Last October, a federal judge blocked part of Texas’ new abortion law that requires doctors performing abortions to have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital in case emergency inpatient treatment is needed. Today, the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled against Planned Parenthood and other clinics and upheld that requirement, as well as a mandate that abortion-inducing drugs be administered in line with FDA protocols.

Texas House Bill 2 also bans most abortions past 20 weeks.

Speaking of…

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Protesters resort to chains, fake blood, Twisted Sister as Texas Senate nears abortion vote

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Projection! Actress supporting late-term abortion calls Texas Republicans ‘demented lunatics’

Sick: Ana Marie Cox sheds tears of joy for late-term abortion in Texas

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Texas state Sen. Wendy Davis vows 13-hour filibuster to kill 20-week limit on abortion

 

 

 

 

  • Ghee!

    Wendy Davis hardest hit.

    • BoscoBolt

      She’s probably on ‘suicide watch’ – her whole world is collapsing.

      • CatHerder ✓fire! ✓fire!

        Why would anybody want to watch? After watching her wave that shotgun around, I’m surprised she’s still above ground.

    • Republicanvet

      Exactly what I was thinking.

    • Del

      Sad to say, but 5th Circuit just wrote the rest of Abortion Barbie’s campaign speeches. She’s quite happy with this boost.

      But so are the women and children who will be protected from shoddy abortionist. A woman died of “safe and legal” abortion in Cleveland this week…. Let the pro-aborts go and seek justice for her, if they care so much about the safety of women.

      • Ghee!

        The 3 women on the court that wrote the opinion make it harder for Wendy. Sure she will sound off against it, but now it becomes even more fringe for her to do so and further alienates her from the broader spectrum of voters.

  • http://www.freedomreconnection.com/ FreedomRecon

    I’m doing my “happy dance”! And i’m loving the war on women…all females made the ruling so now they are saying “internalized misogyny”. LOL

    • MNWoman

      Yep. I guess I am also to blame for the newly coined ‘internalized misogyny’.

      If opposing the needless murder of precious, innocent babies makes me a part of internalized misogyny, oh-well.

      • lukuj

        Count me in! I am part of the IM too! Are the female babies whose lives are saved part of the IM also?

    • CO2 Producer

      Why are you hating yourself?
      Ugh.
      Why are you hating yourself?
      Ugh.
      Why are you hating yourself?
      Ugh.
      Why are you…

      • http://www.freedomreconnection.com/ FreedomRecon

        Reminds me of when I was about to deliver my first child…all kinds of complications, good chance of me not surviving delivery. I told them if a choice had to be made between my life or the baby’s life, then save the baby. The nurse was mortified! She said, honey, you know you have the right to abort now. No one would blame you if you choose to live and let the baby die. We, the pro-choice people won that right. I told her I am practicing my right to choose. I’m choosing the life of my child over mine. She didn’t stay in my delivery room.

        • grais

          Did she leave of her own accord? I’d have had the insulting puke thrown out.

          • http://www.freedomreconnection.com/ FreedomRecon

            Oh I demanded she not be in the room or attend to me again at any point during my hospital stay.

          • Mary Mommy Happy 2016!

            I’m glad everything went fine and good for you and the baby.
            How rude of that woman to not respecting your wishes and wanting you to cause harm to your baby.

            I hope to never encounter somebody like that when I have my baby.

          • http://www.freedomreconnection.com/ FreedomRecon

            Thank you, and CONGRATS!

          • Mary Mommy Happy 2016!

            Thank you, I’m two months pregnant right now. :)
            My state made me proud today.

          • Happy Dragon

            Congratulations! Prayers for a safe delivery!

          • Mary Mommy Happy 2016!

            Thank you. :)

          • grais

            Good for you. And I trust that everything else worked out well, too.

          • http://www.freedomreconnection.com/ FreedomRecon

            All is well! I’m alive, she is too and is about to graduate college! Thanks!

          • H50 ✓RAT

            Well done Mommy!

          • Happy Dragon

            Fantastic! I wonder what that hack of a nurse would say if she could see her now!

        • Ned Nederlander

          Man, that wretched excuse of a baby killing dunce is lucky I wasn’t the husband that day.
          You’re awesome!

        • lukuj

          God bless you for your courage and willingness to sacrifice for your baby.

        • CHHR

          I cannot tell you the honor I feel.
          You remind me of my mother… I was born at just 5 months gestation… since I was so little, I couldn’t eat properly yet… that’s when they told her to let me die in the corner of the nursery.

          Obviously you now know her answer… and I am forever grateful! My only goal is to make sure my life proves to have been as purposed as her decision to let me live.

        • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

          That’s beautiful! Most mothers would put their child’s life ahead of their own life.
          Further proof that “choice” is not the objective of abortion.

    • CHHR

      I have to laugh… the point was to make abortions legal, accessible and safe. The legal part took place in ’73.. the accessible part has been any table cleared off for the 15 minutes needed… the safe part never quite made it to the scenario… we do demand safe be legislatively dealt with because they refused and they say we going back to those UNSAFE back room allies. How’d we get here?
      Oh yea, someone dared to tell an immature liberal idiot no…
      Yes, this is definitely a good day! :)

  • RememberSekhmet

    The women who will supposedly “die” without abortion can go to the hospital or to the big city. Let’s just forget that in 1972, eclampsia could kick in before the technology of the time could preserve the baby. But here in 2014, NICUs can help 23-week-olds to go home.

  • Kat

    I’m a little confused about how requiring safety standards is going to lead to instant death. Seems that NOT requiring safety standards would accomplish that more easily.

    • http://www.freedomreconnection.com/ FreedomRecon

      There you go, using your logic again. You know that confuses them.

    • RememberSekhmet

      These “womyn” had professors old enough to remember when eclampsia could occur before the NICU could keep the baby alive. Anybody of child-bearing age in those days ain’t of child-bearing age now.

    • grais

      ‘Legal, safe, and rare’ is so ’70s. Well, ‘safe and rare’ are, anyhow.

  • nc ✓s & balances

    Maybe these “people will die!” twits should think of other ways for young women to avoid unwanted pregnancies. Like being responsible with your body?

    • nickdqwk

      Grandma told my sister to hold an aspirin between her knees and never drop it, when she went on dates.

      • CatHerder ✓fire! ✓fire!

        Bet it was a bear trying to walk like that.

