The Department of Health and Human Services has put out yet another Obamacare “enrollment” number that is completely unverifiable:

But just because the numbers aren’t verified doesn’t mean the administration can’t count on the lapdog media to pass along their claims without question.

Done:

Would any “journalists” like to do some digging to see if that’s an actual number or just another arbitrary, baseless or wildly misleading claim? Anyone? Anyone?

How many have paid for their plans? At very best these are “shopping cart” numbers.

https://twitter.com/RickRlthomasjr/status/445660430992560128

That’s if it’s ever released.

How many have paid, and how many of those were previously uninsured? Don’t ask, because they’re not keeping track of such insignificant information.

  • JeffWRidge

    The Obama Administration has made it part of their strategy to release vague numbers with no details. I suspect that a lot of the numbers they release (such as unemployment figures) are pure undistilled BS. They make up numbers that they think sound good, and release them to a media willing to push the numbers without question. Until they release all of the data, I refuse to believe any of it.

    • DC is Evil

      Even WHEN they release all of the data, I’m not going to believe it. They have lied at every turn, and have lost all credibility.

      • JeffWRidge

        True enough. Obama has cooked the books so often that he could put out a book cookbook.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Bet there’s *still* even more people that have lost their coverage…

    • tops116 ✓Quipper

      6.5 million is the most cited number thus far. Wouldn’t it be ironic if the cancellation number hit 7 million by March 31st?

      • mike_in_kosovo

        Why, yes…yes it would.

      • Nick Woodley

        No. That would be predictable.

        Personally, I think they’ll go for at least 8.

        – N

  • Mandy in SC

    Reasons you can be exempt from Obamacare, directly from the ACA website. Check out number 14. I wonder how many reasons people can come up with for that one.

    • H50 ✓RAT

      #14 covers trying to use their crappy non functional website.

      • Corey Dennison

        Hell, there are so many weasel words in that list, that anyone who wants out of this turd of a law can do so with a minimum of effort.

        I can’t believe these morons were given the reins of power.

        • H50 ✓RAT

          Much like when Obama decreed that we could keep our old crappy insurance if we really, really wanted to, except for the fact that according to my carrier, it no longer existed and the new rates were already set, so if it was somehow miraculously available again, it would be at the new rate.
          The IRS should have big fun with this list, no insurance and now no fine. How the heck are we funding this expensive turd again?

    • lainer51

      15. You voted for Barry.

  • Marvin Nelson

    And in other news, the recent earthquake in LA was caused by a combination of fracking and climate change.

    • Hey, That’s Pretty Good

      And criticisms of Obamacare.

  • tops116 ✓Quipper

    Here’s another one: how many of those 5 million were previously uninsured and how many had plans that were cancelled because of Obamacare? In any case, it’ll be fun watching the Left spin the “smaller than the number of people who got cancellation notices” numbers.

    What exactly is the Left’s thought process here, anyway? Even if by some miracle that Team Obama meets the 7 million number by March 31st, do they assume that everyone will embrace Obamacare? “Well, I wasn’t too happy about losing the plan I liked or paying more to replace it, but since a bunch of other people signed up, I guess that makes it all worth it.” Oh well, it’s no less silly than “We have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it” or “It’ll be really popular once it’s implemented.”

  • mrspinky85

    Didn’t they say they didn’t track who was already insured and switched over? Signing up but not paying means nothing. Also, what is the demographics of those who signed up? Because if it’s not a lot of healthy young people it’s not going to be sustainable. Lastly, how is 5 million anywhere close to 30 million?

  • LinTaylor ✓vitrified

    This whole thing reminds me of that scene in the original Willy Wonka where one kid asks how they make Everlasting Gobstoppers and Wonka shuts down the conversation by saying “I’m a trifle deaf in this ear. Speak a little louder next time.”

  • Peyton

    Based on the states marketplace paid numbers, the number is somewhere between 60 to 70%. So 3 to 3.5 million.

  • Sketti

    How many of them are the 30 million uninsured that King Obama said were in desperate need of health insurance?

  • stuckinIL4now

    And I’m sure they’ll claim 7 million enrollments–magically and miraculously–by March 31.

