Initial reports say that the Supreme Court has sided with Hobby Lobby and Conestoga Wood Specialties in their religious freedom case against the Obama administration.

The Supreme Court narrowed their decision, which was 5-4, around corporations that are “closely held.”

Editor’s note: This post has been updated with additional tweets.

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‘Fu*k you:’ Left-wingers want to ‘burn down’ Hobby Lobby after SCOTUS win

  • jim

    Less government is better government and religious freedom trumps the government. This is a good day.

    • Pratz

      this is anarchy!!

      • Joey

        Pratz, I really hope you don’t vote in any elections in this country because it’s clueless people like you that are running this once wonderful country into the ground by electing people with the same twisted uneducated principles as yourself to office! Please don’t vote! I’m really begging you!

    • R. Clements

      Well, maybe. It’s a good thing that these business people can’t be forced to pay (directly) for something they are opposed to on religious grounds. But if the government ends up paying for the same thing, Hobby Lobby and Conestoga , as corporations, and their owners as individuals — and you and I — are still forced to pay for it through our tax dollars. A win, yes, but little reduction in government scope and power.

      • Epl N D. Vu

        would you rather they spend your tax dollars supporting contraceptives in packaging their healthcare or would you rather see your tax monies being use by your government to funds wars which costs the lives of millions including of your own people, while only the rich people coming out with the only gains from it ?

        • David Calvani

          False dichotomy. The issue of war policies wasn’t under discussion.
          Besides it’s hardly a matter of government either paying for contraception or engaging in wars. The government has the option of doing neither.
          You gain points in the red herring department, Epl N D. Vu. In the intellectual respectability department, not so much.

        • R. Clements

          Why on earth would that be an either/or? One has nothing to do with the other. I’d rather have some of my tax dollars go to having POOR people get a decent level of health care when they are sick or disabled. I’d rather have a portion of my tax dollars go to defending our country against tlegitimate threats. It would be nice if some of my dollars didn’t have to become “tax” dollars at all.

          • v.orga

            I would rather the poor GET JOBS

        • Ryan Johnson

          I would rather see neither, thank you. And as David said we were not discussing war.

        • Conservative

          Cost the lives of millions? Try 4k in 13 years years retard ! National defense IS in the Constitution. Health Care is not.

      • David Calvani

        You are correct that there wasn’t any reduction in Uncle Sam’s scope. But there was a reduction in the power the Obama administration was asserting the government had.

        • R. Clements

          A win is a win, and it’s good, agreed. But it’s a pebble against Goliath’s shin,

          • jim

            That’s true, which is why we must keep fighting. We must keep calling our elected officials to let them know how we feel about a given issue. We can’t stop being politically active and above all we must continue to encourage the next generation. We must teach them to recognize the benefits of small limited government. We must teach them to fight against the “authority figures” in their lives that spread false information about socialism and liberalism.

            This is a fight that we will be fighting our entire lives. As my parents used to say: “We didn’t get here overnight and we won’t be getting back any quicker.”

    • OmaJohn

      Narrow victory with caveats. The insanity that is our Federal Government is still trampling freedom, with nary a word from SCOTUS. Even the SCOTUS account is saying, “don’t over read,” to make sure we don’t get any delusions that the Federal Government comes second to our religious beliefs.

      What they’re telling us is “you can have this crumb, we’re taking the loaf.”

    • rssllue

      Apparently that pen has run out of ink and that cellphone has dead batteries. We can hope, right?

      • jim

        Sadly according to reports Obama has already made it known that he will be looking for ways around today’s decision.

        • rssllue

          So apparently his position has gone from “new tone” to “new toner.” Not good for the country for sure. Let’s hope he will not recharge the phone at least because of his green proclivities.

    • SuperKamiGuru

      Can’t help but feel like contraceptives aren’t really the issue here. More likely it’s the said companies who don’t want to pay for women to murder their own offspring. But someone decided to shift the emphasis to contraceptives bc they seem more benign and more intrusive to ban them.

    • Luanne Taylor

      this feels like more government, except now the government is really a corporation you are dependent upon…not good. Too close to home.

  • cmerlo1

    I have no problem with birth control, but it shouldn’t be imposed on companies or people who do. A great day for America for sure!

    • January 2017

      Exactly. They want their abortions and their contraceptives….pay for it themselves. They claim it’s their bodies and they can do with it what they want….fine then pay for it themselves.

    • Pratz

      birth control is a health care right!

      • Corey Hamilton

        You have a right to your life, your liberty, and your property. That means the gov cant take my property (hard earned money) and give it to you to treat your poor moral standards.

      • Debbie

        Pratz, surely you mean as long as the individual pays for it, right? After all, it’s expensive. About the same as getting your nails or hair done?

        • Angel

          No, it’s not that expensive, but it’s something that is covered by health insurance. Something that employers pay for. Do you pay cash for all of your prescriptions? With no help from insurance? Didn’t think so.

          • R. Clements

            My prescriptions are for prevention and treatment of illnesses and injuries. Pregnancy, in the vast majority of cases, is neither. It’s a healthy, natural [art of living. Id you don’t want it to happen to you, be careful, or pay for protection

      • Dan Boek

        Yes and if a child can live inside and/or outside the womb it too big! It has a right to control it’s own birth also. So not killing it, if it can live on it’s own, is a vote for birth control, but the mother doesn’t have all -all -all ! the control. Some control should be given to the living child. Pokeing at it in the womb, unseen, till it dies, and chopping it up to fit out of the body easily, doesn’t make it less a child, or less alive before someone else took control over it. What irks me is absolutely no compromise so because of no compromise. Some forms of “birth control” is certainly baby killing.

      • $26626485

        Really… Why… Explain and support….
        Are facials a healthcare right? Pedicures and manicures… Facelifts…? Are paid vacations… And I mean plane ticket and hotel room paid… A right…both contribute to over all well being and happiness….I’d be happier with a newer car… It’s my right… I demand you pay for it! I want a pool for my house…you pay for that too….

    • Informed&Concerned

      Hobby Lobby actually pays for insurance coverage for 16 contraceptives.

      The merits of case was “Deeply held Religious Objections” by private owners to 4 specific abortifacients (termination of potentially post-fertilized egg)

      To read the Left’s version, you would think the Hahn & Green families are forcing employees to convert to their religion – and become abstinent. lol

      • OmaJohn

        The left being completely disconnected from reality is shocking to me.

        I’m trying to decide how to handle the news that they’re a bunch of weak-minded, weak-willed fools who need the government to take care of them because they can’t be responsible for their own decisions.

        I didn’t know people could deflect like that. “Your baby shouldn’t be murdered.” “Why do you want to control everything about my vagina?! You’re talking about my vagina! It’s mine, and it’s a vagina!”

        I’m just stunned they’ve changed from… being… something not ridiculous and deplorable.

        Wait… Have they ever been not ridiculous and deplorable?

        • Sugapiehny

          I agree… and further… “Do what every you want with your Vjj… but the moment you conceive… the fact is .. you are now carrying in your womb a baby… a little growing baby.. with a soul and a spirit.. at that point in time, your responsibility to protect that life not your right to kill/murder/destroy this new, real, living, whole other person….. human being alive in you!” Just sayin’!

      • Tom Winegar

        Ah yes, the shrill, whiny left. Has Killary whined in yet?

  • End abortion,sodomy&divorce!

    THANK YOU LORD JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!!!

    • rssllue

      AMEN TO THAT!!! HALLELUJAH!!!!!!

