Don’t ask Planned Parenthood president Cecile Richards when life begins — if she knows, she’s not telling. It’s too irrelevant a question for her to bother answering, really. That’s what Fusion TV’s Jorge Ramos learned Thursday.

When asked when life begins, Cecile Richards, the President of Planned Parenthood Action Fund said, “It’s not something that I feel like is really part of this conversation…every woman needs to make their own decision.”

“Why would it be so controversial for you to say when you think life starts?” asked Jorge Ramos.

“I don’t know that it’s controversial. I don’t know that it’s really relevant to the conversation,” answered Richards.

If you have a question on anything else, don’t hesitate to ask for Richards’ expertise.

  • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    Liar. She KNOWS it’s controversial and that’s why she ducked the question. Anyone with guts and conviction has zero problem stating when they think life begins, regardless of where exactly they think that point is.

    • Lamontyoubigdummy

      Hello.

      You’re dead right.

      But you don’t wanna go all willy nilly, demanding “guts” and “conviction” on the intertubes.

      That’s how Michael Bay explosions happen.

      • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        Are you bipolar? Schizophrenic? 3 days ago you’re calling me a pussy and a coward & that I believe in magical unicorns.

        Now you’re agreeing with me.

        Get your meds checked.

        • Bathing Suit Area

          People can agree with someone on one issue and disagree on another you know.

          • ForTheRepublicOfDave

            Did I just…vote up your post? *shudders*

          • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Not even the point a little bit.

            I disagree with many people without ever resorting to name-calling and bullying.

            In fact, personally, if I did behave like that then a few days later turn around and end up on the same side as a person I’d attacked, I’d be embarrassed.

            Flip side, why I would ever want to admit to agreeing with someone I think is a pussy and a coward?

            This is actually a perfect example of why people should behave like civilized humans rather than base verbal savages.

          • leftwingthom

            You just described the baggers perfectly.

          • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            What are “the baggers”? Are they grocery store employees?

            Or are you calling people names?

          • AMERICAN Kafir™✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Yes, but didn’t you start out your post with ‘Liar’?

            Just sayin’.

          • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Absolutely.

            The woman is lying.

            Quite a bit of difference in intent here.

          • Jim Rasmussen

            Yeah, because all those “baggers” are all the same, right? I’d love to see you finish the following: “All black people are …”

    • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

      See my comment, above.. #KingOfTheHill Jawamax 8<{D}

    • Tim

      You give her too much credit. Death-worshiping cultists are simply not interested in an intellectual debate, and whatever the outcome of such a debate it will not stop their bloodlust.

      • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        Wait, what? Are you saying that Planned Parenthood is a “death-worshiping cult”?

    • Cymbaline

      She’s not lying; she’s being honest. It’s not relevant to her, because she doesn’t care whether what she’s killing is a human being or not. Killing a nascent human life in the womb is no more significant than clipping a toenail.

    • John Taznar

      Science answered the question of when life begins 150 years ago. Any biology textbook outlines the most basic principle : Life begets life.

      The egg cell is living, the sperm cell is living, the fertilized egg is living.

      There is no time during the reproduction of any living species when life springs from non-life.

      That’s the truth they don’t want to face.

  • sybilll

    She truly is a despicable human being.

    • John200

      Subhuman being.

      There are millions among us who think just as poorly. That explains much of what is going on in American public life and politics.

      • TheProudDuck

        No, she’s human, all right. A human being who has willfully chosen to put her intellect, such as it is, in the service of evil.

        If she weren’t human, she wouldn’t be accountable, and couldn’t be properly damned.

    • JJay278

      Yep, an Abortionists best argument for abortion is there own existence. It almost makes you wish it was legal when her mom was pregnant and her mom felt like her. But of course her mom had her and we are stuck living with her. *Sigh* such is life. If time travel is ever possible there will be a lot of couples staying up all night playing charades with a new acquaintance that won’t go home.

      • whitewolf9

        In my darker moments, I think exactly what you said. Then I remember these people are here to test our own principles so I let it go (but every now and then it still comes back (lol))

        • JJay278

          exactly lol :)

      • Al’s Annoyed Grandpa

        As Ronald Reagan said (or perhaps I’m paraphrasing): “I’ve noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.”

        Richards and her ilk are evil.

      • Bathing Suit Area

        You know that abortion existed and was available before it was legal, right? And that plenty of pro choice people have been born (and chosen to give birth) after its legality, right?

