The Honolulu Star-Advertiser reports that the Hawaii Health Connector will immediately set in motion a contingency plan to shut down operations. The Health Connector will cease new enrollments this Friday, discontinue outreach services May 31, transfer its technology to the state by Sept. 30 and completely eliminate its workforce by Feb. 28.

Residents of Hawaii will have to re-enroll in the federal healthcare.gov exchange to ensure coverage next year. Migrating to healthcare.gov is estimated to cost $30 million.

Nearly $205 million in federal grants were awarded to build and operate the Hawaii Health Connector online marketplace.

It could be worse.

  • Petrucio14

    And if the Supreme Court rules that states who do not have an exchange are ineligible for subsidies as the bill clearly dictates …

    • Aparition42

      Add to that the likeliness this is somehow interpreted as a lapse in coverage resulting in retroactive fines for all the customers. Pay up or submit to reams of paperwork, litigation, and auditing to prove you don’t owe.

      • Ken Rusnak

        Send every Hawaiian a bill in September 2016 for their share of the wasteful backing of the ACA: instant red state.

        • Ferrari fan

          more like instant rioting and hence, martial law.

          • ariasmom

            People in Hawaii do not riot, lol.

    • Tiff #Voted3rdparty ✓

      but does this news sway that ruling, not saying its suppose or isn’t suppose, really asking if this will factor in?

      • Petrucio14

        There are a number of states without exchanges already. If the court takes the clear wording of the law, the subsidies are history. The Democrats are trying to rewrite history and pretend that their intent was to offer subsidies to everybody. The fact is that they wrote the bill to coerce the states into making exchanges. They may be hoist on their own petard.

        • Tiff #Voted3rdparty ✓

          I hope so. This is a mess for everyone most people don’t like, can’t use, and can’t afford it.

          • Roberto

            If you read the comments on the GOP Facebook, they are overwhelmingly favorable to the ACA.

          • Grumpy

            If you read the comments on the page that is staring you in the face, they are overwhelmingly unfavorable to the ACA

          • big red machine

            not one republican voted for the ACA. I repeat with clarity, not one single republican voted for the ACA. One of the few things they have gotten right lately.

          • Hotlanta Mike

            Which is why half the demokrat Senators that voted for it without reading it (and some that even got bribes) are no longer in Congress…

          • big red machine

            thank goodness for that and now the Republicans in control of both houses of Congress need to act like it

          • Hotlanta Mike

            They need to repeal Obamacare using reconciliation and name in honor of Harry Reid.

          • big red machine

            Sounds good Hotlanta Mike.

          • ThomasCollins1

            “Which is why half the demokrat Senators that voted for it without reading it…”

            Not one of our 535 congressmen read this, nor did Obama or anyone else. Most people would have trouble with 2,700 pages of Dickens let alone 2,700 pages of legalese. The only people who actually read this stuff are the “special interest groups”, and they divide the task among many.

          • Hotlanta Mike

            No republican voted for it. The House was controlled by demokrats. They could pass whatever they wanted. If you recall the election of Scott Walker was going to stop it dead in it’s tracks in the Senate because it needed 60 votes to pass. Harry Reid pulled the reconciliation card to get it out of conference and and a simple majority, which the demokrats held.

            The rest is history, as are the demokrats.

          • Roberto

            Doesn’t that strike you as odd?

          • Hotlanta Mike

            Please tell me when Obamacare is expected to be FULLY implemented? It’s been 5 years now…

          • ClassicFI

            Not before 2017. for obvious reasons. Watch Obama delay the 50-99 Employer mandate past the current unconstitutional 2016 delay its’ at now.

          • Hotlanta Mike

            In other words only a percentage of Americans have been impacted by Obamacare to this point…

          • Optimus Quantitative Easing

            Isn’t it nice all those Democrat voters going on the GOP FB page, newsflash they are not fooling anyone.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            newsflash they are not fooling anyone.

            Other than Roberto, of course.

          • http://quiettowers.wordpress.com/ InRussetShadows – Never Trump

            LOL. You can’t be THAT simple, can you?

          • Carter_Burger67

            yea, it’s not like a bunch of proggies are astroturfing the GOP’s Facebook page. Proggies have never done anything like that before, right?

          • NCRelite

            ..

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Because everybody that posts on the GOP Facebook page is a republican. There’s NO precedent to look at where the left uses social media to advance their propaganda. Oh wait…

            If you believe that then you’re likely to believe the MA version of Obamacare is successful too. (Scroll up a half dozen posts) LOL!

          • Janice la Pinta

            You guys are all lying. stop that, just dumb.. Not to ‘Roberto’ to the rest of you.

          • Janice la Pinta

            well thats a lie., so is the lie about the Hawaii Health Connector closing

        • tops116 ✓Quipper

          “We always meant for everyone to get subsidies. We just didn’t write that in the bill because… um, well, we had to pass it to find out what was in it. Listen, we know what we’re doing. After all, we made sure to protect our own plans, after all. Just obey the law of the land… except when it comes to what we intended instead of what was written.”

          • Dan13

            What the hell is a waiver concerning federal law? You don’t have to follow the law because you’re my friend??

        • Frogmouth

          Picking nits, I know, but the actual quote is “…hoist WITH…”

          • Petrucio14

            If you’re quoting Shakespeare, sure. I was quoting Sideshow Bob! 😉
            Thanks for the correction.

          • Bob Richards

            How long have you been looking for an opportunity to use that phrase?

          • Petrucio14

            Longer ago than I can remember, but my memory is getting shorter all the time. I consider that to be a blessing, there is so much I could choose to forget. The last six years, for instance.

          • ariasmom

            LOL

          • Frogmouth

            But Sideshow Bob would have never misquoted Shakespeare except intentionally, as evidenced in Simpsons episode 408 Funeral for a Friend.