  • Blake Waymire

    Yay! Now to wait for the (exceedingly entertaining, I’ll bet) Sandra Fluke meltdown.

    • World B. Free

      Can’t wait to see her head explode. Pass the popcorn! :-)

      • JL Bird

        Didn’t have to wait long…

    • Reasonable Logic

      This could eventually lead to an absolute worse case scenario for her…having to pay for her own birth control.

  • Sarah H.

    Under this decision, taxpayers are on the hook for the cost of the contraception. This is not a true victory.

    • Les Luethmers

      Sarah be responsible for yourself.

      • RidgebackKing

        Pay attention Les, what Sarah is saying is true. The ruling opens up the door for the government to provide it now. Who funds the government? You do. So now instead of the company providing it, you get to provide it. Feel better about the ruling now? :)

        • Fire and Adjust!

          True, but at the same time, Congress controls the purse strings, so if they remain diligent (not likely) they should be able to control what money goes where and for what purpose……..but again, that means Congress must be diligent, and I think they’ve proven that is not possible.

          • francesca9

            why don’t people pay for their own birth control and abortions, i see no reason for others to do this. that is a matter of choice not to have or dispose of a child.

          • Fire and Adjust!

            Because they are lazy, entitled, thoughtless, self centered idiots…………… not much more need be said

          • Chuck Harding

            You are being too kind in your choice of words B-)

          • Fire and Adjust!

            Liberals are already having a bad enough day as it is. Although I would love to dance on their tears, I’ll settle for referring to them by those adjectives which get just enough accuracy across………….

          • Fire and Adjust!

            Because they are lazy, entitled, thoughtless, self centered idiots…………… not much more need be said

          • Matt

            Why don’t people actually take some personal responsibility for themselves period? Unfortunately it’s just not gonna happen.

          • Pratz

            Healthcare is everyones right. I think your all wacked to think birthcontrol is seperate from healthcare. Do you realize women give up alot physically to carry a baby, sometimes their lives.

          • Proud2bfromtheUSA

            Health care is not a right the pursuit of healthcare is a right just as the pursuit of happiness is a right. We have a right to religious freedom and free speech. We have a right to bear arms. We have the responsibility to be healthy and make healthy choices. We have a right to privacy and we have a right to life and liberty. Healthcare is not a right it is a privilege which means we have to pay for it the same way we have to pay for our homes, cars, our food and our recreational activities. It is sad that some women cant keep their legs closed and are therefore subject to an unplanned pregnancy. But then that is her right and his right to be as immoral as they wish to be. Immorality has consequences.

          • Bradley

            because the Democrats are trying to buy their votes with freebe’s

          • Doc

            and men should pay for their own viagra-right???

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Viagra doesn’t kill unborn babies.
            Technically, Viagra is for an actual physical disorder-it’s corrective medicine.
            Abortion is elective, and ends the life of another human being.
            Read up:

          • Proud2bfromtheUSA

            I agree with that I should not be paying for some one to have a woody. Just as I should not be paying for your abortions.

        • Jill

          The government already does, Ridgeback, via health departments. The bone of contention was just a few abortifacients. I do, in fact, feel great about the ruling. No man should be forced to violate their conscience and subsidize what their religion tells them is repugnant.

          • RidgebackKing

            And if they said “My religion does not believe in any medical care and everything should be handled naturally?” Why is birth control the only piece at question here then?

          • Jill

            If you could prove that your religion historically and liturgically had that belief and your beliefs did not violate the natural rights of man, yes, you could say that. You would be free, especially if you owned a small business, to not provide employee health benefits. These are benefits-not absolute rights, after all.

          • Pratz

            Their religion… hehehe These are man who don’t abstain but expect women to carry the burden. This is totally against human rights. But when its a womens right, our society still shows women are lesser. This is a sad day.

          • Sickofit

            Pratz! You are not a victim unless you decide to make yourself one! There is one sure way to keep from getting pregnant. Next is a condom. These are personal choices you must be responsible for, not choices that any taxpayer or government should be involved in!! I’m not paying for your abortion either, so please be responsible for your own self.

          • Proud2bfromtheUSA

            So you know for a fact that these men do not practice abstinence? You know for a fact that they do not hold the beliefs they have stated that they hold. How pray tell do you know this? Please give us your evidence for this statement.

          • Jill

            They subsidize a plan that pays for 16 out of 20 FDA approved birth control drugs. Women still have the ‘right’ to use whatever drug best suits their needs-they do not have the right to force others to pay for anything and everything they desire. Your belief that women cannot think for themselves and take care of themselves without a patriarchal proxy is more repugnant than this decision.

          • nc ✓s & balances

            That’s how the justices ruled it. It only applies to the BC mandate.

          • journogal

            Because the case was about the BC mandate within Obamacare, so thus the ruling only applies to that and nothing else.

          • Pratz

            Great point!!

          • frgough

            It would be the same result. Absolutely no effect whatsoever to anyone who actually paid their own way.

          • January 2017

            Perhaps Obama should have stayed out of our Health Care completely. We go back to buying our own insurance. It would be called paying your own way like we did before.

          • David Ruiz

            And if a frog had wings it would not bump its butt when it hopped. Birth control is not in question, the abortion/morning after pill is. Hobby Lobby is cool with providing a policy that allows you the pill, be responsible and use your pill. If you slip up then reach in your own pocket, get the 10 to 40 bucks out needed to buy the pill and go buy it. You had the sex without protection so you and your partner should handle it. Unprotected sex is not a must, it is entirely optional.

          • R. Clements

            Pregnancy is not an illness or impairment. It is (or should be) a choice. If you don’t want to get pregnant a) be careful b) pay for something that will prevent it. “Health care” is treatment or prevention of illness or injury.

          • Proud2bfromtheUSA

            Stop calling abortion and abortifacients birth control. and I agree with you if the employer doesn’t want to pay for healthcare then he should not be forced to and if I don’t believe in accessing the medical industry then I should not be forced to pay for your access either.

        • carolyn

          No its not up to anyone else, but the 2 who are in between the sheets or just keep ur pants up

        • David

          The Title X Family Planning Program, officially known as Public Law 91-572 or “Population Research and Voluntary Family Planning Programs” was enacted under President Richard Nixonin 1970 as part of the Public Health Service Act. Title X is the only existing federal grant program that is completely devoted to providing comprehensive family planning and other related preventive health services to individuals.
          It’s been around since 1970, how has the SCOTUS ruling changed this?

      • jayhawk_dreamer

        Some of you are freaking clueless. Contraception does more for some women than prevent pregnancy….it helps against painful endimitriosis and other maladies that only women get. And birth control can be very expensive, as not all women can take the same pill. And yet, viagra is covered, no questions asked. Hypocrisy, anyone?

    • sickandtired

      It is a HUGE victory for our religious freedom. It was already going to cost the taxpayers. who do you think is paying for everyone’s brith control and abortions with Obamacare? That would be the taxpayers….it’s certainly not the ones NOT working….they are getting their insurance off of the back of working families………ie. taxpayers…….

    • Jill

      People cannot pay for their morning after pills or contract their labor to a company who is more amenable?

      • TomJB

        Don’t be getting all common-sense-y!

        /s

      • Warren A. Dobler

        Common sense? And Personal Responsibility? Shame on you!

      • Warren A. Dobler

        Common sense? And Personal Responsibility? Shame on you!

