We didn’t have former Texas Gov. Rick Perry to kick around this campaign, as he dropped out of the presidential race first. Still, his 2011 debate gaffe, during which he couldn’t remember the name of the third government agency he had pledged to eliminate, is still fodder for political jokes.

At tonight’s #DemDebate, the moderators asked a similar question of the candidates, but rather than naming just two of three government programs they’d cut, both candidates managed to duck the question altogether — likely a relief for them and the moderators as well.