        • jb1111

          Gruberism at it’s Best.

      • Dan13

        It shouldn’t. The decision should be based on the wording in the law, independent of state exchanges failing because no one is signing up.

      • Perso Nasplit

        I think it will. The justices are not going to say “tough luck, it should have been written differently.” they are simply going to re-write that portion. They did it once before on Obamacare, they will do it again.

        This failure will limp along for another 3 years, and eventually cost us billions upon billions, but it wont cost hollywood or the ruling elite anything.

        • Bob Wynne

          I do not think a Republican Congress will rewrite anything to facilitate O’care.

          • Perso Nasplit
          • Bob Wynne

            Sorry, I was confused which “they” you meant. Obviously, you meant the very people you were talking about.
            Somehow, I got on some tangent about the only people that should be able to rewrite a portion of a piece of federal legislation. You may well be right.

          • Steve Skubinna

            Who do you mean? Obama, his phone and his pen?

          • Carter_Burger67

            With McConnell staying in the Senate, Obama doesn’t need his phone or pen anymore. Mitch is his bitch and Obama knows it. Boehner is a weeping mess, so there’s no problem in the house anymore.

          • Perso Nasplit

            Constitutionally speaking, it should fall on congress, but when has that stopped this administration?

          • porkchop6209

            Constitutional Tangents will do that to you…….try to keep up. The Libbies are counting on the Neanderthal Response from all of us. “Duhhhhhh”
            “See, we told you so! Na, Na,Na,Na,Na!”

          • Perso Nasplit

            Btw, I just realized the justification for striking that section from the law as “unconstitutional”.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection_Clause

            They simply have to say the law, as written, doesnt protect citizens who dont have an exchange available.

          • Carter_Burger67

            Not so fast my friend. the Republican leadership in Congress will do what needs to be done to make the Supremes happy. They (the GOP leaders) will fall all over themselves to make this right.

          • Bob Wynne

            When is it RINO season again?

          • NutsRunningTheAsylum

            Tuesday, November 8, 2016.

          • Carter_Burger67

            It’s always RINO season…except during election time.

        • Tiff #Voted3rdparty ✓

          Sigh, I know you are probably right, but I’m still going to hope it’s the opposite. although either way it’s still going to cost us ships full of money. I just hope they do their jobs this time and Roberts doesn’t give them an out like he did last time.

    • midasrex

      … Republicans have already said they are going to help save Obamacare if this happens. What the everloving f@#$.

  • TocksNedlog

    $2,500 savings per family per year!
    X 82,000
    In the LOSS column
    = Way to go, libs!
    Way.to.go

    • Cärlös Dängër ✓certifiable

      I don’t know why virtually no one (in my circles, anyway) is bringing up that inconvenient number. The best I get is the isolated example that someone got a procedure done that they couldn’t afford previously. That’s nice, but… $2,500 savings per year!! Keep your doctor! Keep your plan! Anyone…?

      • Tiff #Voted3rdparty ✓

        I don’t know so far in my circle everybody is spending more on doctor visits or just avoiding going to the doctor all together.

        • Grumpy

          And ER usage is up, the opposite of what was promised.

          Hey, how we doing on the “not add one dime to the deficit” part?

          • Scott Sage

            Well, they didn’t just add ONE dime……..

          • porkchop6209

            I see what they did there!

          • deplorablebklynboy

            of course er visits are up. where the hell do you think all these illegal aliens go for FREE medical proceedures

          • porkchop6209

            Other than for coupling with the word “advice”, that is an adj/adverb that I wish would be put on the banned list, the “No Fly” list and any other list we can squeeze it on to.

          • Tiff #Voted3rdparty ✓

            I think we are getting a F on that, but with common core math and the grading curve C+ or B- depending on what pundit you ask. Yes, ER numbers are rising because they can’t find regular doctors to visit, but hey that’s a secret it’s working beautiful, (if you want it to crash and burn to be replaced with single payer that is) 😉

          • DoNotDumbHere

            Bingo, Tiffini. That’s been their objective all along, IMO.

          • Tiff #Voted3rdparty ✓

            I’m still torn on when, personally I think they wanted it before the 2012 election, but that didn’t happen, well, part of me now feels its planned crash and burn was suppose to be 2017 after O left office in order to shift all the blame to whoever the new president was. Just my theories I have many, that’s just one way I look at it.

        • Cärlös Dängër ✓certifiable

          I know; I was speaking of exceptions. Everyone’s rates have gone up (ironic for something called the Affordable Care Act), except those that didn’t pay to begin with.

      • Al’s Grandpa

        I’d be curious what the deductible was for whomever had the procedure and compare it to what they would have had to pay with insurance that wasn’t mandated by the government.

      • HawaiiTalks

        where do i began…

      • The_Kat ✓vilified

        And those people who got a procedure done that they couldn’t afford previously might very well have been eligible for Medicaid before Obamacare if they were poor enough.

  • SisterMary

    Gee, nobody could see that coming…

    • Tiff #Voted3rdparty ✓

      if only there were people around at the time to warn of this oh the humanity!

      • Cärlös Dängër ✓certifiable

        If only.

      • Askwatch

        Yes, imagine if a movement had arisen to stop the madness before it was even passed. Even though its members would have been called violent, and “hatemongers” and thoroughly vilified in the leftist press, accused of complicity in every vile crime imaginable, still, they might have prevented the Democrats from their headlong rush to disaster.

        I see things as they might be, and say, “Why not?”

        And Harry Reid answers, “Reconciliation.”

  • jaded

    imploding as planned I see….

  • Don Reed

    I can’t believe they couldn’t time this for a Friday night news dump. I mean, they were so competent in every other respect!

  • Tiff #Voted3rdparty ✓

    Guess now know why Dem’s are struggling to get O care fixed now when just a few weeks ago Reid called it a smashing success…

  • Lamontyoubigdummy

    Hawaii.