      • nearoffutt

        Because I got remarried, I moved to be with my new wife. Where she lives, a small village, job choices are almost nonexistent. My teacher certification is not recognized as valid unless I pay $3500 to retake classes. I do not have that extra cash handy. It took almost twenty years to pay off my first set of student loans. Not everybody can choose their employer.

        • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          Dig ditches. Problem solved.

        • sec818

          you CHOSE to move there where job choices are “almost nonexistent”. so yes, you CHOSE your employer, or lack of.

        • frgough

          Sounds like you and your wife need to have a conversation about what it means to be married and joint sacrifice. In other words, move somewhere that’s a win for both of you.

        • journogal

          But you did make the choices…you chose to move there, instead of both of you choosing to start over new by living somewhere else.

        • January 2017

          No but you can choose where you live. You made your choice to move there. You have a couple of choices here,,,,quit your whining and live with it or take control of your own life and do something about it.

        • BigSkyDan

          I’m confused as to what this has to do with hobby lobby… Does your “small village” have a hobby lobby?
          Also sidebar question… would you be considered village people? Seriously… who lives in villages? Is that village adjacent to a hamlet?

        • Donald-Now2x/Sarc-w/0calories

          BOO HOO HOO! I made a stupid decision on my own. Now feel sorry for me or I’m going to whine some more. 20 YEARS to pay off your student loans? Why didn’t you get a better paying job the first time? Yeah I know, teacher pay sucks. Again, choices. You chose to be a teacher. If you weren’t smart enough to know going in the pay sucks, then you don’t get to whine about it now. So STFU mmkay?

          • Doc

            You really represent “religious rights” well-glad you aren’t a teacher-Constipated or are you just an asshole all the time?

          • Donald-Now2x/Sarc-w/0calories

            First off, thank you, I try to represent “religious rights” well and proudly when they let me. Usually though, they do pretty well on their own.
            Secondly, I never said if I was a teacher or not, just that I didn’t whine about taking 20 years to pay off my student loan.
            Thirdly, I wonder how in the hell you graded anything beyond first grade math because your reading skills are well below your ability to write a grammatically correct sentence with proper punctuation. Otherwise you would have correctly read my post. I hope to God (religion again) you don’t teach English as a second language let alone a first.
            Fourth, not that it’s any of your business, but no, a high fiber diet and daily probiotics keep my bowels moving regularly, thank you.
            Lastly, I’m a part time asshole. I took your old position when you moved away. They said you did it so poorly, and they saw I could do it in half the time for the same amount of money with better benefits.
            MMMKAY???

          • Doc

            I actually speak 6 languages-and you are an idiot in all 6-Before you go on and on with your points-check your facts-I never claimed to be a teacher-I do find it offensive to hear you criticize someone that chose that profession- As a doctor I’m sorry to hear your personality disorder is not a result of poor bowel habits-People like you make me question my oath-

          • Donald-Now2x/Sarc-w/0calories

            Um excuse me, but YOU stated in the THIRD sentence of the first post I replied to “My teacher certification is not recognized as valid unless I pay $3500 to retake classes.” YOUR WORDS NOT MINE, ASSHAT. That sounds like a teacher to ME. I was not criticizing teachers, GO BACK AND RE-READ MY POST. I was criticizing a whiny liberal asshat who said he couldn’t find a job because of poor decision making, THAT’S ALL. And if you can’t find a job with your education, and I notice you don’t mention degrees in what or where you graduated in your class ranking either. Are you an EhD. PhD., MD, DO, DVM, DDS, what? And if you are an MD or DO, how awful must you be at what you do, that you can’t find a hospital, clinic, VA center, or abortion mill to work at, cleaning bed pans or disposing of murdered fetuses, if nothing else. You certainly have the bedside manor of a rabid pitbull bitch that just ate her young, so I’m doubting your degree is in psychiatry/psychology, and I feel REALLY SORRY for any animals you take care of, because THEY can’t ask for a different Vet. If you were any kind of MEDICAL doctor you would realize that so-called personality disorders are in no-way related to digestive functions. And if people like ME, make YOU question your oath, then I am doing the world a favor, by making YOU RETHINK whatever oath you took (did it come with a decoder ring and secret handshake too?) and hopefully keep you out of whatever profession you have decided to inflict yourself upon. And speaking six languages isn’t all that impressive. Reading, writing, understanding as well as SPEAKING them is more so, especially if they all have diverse original roots, Speaking six with a Latin base or Germanic base, meh, but mix in Mandarin, Russian, two or three tribes from the jungles of South America, North Korean and Vanuatu, I will be impressed.

          • Doc

            You have me confused with the original poster-please read again-To answer your question-It’s called the Hippocratic Oath –M.D -Surgeon–It appears English is confusing you at the moment since you don’t seem to recall who wrote what-so I”ll leave it at that-If you really had an interest in languages that would be a more interesting conversation.You do seem very agitated so I highly recommend you calm down-

          • nearoffutt

            I am sorry you made a stupid choice, too. It took too long to the loans as I had other issues that do not relate to this thread. The pay looked much better, before the pink slip eliminating my position as fuel prices for the buses broke the budget. No “boo hoo” silly one. I worked three years as a teacher and then went into a more stable field.

        • R. Clements

          You and your wife CAN choose when to have sex, and if it’s that critical to you that she not get pregnant, you can choose to give up something else to pay for protection.

        • Doc

          Sorry you are getting such vile responses from folks here-best of luck to you and your wife in all your endeavors

          • nearoffutt

            thank you. Yes, being in our 60s and having issues getting any work is interesting. She has a job she likes and family here. I didn’t like my job so moving to her made better since. We were a 10 hour drive apart.

        • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

          If you can’t afford to pay for abortion or abortion pills on your own dime, you had better make damn good use of the contraceptives your insurance plan covers.
          No extra money needed.

    • alanstorm

      Baby steps, Sarah.

    • Patricia Denny

      I was under the assumption that if you are covered by a company plan, you are not eligible for obamacare. Therefore, if something you need is not covered by your plan, you are personally responsible for the cost of said need. So Americans as a whole are not paying for that need.

      I could be wrong. Correct me if so.

    • Suzyqpie

      I agree, Pyrrhic victory, at best.

    • PhotoPhil

      Sarah… Read a little more. Hobby Lobby IS covering a large group of Birth Control drugs. But there are 4 that are considered abortifacients(termination of potentially post-fertilized egg). They have a problem with abortion. Not contraception. And their court case was about those drugs. So before you melt down, get all the facts.

  • NRPax

    Time to break out the s’mores ingredients and watch the fun.

  • Bree

    This battle may have been won but the war is still far from over. If I know anything about evil it never sleeps and pushes itself to greater efforts. Be on guard

    • NRPax

      Agreed, but for right now I plan to savor the victory.

      • Bree

        Yup me too I rejoice for every victory and in defeat it reminds me to continue and pray on.

        • RidgebackKing

          Where’s the victory? Now you get to pay for it as a tax payer. All the ruling did was shift the source of the funds to pay for it.

          • Kawfy

            I dunno….I did like the fact that they said a government agency cannot do an end run around the constitution either

          • Jill

            They did not provide it before and they will continue to not do so. The company has always provided plans that subsidized birth control that the employees are free to take advantage of. Did you read the petition before commenting? Something tells me you didn’t…..

          • jim

            The victory is that if you start a company you don’t have to chuck your religious beliefs out the window or face the consequences.

            We can always take the fight to the government but at least we’ve won the battle and advanced the war to maintain the constitution.