    • H50 ✓RAT

      Well now that free birth control is mandatory with Obamacare, there wont be any more need for abortions absent medical necessity right? Access was the cure to all evils. /

      • CHHR

        yea… until they find out their doctor, clinic, hospital AND all other forms of “access” aren’t accessible… heck, they’re not even part of the plan!

  • MNWoman

    I must applaud the good people at Twitchy for sorting trhough all the absurd pro-choicer Tweets so we don’t have to. As absurd as the Tweets they found are, I am quite sure there are even dumber Tweets out there.

    But this one really made me shake my head:

    Victorian Prude @VictorianPrudeFollow
    Re: 5C. We knew this day would come. It’s devastating and they’re morally illegitimate. Unjust laws will not be respected. #FightBackTx #HB2

    • nc ✓s & balances

      I think you have found a new definition for chutzpah. smh

      • MNWoman

        These idiots are really in their own little world. They make it sound like abortion is an emergency medicine type of situation.

        I just cannot wrap my head around their insanity. And they think their arguments make sense.

        Edit: I clarified my comment below in a new comment…I did not explain what I meant very clearly.

        • MNWoman

          I should clarify my comment.

          When I say tehy make abortion sound like emergency medicine type of situation, I mean the inititial decision to have an abortion. Now if htere are complications to the ‘routine procedure’ that require emergency care, this is what hte law supports.

          I am not explaining this very well, but basically I am saying if they didn’t make the choice to have an abortion, there woudln’t be any risk to the woman at all.

        • grais

          They seem to be saying that women will die if the doctor can admit them to a nearby hospital in a medical emergency, and if the drugs are administered according to FDA protocols.
          Absolutely batsh!! crazy.

          • MNWoman

            Yeah, and I keep thinking if you woudn’t have an abortion at all, this wouldn’t be an issue.

            Granted, there are some pregnancies that do have complications that are not caused by anything the mother did , but that is not the case with abortions.

    • nickdqwk

      Related tweets at the side of thread, show an overwhelming thumbs up for the decision. There are still a few though, that are fairly nasty.

    • Txgirlinnh

      So true. I just cannot wrap my mind around someone that claims killing unborn children is morally superior.

  • RememberSekhmet

    Any clinic that can take a baby out of the uterus should meet the same standards as one that can take a fibroid out of the uterus.

    • lukuj

      And those babies should be treated with respect- not used as fuel or tossed in the trash. It makes me Ill to think how their tiny, murdered bodies are disrespected.

  • http://www.nleomf.org/officers/ FlatFoot

    Keep your wholesale Baby Murdering off my Taxes, you morally bankrupt freaks.

  • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

    I can see it now…Wendy “Abortion Barbie” Davis ripping her hair out, like Eminem on Vanilla Ice #RoleModel #MusicTriviaTime And, KUDOS to the Fifth Circuit Court, who RESPECT LIFE! Jawamax 8<{D}

  • Roadster73

    TX law upheld, women and children hardest hit…oh, wait /sarc

  • grais

    A 3 judge panel of women who actually care about women’s well-being.
    Brava!

    • http://www.freedomreconnection.com/ FreedomRecon

      Such misogynists. //

  • MNWoman

    Jessica W. Luther @scATXFollow
    HB2 IS GOING TO KILL PEOPLE.

    No, it isn’t. Abortion kills people. While I am still angry abortion is legal at all, this will save women who would possibly visit an unsafe clinic with unqualified staff.

    • http://www.freedomreconnection.com/ FreedomRecon

      And wasn’t that the whole point of Roe v. Wade to begin with?

      • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

        That was the STATED point of Roe v Wade. Much like the STATED point of Obamacare is to provide healthcare for all, the real purpose of RvW was not the same as its stated purpose.
        It’s open to speculation, but it certainly seems like someone has a vested interest in keeping the abortions going. Maybe something to do with the tissue & organ “donations” from aborted babies, or it could really be that the proponents hate women and babies.

    • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

      That’s the one that caught my attention.

      No, Jessica Luther, Kermit Gosnell and Douglas Karpen KILL PEOPLE.

  • MNWoman

    wench with wrench @wenchwrenchFollow
    @AngryBlackLady @robinmarty Do they need a dead woman to prove ‘undue burden’? #HB2

    I did not read the entire ‘ruling’ but when I read this, all I thought was ‘remember, abortion is not necessary. It is an elective procedure’. So all of this ‘do they need a dead woman to prove undue burden’ stuff could be avoided altogether if they would simply choose not to murder their unborn babies.

    • grais

      They need to define ‘undue burden’ before they can prove it.
      What on earth can they think is burdensome about a Dr. being able to admit them to a hospital in an emergency? What is the burden to them in having the drugs administered properly?

      • Tyrconnell

        PP can’t perform these things in a rented storefront.

  • Mary Mommy Happy 2016!

    Abortion Barbie Wendy Davis election platform just went down in flames and exploded. What is she going to run on now?

    I bet Wendy and her staff are in a hysterical frenzy right now. lol

    • CatHerder ✓fire! ✓fire!

      Running on fumes, her fifteen minutes were up months ago.

  • MNWoman

    wench with wrench @wenchwrenchFollow
    @AngryBlackLady @robinmarty Do they need a dead woman to prove ‘undue burden’? #HB2

    Umm…actually, I think the point is without these laws in place, there is a greater risk for a woman to become a ‘dead woman’ since they could get their abortions in unsafe, low quality clinics.

    But hey, I guess the whole ‘safe, quality women’s healthcare’ thing is so misogynistic.

    • H50 ✓RAT

      You want dead women, I can give you those.
      Kermit Gosnell.

  • walterc

    I find it ironic that Roe V Wade was a Texas case also.

  • StateofFranklin

    “Unjust laws will not be respected”….

    Well, in that case….do I have a surprise for you lady.

    • http://www.freedomreconnection.com/ FreedomRecon

      Funny how, “it’s the law, deal with it” only works when it’s a law they agree with, huh?

  • thedumbblonde

    “Internalized misogyny”? LOL.

    • mrspinky85

      I guess now I hate my gender. Bet she won’t say that to a transgender person.

      • thedumbblonde

        Didn’t you get the memo? Gender isn’t binary. Except when it is.

        • mrspinky85

          I thought they found 50 genders until I realized they were repeating themselves.

          • thedumbblonde

            LOL.

      • http://www.freedomreconnection.com/ FreedomRecon

        Yes she will, as long as it’s a conservative transgender voter.

        • mrspinky85

          Oh, yea. Almost forgot all non democrats are fair game.