    And somehow HanahFiveO not hardest hit.

    Gee…it’s like all the smart a$$es blessed with common sense saw all this coming or something.

    It’s completely tanked (but they won’t admit it) in California too. It’s a joke there. Which is the worse government failure. Moon Beam’s water ban on the “plebes” or Covered California.

    • Tiff #Voted3rdparty ✓

      IDK must wait and see if we can survive the summer, heat makes people crazy. But I think long run, Covered CA is going to cost us all more than the water ban.

      • Lamontyoubigdummy

        Nope. Your state government dumped a 1/2 trillion gallons of fresh water back into the Pacific for a fish that wasn’t even on the endangered species list.

        That’s gonna cost you more in the short run.

        In the long run, instead of $35billion spent on THINKING ABOUT BUILDING TRAINS…maybe nuclear and desalinization plants.

        Funny how the envirocultist loonies are fine draining all the water out of the Seirra Nevadas.

        In any case, the Gulf Streams are flying, the sprinklers are still running, and all the pools and hot tubs are filled on Al Gore and Leo DeCaprio’s estates.

        • Tiff #Voted3rdparty ✓

          I feel so much better now….’-)

        • Ferrari fan

          agriculture here in the San Joaquin Valley is going to die after this year, I can feel it. We get another blazing summer like last year and it will literally dry up.

  • Don Reed

    I vote that we bring Ed Milibrand over here to fix this mess.

    • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      Mr. Leader “Ray Romano” couldn’t make any more of a hash of it, even his experience with the bacon sandwich notwithstanding…
      https://thethinkingblogger.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/ed1.jpg?w=470

      • Don Reed

        Center photo, he looks like the young Jerry Orbach (actor), only somehow unlikeable. At any rate, these are the photos that destroyed a political career.

      • Joe

        Nobody looks good when they’re eating- That’s why I put my face down right over the food and never look up until I’m done licking the plate….

        • Steve Skubinna

          … and use both hands to shovel and simultaneously mask my mouth.

  • Tiff #Voted3rdparty ✓

    And Oregon spent all that money on something that never even worked. What a freakin mess.

    • Daniel Freeman

      I was truly amazed that after all this time, with all those employees with all those expensive educations, they apparently still haven’t figured out how to write a good contract and manage a project responsibly so that a ruthless contractor can’t just milk it. They kept on throwing good money after bad until the public noticed and got mad, which makes me think if it weren’t for that, they might still be flushing money down the toilet.

      • Tiff #Voted3rdparty ✓

        All that money just wasted, I swear if somebody would just clean up fraud and government spending and force people like Al sharpton to pay their taxes we’d be much better off.

        • Daniel Freeman

          Unfortunately, I’ve discovered that a surprisingly large number of people are operating under the delusion that government money is free. Currency is an IOU that you can redeem with anyone, so debt is an IOU for an IOU, and our national debt is now over $13 trillion (not including some of the intergenerational obligations from social insurance programs).

          Here’s how they rationalize it to themselves: every dollar that they spend goes back to the public. Simple, right? Except that it had to come from someone and doesn’t go back to the same someone; and if they created it through issuing debt, then they can choose between either paying it back, or wasting money on interest payments. It would be different if they were making sound investments with clear payoffs, but if they don’t think it matters, they don’t even try.

          (The difference between a conservative Keynesian and a liberal one is that in a recession, the former would be willing to spend carefully on infrastructure that would facilitate future trade, and the latter would be willing to pay one man to dig a hole and another to fill it up because two “free” jobs.)

          At the national level, it’s especially pernicious, because (for example) our IOUs are different from Japanese IOUs. When we buy their cars, dollars get exchanged for yen. If those yen get exchanged back into dollars to buy Xboxes or whatever, then everybody wins; if they get exchanged back to buy US Treasuries, then they benefit at our expense.

          National debt facilitates trade imbalances. The central banks of other countries buy our bonds on purpose to make their exports cheaper here, and our exports more expensive there. Our increasing Federal debt is directly connected to the artificially strong dollar that helps the American consumer, but hurts the American worker (so I guess it’s great if you only fall in the former category).

          Sorry for going off like that. It just gets really frustrating sometimes.

          • OLLPOH ~ OurLifeLiberty

            We appreciate The Truth and we ALL need to hear, it. And you are right, there is a large, very large portion that don’t know, nor do they care to learn, where it comes from. What is more than gaul of it all it’s not taught, nor do people care to learn either. As hardly no one in the ‘left’ field, and quite a number on the right field, knows what you just explained. We have zapped a many a crybaby, with much the very same spiel, and add to it, and tell them to stare long and hard at the http://www.usdebtclock.org and check out the debt in their state only to have them come back and say, it’s the rich people’s fault. It’s extremely frustrating, and then you feel the need to grab ’em by the collar and ask them… ‘what have you invented?’, ‘what have you contributed to society?’, ‘where do you think the government stash that you live off of comes from?’, ‘what business have you created?’, and on and on. Thank you for your contribution! 😉

          • Daniel Freeman

            Man, I could go on, but my rant was already long enough without talking about how the Fed has blown their wad and has no ammo left for the next burst bubble, or going into details about how their policies facilitate the expansion of Big Finance and the private financial instruments that other countries also buy to prop down their currencies in relation to ours, or the unbreakable two-way tether between the petrodollar and our military spending. It’s depressing.

          • OLLPOH ~ OurLifeLiberty

            That’s okay, it’s not long winded to us what so ever, as education is long and hard, and is lifelong… Teaching is learning, Learning is teaching. You’re most appreciated!

            The Fed, the Treasury, Congress, the 0’s, all the waste, really does cause us to want to snatch out their hair. And just now, after reading a Washington Post Article (which gives us the creeps to have to do), as to how this TPP, is prolly intertwined into helping the 0bama’s after they leave office, to make money, much like the Clintons have, with Japan and others in the corrupt W.D.C.