    • Hey, That’s Pretty Good

      And then when asked for proof, they will stomp their foot and cry.

      • nc ✓s & balances

        And blame Repubs for being “negative.”

  • lainer51

    and I would believe anything they say, why??

  • nc ✓s & balances

    We can safely assume that any number they throw at us will be the absolutely tippy-top highest number they think they can get away with putting out there. We can also assume that, no matter how close or far away from the truth that number will be on March 31st, it can only go DOWN from there. Because you know that a significant number of people, even if they pay one or two months of premiums – which HHS will be sure to count – will stop paying at some point.

    Anyone think HHS will report those dropout numbers?

    • Hey, That’s Pretty Good

      Of course they won’t report the drop out numbers. Because if people drop out of their plans because it’s much higher than they were told, that makes Obamacare look bad. And we all know that they don’t want Obamacare looking bad.

  • Hey, That’s Pretty Good

    As soon as they prove it, people with a brain will believe it.

    HHS could claim to have signed up 11 Gazillion people (I know i don’t need to point out that there aren’t that many people on the planet) and the average liberal would believe it. We already know the libs are celebrating this.

    But the rest of us, especially those of us who have been negatively effected in some way, we want more than just their word. Because their word doesn’t mean anything to us.

    Also, I’d like to know how many of the enrollees are paying premiums, and how many are just on Medicaid?

  • nc ✓s & balances

    Question: If someone has paid health insurance for only one month during the year, does that qualify him to be exempt from the tax penalty for that year?

    This assumes there will still be the Individual Mandate.

    • Hey, That’s Pretty Good

      Good question.

      Another question is, what happens if someone gets insurance through the exchanges, and then loses their job or something and can no longer afford to pay for it, and they have to cancel their plan. Will they be penalized the next year because they dropped their plan, or will they be safe from the penalty because at one point they were insured?

      • nc ✓s & balances

        I’m guessing no one really knows.

        • Hey, That’s Pretty Good

          The people who are supposed to be answering those questions sure as hell aren’t saying.

          • nc ✓s & balances

            Especially with BHO making all those changes as the mood strikes him.

          • Hey, That’s Pretty Good

            To benefit his Democrat friends who knows they are going to pay a heavy price for backing Obamacare.

    • twistedgenius

      nope.. you will have to pay a percentage of the tax for each month not covered.I just went thru this same question when renewing insurance at work.
      A tax is assessed for each month that a person is not covered. It is pro-rated, so that a person who is not covered for only a single month would pay 1/12th of the tax that would be due for the full year.

      • nc ✓s & balances

        Thank you. I appreciate the answer.

        • twistedgenius

          you are welcome..

          Also remember it will not be just $95.00 that is based off if you only make $9500 a year.. It is $95 / or 1% of your income for the year (i am guessing gross income like how they do food stamps) so if you make $25,000 a year it would be $250 for the fine.

          You can read more here on it.

          http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-taxes.php

          • nc ✓s & balances

            Right. That was always another one of those nasty little surprises waiting for the unsuspecting. Like the sky-high deductibles on the “bargain” policies.

      • snakebit

        If it’s like the MA coverage requirements there’s also a grace period that you’re allowed to have a lapse in coverage without penalty – 60 days if I recall correctly – but even if you find a job quickly there’s always a waiting period before you’re eligible for the new employer’s plan. What nobody has explained is if the law requires me to have coverage why can’t I sign up at any time? What is the purpose of an annual enrollment period unless the purpose is to maximize penalties collected by making it more likely that there will be a gap in your coverage.

  • $9844146

    Prediction- March 31 HHS press release 7.1 mil “transitioned”, “effectuated”, “enrolled”. lol

  • Frank Grayson

    And how many are illegal immigrants who don’t have any intention of ever paying?

  • Patriot fan

    Wait what? this is success? I thought the democrats and president took a wrecking ball to our health care system because of 35 million people that were uninsured. So using the old math instead of common core math, that means that 30 million people are still uninsured. Sounds like failure to me.

    • H50 ✓RAT

      You forgot to add in the 6.5 million that lost their insurance because of Obamacare. Still at a net loss of insured.

  • ked5

    and how many lost their insurance again?