          • frgough

            The victory is that you can now elect representatives who will refuse to fund it.

          • R. Clements

            That may be true once we get a President who obeys the law, and gives a damn about what Congress does or doesn’t approve of.

    • mrspinky85

      Hey at this point I take what we can get.

    • mrspinky85

      Hey at this point I take what we can get.

  • Cathy_B_in_AZ

    Now this is the hope and change I’m talkin’ about! WOOT! / PTL!

  • Mary Mommy Happy 2016!

    The liberal feminist meltdown today is going to be epic.

    • NRPax

      Isn’t meltdown another way of saying “Just another day” for feminists?

    • Fed Up

      Sweet!

    • journogal

      Per what I’ve read on Twitter so far, it has somewhat begun on MSNBC.

    • LinTaylor ✓vitrified
    • garygramscom

      Better put on you drama shield… it’s going to get thick today.

      • Donald-Now2x/Sarc-w/0calories

        I’ve got my full containment HAZMAT suit on, because the lib shiite is going to hit the jet turbine fan at full speed.
        And I am going to LAUGH!!!!!!!

  • Hotlanta Mike

    Bitter clingers them Supreme Court Justices who voted in the majority…

  • TTTCOTTH

    Obama butthurt

  • craigzimmerman12

    I am surprised.

    • World B. Free

      So am I, after all, the SCOTUS upheld 0bamacare. That wasn’t just a “slippery slope” move, that was an earthquake.

      • Donald-Now2x/Sarc-w/0calories

        Earthquake? Felt more like a complete tectonic plate shift with all the rulings against ol’ stompy foots administration lately.

      • Donald-Now2x/Sarc-w/0calories

        Earthquake? Felt more like a complete tectonic plate shift with all the rulings against ol’ stompy foots administration lately.

    • yourmamatoo

      Me too.
      Happily surprised😊

  • Kawfy

    Awesome news….tho I wish it was based on first amendment rather than the religious freedom restoration act….but hey, I will take it….it’s a win!

    • Mary Mommy Happy 2016!

      I think of it that a small victory is better then no victory.

      • nc ✓s & balances

        It’s certainly a win for the 21,000 employees of Hobby Lobby who will still have their jobs.

        • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

          And employer provided insurance now they don’t get dumped into the Obamacare exchanges….

        • RidgebackKing

          Yeah, and now you the tax payer gets to pay for their contraception instead of the company. The only “win” is for Hobby Lobby family who got the cost shifted from them to you.

          • Jill

            Hobby Lobby previously provided plans that provided birth control and they will continue to do so. Didn’t you read about the case before commenting? The only bone of contention were the abortifacients designed to dislodge a pregnancy before implantation (morning after) and the IUD. They did not provide those two before and now they will not be forcibly compelled to do so. Literally nothing has changed, so your sudden concern for taxpayer dollars seems a bit odd.

          • David Ruiz

            There are only two forms of so called “birth control” that Hobby disagreed with being forced to provide. People should goo work, get paid, go home and buy their own dang morning after pills. Jeez, want the boss to wipe your booty when you go poop?

          • Donald-Now2x/Sarc-w/0calories

            If they have a delicate touch and wash it afterwards, sure why not?
            Do I really need the /sarc tag?
            Just in case, here it is: /SARC

          • GaryTheBrave

            It’s not like taxpayers weren’t going to pay for abortifants anyway. Anyone not covered by an employer’s plan will have it provided by Ocare.

          • Jill

            Why automatically assume that the taxpayer will be footing the bill? Are you leaving out the fact that individuals can freely contract services and pay for said service on the own on purpose or by design?

      • Humanary Stew

        I was cautiously optimistic with this case, especially after the three decisions last week. But very happy for the results.

    • sykora44

      It is in part due to the First Amendment – as was Citizen’s United. If they are willing to identify closely held (read: privately owned) corporations as extensions of their owners for free speech purposes, they have to do the same for (legitmate) religious belief purposes.

      • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        “…[C]orporations as extensions of their owners…”

        They do so for criminal law purposes– it’s called “piercing the corporate veil.” If you can’t evade the law because a “closely-held” corporation” is your alter ego, then you should get the positive benefit of that sort of thing also.

        • sykora44

          Exactly. You can’t consider a private corporation an extension of their owner for one purpose and not another.

          • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            But to Lefties, that would be foolish consistency, which, as we all know, is the hob-goblin of little minds.

      • MrSnuggles2k2

        Like wedding vendor businesses?

        I think so

  • stuckinIL4now

    They’ve cited RFRA in the opinion–wasn’t that a fabrication of Bubba Clinton and his libturds?

    • kssturgis62

      Yes that is Why Ginsburg called it in her dissent a “decision of startling breadth.”

      Justice Kennedy write to respond, in part, to Ginsburg’s characterization of the majority opinion, saying that it “does not have the breadth and sweep ascribed to it by the respectful and powerful dissent.”

      Kennedy’s opinion emphasizes that in this particular case, a mechanism for accommodating employers is “already in place” so that the majority opinion does not require the Govt to create “a whole new program or burden on the Govt”

      Justice Alito finds it very disturbing that an UNELECTED person can hand down this mandate.

      Justice Ginsburg calls it a Gender Equality Issue. Please the ERA amendment never passed get over it.

      The Court says that RFRA requires the Govt to provide closely-held corporate objectors the same accommodation it already provides nonprofit organization objectors.

    • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      RFRA– that was the law that was originally so Indians could use peyote. See what happens when you pass a law, Lefties? Other people have this annoying habit of employing yet another law– the Law of Unintended Consequences.

      • stuckinIL4now

        Yeah, it’s great when the tables turn and they get screwed by their own legislation.

        • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          Hoist by their own petard? Maybe. More like, “I didn’t know the gun was loaded.”

      • Kawfy

        Hoisted on their own petard?

        • Eric D. Mertz #NeverTrump

          That phrase is far more entertaining once you know what a Petard is. This is a Petard:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMDv1dwONsA

          • Donald-Now2x/Sarc-w/0calories

            I prefer to think of them being hoisted on their own LIBTARD!

  • mikeb112

    Good decision, but why the big split? 5 – 4, not great, but still it is the right decision.

  • Darth Venomous✓unmedicated

    Hell yeah! : D /

  • Maxx

    Look, up in the sky, it’s a bird…it’s a plane…

    …no, it’s malcontent “our way or the highway” union loving abortion demanding liberals on the ledges.

    0-2.

    A great way to start the week.

    • Darth Venomous✓unmedicated

      Jump! Jump!!! Do it! DO IT!!!!! X-D

  • Txgirlinnh

    Great news!!! Now to pop some popcorn and watch mass liberal hysteria unfold on twitter.

    • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

      The butthurt is strong today on twitter with intermittent lefty tears.

      • Donald-Now2x/Sarc-w/0calories

        A great day for sailing on Lake Butthurt, but don’t go swimming, it’s waaaay saltier than the Dead Sea, being replenished with all those lefty tears.

    • Eric D. Mertz #NeverTrump

      The butthurt is awesome today…

  • Dindu Nuffin

    Sandra Fluke meltdown, in 4…3….