            Hang in there and keep telling yourself, when you wake up each day to start the day, you’ve made a difference in someone else’s life, ‘ours’…Communication is all we have, and do all that you can while you can, and enjoy the day as best you can. 😉

          • Steve Skubinna

            Not only that, but the government can’t ever run out of money because they have the press to print more!

          • Daniel Freeman

            I hear your sarcasm, and that is one of the most frustrating fallacies. As you know, the more bills floating around, the less each one is worth, since the total is measured against what people are willing to do. The underlying reality doesn’t change!

            Many thanks to Zimbabwe for pushing it to the limit, and providing the eternal example of how you can end up with a currency worth less than the paper it’s printed on.

          • Steve Skubinna

            What, everybody forgot about Weimar Germany?

            The same people ignorant of the Weimar Republic’s economy are ignorant of Mugabe’s.

          • Daniel Freeman

            Dammit, I thought I was being clever by using a more recent example, but I’m afraid you’re right.

          • Steve Skubinna

            I alternate being obscure with being obtuse.

            Makes me look smarter than I am.

          • Petrucio14

            or something 😉

          • Tiff #Voted3rdparty ✓

            no no no, nothing to be sorry for, it is frustrating all the ‘free,’ money talk and your explanation was very helpful and clear. 😉

          • Petrucio14

            They’re playing chess, President Obama is confused over checkers.

        • Ferrari fan

          there should be a clause or something that if the contractor can’t deliver, they need to pay back the money they got for it.

          • Tiff #Voted3rdparty ✓

            That’s a good idea. It might make people be accountable.

    • Steve Skubinna

      Well, they did produce a terrific hippy-dippy ad that was like something out of Jack Webb…

      • Tiff #Voted3rdparty ✓

        well, that was nice of them…’-) *snort* hippy-dippy…;-)

  • Mr. Fever Head

    Unpossible!

    • Steve Skubinna

      Inconceivable!

      • MyrmidoNOT

        …as well as unanticipated and unexpected…

        Upside…’teh oone’ will know about it, tomorrow.

  • Don Reed

    No problem. That was the intended medical insurance for the 100,000 city, state, federal and extra-terrestrial employees of the future Obama Presidential Library, which has now been tabbed for somewhere else.

  • ArmchairMike

    Well that didn’t work huh?

  • http://IKnowBO.com/ Slam1263

    When you realized that Hawai’i’ only has a 1.5 million peeps, spending that much on a website seems really silly.

    • HawaiiTalks

      -_-

    • Ferrari fan

      it’s silly for even a whole country of 315 million…

  • Tiff #Voted3rdparty ✓

    OK this is bad news for the folks in Hawaii, but man I can’t wait to listen to Rush tomorrow.

  • tops116 ✓Quipper

    Gee, it’s almost as if there’s a pattern forming here.

  • Girl Who Talks With Her Eyes

    Isn’t that illegal? Obama better get his goons mobilized to enforce O-care in Hawaii! It’s the law, dammit! Doesn’t matter how much money is lost, you are required by law to carry on and pretend it’s working!

    • Tiff #Voted3rdparty ✓

      I wonder how he’ll feel when he learns about this on the news…

      • Girl Who Talks With Her Eyes

        Either his wingpeople will cut it out of the newspaper so he doesn’t have a fit, or he won’t really give a flying crap because Hawaii is his home in name only.

    • Bruce

      I wonder how things are going for Obamacare in the other “56” states…

  • Steve Skubinna

    Is Paul Krugman still waiting for his apology from the Republicans who predicted this when the ACA was illegally shoved down America’s throat?

  • djm1992✓𝒢𝑒𝓃𝒹𝑒𝓇 𝒢𝒾𝒻𝓉𝑒𝒹 ☭⁻ᴴ⁸ᴿ

    Another Obamacare debacle. And what will be the focus of the “Press?”

    Why, “The Democrats are ready to fix Obamacare, so why aren’t the Republicans?” Of course: http://t.co/pdiynBolko

    From the article:

    “Absolutely, I think there are some things [we’d be willing to change],” said Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), the leader of the Senate’s “Affordable Care Act Works” campaign. “I am just not confident that Republicans in this Congress are focused on anything other than repeal.”

    Sorry Senator Murphy. You didn’t listen to the Republicans’ warnings on this giant, festering piece of crap, and you jammed it down everyone’s throat, even though the majority of the public didn’t want it. You should have no say in repairing the giant, festering piece of crap that you passed out of congress as a ready-made disaster.

    Now you want to pass your “Affordable Care Act Works” campaign? Get bent. I much prefer what is known as the “Affordable Care Act Sucks” campaign: REPEAL

    • tops116 ✓Quipper

      Shorter Chris Murphy: “We have to fix the bill my party rammed through without even bothering to read.”

      • Tiff #Voted3rdparty ✓

        but but but O gave it a B+ and One Eye Reid called it a smashing success, would could possibly be broken…’-)

        • tops116 ✓Quipper

          Hey, that’s right. Obama did give it a B+. How dare Chris Murphy be a racist and disagree with Obama?

          😉

          • Tiff #Voted3rdparty ✓

            You’re right how dare he…lol.

      • djm1992✓𝒢𝑒𝓃𝒹𝑒𝓇 𝒢𝒾𝒻𝓉𝑒𝒹 ☭⁻ᴴ⁸ᴿ

        Stupider Chris Murphy: Why won’t the Republicans fix the bill the way my party wants to fix it!?! Why won’t the Republicans clean up my party’s mess the way we want them to clean it up?!?

        • journogal

          ^^^Bingo

        • Steve Skubinna

          “Because that’s the definition of bipartisanship, everyone doing what I tell them to do!”