        • TheProudDuck

          Rape exists notwithstanding its being illegal. What’s your point? (I guarantee it isn’t as telling as you think it is.)

        • JJay278

          You do know you just made my point about Pro-Choicers being the most effect argument for abortion right? LMFAO Thanks for the assist.

        • https://twitter.com/davidjkramer DavidKramer

          Looks like the down vote button is no longer tallying votes, hmmm, I suppose that is good for you trolls. By the way, are you a paid troll? OFA or government? Sorry, difference without a clause.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            I’m pretty sure disqus still counts down votes, it just doesn’t display them. Doesn’t affect me, I don’t bother with them anyway.

            I’m not paid for this, are you? People here keep suggesting I could, but the only organisation that I’ve seen confirmation of having paid troll commenters is Fox news channel, and I don’t think I really line up with their talking points very well.

          • JJay278

            Oh then you need to read more. But of course I know that’s just your attempt at a burn. (bless your heart) Truth be told OFA has MANY trolls on their payroll. They pretty much admit it and are proud of it. I WISH conserves would start doing it. That would be GREAT! I’m sure a lot of libs like yourself would get pissed off like Abby Hoffman was when the gov. turned his tricks against him. Oh well

          • Al’s Annoyed Grandpa

            What evidence do you have that Fox News has trolls who are paid to comment on sites like this?

          • https://twitter.com/davidjkramer DavidKramer

            Faux news!
            SQUIRREL!

            Just for laughs, can you give me the evidence that Fox pays people to troll the internet………..this should be about as consistent as every other lefty making accusations…….runaway Sir Robin.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            Not quite irrefutable, but David Folkenflik interviewed a few former employees who reported that writing comments with positive spin under a number of online aliases was part of their work duties.

            Just seemed ironic after the number of commenters here who insist I must be getting paid by the Obamamonster or something. Made me wonder if there might be some projecting going on.

          • https://twitter.com/davidjkramer DavidKramer

            Still waiting for that proof that Fox pays trolls on the internet. Just another lefty spewing ignorance, ad homs, strawmen and other fallacies. Since you are not paid to troll here, are you a masochist? Getting humiliated continuously must be rewarding for you huh?

          • Mtr Mann

            If anyone can give us the info on getting paid by Fox News to post, please let us know where to sign up. I’m also eager to learn what happened to the check they owe me for watching their station since libbies must think that could be the only way they could be getting more viewers than MSNBC and CNN combined.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            They weren’t finding commenters and paying them, they were having their staffers write comments during work hours. So maybe just get a job with them and commenting will be part of your work duties.

        • https://twitter.com/davidjkramer DavidKramer

          Since I have given you ample time to find your “evidence”, I will just post this here video for you and others.

          The Tale of Sir Robin!

  • waltermitty2012

    That’s a common response from abortion supporters. How anyone can say that with a straight face is beyond me. But, the only thing Planned Parenthood cares about is if the check clears.

    • Cyborg3K

      Gotta keep that money machine going. This baby killer makes over $400K a year from just this, and its only one of her paychecks.

    • Arkuy The Great

      Never underestimate the awesome mind-control power of a cult; religious, political, celebrity, etc. makes no difference. The adherents can all spout the exact same incoherent nonsense and be perfectly serious. To them you are the one who doesn’t “get it”.

  • nc ✓s & balances

    If she answers the question her whole world falls apart.

    • Cymbaline

      Not really. Look at Peter Singer. I doubt her views are much different than his.

      • nc ✓s & balances

        Good point. These people have no consciences.

  • Maxx

    I suspect it’s quite relevant to the life you’re destroying.

    As to your doubt (or avoidance, if you will) on life’s timeline Cecile, there shouldn’t be any confusion as to when it begins because, wouldn’t ya know it…God created this amazing way of telling you.

  • Keith S.

    Liberals would have to have experienced “life” to understand when it exists. They have already screwed over “liberty” and “the pursuit of happiness”….. so they might as well go for the trifecta.

    • leftwingthom

      Are you living an unhappy, oppressed life because of liberal policies? Your side is the one denying gays’ rights to marry and telling women what to do with their bodies and telling drug users they can’t use for personal use. THAT’S freedom, and that’s what you guys (and the Dems too, to an extent) are forbidding. Liberals are guilty of nothing but keeping you from creating a Nazi America.

      • AMERICAN Kafir™✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        Please, just shut up now.

  • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    Unless you’re into infanticide, the safe answer, CiCi ol’ gal, is “the first breath.” Stillborns don’t breathe. But you don’t even want to take the easy way out, because you’ll then be asked about C-sections, and whether what’s being removed from the womb is “alive” enough to warrant its extraction even if the mother should unfortunately have passed on. Then you’d have to answer whether a preemie birth should be induced if it is the only way to relieve the kind of stress some women will have going into the ninth month which is deleterious both to mother and child, or would you rather “go Gosnell?”

    She can’t allow the subject to be discussed for fear of ceding any ground at all. And unless you’re as hidebound in your pro-choice position as she is, you realize how ridiculous she sounds. But her choir hears her preaching, and that’s good enough for her, apparently.

    • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      All of that is part of the reason why I just answer “at viability”.

      Though I think that I’d probably consider actual “life” beginning sooner than that dependent on a few things happening with the fetus.

      Anyway, viability is a very firm and definite line in the sand for me. Er, as in, no abortions after that point.

      • mark kelley

        I feel the same way as you do. “At viability” is the answer but not to the question “when does life begin”. Life begins…well you see, the sperm and the egg are both living cells so…life begins when the man and woman created the sperm and egg cells.

        The right question is, when do we take away the choice from the mother to terminate her pregnancy. I thought the current law was at 3 months, which seems about right to me. (shrug)

        • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          You make a great point, it really is the wrong question.

          And I also agree that abortion should end at the end of the 1st trimester.

          I also wonder how many liberals who think wanting to limit abortions is a “war on women” know the legal limit in European countries. It’s earlier than ours. Don’t liberals think France et.al. are just WONDERFUL and amazing? Are the French having a “war on women”? Just absurd.

          Handy site, BTW, in case you didn’t know of it:

          http://worldabortionlaws.com/map/

        • blockthiscnn

          It’s a mistake to classify sperm and eggs as life; in and of themselves, they are never going to be anything other than a sperm or egg. You do know we don’t reproduce asexually, right? It’s only once they combine that new, original DNA is created and “life” develops.

          • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

            There are those who believe all life began by some single cells bumping into each other in the swamp. If those people don’t consider an egg and sp3rm to be life, then they are inconsistent.

          • https://www.facebook.com/app_scoped_user_id/1307761147/ Don Meaker

            If sperm is life, then there is no moral guilt in ending life.

          • DB

            How is that inconsistent? Life begins during/after the reaction, not before. It wasn’t ‘cells’ that bumped together in the primordial soup.

          • blockthiscnn

            I’m just saying left alone, egg and sperm are cells destined to be shed from the body by natural process, just as the body sheds millions of skin cells. Combined, they become a new life. It’s a counter to when people try to sing “Every Sperm is Sacred”.

          • kentercat

            It is a mistake to classify liberals as life. They will never be anything other than liberals. They are only potential conservatives, and therefore potential life.

            If we found single celled life native to Mars, less complex than eggs, would that be life on mars?
            If you think that argument doesn’t resonate with the left, look at all the short-sighted women who cheered the line from Legally Blonde about “reckless abandonment”, not realizing the same could be said of their periods.
            The argument, as I’ve demonstrated by reducing it to absurd extremes, is not about cells of one body that are shed naturally. It’s about NEW life created from TWO sources. That no longer is “a woman’s body” like the egg – or if it is, it’s also the man’s body by nature though not location.

          • E Quilibrate

            You went where I was trying to go but lacked the proper
            articulation to get there, thank you.

          • TheProudDuck

            Emperor Tony Kennedy told us in Planned Parenthood v. Casey that “at the heart of liberty is the right to define one’s own concept of existence…of the mystery of human life.

            OK, then: I exercise that liberty to define the concept of human existence as excluding liberals.

          • blockthiscnn

            I generally agree with that, I’m just wanting to clarify the difference between a cell that is destined to be shed from the body and combined cells which will grow into a human being.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            Ummm, once the sperm and egg combine, all you’ve got is a fertilized egg. In and of itself, it’s never going to be anything but a fertilized egg.

          • DB

            Wrong. A fertilized egg divides and grows and becomes. It is not stagnant and unchanging. Sperm and eggs to not change and grow on their own, but combine them into a fertilized egg and they become something more complex each moment that they exist. All the potential of humanity exists in a zygote.