    • grais

      Liberal women can be so shrill…and so exhausting.

    • H50 ✓RAT

      Also known as self loathing. Identifying more with misogyny then feminism…..or something.

  • mrspinky85

    Yes, because safety is the same as repealing Roe v Wade O_o.

    • H50 ✓RAT

      Just like not having free birth control. :-/

  • MNWoman

    Alright abortion loving idiots.

    There are some women who have legitimate pregnancy complications and need emergency care that is often too far away to receive

    Your decision to have an abortion is pre-planned. If you have to make plans to travel farther to find a qualified doctor who can adaquately treat you should the abortion result in complications, I don’t see how that is putting any additional burden on you considering the pregnancy is not posing an immediate threat to your health.

    (**earlier in the thread, I tried making a comment that reflected my thoughts posted in this comment, but I didn’t explain myself very well…I hope this makes more sense)

    • GaryUSMCvet.

      It makes perfect sense to the logical and rational. However, you and your logic will never make sense to the “…abortion loving idiots.”

  • Conservative First

    Great news, but if you think this is over with libs, you’re wrong. With them, the only “settled laws” are the laws they agree with. They’ll keep picking at the laws whatever way they can to get their way.

  • Jack Deth

    Judges Jones, Elrod and Haynes will NOT be invited on any late night talk show or news segment, any time soon!

  • Johnny Right

    Thank you, God!

  • aeroguy48

    Abortion Barbie Davis most hurt. Her 11hr. filibuster in her pink shoes down the tubes.

  • H50 ✓RAT

    Good. Womens health and safety is protected.

    Onteresing rebuttal from the poo flingers who scream its the law when it comes to Obama. We will not obey!

    Also, TX streets being lined with the corpses of dead women and motherless children was a nice dramatic touch.

  • Spinmamma

    Awesome!!!!

  • mike_in_kosovo

    40 years after Roe v. Wade, pro-choice advocates fight to have access to back-alley abortion clinics.

    Truth is indeed stranger than fiction.

  • Zefal

    Don’t use the left’s spin. State the court upheld law protecting the unborn.

  • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    “If you place burdensome restrictions on doctors and women, you’re just harking back to the days of the back alley abortion, because, in the failure of the doctors to meet certain standards, women will have to seek abortions on the sly, and that will be dangerous. Better to have less restriction, so we will have no standards to check compliance with, to see whether in fact a doctor’s office and the doctor him/herself is or is not just as dangerous as the back alley, or less so or more so.”

    Hey, I never said their argument was supposed to make sense.

    • CHHR

      hmmm, sounds to me like a Gosnell conundrum in the making that everyone knew about but pretended it didn’t exist… that is until the family of a murdered woman spoke out!
      Yes, it’s time reason be brought back into the process. If we got to have them, the least they can do is make sure they’re as safe as they are legal. And accessibility does not mean at the hands of a hack with no respect for the life of either the mother or the baby they’re about to murder.

  • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

    If only all women in the US had access to affordable birth control so they didn’t HAVE to get pregnant and have an abortion. If only women were allowed to refuse to have sex if they don’t want to get pregnant. If only there was something cheap that men could use so they don’t get women pregnant. If only we weren’t animals in heat and could resist our urges based on not being able to care for a baby at the moment.
    If only.

    I’m glad only liberal women are that helpless. Some of us know how to take control of our “reproductive decisions” and don’t get pregnant without our own permission.

  • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

    If there are any liberals floating around out here, could you please tell us exactly how “..requiring doctors performing abortions to have admitting privileges
    at a nearby hospital in case emergency inpatient treatment” and “requiring that abortion-inducing drugs be administered in line with FDA protocols” will cause women and children to die?

    “Children will be motherless & parents childless”

    Such drama.
    Isn’t the point of abortion to increase the number of childless parents?

    • WhoDat

      What if the only hospital nearby is a religious hospital that doesn’t allow abortions and a doctor cannot get privileges?

      Making it harder for a woman to legally, easily, and safely obtain an abortion, she will take whatever means necessary to get it, even if it harms her.

      • RememberSekhmet

        “Making it harder” mostly means buying a tank of gas and driving to the nearest large city.

        • WhoDat

          If you have a car and large city isn’t hundreds of miles away.

          • RememberSekhmet

            This isn’t 1965 anymore. Most rural people who could not afford cars decamped to the cities in the 1970s. We hear all about Hurricane Katrina, and how people died because they couldn’t leave New Orleans. You don’t hear the same thing about Hurricane Rita, that hit a bit to the east of Katrina’s path. The rural Texans and Louisianans had easy access to cars, and got out of the path of the storm quite easily. Mostly because rural Texans have cars. I was staying in the Trans-Pecos on my trip to Carlsbad Caverns a couple weeks ago. There can be as many miles between small towns as there is between Austin and Waco, or even Austin and Dallas. You aren’t getting far without a car.

          • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

            Maybe Who Dat is referring to the people who have to trek across the border to get into Texas to avail themselves of an abortion procedure. Last time I checked the U.S. isn’t Mexico’s defacto medical clinic for any medical procedure, they are not our responsibility. The Mexicans can use their own facilities.

          • annoyinglittletwerp

            I live in a large Texas city-and our murder mill was one of the first to close. What a great day that was.

            It shouldn’t be easy for a woman to commit infanticide.

          • WhoDat

            Is it really any of your business if she chooses that? And do you plan to support her and her children?

          • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

            Yes killing another human being is everyone’s business.

            That’s why we have laws against killing human beings.

            Secondly we already do support single women and their children it’s called “Welfare” so what’s your point?

          • CHHR

            Wow, now that’s just plain stupid isn’t it?

          • annoyinglittletwerp

            The time to choose is BEFORE you get pregnant. After you get pregnant-it’s a little late. I only wanted one child-so I got a tubal. I STILL only have one child. He turns 20 next week. No infanticide needed.

          • WhoDat

            And if they didn’t choose before? Tough crap and deal with it, huh?

          • annoyinglittletwerp

            An unborn child is a life-not a choice.
            A woman shouldn’t get to ‘choose’ to commit murder.
            Btw: Prior to getting pregnant with my son-I was married thank you-I was pro-infanticide.

            I was wrong.