  • David Ruiz

    I am good with providing regular preventive birth control and support anyone buying the morning after pill but as an employer I should no be forced to buy the morning after pill for you girlfriend or wife because you guys did not use a condom last night. Our relationship should be limited to work things, me paying for your morning after pill has nothing to do with our wok relationship.
    People want to argue that the morning after pill is not abortion but that is irrelevant, a person has a right and he freedom to believe what they want and if they personally do not believe in the morning after pill and do not attempt to prevent you from buying it with your own money, then leave them the duck alone. Quit trying to force people to accept your moral values.
    And I don’t go to church but I also do not want to hear “Christians do it also”. EVERYONE needs to chill out and stop all this stupid political fighting.

  • Cynical_Meliorist

    Booyah!

  • Jeffrey Rogers

    Decision was 5-4? Unbelievable. Should have 9-0

    • MrSnuggles2k2

      This is what scares me the most. One dead constructionist justice and the constitution is dead and our rights will be struck down.

    • Donald-Now2x/Sarc-w/0calories

      A win by one point is no different than a win by blow out. Take whatever wins we can get, no matter the margin of victory. A small win in a skirmish, emboldens the troops fight harder to win the overall war.

  • DutyFirst

    Betting Obama is in the ‘quiet’ room with his head on VJJ lap being soothed because those mean racists on the USSC have been mean to him again.

    • Donald-Now2x/Sarc-w/0calories

      Especially the former Klansman Clarence Thomas.

  • tsj710104

    No surprise the dessenters are the leftist control freaks. The unwise Latina sotomayer, the corpse ginsberg, breyer, and kagan.

  • Bob Young

    I guess Obama will now go to his phone and pen to obviate the Supreme Court now.

  • Mackie

    GREAT NEWS

    The Ist Amendment to the Constitution makes no distinction in regards to a privately (not government owned business) standing by its religious convictions. The so-called establishment Claus not withstanding.

  • yourmamatoo

    A great win for Hobby Lobby. Good call.
    HAHAHAHA
    Rejoice!
    Liberal heads popping all over the place.
    That in itself is a victory.

  • CAE

    What a glorious day! Kudos to #hobbylobby for their tenacity and sticking with their beliefs. I truly respect their decision to be closed on Sundays and Holidays. Sunday should be a day you spend with your family reconnecting and communicating, That is the way it used to be. Miss those days….

  • LinTaylor ✓vitrified

    Glad to hear it, but of course the fact that it was a split court is worrisome.

    • Eric D. Mertz #NeverTrump

      But not surprising…

      • LinTaylor ✓vitrified

        No, not surprising. I just hope the decision actually stands.

      • LinTaylor ✓vitrified

        No, not surprising. I just hope the decision actually stands.

  • HARP2

    Sandra Fluke on suicide watch

    • yourmamatoo

      Hee hee😊

    • Donald-Now2x/Sarc-w/0calories

      Watching to see if she has the guts to go through with it? Doubtful, when was the last time a lib did anything courageous, without hiding behind “mommy’s proverbial skirt?”

  • Mike

    The religious objection shouldn’t be the only condition. The gov’t shouldn’t be able to force a company (or an individual) to pay for anything, period. They don’t own said entity, and therefore they can’t determine how funds are spent.

    • yourmamatoo

      Agreed.

    • Danusha Diane Goska

      But … but … it’s for your own good!!!

  • journogal

    Some side notes here: On Twitter, I am starting to read calls to boycott Hobby Lobby (more power to those who do, this is a free country) and comparison of #ScaliaLaw to #ShariaLaw. Would love for one of our liberals explain how this ruling is similar to Sharia Law. Can’t wait for that explanation.
    Edit to Add: Also read a tweet that this will cause a baby boom. Really? Wasn’t it only four of the 20 listed contraceptives that Hobby Lobby objected to covering? Furthermore, can’t adults control their urges and/or go by the rhythm method? There are certain times in the female cycle that we are less fertile, thus lessen the chances (not 100 percent) of pregnancy.

    • Eric D. Mertz #NeverTrump

      Because Christianists *Actual tweet I saw*

      • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

        Aka the majority of United States Citizens. 78.4%. So what are they practicing Santeria?

        http://religions.pewforum.org/reports

        Atheist make up 1.6% of the US population they are not in the majority.

        • Eric D. Mertz #NeverTrump

          I know. It was ridiculous. I wish I had been able to respond to it.

    • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

      As if those people shop at Hobby Lobby in the first place….seriously what good is calling for a small group (minority) of the far left to boycott a store they probably don’t already shop at. The same people who supported Hobby Lobby are going to keep shopping at Hobby Lobby – the majority.

    • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

      I remember when they called for a boycott of Chick fil A. I believe that actually increased their traffic…..

      • Eric D. Mertz #NeverTrump

        I bought my first Chick-fil-A 4 count Number 6 as a response to the boycott. Now they all know my name and ring up my order when I walk in.

    • Jake_Was_Here

      Well, if you’re going to allow regular old Christians to act according to the dictates of their conscience in business matters, you’re going to have to afford the same freedom to religious NUTS too, like Muslim fundamentalists — no matter how unusual or bigoted their beliefs may be, you’re losing a lot of the ground upon which a case against them could be built.

  • Jill

    I’m using the tears from the sad kids over at HuffPo to figuratively flavor my coffee this morning.

  • Jeffrey Rogers

    Morning after pill is not health care related. Its only a convenience to those with no moral compass.

  • jim

    What I thinks is so interesting is watching the hashtag #SCOTUS on Twitter. It gives you a clear view of the liberal/progressive vs. conservative mindset. You can practically hear the liberals screaming about how companies don’t have religious freedom and all kinds of other nonsense. I wouldn’t be surprised if some liberal controlled cities are rioting before the day is over. It’s like “tolerance! tolerance! oh wait they voted against us? riot! riot!”

  • Hotlanta Mike
  • sykora44

    So now this will go to the bakery case in Colorado (I won’t bake a cake for a gay wedding). Which has a potentially further reaching outcome: Can the Government force a company to do something against it’s better judgement if it deems it to be in the “Public Good”. Though in that case it’s only about a cake, at some point, a lawyer will try to twist a decision like that to force a company to do business at a loss by arguing that the company going out of business – say, a coal plant that allegedly pollutes the environment – is in the “Public Good”

    • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      The Fifth Amendment and similar provisions in State Constitutions– if it’s THAT much of a “public good,” the Government can buy it under eminent domain. “Fine– you want me to provide this service? Buy me out, and pay me like an employee– or STFU.”

  • JBE

    At least they realized that their ruling should only be applicable to contraception.

    But, now instead of an employer paying for it, the government will.

    • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

      Hyde Amendment
      Hobby Lobby is willing to provide 16 different kinds of contraception NOT abortifacients.

      • JBE

        They weren’t being asked to provide any abortifacients.

        We shall see soon enough how this ruling works in the real world.

        • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

          Yes they were.

        • Darth Venomous✓unmedicated

          Shorter WhoDunce: “WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!” (chuckle)

        • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          You’re playing fast-and-loose here. The drugs in question prevent implantation of a fertilized ovum– which some people believe is already a developing embryo, hence, anything that cuts short, i.e., “aborts,” its further development into a fetus is “abortifacient.” It’s only the stage at which development is prevented which is the difference for these people, between these drugs and an “Abortion-abortion.”

        • journogal

          Not sure what world you are living in, but this ruling was for the real world, and Hobby Lobby is a part of it. What a childish comment. Don’t like them, don’t shop there. Do you need government to tell you to do that as well? This is the real world.

        • journogal

          Not sure what world you are living in, but this ruling was for the real world, and Hobby Lobby is a part of it. What a childish comment. Don’t like them, don’t shop there. Do you need government to tell you to do that as well? This is the real world.