          • https://www.facebook.com/app_scoped_user_id/1307761147/ Don Meaker

            A fertilized egg grows in the environment that provides it’s nourishment. Absent that environment, it dies. So it is the environment that provides the potential for life, not the fertilized egg.

          • DB

            The earth provides the nourishment you require, absent that environment you would die. Your argument is invalid.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            So if I leave a fertilized egg out on a plate and come back in nine months it’ll be a baby?

            “All the potential of humanity exists in a zygote.”
            All the potential of a zygote exists in a sperm and egg…

          • DB

            The sperm and egg do not divide on their own, even in optimal conditions. Their potential is absent until combined. With the rare exception of Turners Syndrome.

          • DB

            Left on a plate for 9 months without proper environment and nutrition, it would survive as you would if you were removed from your proper environment and denied proper nutrition. Yes, both of you would die. Living things die without that which is necessary for life.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            Really? So if I leave a fertilized egg sitting out on a bench, in nine months it’ll be a baby?

          • blockthiscnn

            You insult your intelligence, sir.

          • https://www.facebook.com/app_scoped_user_id/1307761147/ Don Meaker

            Actually sperm and eggs do become something other than sperm and egg. The DNA after combination is not unique, rather the sum of that of Sperm and Egg.

          • blockthiscnn

            Well of course that’s true, I’m just saying if they never combine they will never be anything else. And yes, the DNA is unique in that no one else on earth shares the same exact DNA (minus identical twins, if I’m not mistaken). The DNA that results from a combined human sperm and egg is not destined to be a squirrel, horse, frog, Netflix, the 85 Bears, Kodachrome film, or existentialism. It has one purpose, and that is to eventually develop into a human being (barring complications).

          • mark kelley

            They are living cells. They are ALIVE. They may not be intelligent life But they are alive.

            For the record I believe in INDIVIDUAL freedom. From a purely legal standpoint, a woman should have complete control over her body. What is inside it is hers. not only is it hers it IS her.

            I am not “pro-abortion.” I am however, pro-liberty. No one else should be able to force a woman to do anything with her own body. What is inside her belongs to her and her alone. Why is this so hard to get behind?

            I think this decision is hers to live with for the rest of her life.

          • blockthiscnn

            It may just be semantics, but I thought the “life” being discussed was referring to human life and not going the “every sperm is sacred” route.

          • mark kelley

            Your right, semantics. If the question was “when does a human life begin”, it is a difficult question to answer.

            I think what makes a human life different or more sacred than any other life form is rational thought, feelings, ability to learn, self awareness, etc. When does that occur in a developing human? Not sure anyone can answer that question with any concrete proof.

          • blockthiscnn

            My grandfather slowly lost the ability to think rationally, have feelings, learn, and be aware of himself as Alzheimers destroyed his brain cells. He starved to death because he forgot how to swallow food. Yet his life was still sacred to our family. Family members have given years of their lives to care for him.

          • mark kelley

            Yes, and at that time your family became responsible for him completely. Something to think about. You weren’t forced by government to do what someone else thought you should do about your grandfather.

            How do you know that your grandfather wished to be taken care of like that? When my grandmother passed, she had said explicitly that she did not want to be on any sort of life support or be a burden to the family.

            The whole point is, these are decisions that should not be made by strangers. These are the types of decisions that only immediate family members should be allowed to make imho.

          • blockthiscnn

            Grandfathers and grandmothers have had a chance to make their wishes known. An unborn human has not had that chance.

        • https://www.facebook.com/app_scoped_user_id/1307761147/ Don Meaker

          I roll this way; ‘before you decide when life begins, you have to decide what life is. If life is “self sustaining activity” then most people that are retired, on welfare, children, or civil servants don’t qualify.

      • OingoBoingo

        viability ((of living things) capable of normal growth and development) that means that the moment of conception that live is viable.

        Kristine – the shear idiocy you display is amusing.

        Just because you add a qualifier to the “definition” of viability that means it is okay to murder a viable life doesn’t make it so. It just shows you use idiocy to make up a convenient excuse to murder another human being.

        • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          So go laugh somewhere else. Come back when you can have a conversation where you exchange ideas without insults.

          Or don’t. meh

          Though I did notice you didn’t make the same comment at Mark Kelley up there even though he thinks the EXACT same thing. That’s curious. So we’ll just say you hate women and go with that.