    • Roberto

      It seems to me the majority of ppl DID want the ACA or they wouldn’t have voted for Obama (twice). That was his main campaign platform.

      The GOP only wants this Law to fail because they didnt move forward with it first. It’s a real shame that partisan politics is killing more ppl than it’s helping these days.

      When are “our” representatives going to follow through on what “we” want?

      The only bright side I could see of a total ACA failure is the opening of a real discussion of Medicare for All.

      • Corey Dennison

        Actually his main campaign platform was: “Don’t vote for the evil republican…dog on the roof…binders full of women…he’s gonna kill Big Bird!” And ACA didn’t rear it’s ugly head until AFTER he was elected the first time.

        I seem to recall him staying away from Obamacare.

        • Steve Skubinna

          Yeah, the admin was engaged in major damage control, trying to postpone the worst effects of the ACA until after the election.

          I still don’t know why, if it’s so great, all of Obama’s political allies get exemptions from the Act.

      • Malcolm Reynolds

        It seems to me the majority of ppl DID want the ACA or they wouldn’t have voted for Obama (twice).

        YUP, which is why Obama ran on the ACA his second go round.
        Oh wait, he didn’t and the sycophant press did an excellent job ensuring it was never mentioned.

        And that my friends, is why this clown is a democrat. Dumber than a bag of hammers and really fond of skittle sh!tt!ng unicorns.

        The GOP only wants this to fail because they didn’t move forward with it first.

        And luckily for the mouth breather left, all they’ve done to ensure it will fail is stand back and watch…. Interesting how that works huh.

        • Roberto

          All I see is sour grapes, and it’ll be more of the same when another Dem takes the White House in 2016. The same Law by the same architectures is doing wonderful in MA and it had to be tweaked a few times to start reaching it’s potential.

          Now that many ppl who never had health insurance realize the benefits, there’s no going back. They’ll fight, and vote, to keep it.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            All I see is sour grapes
            Yup. That’s all you’ll ever see as a good little democrat. Never mind that it’s a failure from the word go.

            The same Law by the same architectures is doing wonderful in MA
            Actually, according to the MA repub rep I heard talk about it, it’s bankrupting Mass. But as a good little democrat, that’s irrelevant.

            Now that many ppl who never had health insurance realize the benefits, there’s no going back. They’ll fight, and vote, to keep it
            Yup, The Free Shit Army is powerful. Stupid and gullible, but powerful. And that’s why democrats win elections.

          • Roberto

            Oh, you “heard”. Surely that means a lot. #Gossip

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Soooo, when “I heard” an interview with those Mass reps and a journalist, that’s somehow different than when “you read” whatever bull squeeze interview published by a journolist you’re trying to spout. Gotcha.

            Surely that means a lot. #SelfImposedIgnorance

          • Roberto

            Do you have a link to these interviews. I’d like to read them for myself.

          • Petrucio14

            How can you drive when you obviously fail to see what is crystal clear to everyone else?

          • Roberto

            Obviously not everyone.

      • Petrucio14

        Oh, I see it all now. Thanks for your in-depth analysis. The responsibility for this debacle isn’t the Democrats or Obama at all. We eagerly brought this steaming pile of excrement on ourselves with those evil Republicans being complicit! They manipulated the Democrats into voting for it when they hadn’t the slightest notion what was in it. We all really want Medicare! Thank you o wise one for elucidating!

      • Ferrari fan

        voter fraud does some amazing things.

      • Girl Who Talks With Her Eyes

        Some of us read what was in the ACA and were appalled at it, that’s why we’re against it. We could spot the cause and effect of raising the requirements for health insurance to above what most people’s health insurance currently covered-causing the cancellation of millions of existing policies. We could see the ridiculousness of having people pay a fine to the government (steeply escalating every year, btw) for not having insurance.
        “But people were dying in the streets before o-care due to not having insurance!” Not really, since it’s been illegal for quite some time to turn people away from medical care for not having insurance.

        • Roberto

          By the time most ppl make it to the emergency room for medical care, it costs 5-10 times as much as it would have costed thru a general practitioner and many of those ppl don’t pay the bill (which costs are then passed off as higher charges for everyone who IS paying).

          • Grumpy

            And Obamacare was supposed to reduce ER visits: it hasn’t.

            Although it’s a bit too soon to say it has increased ER usage there are several indicators pointing that way, and it definitely has not decreased.

          • Roberto

            Please send a link to where you “heard” this information.

          • Grumpy

            If you’re not knowledgeable about the topic under discussion, it’s better to shut up and listen than to display your ignorance. Sorry, I forget where I “heard” that.

            newsroom.acep.org

            usnews.com

          • Roberto

            We are all consistently learning about this topic just as lawmakers are still arguing over this topic. Who are you to tell someone to shut up? That’s just rude and uncalled for. I’m sure you’re grumpy because there’s a stick up your butt; don’t try to pass it to me.

          • Grumpy

            Well, Roberto, I felt that link to where you “heard” this information was rude, but I’m perfectly willing to go snark-free from here on if you are.

          • Roberto

            AND the link you sent me states that in the immediate future there ‘may’ be more ER visits because there are not enough primary care doctors (especially those that accept Medicaid) BUT in the long term “34 percent believe the ACA will have a positive impact on access to emergency care.”
            Many of the ppl who are against the ACA are looking at the short-term effects and not the long game. Comprehension.

          • Grumpy

            “Comprehension”?

            Can you “comprehend” that if 34% expect improvement then 66% do not?

            Are you honestly trying to sell that one in three expect some unknown degree of improvement at some unknown time in the future is GOOD?

    • ToyZebra

      You have more faith in them than me, Murphy. Republicans like to run on repealing obamacare, but I don’t think they actually want to do it.

    • Steve Skubinna

      Even the Dems are admitting the ACA is a sh!t sandwich, but now they’re telling us about the terrific multigrain artisan bread it’s made with.

