abbott is proposing actual “common sense” legislation, so it won’t get anywhere 🙁

    • Mecha75

      how many republican state legislatures are there now? It could happen.

      • Archer305

        They are politicians trying to save their own offices. They wouldn’t be bold enough, unfortunately…

        • DeplorableMessMan ✔ JesseMessy

          Which THEYs wouldn’t be bold enough? Name the names your talking about…Don’t hyperbolize about everyone with the “icky -R” after his/her name. HEY Abbott’s got the “icky-R” after his name too…And oddly enough in his tweets, nowhere does it say the “exec-power-abusing”-Prez is at fault for anything. Hmm, is Abbott trying to “out-Earnest” Josh Earnest (who said that Congress is a lousy Commander-in-Chief)?

          • Archer305

            Look, I am a conservative. However, I don’t think our politicians have the balls to actually defend what they swear they are going to do. There are very few that actually seem to stand up what we want anymore… They always fold under the pressure of re-election or popularity or media scrutiny or whatever. Examples: Boehner, Ryan, McConnel, et. al. The leaders fold and the rest of the sheep follow suit.

          • DeplorableMessMan ✔ JesseMessy
          • Archer305

            LOL… touche… I just hate how much we sacrifice everything we stand for while waiting for our supposed leaders to do something. Hillary and Bernie are the most awful ideas… pretty much ever… I just would like to see resolve…

          • Mohawk77

            Convention of the STATES. Congress will have nothing to do with it.

          • Archer305

            I wish… I will believe it when I see it… It is exhausting trying to believe the system still works…

          • Mohawk77

            Keep the faith brother. I know it’s disheartening but we have a duty. Yeah, I’m tired too. Keep your eye on the prize and remove these bastards and I’d say prosecute most of them at some point. Removal to a 6 figure pension WILL NOT WORK.Many of these clowns are organized crime figures as defined by their actions. (Hi Pelosi, et al)

          • Ryan Schneider.

            It could have gotten done years ago if the paranoiacs in John Birch hadn’t scared the idea out of us for so long. I even get their fears, but with Congress capitulating even when we have a majority, when conservative and libertarian values are shat upon and pushed back at every turn, with the threat of Clinton or Sanders looming to strangle us all with red tape, the time has come to TAKE the risk! If we hit them hard and suddenly with it, we can get at least some of these ideas passed and end the convention before the loons even know what hit them, let alone propose any amendments of their own.

          • Mohawk77

            I know but I answer those who fear a Constitutional Convention (which this IS NOT) with be hijacked and tell them there has been an ongoing Constitutional Convention going on for the last 50 years without States input. It’s time to end that now with Convention of the States. Term limits biggest issue for me and the 17th Amendment. No more professional politicians.

          • Ryan Schneider.

            I also have an idea that would eliminate professional lobbying by taking a few pages from the jury system.
            Here is a rough outline:
            After turning 18, a non convicted citizen would be eligible for Lobby Duty. This would be handled by the state, rather then counties. A randomly selected individual would first go to a county office for pre screening by state agents. Many of the same exemptions for jurors could be applied here to get out of it, such as pregnancy, but if they determine you are a probable, then you would be sent, fully paid, to the state capital, for hours or days, however long it takes. Once there, more precise vetting is determined to see if you can handle the hectic work in DC for several months. Deliberately sabotaging yourself just because you don’t want to go would be a misdemeanor offense subject to a steep fine. Once determined to be able to do the work, you would have a choice of which state issue to lobby for. If you cannot find an issue you believe in, or don’t at least mind, then you have to prove it by bringing in witnesses and records to a Judge. Failing to do so can result in a steep fine.
            Once fully trained for a month, you then go to DC for a transitional period where you will work with the person you are replacing for several weeks to fine tune your training and get the ropes. Afterward, that person can return to their old job, as you will have the right to do. Your boss can hire a temp, but cannot legally fire you. Meanwhile, your term will be limited to to 4-6 months or until your goal is met. Fully paid plus weekend visits home every other week, holidays and emergencies.
            What do you think?

          • tricknologist

            At the State/local level, the GOP is pretty good, it’s usually after they go to DC that they turn rotten. I can see getting enough State legislatures to sign on to this.

          • Archer305

            It would be nice. However, the system is rigged to do a lot without accomplishing anything, though. It is sad, really…

          • DeplorableMessMan ✔ JesseMessy

            ..I’ll ask you again: Who’s THEY?

          • tricknologist

            GOP elected officials, it should have been obvious.

          • DeplorableMessMan ✔ JesseMessy

            …What are THEY’s names (unless you’re saying Ted Cruz must be a wuss since he’s a Repub that got ELECTED)? Stop talking about Repubs as if you were a Democrat.