          *blocked*

          • OingoBoingo

            Your request for me to come back and exchange ideas on murdering others to make you sound like you are being reasonable is amusing, but really — it is simply fallacious reasoning on your part. There is nothing reasonable about discussing murder and how to support it.

            Me calling out your use of idiocy was not an insult, it was me accurately calling out your use of idiocy.

            As for your deflection to Mark Kelly and your use of a straw man argument claiming that I called out your idiocy because you are female, while amusing, shows you lack basic reasoning skills. Your gender has no bearing on my calling out your idiocy and support of murdering and deflecting to others doesn’t change that you posted an idiotic statement on a public forum that I am addressing. This is your thread on a public forum, I am addressing you.

          • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Okee dokee pokey, thanks for sharing. Whatever warms your trolling little heart. 😀

          • OingoBoingo

            Yes, I can see how you see me replying directly to your statements and addressing the flawed logic you used is what you consider trolling. If I were to deny reality like you, and support murder, then I wouldn’t be trolling in your mind.

            Whatever feeds you ego–keep using fallacies to make yourself a winner in your mind. Thanks for sharing your fallacious arguments, they are amusing and entertaining.

      • TomJB

        Then how would you define viability? In the strictest definition of the word my 3 year old still isn’t viable as she needs a pump to feed. Sure she can breathe on her own but she is as completely dependent outside the womb as she was inside to survive.

        • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          For the purpose of this issue, I’m not going to nitpick.

          I’ll stick with the 24-weeks that science has gotten us to where a baby can survive outside the womb with, hopefully, the least amount of catastrophic defects.

          As science progresses that limit will decrease. Er, increase? Make it 20 weeks or 16 weeks, eventually. I presume. I think that made sense. 😀

          But like I said somewhere around here, my legal limit is end of 1st trimester. 12 weeks. That’s as far as my compromise goes with the law, stuck as we are between two warring sides.

          Most of Europe is 12 or 14 weeks. We seem to be the only country going on and on about this ridiculous “War on Women” crap and it being a “woman’s body, woman’s choice”. I find all that stuff just absurd.

          • QueenB

            Yep – 12 weeks. That’s my cut off.

          • Bill Phillips

            SO …just for the record …here’s what you are murdering at 12 weeks:

          • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            And calling people murderers is exactly why people like you will never win anyone to your side.

            Alienating people you should be swaying for support.

            Yeah, yeah. You don’t care. Just a bunch of murderers after all.

            Intentionally inflammatory language AND using the word “murder” incorrectly by definition. Kudos.

          • Bill Phillips

            I don’t pretend that I can “win anyone to” my side when they are so far depraved as to “murder” an INNOCENT human life and justify that murder with the argument that ONLY she gets to decide whether that innocent life if worthy of life or death!

          • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
          • https://www.facebook.com/app_scoped_user_id/1307761147/ Don Meaker

            I don’t intend to win murderers to my side. It would be nice to prevent a few murders.

          • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Then let me introduce you to reality.

            Keep calling the women who have abortions “murderers” then you are actually not going to prevent any “murders”.

            See, you are attacking the women who are going to get abortions. Bullying and verbal assault will make them MORE apt to get the procedure, not less.

            Never heard the adage about honey and vinegar I’m presuming.

            Go call these women “murderers”

            http://www.silentnomoreawareness.org/

            Or this woman

            http://www.lifenews.com/2013/08/12/i-deeply-regret-my-abortions-and-will-be-a-voice-for-my-babies-now/

          • Ryan Johnson

            “And calling people murderers is exactly why people like you will never win anyone to your side.”

            I believe in calling a spade a spade, not sugarcoating the reality to “win” people over.

          • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Okay.

            Then get a dictionary, learn what “murder” actually means and requires, then have a calm chat with women who have had abortions.

            Then you will have an INFORMED opinion about whether or not a woman who has had an abortion is a “murderer”.

            Go call these women “murderers”. I dare you.

            http://www.silentnomoreawareness.org/

            Or this woman

            http://www.lifenews.com/2013/08/12/i-deeply-regret-my-abortions-and-will-be-a-voice-for-my-babies-now/

          • Ryan Johnson

            They did still murder a child, but they actually feel remorse for what they’ve done so my attitudes towards them are not the same as they are towards the women amongst Jezebel-like crowds that feel no remorse and are actually joyful about it. Murder is murder.

          • Ryan Johnson

            which site does that come from?

          • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            I figure in the current climate we live in, that’s about as fair a compromise anyone can reasonably get.