    • NRPax

      Hopefully that part comes next.

    • Mathias Bjorkman

      Don’t know what difference it would make. You can go to a government sponsored healthclinic and get free birthcontrol anyway and the tax payers pays for that.

  • Donald-Now2x/Sarc-w/0calories

    YES!!! ANOTHER WIN FOR THE PEOPLE, NOT THE GOV’T!!!!!!!!

  • Its_My_Fault

    So corporations ARE people!

    • Stephen L. Hall #NonquamTrump

      No . . . soylent green is people.

    • Mark J

      No… the Religious ARE people

    • Mark J

      No… the Religious ARE people

    • gekkobear

      You are a person.

      You have rights allowing you to freely associate with whoever you choose.

      Freely associating with others does NOT remove all your rights.

      Sorry that you’re disappointed that ever associating with another person doesn’t strip everyone of their rights… I know you were really hoping for a backdoor to remove as many rights as possible.

    • journogal

      Aren’t people shareholders of corporations as well as employees?

  • Stephen L. Hall #NonquamTrump

    Seems a reasonable ruling. A person does not have to give up their religious beliefs merely because they open a business in the form of a corporation.

  • Its_My_Fault

    More “pen” more “phone” comin’ at ya now, folks!

  • stevebobby

    gotta love this:

    JGinsburg dissent shorter: majority doesn’t care about impact on thousands of women who work for Hobby Lobby

    And Ginsburg doesn’t care about upholding the constitution and following the rule of law, she’d rather vote with her bleeding heart rather than her head. A classic example of what is wrong with this country.

    • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

      Here’s where all the liberals on the court veer off the logic cliff. If this is all about gender equality their argument women have a right to access through employer based health coverage…..where is the same coverage for men? There is none it’s not equal. Their position is carving out a more than equal position for one gender “women”.

      • Its_My_Fault

        It is equalizing quickly in their defintiion,. That is why men must pay rates that include pregnancy care

        • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

          Yes the one size fit’s all approach of Obamacare – It’s not just men, ACA would have women who have already had hysterectomies being covered for contraception and pregnancy it’s lunacy.

        • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

          Yes the one size fit’s all approach of Obamacare – It’s not just men, ACA would have women who have already had hysterectomies being covered for contraception and pregnancy it’s lunacy.

          • Tigerspike

            For instance, my family, which includes my wife (tubal ligation) and daughters (8 and 5). We don’t need contraception or pregnancy care, yet we are required to have insurance that covers those.

          • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

            Yes it’s lunacy – this was used as the defense of all the people who got dumped from their current health plans when Obamacare website went up for enrolling. SEE they were inferior plans and Obamacare standards were far superior/

            Gov Rick Perry – solutions aren’t like tube socks one size does not fit all.

      • JBE

        This ruling won’t affect men.

        • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

          Men are not being treated equal under the US Constitution if the government is going to mandate that one sex has a right over another (employer based health insurance contraception coverage) you are favoring one gender over the other. That’s not equal protection under the law. Where is the mandate for men’s contraception coverage?

        • gekkobear

          So there is no male-centric contraceptive?

          Sorry you missed the new invention; it’s called a “condom”… and it’s not covered by your insurance; you have to buy it yourself.

        • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

          Because contraception is “women’s work”, right?
          Men can keep women from getting pregnant if they insist on a condom instead of just going around planting seeds wherever they feel like it.
          It takes a stupid woman AND a stupid man working together to make an unwanted baby.

      • JBE

        This ruling won’t affect men.

    • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

      Here’s where all the liberals on the court veer off the logic cliff. If this is all about gender equality their argument women have a right to access through employer based health coverage…..where is the same coverage for men? There is none it’s not equal. Their position is carving out a more than equal position for one gender “women”.

    • Its_My_Fault

      makes one wonder why the majority cared about the few million who supposedly had no healthcare in the first place?

    • Its_My_Fault

      makes one wonder why the majority cared about the few million who supposedly had no healthcare in the first place?

  • mrspinky85

    Yes, happy news!!! This is a great way to start my week!

  • mrspinky85

    Yes, happy news!!! This is a great way to start my week!

  • BoSplosion

    What a damned shame that some women out there will still have to pay for their own birth control pills and abortifacients. Cry me a river, statist hags.

  • BoSplosion

    What a damned shame that some women out there will still have to pay for their own birth control pills and abortifacients. Cry me a river, statist hags.

  • CO2 Producer

    Another narrow 5-4 decision reminds us how big of an effect a President’s choices for replacement SCOTUS judges can be. Everything is based in partisanship, in taking political sides–even with interpretations of what some may consider well-defined laws. Yet they aren’t as well-defined as they are just plain old convoluted and excessive.

    At least for today, the news is good. But remember that one SCOTUS replacement judge within the remaining time of Obama’s term could screw up everything. Electing those who will do what they can to keep the highest scales of justice swung in this direction would be one very important reason for the right-minded to get more involved in the fight–not later, but right now and for the foreseeable future.

  • CO2 Producer

    Another narrow 5-4 decision reminds us how big of an effect a President’s choices for replacement SCOTUS judges can be. Everything is based in partisanship, in taking political sides–even with interpretations of what some may consider well-defined laws. Yet they aren’t as well-defined as they are just plain old convoluted and excessive.

    At least for today, the news is good. But remember that one SCOTUS replacement judge within the remaining time of Obama’s term could screw up everything. Electing those who will do what they can to keep the highest scales of justice swung in this direction would be one very important reason for the right-minded to get more involved in the fight–not later, but right now and for the foreseeable future.

  • Aaron S

    so here is a liberal spin that might happen….if the government can pay for birth control, what else can the government do? can they provide pre natal care, child birth expenses, helath care for the child from womb to tomb, and at the same time, this is a ruling that allows the private corporations to say hey, as long as we are privately held, we dont have to pay for any benefits for anyone if we sue to prevent it based on this ruling…heck, in the slippery slop arguement, lets just not pay people anything…..wages, benefits, or what ever, because the government can do it….(remember people the above is an extrapolation of a discussion that i had with myself, no one else was hurt in this)

    • Cats4all✓Never Hillaryᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      Government already pays for birth control via county health departments and I think Medicaid. Nothing new there.

      I believe this ruling simply says that a closely held corporation (family owned) can’t be forced to pay for abortifacient birth control.

  • Aaron S

    so here is a liberal spin that might happen….if the government can pay for birth control, what else can the government do? can they provide pre natal care, child birth expenses, helath care for the child from womb to tomb, and at the same time, this is a ruling that allows the private corporations to say hey, as long as we are privately held, we dont have to pay for any benefits for anyone if we sue to prevent it based on this ruling…heck, in the slippery slop arguement, lets just not pay people anything…..wages, benefits, or what ever, because the government can do it….(remember people the above is an extrapolation of a discussion that i had with myself, no one else was hurt in this)

  • alanstorm

    “JGinsburg dissent shorter: majority doesn’t care about impact on thousands of women who work for Hobby Lobby”

    The problem in a nutshell – it’s not government’s JOB to “care”.

    • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

      And the government DOESN’T care.
      They see an opening for control and they grab it.

      • alanstorm

        Got it in one!

  • alanstorm

    “JGinsburg dissent shorter: majority doesn’t care about impact on thousands of women who work for Hobby Lobby”

    The problem in a nutshell – it’s not government’s JOB to “care”.