          • Big Meanie

            Exactly.
            Take responsibility for your actions.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            There’s an old saying: “Failure to plan on your part doesn’t constitute an emergency on my part.” or something to that effect.
            If you fail to plan and a pregnancy happens, it is a calculated risk of having sex. Suck it up and deal like an adult. Sacrificing the baby’s life because you forgot that sex can result in pregnancy is an act of craven cowardice.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            I will. Have you seen the waiting lists for adoption in this country? I can’t afford to adopt, but if an infant was left on my doorstep, I would love it as my own. Sadly, the government would probably take it and place it in their delightful foster system.

          • WhoDat

            And the lists wouldn’t have been that long if their mothers could have ended their pregnancies.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Focus:
            The lists are of people WAITING TO ADOPT, not waiting to give their babies up.
            And right now anyone can end their pregnancy with the blessing and monetary help of the government, so no-there’s not a glut of babies waiting to be adopted because they are being aborted before anyone gets the chance.

          • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

            Bus you have heard of greyhound?

          • WhoDat

            Greyhound doesn’t go everywhere.

          • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

            Now your are just sputtering.

          • CHHR

            more and more you sound like someone that really is advocating for the back room slaughter houses Roe v. Wade sought to end… how sad for you

          • WhoDat

            That’s exactly what I want to avoid.

          • CHHR

            so you DO advocate for safe clinics…no?

          • WhoDat

            Of course, as long as it doesn’t cause an undue burden in getting the procedure.

          • CHHR

            LOL well… three women sitting behind a bench in Texas just said that the law “on it’s face, does NOT produce an undue burden”… next

          • WhoDat

            We shall see.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Must have been evil white men in drag, eh, skippy?

          • WhoDat

            Nah, just women voting against other women.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Seriously. Trying to sell making abortion clinics safer and more equipped to deal with a medical emergency as “against women” is just stupid.
            I think that if a woman hemorrhages during an abortion the doctor should be held liable because had she just stayed home that day, no harm would have come to her.

          • WhoDat

            That’s it, right there.

            You don’t give a damn about women’s safety, you just wish all the abortion “murderers” got thrown in jail.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            You don’t give a damn about women’s safety, you just wish all the abortion “murderers” got thrown in jail.

            Wanting women to have a clean, safe place to do the procedure in is “don’t give a damn about women’s safety”?

            You have to be reminded to breathe, don’t you?

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Personally, I think that if you go into an abortion facility with the intention of having your unborn baby dismembered and vacuumed out, you assume a certain risk to yourself, but that doesn’t excuse the “doctor” from being responsible if a mother starts to hemorrhage and dies from blood loss.
            I mean, if you’re going to pretend to be a doctor, at least pretend to play by the rules of doctoring.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Perhaps the government should pay taxi fare for women who NEED to abort pregnancies. Or maybe the government should appoint someone to personally put the pill in their mouth each day at the right time and check to make sure they swallowed it all the way down. That might be the prevention they need, since women are sooooo helpless that if someone doesn’t intervene on their behalf, they will just keep getting knocked up. The abortion industry hates women.

            You know, if they just put it off a little longer, they can give birth, drop it off at a hospital and get on with their lives.

          • Tyrconnell

            Nah, it’s a “burden” on abortionists to have to maintain minimal standards.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Did you know that you can leave a newborn at any hospital in the states and there will be no questions asked?

          • GaryUSMCvet.

            Then promote birth control pills, condoms, and being responsible before sex. Rather than advocate for easier abortion access.

          • WhoDat

            I do, which is why I think pills and condoms should be free.

          • CHHR

            got a suggestion then… tell the guy who wants to dip his wick to buy them… walla free!

          • GaryUSMCvet.

            Okay, that’s a good start.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            If you can’t scrape together $5 bucks for condoms, you don’t have time to get laid-you should be looking for a job.

          • H50 ✓RAT

            You do know dont you that you must be driven by someone else to the clinic right? Sucking out your uterus lining and anything in it is a dangerous and physically traumatic event.

            They wont let you waltz in get an abortion and waltz out. Someone has to be in attendance with you in case you start hemorrhaging.

        • H50 ✓RAT

          Not if the facilities in question bring their clinics up to speed. The only reason an abortion clinic will close is if they put profits over womens safety.

          • CHHR

            oh no… did you just elude to the big “G” word? Uh oh… silly everyone knows only republicans and conservatives subscribe to that! (greed)

          • H50 ✓RAT

            Why yes, yes I did.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Funny how P.P. cares for women & abortion is only 3% of their business, yet if there are any regulations on their butchery, they pack their implements and leave town. Guess womens’ health isn’t that important to them after all.

      • CHHR

        straw man argument… planned parenthood already has programs in place to ensure transportation to that safe hospital that follows established FDA guidelines. Heck of a lot better than an ally way clinic with no real accessibility for an ambulance should one be required. Oh, and before you say what I know you’re dying to say… YES that really does exist. In fact one in Virginia was just closed down just because it wasn’t a safe facility. Several planned parenthood clinics in Texas were recently closed down for similar issues. Yea, that safe thing? It was never more than a hollow argument for attempting to continue a horror flic in real life.

        • WhoDat

          Sure, some are bad, they get shut down, but why the extra regulations on the already law abiding ones?

          • CHHR

            LOLOLOL you’re serious I know, but man you’re funny… easy for you to say when it’s not you getting a major procedure under less than optimum conditions… glad to see you care so much about the health and wellbeing of the women in your life.
            What a stupid question.

          • WhoDat

            If they’re less than optimal, why were so many passing inspections before these laws?

          • http://www.freedomreconnection.com/ FreedomRecon

            You just proved that you don’t know your facts. They didn’t have to pass medical inspections.

          • http://www.freedomreconnection.com/ FreedomRecon

            Passing medical inspections was the purpose of the bill.

          • WhoDat

            So, every clinic in Texas has operated since 1973 without any inspections or oversight? I find that hard to believe.

          • CHHR

            Yea, like Gosnell’s place passed inspections? Please, it’s because no one wanted to take on you blow hards that inspections were overlooked. By making this a legislative issue the “guidelines” are now laws and non-compliance punishable under the law.

          • WhoDat

            I wasn’t aware Gosnell worked in Texas.

            Clinics were closed down before these laws.

          • http://www.freedomreconnection.com/ FreedomRecon

            Did you miss the stories of the “Gosnell-like” places in Texas?