  • tops116 ✓Quipper

    “Obviously, this is climate change’s fault. No, wait, Ted Cruz. No, wait, George Bush. No, it’s because you people didn’t support it. Clap harder dammit!”
    –The DNC

    • John

      Forgot the brothers’ , Koch

  • Comrade Hadenov

    Given the population of Hawaii in a recent census, that is $136.67 per person for nothing. As government boondoggles go, this may be an inexpensive one considering our debt per person is $53,378, according to an older 2012 figure in the Weekly Standard. I am sure the government employees responsible will not be fired but given raises and more money to repeat their incompetence.

    • Petrucio14

      So we shouldn’t be concerned about a colossal failure because it could have been a super-colossal failure? Please stand by … super-sizing … super sizing…

      • Comrade Hadenov

        The federal government budget has been a super sized, profligate waste of sheer buffoonery for the past 100 years. My point is we were fortunate this did not cost any more, not defending it. ACA will cost us trillions to fix a problem created by federal interference in fhe marketplace in the first place.

        • Grumpy

          Although we haven’t yet seen just how bad it’s going to get I’m sure you’re right that it could be worse.

          I just can’t help thinking of an impregnated rape victim being treated for the clap and told, “At least he didn’t have syphilis”

  • Moltar

    Oh, the irony.. in Barry’s birth state no less!

  • tops116 ✓Quipper

    Man, if Obama thinks this is worthy of a B+, I’d hate to see what a C looks like.

    • Daniel Freeman

      A C would be rated R.

    • Spider-Facepalm

      Could you imagine what Obama’s idea of an F would be like?

      Obama probably considers the Great Depression as a C- economic climate.

      • Daniel Freeman

        An F would give Roland Emmerich a chance to make an historical movie, if they would still have movies after TEOTWAWKI.

  • tops116 ✓Quipper

    *whistles* Oh, Determined! Here, boy. Here, boy. C’mon, take some time out from making excuses for rioting and arson in order to tell us how awesome Obamacare is. Go on, tell us how all those cancelled plans were junk, that paying more in premiums is affordable, that red states were wrong not to go in for the exchanges, and that the websites are working.

    Hurry up and maybe I’ll let you borrow some BBQ sauce for all that crow you have to eat.

  • RumDoooogie

    yay my native land is stupid…

  • Mary Mommy Happy 2016!

    More government money that Obama wasted and nothing to show for it except more debt.

    Obama good at wasting taxpayers money with negative results concerning his liberal policies.

  • Jim R

    Well, CLEARLY we just need another law and spend more money!

  • Zach Smith

    If this is success, I would hate to see failure.

    $205,000,000 to enroll only 37,000–most of whom probably already had insurance before Obamacare. Completely wasted money.

    • moodydon

      Yep… Pelosi and others have been telling us what a great success OC is…
      I sure hope somebody asks the Dems how they define success… should be good for a few laughs…

  • The_Kat ✓vilified

    Only a libprog could insist that a major clusterfuk that flushes millions of $$$$ down the toilet is a major success and should not be repealed

    Although I’m sure it made a few Democrat cronies very rich so I guess it wasn’t a total waste. /s

  • ChasStevenson

    Watch the Republicans “fix” Obamacare instead of eliminating it.

    • Suzyqpie

      The Donor Class of WS health care companies are making a fortune. The Republicans are hesitant to interfere with the Donor Class profit scheme that the Demos put in place. When government dictates that the citizenry purchase a product, those selling the product are the big beneficiaries.

  • Anthony

    Come on people, this is how wealth redistribution works. The Progressive’s love this kind of stuff.

    • Nowind

      The liberals hate big business and big insurance.

      That’s why liberals transferred billions of dollars of wealth to big businesses and big insurance.

  • Feebes

    Too bad nobody saw this coming.

  • Nowind

    Remember. Obama built this.

    • Joe

      LOL! You said it- Zing!

  • ElfPool Stormtrooper

    If Obama believes the ACA is working then this is what it’s meant to do. Destroy the insurance market and create universal healthcare. Gruber pretty much stated that and so far, it’s working. People are losing faith and instead of repeal, they want more Government “oil”

  • John Howard

    Indeed, Obama’s success in the solar power industry has translated directly into equal success in the healthcare industry. In both cases, the only problem was that the big government wasn’t big enough. I guess.

    • RepublicanDon

      Both are eclipsed by his prowess in Foreign Affairs and Geopolitics; Fiscal Management; and Race Relations.

      A renaissance man if ever there was one.

    • Suzyqpie

      “True engines of economic growth will always be companies like Solyndra,” said Pres 0bama.

  • John Howard

    Nobody can run a Ponzi scheme to its inevitable point of failure faster than the US Government.

  • Scot Chipping
  • Sanchez

    We should a read it before we passed it eh?

  • FramersForCruz

    If they can just go back in time and say hey wait a minute we don’t want to do this;

    can we do the same thing but in the opposite direction? Instead of reverting to the federal gov’t can we go back to a time when Hawaii wasn’t part of the US. I mean just cut them loose and pretend like they never were part of.

    Hey would that make obama ineligible to be POTUS?

  • ToyZebra

    $205 million in federal grants. I wonder how many back pockets and offshore bank accounts that went into.

    • Suzyqpie

      John Kerry, who served in Vietnam, stated that the U.S. Government has given $8.3B to foreign governments for “climate change.” I wondered if the check going to the country or if the Thug-in-Chief of whatever country has direct deposit to his Swiss acct. ditto TARP and the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Aka, Porklus,

    • DeplorableCats4all✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      Most of it, no doubt.

      From all I’ve heard from IT people, it is neither difficult nor expensive to set up a website and all that goes with it.

      • Petrucio14

        It is if you want to engage in cronyism to do so. This admin knows nothing else.