          • Bill Phillips

            Why stop at 12 weeks …is it “fair” that these poor women have to carry an unwanted “thing” …whoops, I mean “fetus” …for a whole 3 months? How “fair” is it to that terrible “thing” …whoops, I mean parasitic lump of cells …that attached itself to her …completely against that poor woman’s wishes? < < < EXTREME SARCASM

          • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            I suppose you’ll have to go direct that at someone who believes a zygote/embryo/fetus is a “thing” and yammers on about “parasitic lump of cells” if you want an answer.

          • Bill Phillips

            So …84 days is a perfectly acceptable time frame to murder an INNOCENT life …but on day 85 …it’s not eh? How utterly “reasonable” of you to grant yourself such a moral high ground!

          • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
      • Bj VanHooser

        If death occurs when the heartbeat stops, why doesn’t it begin when heartbeat starts. “Viability” is subjective. Some preemies born at 20 weeks have survived. Others perish when born at 39 weeks.

  • Clorinda

    Well, if it is up to the mother to decide, how far into the future of her child can she decide? First breath? First birthday? What if the mom decides after the child has been particularly bratty that the child was cramping her style and preventing her from really succeeding?

    • lisanemo

      I remember reading something about how in England you have up to five years after the birth of a child to kill all your children and claim you did it because of being super depressed, gosh what is that called now? I don’t know if that still applies because one mother did do that and got off Scott free. Post partum depression?

      • carmenta

        Not true. PPD may be considered as a mitigating factor, but it isn’t a defense.

      • Bathing Suit Area

        Nope, you’re just making up bullshit here.

    • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
    • Cullysmom

      There are those on the abortion side who now propose it’s ok to kill at birth and up to age 5…kindergartener…even healthy ones Heinous

      • ButteryWench

        Hey, it worked for Casey Anthony!! You know, cramped are and stuff

        • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

          Speaking of “The Devil,” I know where she’s hiding (in plain sight)… But I ain’t sayin’… Jawamax 8<{D}

        • Bathing Suit Area

          So you think there were heaps of liberals all cheering on Casey Anthony?

    • maia

      Years ago I read a book called “Unwind”, by Neal Shusterman. The auther has followed after the current trend and made the initial book (which I think is great as a stand alone) into a series – a series that basically predicts exactly how parents can deal with their unwanted children once they are alive and how the market/government will turn their deaths into a necessary industry via organ donation so that the child killing continues. (In the book, parents can have their child unwound, or retroactively aborted, from ages 13-18.) It’s really quite fascinating, especially since the auther includes excerpts from real news and research articles through out the series.

      • Librarian

        I found the book in my public library system. I’m going to read it. Thanks so much for posting!

  • Hey, That’s Pretty Good

    We all know that pro-abortion zealots think life doesn’t begin until you are born. Which ignores the fact that babies have heartbeats as early as 10-12 weeks after conception. But if they get that post-birth abortion, pro-abortion zealots will probably decide you aren’t alive until your parents can draw a welfare check on you.

    • WhoDat

      The heartbeat can be heard, in most cases, about 7 weeks.

  • Hey, That’s Pretty Good

    The question of when life begins is absolutely relevant to the conversation. Because the left wants to claim what they are killing is not alive, but they want the conversation about when life truly begins silenced because they are terrified that they might have to accept life begins before birth. To me, life begins when there is a heartbeat. My first comment on this thread mentions how long after conception until that happens.

    • Richard Jefferies

      If you read the Journal of Medical Ethics article, they spend a lot of words trying to justify that ‘abortion’ is perfectly acceptable after birth as well.

      EDIT: NM you talk about it in another post.

  • Amanda Davis

    I don’t get it. It’s biology. The instant the sperm fertilizes the egg, there is a complete, unique genetic code, DNA that has never existed, will never exist again, and barring complications will grow until it is full term. So life begins at fertilization. Call some of us “science denier’s” for questioning man-made climate change, or believing that intelligent design is possible….yet act as though the concept of pregnancy and “when does life begin?” is too deep and mystical a question to answer.

    TL;DR – Life begins at conception, but to pro-aborts, that life does not matter unless the mother says it does.

    • mark kelley

      actually, the sperm and egg are living cells, life has already begun before conception 😛

      • Jessica

        I think she means human life.

        • Amanda Davis

          Lol, Yup. Maybe I’m just better at communicating with women?