  • nearoffutt

    I am not attacking, suggesting attacking or supporting anybody, just asking a question. So Hobby Lobby won the right to save their money for themselves by refusing to provide ANY health care insurance to their employees, or is Hobby Lobby now still required to provide insurance, just not full coverage? Honestly, I never understood their religious point. They are arguing they do not want to pay for abortions, yet their stores are filled with mostly Chinese made junk. China made abortions mandatory for a long time and are now readily available, using money from Hobby Lobby purchases from Chinese government owned factories. Both insurance and buying Chinese stuff are indirectly paying for abortions. The only difference is Hobby Lobby does not see the Chinese women directly?

    • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      They always were going to pay for coverage of everything but those contraceptive methods– and there’s no reason to think they’ll stop now. But you sly little dickens you, framing it as “They’re trying to save money” being the motivation, i.e., they’re a bunch of hypocrites, even more so if they deal with Chinese suppliers.

    • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

      I don’t see your point – abortion is legal in the United States not just China following your logic Hobby Lobby should just close it doors in the United States because multiple “countries” have legalized abortion. What country could Hobby Lobby exist in that hasn’t legalized abortion?

    • Missdaisy

      Hobby lobby has always provided health insurance! Have you been paying attention at all? They provide birth control but will not pay for morning after pill!

    • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

      “Hobby Lobby won the right to save their money for themselves by refusing to provide ANY health care insurance to their employees…”
      Wrong. The only thing not covered by their insurance is abortion-inducing drugs. If you pick from the other 16 types of preventative contraceptives you don’t have to worry about “needing” the after-the-fact drugs.

    • spaceycakes

      ‘just asking a question’

      riiiight, sure you are. Did you read the case?

      • nearoffutt

        I was responding to the first postings that didn’t have the details or maj/min reports. HL pays for abortions in China indirectly was a point I asked about. I am actually unconcerned about abortion either way. I am amused at the rude attacks either way on political issues.

    • tom721

      For an answer to the first part, you should read the decision.

  • LegalizeShemp

    “You mean I still have to pay for my own contraceptive pills? Dang!” Sincerely, Sandra Fluke

    • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

      Nah, just for the pills for when she flakes out and forgets to take the preventative contraceptive pills.

  • WhiteDove

    I can’t stop smiling.

  • http://www.algoreisabidfatidiot.com/ “Rev Jim Jones”

    Think I’m going to spend some money at hobby lobby.

  • JT

    The right decision was made. Now, make sure you support Hobby Lobby and spend money there, just in case the Left tries to boycott them.

    • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

      They’re not above boycotting things they don’t use.

  • Randy Streu

    This seems like a victory, but somebody else just mentioned this as well: “Under the Hobby Lobby decision, the government can pay for the coverage itself so that women receive it.”

    So, the question is, does this decision put the taxpayers on the hook for things businesses AREN’T? Will our tax dollars now be used to pay for things our convictions wouldn’t allow us to cover through our businesses?

    • Perry

      That’s already the case. See: Planned Parenthood. This is about the far left telling religious people “we’re going to FORCE you to specifically pay for this disgusting act.” It was about POWER.

    • gekkobear

      If the government approves the funding, then yes… the taxpayers are on the hook.

      It doesn’t mandate a requirement for the government to fund it, it simply allows the possibility if the government deems it necessary.

      And just like a true pacifist can’t avoid paying for the military; you can’t pick & choose what government you fund. But you can push for representatives who won’t fund things you don’t want.

    • January 2017

      The next thing we need to work on is getting Government out of our Health Care and repeal Obamacare. If they can get abortion paid for completely,,and we are paying for it with our taxes,,,,then eliminate the 20% copay for all other medical issues. But that would also either raise our taxes or the premium payments though Obamacare. Government just needs to stay out of our lives when it comes to are medical needs. These women shout keep out of our uterus,,,well I will gladly stay out of it,,,which mean don’t ask me to pay for their abortion either. I didn’t get them pregnant so I don’t feel I need to pay for their abortions.

  • mommyoffive

    Ok, could someone here educate me just a little bit? I was under the impression that Hobby Lobby and Conestega (hope I spelled that right!) didn’t want to pay for CERTAIN contraceptives, i.e. abortifacients. But that only excluded maybe 4 types of contraception that was mandated. The other 16 or so would still be available and paid for by the employers under the employer’s “health care benefits package”. So, what’s the beef about the SCOTUS ruling by the libs? Women aren’t being denied contraception, the employers are just saying if you want Plan B, an abortion, or something to that effect, then you can pay for it yourself. Am I correct in assuming that, although the libs actually GOT contraceptive coverage for all men, women, and elderly whether or not these folks want or need it, the libs think this ruling is bad? Someone please help me here, because I’m lost on this.

    • Randy Streu

      Basically, because the Left narrative was filled with hysteria and lies. Also, while that’s true for the Hobby Lobby, it SOUNDS LIKE the decision may be across-the-board. Catholics, for example, are completely against any birth control.

      • mommyoffive

        Fair enough. But here’s another question. If libs want employers to mind their own business about reproduction rights, then why do they want those same employers to pay for the anti-reproduction products? Now, this is just me, but if I want someone to stay out of my business, I don’t then require that same someone to fund my business.

        • January 2017

          No it’s not just you. They want everybody to stay out of their uterus but want everybody to pay for their uterus.

        • GenoMN

          Stop…you’re thinking too logically. :)

    • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

      They wouldn’t have anything to bark about if they acknowledged that all birth control, including those for after you have failed to use real birth control, is still available to all women who want to buy it.

  • David

    WHY do some expect their every little desire to come out of someone else’s pocket? You want birth control? It’s YOUR body, you say you can do what YOU want with it, YOU PAY FOR IT.

  • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

    So the women who want the government out of their bedrooms and uteruses might still get the government to pay for their “mistakes” if abortion inducing drugs aren’t covered by private insurance.
    Brilliant.

  • spaceycakes

    when are people going to stop saying ‘contraceptives’ when it’s abortifacients?

    • Ruth

      Thank you. I don’t know how many times I’ve had to tell people Hobby Lobby’s insurance covers birth control.
      Edit: But if they didn’t want to offer bc, that should be their business.

    • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

      I’d bet most of them have no idea how to spell abortifacients.

  • https://abrentco.com A Brent Co

    The freedom to choose should never be limited.

    • Guest

      I’ve spent a few decades on this planet. I was adopted. I’ve understood that for nearly 50 years… and every single day of it I have been thankful that whomever my biological mother was, she did not “choose” to murder me. Get bent, Kevin. Take your “choices” and stuff them.

      • https://abrentco.com A Brent Co

        Where did this come from???

        First of all… this is an article about chooses for business. Whether I agree or disagree is not anyones business but mine.

        However… I do support the right you have to make idiotic replies to posts. Even if you don’t know what I was talking about.

        • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

          We all know that “the right to choose” is a euphemism for abortion. That is the only way it is ever used, especially in a discussion about contraception and abortion.
          Say what you mean.

          • https://abrentco.com A Brent Co

            Read carefully. “freedom to choose”

            Open your mind a little. Not everyone that speaks is looking for a fight.

    • alanstorm

      Except for what schools your kids attend, what the curriculum is, how much water your showerhead uses, the efficiency of your A/C unit, whether you can buy a suppressor for your rifle, whether you can BUY a rifle, whether you can buy raw milk or wood-aged cheese – shall I go on?

      The only choices the liberal socialists want to allow are the right to have sex with whomever you want, and whether you can abort the results if it happens to cramp your lifestyle.