    • Spider-Facepalm

      I wonder how many terrorist groups got some of it?

  • Ironside

    Well, that’s about $300 million less than Solyndra. That should count as some sort of success, right?

    • Suzyqpie

      The George Kaiser Family Foundation started an on-paper-only holding company to take the tax loss carry forwards created by the bankruptcy of Solyndra. So the taxpayers got hosed twice on Solyndra. More perfectly legal financial tactics that the Political Class provides for the Donor Class.

  • Eva_Galley

    I wonder if Elizabeth Warren can recommend a good shaman?

  • saturnotaku

    Oversight? From this administration or the spineless dweebs in charge of Congress? HA!

  • dabhidh

    I’m glad my state didn’t bother to set up an exchange.

  • OLLPOH ~ OurLifeLiberty

    Does anyone know what the Senate Majority Leader is going to do about this, besides set up a date for a bourbon summit and a love note fest with 0webama?

    • Russ

      My understanding is Mitch is too busy at the moment having a sing-along with O to get that Pacific trade bill passed.

  • sharoninOhio

    But really, isn’t this what they want? If OBAMACARE stands(and with the douche twins Boehner & McConnell in charge) the Feds will just take it all on and we’ll be single payor in no time. One more nail in the nations’ coffin.

    • OLLPOH ~ OurLifeLiberty

      …and btw: single payer is what the V.A. is.

      • sharoninOhio

        Is that supposed to bode well for single payor? They could provide private insurance to vets and save money (and lives!) by getting rid of the VA and using the taxpayer $$ they squander paying the salaries of bureaucrats who are mismanaging it with horrible consequences.

        • OLLPOH ~ OurLifeLiberty

          You know the answer to that question, and you’ve hit the nail on the head, Sharon!

        • Petrucio14

          Only as long as private insurance still exists. Obamacare is designed to eliminate that escape route.

  • DeplorableCats4all✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    So the Exchange isn’t working out as ‘planned’?

    I’m shocked, I tell you. Shocked!

    How I hope the next President/Congress repeals this monstrosity!

  • RightnTexas4TedCruz

    Our tax dollars at work. Thanks a lot Barry.

  • Russ

    If I read the linked article correctly, the Feds forked over $205 million to Hawaii to set up its exchange, but has restricted/prevented the use of the so-far unspent $70 million that theoretically could have been used to connect the exchange to the Medicaid system. Yet, the Feds claim the reason the remaining $70 million is restricted from being used is because the exchange is not connected to Medicaid. If my take is correct, the whole thing was designed as a Catch-22, and destined to fail from the get-go.

    The only thing I find impressive about it is the speed with which the Fed achieved its objective in collapsing it after only about a year and a half.

    • Petrucio14

      It wasn’t supposed to collapse into a black-hole so quickly. There is still a chance, albeit a slim one, that this whole debacle could be reversed. That’s why the Democrats are pressuring Republicans to modify the most onerous provisions of Obamacare (yes, we haven’t seen the worst of it yet) before it hits the fan completely.

  • Uncle Joe Stalin

    What a joke. This debacle was just meant to “spread the wealth around”, healthcare for anybody was not a consideration.

  • tonethebone

    what a crock of s***.. They spent all the money knowing it wouldn’t work, and than they dropped it back to the state, after all the money was gone. Imagine that?

  • http://glennegallegos.wixsite.com/newbeginnings Red Texas Tea

    So it begins. Single payer system is on its way as states fail with their exchanges.

    • Petrucio14

      So crap that doesn’t work (Obamacare) will be replaced with a bigger pile of crap that doesn’t work (single-payer). Yup, just couldn’t let a (contrived) crisis go to waste.

  • Jimbo5300

    Your government, working for you! Aren’t you glad that your hard-earned tax dollars go towards boondoggles like this?

  • marcus tullius cicero

    …Your Tax $$$ down the toilet… Thanks Hussein…Aloha !

  • RaymondJelli

    It was the private health insurance that was dysfunctional. That is your government approved mantra. You will say it over and over and over. You believe…. you believe… you believe…Obama….Obama….Obama…..

    • Grumpy

      It works better as a three syllable chant:

      o-BA-ma!
      (clap, clap, stomp)

      o-BA-ma!
      (clap, clap, stomp)

  • spaceycakes

    it has never been about health care for anyone; it has always been about taking my money. They’ll now try a better way to get it.

  • John Galt

    I’ll bet those folks are luvin’ them some Obamacare right about now.

    I work in a medium sized hospital in Virginia. I read an article last week about how experts from the Obamacare camp were surprised that ER visits didn’t go down after Obamacare, but are going up instead. Anyone who works at a hospital with half a brain would’ve told you this would happen.

    Many people (MANY) who use the services of an emergency room do so not for lack of primary care financial coverage, but because these people are not in control of their lives or just don’t care to be proactive. They let their health go to hell, then when the condition becomes emergent, they hit the ER. You give them meds, instructions and the leave, sometimes after a long inpatient stay, and fail to follow instructions or fill their prescriptions.

    • Joe

      Experts from the Obama camp = Brain-dead progressives and doctrinaire academians.

  • Bob Richards

    They chose…poorly.

  • Dularr

    What I’m seeing is a few family members saying they lost all or part of their usual tax refunds. Saying the exchanges over estimated the subsidies and now must pay them back.

    • Grumpy

      Morons (the IRS, not your family). It would be easier and more effective to discount next year’s refund by the amount of overpayment than to bill and collect.

  • edshultzsux

    Hey, we’re getting off easy. Remember Solyndra et al?

  • Mark Kelly

    For 20 years a gecko has been able to sell you car insurance in 15 minutes or less. The gecko has thousands of potential policies to sift through to make you an offer. There are thousands of different cars that can be insured over the phone or online. …Now let’s look at obamacare. Two models for treatment purposes and a handful of potential plans. Years and hundreds of millions later, nothing works. Al Bundy and Jefferson D’Arcy could have done better with a fraction of the money. Where did the money go? Only the Shadow knows.