      • Amanda Davis

        Gotta love a smart-a$$. I should have said, “A person’s life begins at fertilization” :~)

        • Bathing Suit Area

          Why do you consider fertilisation to be the magic point? Right before they join, the sperm and egg contain all of the DNA that will exist in zygote. Why do you think it’s ok to interfere in the process at that point but not after?

          • QueenB

            Because separately, even though the DNA is there, if kept separate the true life is not there. Once the fertilization happens, it is.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            So if I have an egg and a sperm in separate Petri dishes, there’s no life, if I put them together in one there’s a “true” life which can exist on its own?

          • maia

            A better word would be “human” life, not “true” life. Seperately, neither of those items amount to a human life. Together, they will form nothing else BUT a human, therefore together they are a human life.

          • Wart

            “A person’s life begins at fertilization” So sorry your memory sucks.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            I do remember you guys saying that, what I’m trying to follow is why you think that.

          • Wart

            You do know about DNA right?

          • Bathing Suit Area

            Yes, the DNA of the sperm and egg which together adds up to the DNA of the zygote.

          • Wart

            You also know that once the DNA mixes then it will be unique human DNA.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            It’s the same DNA that existed separately in the sperm and egg the instant before they met.

          • Wart

            Before they meet they aren’t complete human DNA. Do you think you can admit that?

          • Bathing Suit Area

            There’s a complete set of human DNA, just not all in the one cell.

          • Wart

            I’m going to copy SWG comment as it breaks down what life is in simple terms for kids like you.

            “1.Cellular organization means that everything living consists of at least one cell.
            2.
            Ordered complexity means that organisms have several layers of
            complexity (organs are made of tissues, tissues made of cells, cells
            made of organelles, organelles made of molecules, etc.).
            3. Sensitivity means that it responds to stimuli.
            4. Growth, development, reproduction are self-explanatory.
            5. Metabolism/energy utilization are self-explanatory.
            6.
            Homeostasis means that it maintains its internal environment
            (temperature, pH, solute concentration) such that it may differ from its
            surroundings.
            7. Adaption/interaction means that it interacts with
            other organisms and the abiotic environment in ways that influence its
            survival.
            A sperm or egg cell lacks No. 4 at least. A fertilized egg
            cell (better known as a zygote) does have all 7. Once the zygote
            completes in first division and grows into 2 cells, it is now an embryo.
            It still has all 7.
            A single-celled amoeba has all 7. A
            single-celled algae has all 7. A bacteria cell has all 7. A roundworm
            has all 7. An alligator has all 7. A fertilized chicken egg has all 7.
            Clearly there a thousands of single-celled organisms that we consider
            to be alive. We consider the immature stages of plants and animals and
            fungi for that matter to be alive. Acorn is alive. It clearly is
            nothing more than an immature oak tree, it might be dormant, but it
            still has all of those 7 characters. If an amoeba is alive, or some
            other single-celled protist is alive, then the status of a single-celled
            human zygote must be rather obvious.
            A virus does not have all 7.
            Viruses do not consume food (metabolize), they don’t grow, and they
            don’t reproduce on their own (they have to take over an actual living
            cell to reproduce), and it is not a cell (a cell is defined as having a
            cell membrane – viruses do not).
            So, simply, The Science Is Settled.
            A fertilized egg cell (human or whatever) is alive. There is no
            difference in the degree to which you are “human” at the time of
            conception, or 2 months or 24 weeks later.
            Notice, I have said
            absolutely nothing about having a soul or if such exists, that is where
            religion comes in and I’m not going to say boo about any of that. I am
            simply presenting the science on the definition life. So you can’t call
            me a religious nut because I said nothing of the sort. I am simply
            using science to define life. Period.”

            Once again SWG wrote the above.

          • Wart

            Sperm won’t turn into a baby by itself. An egg won’t turn into a baby by itself. When they mix, then it becomes a baby. So sorry to hear how hard it is for you to understand this.

    • Bill Phillips

      Well done! I agree 100%

    • Bathing Suit Area

      At conception, ask that exists is a fertilized egg, no more magical then the separate sperm and egg that existed an instant before.

      That fertilized egg isn’t going to grow into a baby unless a woman carries out in her womb and supplies it with energy and nutrients from her body. You seem to think it’s ok to force her to do so, no matter what she thinks or wants to do with her own body.