    • ISurvivedaBlueState

      Precisely! Those who run companies should be able to choose whether they are going to provide certain drugs or not — especially if those drugs are freely available elsewhere and completely unrestricted except for that pesky question of “who’s paying for them?”

  • R. Clements

    OK. but don’t get the big whoop here. The gov’t now says “OK, maybe we can’t force you to provide it. So hand over your tax money (or else), and we’ll use your dollars to provide it anyway”. To do that, they’ll hire more government employees. Philosophical win, practical wash.

  • richhenz

    The NEW 1-2-3:
    1. Corporations Are People;
    2. Money Is Speech;
    NOW
    3. Corporations Have Rights Of Religious Discrimination.

    All this strand und drum over Hillary’s husband’s money, but not a peep about Clarence Thomas’s wife’s millions from right wing lobbyists. Considering the corporate monarchy’s grip on this Supreme Court Justice, is this Orwellian perversion of our constitution any surprise?

  • Carolyn#OYSD

    Re Ginsburg: since when is it within the confines of the SCOTUS to base their rulings on CARING? Their job is to follow the Constitution. NOT their FEEELLLLLIIINNNNGGGGSS.

  • richhenz

    If we are going to accept religious belief as law, and a law that supersedes laws already on the books (Roe v. Wade), this decision means that Muslim-owned corporations can enforce Sharia Law over their employees. Doh! Never thought of that, did you? This is a clear case of litigant-shopping by the Supremes. “We’re doing to mess with Obamacare any way we can. If we can find any case that will interfere with/denigrate Obamacare, we’ll hear it, and we’ll decide against expanded health care in any form. Oh, you’ve all already read that many women use “birth control pills” for health reasons that have nothing to do with “advancing promiscuity” (and it’s a fact that this is at the heart of this rabid objection to women controlling their own reproductive organs). Yes, and because it undermined your set beliefs, you not only dismissed that information as unimportant, but as proof that “the left will make up anything to support abortion” in your mind. Can’t help you there.

  • abe-froman

    “Under the Hobby Lobby decision, the government can pay for the coverage itself so that women receive it.” How bout women pay for the coverage and receive it…WTF does it have to do with the employer or the government.

    • Ruth

      Shouldn’t the guys they’re having sex with help pay for it? Maybe they don’t know them well enough to ask. Or maybe they don’t know the guys’ names. Or they could just ask for money upfront to offset the $9 a month they would have to pay. Talk about a cheap trick.

      • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

        Men get very sexually responsible when you tell them “NO!” if there’s a chance you will get pregnant.

  • Tom Winegar

    Geez, I hope Shannon Bream can’t conceive anything more than the simplest of thoughts.

  • Tom Winegar

    The reversal of Roe v Wade will end the debate and it’s science that will supply the data. Those with a heart grieve for the murdered millions not the women that murder millions.

  • Doc

    GOD CONDONES ABORTION-

    • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

      Brilliant.
      Does he whisper in your ear?

      • Doc

        Yes SHE does-btw-didn’t you just ask me not to join in your lovely “discussion”? and yet here you are replying and encouraging me-Seems you get all riled up when any question of your “religious” status?I love the idea of religion and beliefs-unfortunately most of the people here sure don’t seem representative of anything holy-Where is all the love and compassion for your fellow man/woman??

        • spaceycakes

          hahahaha; what a joke.

        • native son

          Let me get this straight. In order to love your fellow man/ woman you have to provide their birth controll? That is the libtard way!

  • Luca D.

    People should be responsible for their own birth control. Government should not provide it nor should they force others to provide it. If anything, Liberals, the Democratic Party and any other like-minded people should provide it out of there own funds as a public service, (if that’s what they truly believe in). In other words, put YOUR money where your mouth is. Not other people’s money..

  • Will Brent

    It’s about time someone stood up to this current presidents blatant attempts to make laws contrary to the constitution.

  • David

    America won. May I add my endorsement of Hobby Lobby. As a male it is not a store for me. However I drive a lady friend of mine there frequently. Hobby Lobby employees are kind, professional, helpful and knowledgeable and are paid well for their work.

  • Racer2787

    I haven’t read yet which justices ruled for or against, but I can imagine it went down politically ideological lines. So just imagine if there had been one more liberal justice, instead of a conservative.

  • David

    Coming soon obama’s whine party. Watch for it.

  • Jay Stevens

    Not a good week for this administration. SCOTUS slapped Obama’s hand four times in a week.

  • Just My Thoughts

    Healthcare is a benefit, not a right. Some businesses are too small to even qualify for group health insurance. They are penalized for being a small business. They should receive the same rates as a large corporation and make them all equal. But then of course, the big companies love when the little ones go under.
    Those who receive Medicare/Medicaid earned their RIGHT to have health care BENEFITS when they reach a certain age after years of WORKING FOR IT which is more than can be said for those who have sat on their behinds and haven’t contributed anything to society but more kids who learn from their lazy parents that they can get “benefits” for free because it is their “right”. These are the same people who, in most cities, have access to clinics that will provide them with “FREE” contraceptives.

  • Tanker74

    Hatred, rage and bigotry of the contraception zealots is on full display today. Typical.

  • leela28

    So I have to turn down a job because u don’t feel like being a fat knocked up pregger ppl already find it hard to find work. Then they find it and find it a a private Co that won’t pay for BIRTH CONTROL. F*ck u. Not everyone wants to be some guys disgusting breeding cow

  • leela28

    You are not going to force me to have a kid.

    • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

      Smart women know how to prevent pregnancy.
      There are many ways.

  • David Calvani

    “majority doesn’t care about impact on thousands of women who work for Hobby Lobby”
    Nor should it. The Court was asked if the CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS of the OWNERS were being violated. The effect of their ruling on the workers (on way or the other) was wholly irrelevant to that question. Ginsburg just doesn’t get her job description, does she?

  • Scott Snoopy

    any day, big gubmint is told no; its a good day for freedom

  • http://mindprod.com roedygreen

    This ruling can be misused. For example if I simply want to save money, I can make claims I am opposed to giving benefits of various types to my employees for religious reasons. I can withhold money on the grounds they might spend it on alcohol or drugs. To avoid this, Hobby Lobby should should not be required to fund contraceptives, but they should be required to give equivalent money to their workers to compensate

  • JamesFBarry

    If she doesn’t want the baby she will get “rid” of it…Now Abortion is the only way….You have just supported more abortions… Hope your happy now.

    • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

      If “she” doesn’t want a baby, she will take all the pills to prevent it.

  • Pat Farley

    Yes the majority does care about Hobby Lobby females. Because these women are part of American’s citizens….not to be told what the government can do to them. Whether or not you want to admit it….its a loss for barrack and his goons.

  • Jake_Was_Here

    So what are the media talking about? The 35-page-long dissenting opinion, of course.

  • Roto ✓Intentionally Left Blank

    That’s good news. Now if Republicans can retake the Senate, amend Obamacare by replacing every instance of the word “tax” with “fee”, and then go back through the Supreme Court to have them find it unconstitutional.

  • Michael Parks

    The only way it would matter is if enough women choose not to work there and men don’t want/ need to. They could have found a way to kill this year’s Holiday Sales,
    Time will tell if there will be more things to object to. I suspect there is a stack of it.

  • riccapooh

    Holy judgmental Christians, Batman…

  • Thomas Sonne

    anarchy-better than monarchy– I agree Pratz dont vote!!– in fact you ought to show you paid taxes to vote