    • Petrucio14

      Lloyd Christmas and Harry Dunne could have done a better job and they work cheap.

  • NCRelite

    The left can’t figure out why we don’t trust the gov/can’t count on the government to get anything right.

    • spaceycakes

      the right can’t either

  • MyrmidoNOT

    Don’t know exactly ‘what’ should be the highest priority;
    but with the National Debt above $18,223,000,000,000
    (and rising)…suspect a ‘budget’ might be.

    Sadly…$205M is a small ‘blip’ on the real waste.

    • Mark Kelly

      That’s perfect. “We steal so much more in other areas that you should ignore the $200 million here.” …Senator Everett Dirkson once made this famous quote, “A million here, a million there and pretty soon you are talking about real money.” Less than 50 years later $200 million is just petty cash. No wonder that we spend over twice per capita of any other country yet have such poor results. Half of all health care dollars are wasted from the patient’s perspective.

      • MyrmidoNOT

        Sadly…that’s how it is portrayed…

        Reality bites…on this subject.
        Baltimore spends MORE per student,
        than most other schools (results are obvious).
        VA wastes money like crazy, but cannot provide
        COLA hikes…now months late.

        Accountability is nonexistent…and is MUCH
        harder to ‘control’…without a budget.
        Budget limits spending…and at this point in
        time..there appear to be ‘no limits’…

        (And I caught your sarc…just had to
        add a few ‘more expensive’ issues.)

  • Mark Kelly

    The real reasons for obamacare are to give free health care to Latino illegals and to establish the 30 hour work week. Watch this. Acme Industries has 1200 work hours to fill each week. They used to have 30 40 hour workers but thanks to obamacare they now need 40 workers to do the same number of work hours. Thanks to obamacare that company has increased their workforce by 1/3d. And that’s just one of the reasons that 20-25% of the potential workforce that is not working or underemployed becomes 5.4%.

    • MyrmidoNOT

      …suspect it is ‘far worse’ than that.
      When more than fifty people show up (to interview)…
      for a single open position…

      One local business has one FT employee;
      the rest of the staff is entirely PT.
      Worst part, wages are declining…
      due to so many applicants.

      And as always…obamaDON’Tcare.

  • http://truthbeforedishonor.wordpress.com John Hitchcock

    Every non-Hawai’ian American citizen — including toddlers — lost 64 cents on a failed Government program designed for only Hawai’ians? And every non-Oregonian American citizen — including toddlers — lost 90 cents on a failed Government program designed for only Oregonians? Unexpected!

  • TG

    Living in the Liberal Utopia is expensive.

    • MyrmidoNOT

      …dying ain’t cheap, either.

  • maggieinWY

    Now the builders of their system can freelance and become consultants for other states! Success!

  • The Dude

    $205 million
    went to who?

  • CVN65

    How is it even possible to spend $205 million to design a gateway website? Where did all of this money go? What was purchased, who was paid, what consultants were used, who may have had conflicts of interest or had relatives/contributors involved in the process? It’s a lot of money to spend on ether, especially something as elementary as a website for this, something that Gates likely could have done better, quicker and more cheaply. (But it would have been bundled with the latest Internet explorer irreversibly!)

    • Ferrari fan

      at least it would have worked… js…

    • douginsd

      Think about it this way, it took 16 years to get from Sabre being an AA only internal system (developed for $40 million in 1960 dollars) until it was offered to travel agents in 1976. It was 20 further years later in 1996, that Travelocity allowed you to book online as an individual.

      However, the authors of the ACA expected all the similar complexity to a travel website fronting multiple Global Distribution Systems (Sabre, Amadeus, Galileo, etc) to be developed in just a few years, and actually work, as a fully featured, flawless system? This was the height of folly.

      • Grumpy

        66 years from Kitty Hawk to Apollo, but the second moon landing didn’t take nearly that long, did it?

        The ACA programmers didn’t start form scratch and didn’t start with 1960’s technology. Unlike your example, everything they needed to do had been done before.

  • socalcon

    “…Connector can no longer operate in a manner that would cause it to incur additional debts or other obligations for which it is unable to pay…”
    Wow. Can’t operate efficiently= close down.
    Message for DC?

    • Grumpy

      We wish…

  • Oldav8r

    Hey, hey settle down people. It’s only tax money not real money.

    • Don P

      THANK YOU!! They keep forgetting if its tax money, its FREE

  • Swartzy

    Some of us saw the whole program as a total disaster and now more and more people are begining to see why we felt that way. It will implode at every level, and can’t survive no matter how much we put it, it will always need more. The sooner we vote to kill it the better it will be for the whole county. I hate Obamacare and the lack of care you get from it, for the total cost it demands. Horrible

  • James D

    Oops.

  • Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

    And just think, around 30% of the money spent building this and then transitioning to the federal system was borrowed, and will never be paid back. Our grandchildren will still be paying the interest on today’s health care spending long after we’re all dead.

  • Loves2laugh

    I feel badly for the people who bought into this (literally) and have counted on it. I never was a supporter, but there are real people hurt by this failure. Sad. Just sad.

  • dot1946

    Nevada had to dump their exchange and join up with the Feds after spending who knows how much money with the vendor that couldn’t make their exchange work. Unfortunately, Nevada also accepted the Medicaid expansion, which has now overloaded ERs and almost doubled the number of Medicaid recipients, creating queuing for everybody and exacerbating the doctor shortage since the Medicaid reimbursement stinks and many doctors won’t take Medicaid.

  • chwk2w

    …exactly as planned. Soon, you’ll all come crawling to the Washington cesspool for your daily sustenance.