  • The Dragon

    Mark Levin has been calling for a Convention of the States for a long time. And it’s about dang time it happened, but of course it won’t.

    • Archer305

      Of course not. That would require cajones…

  • Booj

    I mean those aren’t exactly proposed amendments, more like talking points going into a convention, but i admire the starting point, even if i don’t agree with all of them.

    • mintap

      Which one’s would someone disagree with?

  • Paladin

    Only 6 more states to go, sadly that means a democrat state or two will have to jump in.

  • Mecha75

    Its a start. I hope it happens and I hope they merge his amendments with some of Mark Levin’s Liberty Amendments.

  • Penny✓ItsSoFluffy! #GoBolts!

    Let’s get this party started!

  • Denise429

    Abbott for president

  • david4041

    #10. Term limits on Senate and House.

    • Jeff Henderson ✓Bona Fide

      Illinois uses term limits. One term as governor and then one term in jail.

    • http://www.almarquardt.com/ almarquardt

      Even better: Have all US Reps and Senate be paid by their representative state, and not the Federal Government. That includes housing, travel and security. I’m tired of picking up the tab for 432 other politicians who live 20 times better than I do.

      • lCOYAR

        At this point, I just want to become a Representative, so I can live in luxury while screwing the people over.

      • /sarcnado ☠

        Brilliant! This should be the 10th amendment in Abbot’s proposal.

      • Maryland_Malcontent

        Makes sense to me.

        That would also leave the states open to doing something else that needs doing: keeping the Representatives in their districts, instead of sending them to DC (ie: Congress-via-internet), laying the groundwork for the desperately-needed increase in Representatives.

      • Andrew Curlutu

        You have a point.

    • disqus_eric

      I’m assuming term limited based on death is not what you have in mind… 😉

  • drw

    No, no, no. Under no conceivable scenario would a Constitutional convention be a good idea. Adopting amendments, okay, as long as the people have their say but, an actual convention opens the possibility of a complete re-write of the entire Constitution. I’m quite certain that since I wouldn’t have any authority to personally vet and chose the delegates or limit their actions that it would only end in further limitations on what few liberties I have left. This is a bad idea period.

    • ThaBigPerm

      This isn’t a “Constitutional Convention” as the drones in the media are characterizing it … which would be a “shudder” prospect since it would be a free-for-all. This is an Article V Convention of the States – meaning, they can propose up to 3 amendments to the states for ratification.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_to_propose_amendments_to_the_United_States_Constitution

    • AZWarrior

      No a Constitutional Convention, but an Article Five Convention of The States. BIG difference.

    • mblack

      Please take some time to research your subject before you post so you can at least know what you are talking about. No one is calling for a constitutional convention. No one is talking about rewriting the entire constitution.

      • drw

        Are ya sure? Cause if everybody stopped rushing thru stories between takin a piss and going back out to work on the car, you’d soon find yourself out of people to scold.

        • thale_taxurfeet ♂ Vilified

          Scolding others has become a national past time.

  • ArmchairMike

    Everyone that doesn’t reside in Texas owes the people of Texas a huge thank you for electing Governor Abbott.

  • Danny Wheeler

    Boom! Let’s get it done!

  • Dan Abbett

    “34 states would have to approve before a Convention of States could be convened.” Given that 36 states are already suing the federal government, I think that could be arranged.

  • Sanchez

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
    that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
    that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

    That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving
    their just powers from the consent of the governed,

    That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,
    laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

    This government We the People Delegated certain enumerated powers to, has become destructive to said ends.

    We gave this government its power, and we have the option to alter or to abolish it. It is a shame they didn’t tell us how except by revolution.

    • mblack

      They did tell us how. An Article V Convention of the States.

    • http://granitegrok.com/author/mike Mike Rogers

      Herman Cain: “We’ve got a lot of alterin’ and abolishin’ to do!”

      • Sanchez

        He is a good man! I liked him.

  • http://macsen573.wix.com/overdrive Macsen Overdrive

    Abbott for President 2020

    • Sanchez

      Attorney General for President Cruz.

  • Dan Abbett

    Senators and Representatives elected to Congress should first be accountable to the governors and legislatures of their respective states. This gives the people of the states far more leverage and control over those they send to Washington to “represent them.”

    • http://granitegrok.com/author/mike Mike Rogers

      Repeal the 17th and your wish will be granted

  • SupplyGuy

    I like it.
    But I would take one exception to what Rubio said that politicians are disregarding the will of the people. Trust me, when 51% of the electorate reelects a man like Obama, it shows that they want a government to control their lives.