          • journogal

            Do you ever do any independent research on your own, or have any intellectual curiosity instead of saying, “well, I wasn’t aware of it.” Just because you aren’t aware or chose not to be aware doesn’t mean it didn’t or hasn’t happen. Thanks to a search on Google, you can read about Dr. Douglas Karpen in Houston Texas.
            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325786/Douglas-Karpen-Second-house-horrors-abortion-clinic-investigated-Texas.html

            http://news92fm.com/420857/420857/

            http://blog.chron.com/bigjolly/2013/05/will-houstons-version-of-kermit-gosnell-be-investigated-and-charged/

          • WhoDat

            Yeah, that stuff happens, it was already illegal.

            But, let’s put more regulations on the entire industry because of a few bad apples.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Yeah, so what if a handful of women were maimed or killed in the process because inspecting an abortion clinic is equivalent to criticizing a non-white president in liberalville.
            Collateral damage, right?

          • WhoDat

            The hell?

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Inspecting an abortion clinic may be considered taboo because it is too close to infringing on abortion in the minds of its defenders. That would explain how the likes of Gosnell manage to operate in unsanitary conditions even though they are supposed to be inspected and regulated to make sure they’re “safe”.

          • WhoDat

            Inspections don’t happen or they aren’t thorough enough sometimes. Sometimes there’s bribery involved. Punish them, don’t punish everyone else.

            People like Gosnell are anomalies, and I’d like for it to stay that way.

          • CHHR

            My friend, may we introduce you to a person that enjoys stirring the pot… there’s no real direction to the argument, just the talking points thrown out there to get the rest of us who are tired of the BS going.

          • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

            Yes we get your schtick you aren’t aware of whole lot.

          • GaryUSMCvet.

            “I wasn’t aware Gosnell worked in Texas.”

            For sure you missed the point CHHR made — was that intentional?

          • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

            We should re name Who Dat intentionally obtuse troll.

          • WhoDat

            We were talking about Texas law, and he/she brings up Gosnell.

          • CHHR

            LOL… it’s sort of fun watching someone twist themselves all around an intentionally missed point… poor thing… you’re not doing well tonight.

          • GaryUSMCvet.

            There was a point for the Gosnell mention — go back and re-read the dialogue.

          • CHHR

            oooohhhhh don’t do that, he may have to find out that the Texas decision actually joined both the 4th and 8th in affirming the law… oh no the reaction I see happening with that enlightenment.

          • GaryUSMCvet.

            Now that’s going to cause some liberal heads to explode.

          • CHHR

            yea, it already is… the Dems in Texas are apoplectic over the decision… the 26 pages in the decision is a point by point rebuttal dismissing EVERY point made in the lower court’s argument.

          • GaryUSMCvet.

            An all female panel of judges will cause there eyes to skirt blood first. That fact really pours salt in their ‘collective’ wound.

          • CHHR

            hehehe want some of my popcorn?

          • GaryUSMCvet.

            Is that with or without butter? Hahahaha!
            Your popcorn — then I’ll spring for the beverages.

          • CHHR

            easy… with butter, lots of it… and iced tea… I want to be completely clear headed as I laugh my ass off… I don’t want to miss a thing or risk forgetting.

          • GaryUSMCvet.

            Oh, I didn’t mean anything stronger than cranberry juice. However, I’ll have strawberry lemonade. Of course we can’t afford to miss the nuances of witnessing such a display of complete psychotic meltdown from the loony left.
            You crack me up! Hahahaha!

          • CHHR

            oh, forgot one other nice juicy tid bit… the lower court was made up of men… you just can’t make this stuff up!

          • H50 ✓RAT

            LOL, Misogynist bat rastards!

          • GaryUSMCvet.

            Now that was a real smack down from the top down. Oh the irony is killing me.

          • CHHR

            Well…. if you liked that one, you’re bound to fall out of your chair on this one….
            Have you heard the noise about telling Ginsburg she was old and needed to retire this past week…. no, seriously, they went there.
            Ever wonder why?
            Hi ho, hi ho, it’s off to SCOTUS we go!
            Oh yea, & Ginsburg herself said the decision in ’73 never imagined abortion beyond TWELVE weeks! hehehehe
            They want her gone before it goes so they can put one of their own up there… the woman is her own though… something tells me she won’t be retiring just yet… at least I certainly hope not.

          • GaryUSMCvet.

            Yeah I was aware of her sentiments regarding the ’73 decision. Was not aware the loons on the left were making her age an issue.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            You were talking about unsafe, unsanitary abortion facilities.
            Gosnell will always be relevant.

          • H50 ✓RAT

            The Gosnells of the abortion industry are a nation wide problem. Maryland and New Mexico are the worst, put there are many sprinkled in between.
            The common factor in all of them are lack of regulations and/or lack of enforcement of regulations.

          • H50 ✓RAT

            Because the regulations were substandard? Obviously the inspections caused the additional law.
            Edited to add, reading further in the thread, I see that the assertion was that they werent inspected. Id say additional regulations and safety regulations were long overdue if thats the case.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Were they?
            GOSNELL.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            GOSNELL.

          • WhoDat

            … Is a convicted murderer.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            And the rest of the abortion “doctors” are murderers roaming free.
            BTW-Gosnell’s clinic was legal, and went on for years and years without anyone turning him in for the crappy conditions. Is it possible that abortion clinics aren’t getting inspected as regularly or thoroughly as they should?

      • H50 ✓RAT

        Sorry, women just arent that stupid. We can think and we can drive. Safety comes first.
        Edited to add, hospitals of any type cannot refuse emergency treatment. Remember your Obamacare ER arguments now.

      • mike_in_kosovo

        What if the only hospital nearby is a religious hospital that doesn’t allow abortions and a doctor cannot get privileges?

        Provide us the list of those religious hospitals that won’t perform the procedure to save the life of the mother.

        Go ahead…we’ll wait.

        • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

          And, she wouldn’t be getting admitted for an abortion.
          She would be getting admitted for lifesaving treatment of injuries caused by a 3rd party trying to kill her baby.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            “Cluebat just a spoon in knife drawer of life” (apologies to Alex Karras/Mongo)

            IOW… he ain’t all that ‘sharp’, IYKWIMAITYD

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Very appropriate!
            “If brains was lard, couldn’t grease a pan”
            -paraphrased from Jed Clampett

            “Don’t bring a wet noodle to a gunfight”
            -Ms Eunice

      • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

        A religious hospital would have no issue with treating a woman who has been damaged by an abortion “doctor”. See, the religious hospitals are into SAVING LIVES, even lives that are threatened during the process of ending another life.
        Next.