    • Sanchez

      The conservatives have been electing State politicians and that leads to the majorities we have now in both houses.

      It starts locally.

      • oldfiredog

        You’re right,we have a large majority of Governors and states legislatures now. We can start doing something by enlarging those majorities and start electing the right people at the Federal level.

        • Sanchez

          Like here in Maryland we elected a GOP Governor and he is VERY WELL liked even in the minority areas .
          When the people like him they may look at Republicans in other state races.

          It starts at the bottom.

    • brotherStefan

      I’m not sure those 51% exercised much cerebral energy in making that choice.

      • thale_taxurfeet ♂ Vilified

        Little to none…

        One thing to keep in mind is in both the 2008 and 2012 election, the winning percentage of eligible voters was a little more than, if memory serves, 34-36%.

        A shade under 1/3 of eligible voters could not get off their ass to vote.

  • Evil Otto
  • Worc1

    I wish there were only “5 unelected, unaccountable people should that rewrite the laws of the land without the people having a check & balance on it.” How about all the executive brach agencies adding new rules and regulations to the laws that Congress passed many years later. Such as the IRS and the EPA to name just 2. The EPA is still adding to the Clean Air Act and the Clean Water Act decades after they became laws.

    The judiciary is out of control but so is the administration state. They are a 4th branch of government without any accountability at all.

  • wintermute

    Missing: Term limits and Senators appointed by state legislatures.

    • Maryland_Malcontent

      Also missing is a repeal of the 16th Amendment.

      And, following that, an Amendment that states that the original text of the Constitution (and that amendment) cannot be altered by any amendment.

  • Giuseppe Franco

    It’s a bold move by Rubio and it would really benefit the country, so of course it has no chance of actually happening.

  • lCOYAR

    He forgot a tenth:

    Mandatory term limits for ALL elected officials. Not just for Presidents.

    • Crakalakin

      From dog catcher to president, everywhere in the U.S.

  • David Majors

    Let’s see if I get this right. Everyone and his dog from the Speaker of theHouse to the Senate Majority Leader to the President of the United States to the Chief Justice of the United States to at least HALF of the Supreme Court to at least half of ALL judges either have zero understanding of the Constitution or simply ignore it and the solution is to call a convention of the states to add nine more amendments for them to ignore? Count me out unless you can convince me we have men of the caliber of Hancock, Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, etc .around to guide it.

  • Maryland_Malcontent

    Abbott Amendment V is superfluous as Abbott Amendment IX already grants that power.

    AA VI is downright dangerous as it grants legitimacy to already-illegal “legislating from the bench”.

    Abbott should propose an amendment that eliminates the part of the Constitution that allows Congress to grant power to the SCOTUS…or make “judicial review” 100% illegal (I know we already know that it is but it seems it has to be codified…).

  • AZWarrior

    Ten: No elected official may leave their home state during the duration of their holding of any elected Federal Office. All work will be done will be done through and by electronic means such as Internet Email, Skype or other electronic co-location technology. Any meetings or communication with special interest lobbiests must be recorded and released to the press within 12 hours for public dissemination.

    • Maryland_Malcontent

      Ban lobbyists.

      I could condone still sending the Senators to DC but the Representatives, besides needing to be increased (Constitution allows up to ~11,000), definitely need to stay in their districts.

      Right now, I technically have no Representative.

  • globalcrap

    Term limits for these politicians in Washed-Up dc

  • Maryland_Malcontent

    It seems to me that it would be easier to take the Confederate Constitution, cut out the bits about slavery, and stick it into the National Archives in lieu of the Constitution 😉

  • ProfShadow

    Missed one: Term limits.

  • ljam

    We’re missing TERM LIMITS…biggest problem in DC is “career politicians”. 12 years and you’re OUT!!

    • KHSoldier(Ret)&Writer

      Do I hear 8?

      • LimpingHenry

        I prefer 12. It give Senators two terms rather than one and one-half.

        • KHSoldier(Ret)&Writer

          I understand. Of course, I would prefer the Senators to still be appointed by the states…

          • LimpingHenry

            Absolutely agree. Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment.

  • Luv2GoFly

    He forgot another amendment: term limits for members of Congress. Mark Levin – a genius and a Constitutional scholar – has already come up with some genius amendments in his book “The Liberty Amendments”. Although some of the ones Abbott has come up with are pretty darn good as well.

  • Librophile417

    Provided the wording of the ammendments don’t create weird loopholes or other such things, I’m all for every one of them.

  • Andrew

    Does VI refer purely to state ballot initiatives, or would a law passed by Congress or a state legislature also count? Because if it’s the latter, I’m not sure we would necessarily like the results. FDR would have turned us into a people’s republic if this had been in the constitution under his regime.