  • Mango

    There is something really shocking about this and I think this is a good point at which to sit, pour a glass of wine, light some candles and just savor the fact that…wait for it…this is a decision that actually included a bit of sanity….let’s say it again…sanity.

  • WhoDat

    To the Supreme Court it goes!

    • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

      They don’t want SCOTUS to hear this they want abortion to stay the way it is they know that if it comes up SCOTUS could find against them. They would also have to prove a standing and show where someone “real person” has been harmed by regulating the abortion industry.

      I can hear the lefty argument now: My client was harmed because the state of Texas insisted her physician have admitting privileges at the local hospital to protect her life if she had any complication’s from her abortion procedure.

    • CHHR

      can’t wait… Ginsburg herself has said that the decision in ’73 never, never considered the horror of killing a viable baby… you’re right, it definitely needs to go back for an update on settle science as to when life begins and to update the laws of viability.
      Besides, post-birth abortion (code for infanticide) is the next step… just like in Belgium. Oh wait, I know. We’ll just follow the UK and use those murdered babies as heating fuel… how disgusting!

      • WhoDat

        I have no issues with the twenty weeks part, that’s more than enough time for an elective abortion.

        Heh, the slippery slope argument?

        • http://www.freedomreconnection.com/ FreedomRecon

          The slippery slope is long gone. Science has proven it’s a life long before 20 weeks. So much for that “right to life” thing, huh?

        • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

          By 20 weeks, if delivered AND GIVEN PROPER MEDICAL CARE, a baby can survive and be just fine. Coincidentally, there are lots of people waiting to adopt unwanted babies. See? They’re not really unwanted after all!
          And maybe more could be adopted if people would consider adoption instead of the expensive crapshoot that is in vitro. Of course, you have to be willing and able to love a child that doesn’t look just like you.

          19 week fetus:

  • des111168

    “HB2 IS GOING TO KILL PEOPLE.”
    Liberals like Jessica are doing a fine job of that already.

  • RememberSekhmet

    It is highly unlikely that back-alley, underground abortion procedures would be any reasonable amount cheaper than a tank of gas and an appointment in the big city.

    • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

      I read that maybe 3 clinics will close because they can’t meet the surgical standard for the abortion procedure. Even doctor’s that don’t perform abortions have out patient surgery options for their patients maybe the abortion doctor’s are just going to have to bring themselves up to code shell out some of their abortion profits for the safety of women.

      • CHHR

        if they can’t meet the standards, they should never have been performing a surgical procedure to begin with… end of story, period!

        • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

          Yep I don’t get the back alley abortion will kill women argument so will the abortion clinic that isn’t up to code. I don’t see the difference between the two both can kill the woman if they aren’t meeting standards of surgical practices.

          • CHHR

            the abortion clinic not meeting code IS a back alley abortion slaughter house by definition… amazing how we’ve now come full circle isn’t it? They wanted Roe v. Wade to make abortion legal, safe and accessible… until we sought to define safe and accessible, they’ve hidden under the guise of legal when in fact they weren’t

            had to edit… sorry

        • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

          If one of these twit’s tweeting above lost a loved one to a botched abortion at an unregulated abortion clinic – they all would be screaming why wasn’t that clinic inspected.

      • H50 ✓RAT

        Note the clinics will be closed because PP refuses to bring these clinics up to snuff. Profits over women’s health.
        Edited to add; that fact cannot be stressed enough.

        • CHHR

          uh oh… there you go again… adding fact to their feckless argument.

          • H50 ✓RAT

            I cant help my self, the imp in me makes me do it.

          • CHHR

            I know… me too…

        • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

          I really don’t understand that reasoning on their part. They have made up to a billion in performing abortions annually. Not counting their subsidies you would think they would just bring themselves up to code.

          Makes you wonder what condition those abortion clinics are in if it would take so much money and effort to bring them into compliance.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Couldn’t they use some of the $87 million in PROFITS they made according to their last annual report?

            http://issuu.com/actionfund/docs/ppfa_ar_2012_121812_vf/1
            Page 9

          • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

            Yep it seems like they don’t want to pay the overhead to keep operating. I guess women’s health that they are always preaching to us about comes with a cost prohibitive price tag/

          • H50 ✓RAT

            Yep

  • sam atk

    Shocked and horrified by the outcome of this ruling. This is awful. These restrictions should have been erased

    • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

      What restrictions?

    • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

      You would rather that women bleed to death waiting to get admitted to a hospital by an abortionist the hospital has never heard of? Having admitting privileges at a hospital would prevent that in the event of a hemorrhage, but you’d rather women bleed to death, of course.
      And administering abortion pills in accordance with FDA guidelines? SCANDALOUS! Wouldn’t want that to happen.
      You don’t hide your dislike of women very well.
      And you’re not alone, apparently.

  • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    I recall, when I lived in Miami many years ago, there was a story of a gynecologist who also did fertility treatments in the 1960’s before Roe– Florida had not legalized abortion before Roe, and this doctor was known to perform abortions on the hush-hush, but, as there were never any complaints, there were never any grounds to shut her down (which was just as well, since her services came in handy for many people in high places). Cutting it short, the doctor only performed abortions when she didn’t have an available couple looking for a child; what this meant in practical terms was that healthy white girls with no known genetic time-bombs in their family, impregnated by white boys, were talked into carrying to term, delivering in the GYN’s office, and the child given to an “adoptive” couple with the records faked to make it appear as if there never had been a “surrogacy.” In the rare event something happened to complicate the birth, the girl never knew anything identifying about the couple, the couple could head for the hills, and a hospital delivery and more standard surrender for adoption could be arranged. Other girls who didn’t fit the bill had their pregnancies ended, but since the doctor apparently knew what the hell she was doing, nothing untoward ever occurred there.

    Here was a case where “the back alley” as depicted never happened, and yet, an unconscionable fraud was allowed to take place. The GYN apparently retired before Roe would have allowed her to abort legally. My point, if I have any, is that THIS particular woman would not have had any problems if she practiced today under the Texas laws, because she would have met the specs. Make of this story what you will.

  • GaryUSMCvet.

    Typical knee-jerk reactions from those in favor of not slowing down the baby killing machine.

  • James Westfall

    Dems down here in Texas melting down over this.

    • CHHR

      they didn’t have far to go to “melt down”… their brains were already melted to liquid.

      • James Westfall

        True enough!

    • H50 ✓RAT

      Awwwww….sucks to be them.

  • WhoDat

    Criminals don’t follow laws. Creating more regulations will just burden the law-abiding.

    • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

      So you agree we should get rid of the EPA?

    • Tyrconnell

      In favor of repealing the helmet and seatbelt laws I see.

      • WhoDat

        Honestly? Yeah.

        It’s my business if I want to use those things.

        • mike_in_kosovo
          In favor of repealing the helmet and seatbelt laws I see

          Honestly? Yeah.

          It’s my business if I want to use those things.

          But forcing people to buy insurance coverage they don’t need is A-Ok.

    • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

      We don’t need the FDA inspecting and regulating our food supply we just need to butch up. It’s totally unnecessary because criminals will still eat whatever they want.

      • CHHR

        now that’s funny! ^5

      • WhoDat

        But, but, that’s a government agency and you people don’t like government.

        • CHHR

          LOL broad brush much?

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Toilet brush much.

        • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

          And I just stated we can get rid of it -so what’s your point?

    • H50 ✓RAT

      When did you join the TEA Party?

    • GaryUSMCvet.

      We’ve been trying to get the gun-grabbers on left to see that with regards to the 2A like, forever now.

    • mike_in_kosovo

      Criminals don’t follow laws. Creating more regulations will just burden the law-abiding.

      Just tagging this for the next time you mention more restrictions on the 2A.

      • WhoDat

        Hey, using your own words against you is fun. More regs on some stuff, none on others.

        • mike_in_kosovo

          Nice try….too bad everyone sees right through it.

          • tops116 ✓Quipper

            Considering he went on a tear about hypocrisy and deflection in the Cheney thread, you’d think WhoDat would’ve been more careful with his words… at least within a few hours.

    • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

      YAY! No more infringing on the 2nd amendment!
      Thanks, bro!

      • WhoDat

        Y’all are the party of less government, am I right? Where’s that mantra with this?

        • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

          Ya’ll hate murder and violence, don’tcha? Peace, love and kitten kisses?
          Unless it’s an unborn baby that was conceived at the wrong time or with the wrong person, right?

          • WhoDat

            Not mine nor the government’s decision to make.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            It certainly becomes the government’s business (or anyone with a conscience) if a woman gives birth to a baby, then chops it up and throws it out.
            Why the difference?
            Why don’t you think the helpless should be protected from murder?

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Which, of course, is why the gov’t submits *two* charges of murder when a pregnant woman is killed….because it’s none of their business.

          • http://www.freedomreconnection.com/ FreedomRecon

            Ha! Was just typing that!

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            I love that. It is one of the most beautiful ironies of current lawmaking. I wonder if they ask the dying woman if she wanted the baby before deciding if its life is worth a murder charge.

        • mike_in_kosovo

          Making the abortion clinics live up to the same standards as all the *other* day surgery clinics isn’t increasing gov’t, you microcephalic twit.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Big words confuse it.
            Cue it trying to cut & paste “microcephalic” into wikipedia.
            Hey Whodat-try googling Zippy the Pinhead.

          • WhoDat

            Keep telling yourself it’s about safety and not about the targeted attacks on abortion providers.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            That just doesn’t make sense. Even if you think abortion is all hunkey dorey, it is common sense to have the doctor have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital so that a patient doesn’t bleed to death while the doctor introduces himself to the er staff and fills out paperwork and tells the back story on why she’s bleeding in the first place.

            And if you have common sense, you know that any step toward making abortion a thing of the past (just like slavery-they weren’t humans either at the time) is worth the extra legislation and whatever hoops you have to jump through.

          • WhoDat

            He can take her to the ER all he wants, you don’t need admitting privs for that.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Like Gosnell?

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Oh, he doesn’t think Gosnell is a problem because:
            A. He wasn’t in Texas
            B. He’s a convicted murderer (although how that supports the case for not inspecting abortion clinics is anyone’s guess)
            C. He’s just not. Now stop using his name.
            Not surprising, is it?

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            You really think he’s going to drop his other patients to personally escort her to the e.r.? Admitting privileges streamline the process. Death is more likely if you have to bleed while explaining to the er staff that you were having an abortion done by a doctor they have no record of, who’s busy with other patients at the moment. Or there’s always the possibility that the mother is unconscious from blood loss and can’t answer questions.

            You have bought into the bullcrap that says that abortion is a minor procedure on a par with having a wart removed. IT IS NOT. Hemorrhaging is a distinct possibility because of the blood supply to the placenta being torn away.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Keep telling yourself it’s a targeted attack when the *SAME* regs are applicable to all *OTHER* day surgery providers.

        • tops116 ✓Quipper

          I seem to recall someone in the Cheney thread demanding that people stop deflecting and admit to being hypocrites. Hmm, I want you to get on that one, WhoDat, and find out who it was that said that.

          • WhoDat

            That is a different thread, only what is said in this thread is valid.

    • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

      But wait-abortion is LEGAL, so abortionists aren’t technically considered criminals.
      Do you recommend getting rid of regulations for sanitation and quality of care in regular hospitals, too? Or do you only want pregnant women subject to filthy conditions?

      • WhoDat

        I’m talking about the uninspected , illegal “doctors”.

        • mike_in_kosovo

          Like the ones the pro-aborts are fighting to be allowed access to, you mean?

        • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

          Well, those guys wouldn’t be covered by the new regulations anyway, because by definition they’re off the inspectors’ radar. So you get to keep your back alley butchers in spite of the new regs.
          Happy now?

          • WhoDat

            But let’s just screw over everyone else? Interesting.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            How is it screwing over to expect a “doctor” who practices abortion have admitting rights at a local hospital?

          • WhoDat

            If he can’t get it, he’s out of a job.

          • http://www.freedomreconnection.com/ FreedomRecon

            Just think of it as “relieved of job-lock” :)

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            If he can’t get his patient to a hospital in a timely fashion, she bleeds to death.
            And, as you all like to remind us, no one can stop him from doing abortions because there will always be women willing to risk their lives to end their babies’ lives.

          • WhoDat

            And how often does that happen?

          • http://www.freedomreconnection.com/ FreedomRecon

            “If it saves just 1 life”……

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            You tell me.
            How many abortions are due to incest & rape?
            What difference does any of that make?
            A life is a life. You apparently think women’s lives are more expendable, since you’d rather they bleed to death than have to burden their abortion “doctors” with extra qualifications.

          • WhoDat

            A woman could be in the best facility ever, and you’d still hate it because she is ending her pregnancy.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Damn right.
            Only a pregnancy ends in birth.
            An abortion kills a separate living human being with its own dna, blood type, fingerprints and all the requisite body parts.
            Enlightenment is a good thing:

          • WhoDat

            Most abortions are done way before then.