    • LimpingHenry

      It needs clarification. I certainly don’t know which laws it refers to. As worded, it seems that it might apply to laws passed by a town council.

  • Jerome Goolsby

    Number 7 already exists in the Constitution.

    • LimpingHenry

      Correct. However it is constantly violated.

      • Jerome Goolsby

        True

  • jjcassidy

    I’m glad that it addressed the courts.Still I think there should be something about slapping them with smelly fish if they “balance” expressly protected-rights with rights they just pulled out of their backsides.

  • Lyle Petersen

    Points V and VI aren’t about checks and balances at all. They’re just stripping the Supreme Court of its ability to find laws unconstitutional. I’m all for reigning in the Federal government, but letting Congress run roughshod over the courts won’t achieve that.

    • LimpingHenry

      V does not concern Congress, but the States. VI would include any democratically enacted law wherever passed and is, therefore, too vague in its present form.

    • Ichneumon Jones

      I understood the “democratically enacted law” part to refer not to laws passed by Congress, but to laws added/changed by ballot initiative and such (directly by the people).

      Still, this could be a sticky one. What if 51% of the voters approved a ballot initiative to reinstitute slavery, to use an extreme (albeit highly unlikely) example? Or (more likely) what if 51% of blue-staters vote to disarm everyone in their state? Even “democratically enacted laws” can trample fundamental rights, and there always needs to be some method to block the majority from abusing the other 49%.

  • LimpingHenry

    Missing the repeal of the Sixteenth and Seventeenth Amendments.

  • http://granitegrok.com/author/mike Mike Rogers

    Shorter. Propose a treaty or compact between the states to enforce tha Constitution as written and to jointly ignore/override any/all unconstitutional acts or regulations.
    Even shorter: Enforce the Tenth.

  • Lepantzeus

    BAD IDEA! A runaway Constitutional Convention could abolish habeas corpus, abolish private property, make corporations illegal, and all sorts of other foolish ideas. Once you have this thing going, you don’t know what it will produce.

    • Karl H

      the majority states can agree to limits on what topics are open for discussion withholding their support until such agreements can be reached.

      besides there have been over 400 such applications and none has ever happened.

    • Dan13

      Will abolishment of those things get the necessary votes? Only if more a more AMERICA hating non-Americans are allowed into the country.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    Finally. It’s on.

    This is way more important than POTUS selection. Way more.

  • Karl H

    I am Down with all except 5 and 6

    • Dan Shoop

      5 & 6 are great! Leave them in.

      • RepublicanDon

        I like V, but VI should be:
        If 3/4 of the State Legislatures vote to overturn a Supreme Court decision, the decision shall be reversed and all justices who voted in the majority will be immediately removed from the Supreme Court and replaced in the usual manner. Justices so removed are prohibited from ever again serving as a Federal Judge.

  • Victoria Richardson

    About flipping time. I am sick of the Federal Government stomping on States Rights and the 10th Amendment

  • wharfrat

    The Government is out of control because of the law breaker Obama,when Congress wakes up they need to remove Executive Orders from the President,now and in the future,Obama is using them to break all of the laws he doesn’t like,every decision made by any President in the future needs to be approved by Congress and all money for vacations also,thanks to the worthless Obama we are suffering and it needs to stop.

  • captblye

    Gov. Abbott is a true patriot. His proposals do make absolute sense and should be enacted.

  • DoNotDumbHere

    Wow, I just read tweets by the low-fo crowd and I think I lost at least 1,000 IQ points. Derrrrrrp.

  • brotherStefan

    I can think of two things that have been instrumental in the sustained weakening of our Democratic Republic…

    One is the 17th Amendment — think about it; instead of having Senators chosen by the deliberating bodies of individual states, we now choose them by a “popularity contest” just like we choose House members. What’s the point in having a bi-cameral legislature if both houses are filled the same way via popular election?

    Number two is Civil Service Retirement — I cannot think of any better way for a government bureaucracy to buy and sustain a lifetime allegiance to itself.

    • thale_taxurfeet ♂ Vilified

      And part of Number 2 should, IMO, be 2A: Public Unions.

  • maggieinWY

    The other states better hop on board this thing before the freaks in DC ruin our chances of keeping the Republican governors we have now.

  • Prospector

    Right on, right on, right on!

  • Maryland_Malcontent

    Why did Governor Abbott go to Cuba?

    That is very concerning.

  • mjsteele

    We need to watch that the Libs don’t slip a bunch of ringers in the mix. We don’t need to lose the 2nd because were not paying enough attention.