            Have fun taking care of all the unwanted children you made women have.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Abortionists like to do them around 5-6 weeks. Still well on their way developmentally and still their gestating child.
            Week 6-a heart begins to beat.

            Oh, and if only they would legalize birth control, there wouldn’t be all those extra babies with nowhere to go! Damn Republicans!

          • WhoDat

            And legislators want to pass personhood amendments, and have women investigated when they have miscarriages.

            It’s only a matter of time until it’s made illegal again.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Ah, more politics of fear from the Libs… quelle surprise

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            That’s not the case and you know it.
            A miscarriage happens spontaneously.
            That’s one of your more assinine attempts at logic.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Since you brought up miscarriage, isn’t it just crazy how even the pro-aborts say you should grieve for a miscarriage?
            So, you grieve for a miscarriage, but celebrate an abortion.
            Makes no sense.

          • WhoDat

            A miscarriage isn’t a choice.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Bingo!

          • mike_in_kosovo

            And legislators want to pass personhood amendments, and have women investigated when they have miscarriages.

            Re: personhood – I refer you directly back to the ‘double murder’ scenario.

            Re: investigating miscarriages…I’m sure you can back that statement up with bills currently in the legislative process that *explicitly* make those statements….right?

          • WhoDat
          • mike_in_kosovo

            Not “explicitly” but…

            A bill to provide death certificates for stillborn children is ‘investigating a miscarriage’? Quite the interesting version of reality you live in.

            As for the other, I refer you (again) to the *existing* double murder law.

            Guess that proves the lie in your “Again, selfishness. What’s wrong with helping the least among you?” comment, eh?

          • WhoDat

            That’s how it started out, then it was amended to require doctors to report all miscarriages to the state. Admittedly, an investigation is likely worst case scenario, but why does the state need that info?

            With that double murder law, at what point in the pregnancy could it be used?

          • mike_in_kosovo

            That’s how it started out

            Except it didn’t – the deletion is initial language regarding issuance of a death certificate in a stillbirth.

            Admittedly, an investigation is likely worst case scenario, but why does the state need that info?

            Are you *seriously* asking why the state would need information regarding a death? *SERIOUSLY*???

          • WhoDat

            Browse this:
            http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/03/24/3418085/kansas-miscarriage-reporting/

            For a miscarriage? More government and paperwork.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            More gov’t and paperwork

            Yes, because evidently *ONLY* deaths via miscarriage are recorded/reported in Kansas.

          • WhoDat

            They aren’t, but they want them to be included with the rest of the reasons.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            So your line about ‘more gov’t’ is, like usual, BS?

          • WhoDat

            Someone has to process all those extra millions of death information.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Someone has to process all those extra millions of death information.

            Other than the people who *already* process that info for all the other deaths, you mean?

            Oh, and provide stats to show the “millions” of miscarriage deaths per year in Kansas, tks.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            For the other participants in this discussion, It is attempting to be consistent in the assumption that it’s not a human being before it’s born, therefore a miscarriage is not a death.
            Right?

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Due to Obamacare regulations, aren’t doctors pretty much required to report everything down to your bra size & underwear color to the government?

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Don’t bother with the arguments about fetuses being single cells or zygotes. SCIENCE debunked that a looooong time ago.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            That same lame false argument, *again*?

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            Never gets tiring, right?
            Good luck MAKING any woman have a baby she doesn’t want. You’d be surprised how responsible men get when you tell them “I’m not getting pregnant by you. No condom-no action.”

          • myintx

            Just because they may not be able to feel pain doesn’t mean you should be able to kill a human being. A mother could give her newborn an sedative and kill it if she doesn’t want it. Is that OK in your book? The baby can’t feel it…. And, if she didn’t want it, it would go into the system – something else you apparently don’t want either.

          • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

            This might come in handy for you:
            http://kidshealth.org/teen/sexual_health/contraception/contraception_birth.html
            Or this:
            http://kidshealth.org/teen/sexual_health/guys/talk_about_condoms.html

            Oh, and modern women are allowed to refuse service to even the biggest alpha male if she doesn’t want to get pregnant. Stop acting like we’re helpless victims and you’re knuckle-dragging cavemen who can’t figure out where babies come from.

          • Guest

            Almost never and the coat hanger thing is the oldest lye of all.

    • tops116 ✓Quipper

      It’s amazing how you didn’t see how you opened yourself up to a 2nd Amendment fight with that comment. It really is.

      • WhoDat

        That was exactly the point I was making. Y’all use that all the time, figured it would apply here.

  • ISurvivedaBlueState

    Liberals are all too happy to over-regulate (and thus decrease access to) higher education, healthcare, cigarettes, jumbo sodas and tanning salons, among other matters both significant and silly. Why not abortion? Increasing regulations on abortion is merely doing what democrats do to all other areas of life…

    • CHHR

      Because it was never about abortion… it was about daring to tell them no… can’t do that, no, never! Why, it’s just so “un-American!” 😉

  • sam atk

    Just awful. These restrictions should have been erased

    • H50 ✓RAT

      So you keep posting, yet you dont answer the simple question, what regulations and why?
      Thats called spamming pal, and its a no-no.

  • neoface

    Ban guns, but let’s kill fetuses. I think that’s libtard’s mantra.

    • http://www.freedomreconnection.com/ FreedomRecon

      You forgot….it’s for the children.

  • Ms. Abigail van Beagle

    Just for the sake of info:

  • tops116 ✓Quipper

    Has Wendy Davis weighed in yet? If so, how many times has her opinion changed? 😉

  • Jeffrey Rogers

    Hey baby killing enthusiast……YOU MAD BRO?

  • © Sponge

    Admission to hospital privileges = a bad thing?

    Meet FDA Guidelines = A bad thing? But, Libs LOVE government regulations!!!

    So, what about the woman that died on the abortion table earlier this week? She’s OK to have died because the Dr. didn’t admit her to a possible life saving hospital because “MY VAGINA MY CHOICE!!!!” n stuff?

  • Eric

    Abbot, Cruz, this, good gun laws. So many reasons I wouldn’t mind moving to Texas. One big one that keeps me out: summer temps.

  • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

    YES!!!!

  • Fiji’s Best

    As surely as water will wet us, as surely as fire will burn, the lights of liberty are found in the pages you turn: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0094KY878