      • Bill Phillips

        Once that woman engaged in sex with a man, she knew full well that the end result could produce a life! Unless she was raped …NOONE forced her into that decision! There are consequences to actions! But then …we all know personal responsibility is NOT something a liberal has any understanding of!

        • AMERICAN Kafir™✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          DING DING!!!! WINNER!

          Been saying this for years…. women can always keep their legs closed… and maybe have a little self-respect.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            Ah yes, the old insistence that self respect and sex are somehow mutually exclusive. Very healthy worldview.

      • Amanda Davis

        I am a feminist and believe in a woman’s absolute bodily autonomy. She should be able to choose if/when/how and with whom she wishes to have sex with. She should be able to choose what type of birth control to use, or choose not to use any. Once her choice creates another human life, no, I do not believe she should be able to terminate that life.

        As to your fertilized egg question: after the egg is fertilized it WILL grow and mature and finally, 40 weeks later, leave it’s mothers body. To prevent that, you have to medically intervene and end that life, destroying that unique DNA forever. You have every right to your own opinion, but it is intellectually dishonest to pretend there is no difference between a sperm/egg and a fertilized one. And no need to talk down to me, I don’t think it’s “magical”, it’s simple biology.

        • Bathing Suit Area

          A sperm, in proximity to an egg, WILL fertilize it. To prevent that you have to intervene. Why do you feel it’s ok to intervene at that point, but not one microsecond later?

          • Amanda Davis

            Seriously? I really do try to have honest, polite discussions about stuff, even with people that are generally written off as trolls, but I can’t help but feel you are purposefully trying to be dense. IF the sperm successfully penetrates and fertilizes an egg, THEN you have the complete genetic recipe that makes a human being. If it does not (which is the vast majority of the time, remember, we’re talking millions of sperm attempting to penetrate one egg) then you have two ingredients that are never combined to make the finished project.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            The complete genetic recipe in the fertilized egg doesn’t contain any information that wasn’t in the sperm and egg before they met.

            If an egg without a sperm is just a lone ingredient that can’t become a person on its own, why isn’t a fertilized egg, without a woman to carry and gestate it also just an ingredient?

          • Amanda Davis

            If a comatose person is on life support for nine months, is their life of no value until they wake up and are off of life support? They aren’t cognizant, they aren’t viable apart from the machines that keep their hearts beating or keep them from starving. There is no clear place (in my opinion) to draw a line after conception. And the majority of pregnancies occur after consensual sex… As a woman I take responsibility for participating in an action that may result in conceiving a child. (Only about 2% of all abortions are performed due to rape or incest according to the Guttmacher Institute)

          • Bathing Suit Area

            If a comatose person needs nine months of life support and no machine is available, would you be comfortable forcing someone to spend nine months performing CPR on them to keep them going? Would your answer be different if they’d ever chosen to have sex?

          • Amanda Davis

            Coma’s don’t really work that way…but I understand what you’re trying to get at.
            There is a difference between forcing Person A to keep Person B alive by their own effort, or giving Person A the right to end Person B’s life FOR ANY REASON.
            And I’m confused as to your second question. Are you asking if I believe terminating a pregnancy is ok if the person in question has been raped? If so, my answer is: One violent act is not repaired by another. The life of that child is of no less value simply because its father was a rapist.
            As a rape survivor, I understand the enormity of what I just said. I have compassion for any woman who chooses to have an abortion, because I believe that abortion harms women. If that woman is choosing because she cannot stand to have her rapist’s baby grow inside of her for 9 months, I have even more compassion. I would not presume to say that if I were faced with her choice, I would choose anything different. That does not change the fact that another human being was killed.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            “forcing Person A to keep Person B alive by their own effort”
            Which seems to be what you’re advocating if person B is inside person A.

            “giving Person A the right to end Person B’s life FOR ANY REASON”
            Who has advocated this sort of allowing anybody to kill anybody else for any reason?

          • Amanda Davis

            You don’t see the difference between a baby naturally growing inside a uterus vs. forcing someone to perform CPR? It wasn’t my effort that resulted in my children growing in my uterus until they were full term.

            “For any reason” meaning there is not any reason that person a should be allowed to kill person b. And yes, I extend this to capital punishment as well as physician assisted suicide. In terms of self-defense, if there is no other option, I still consider it a tragedy that a human life is ended.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            “It wasn’t my effort that resulted in my children growing in my uterus until they were full term.”

            You really think they could have done that without you?

            You might consider the mother’s role in pregnancy to be nothing but a passive vessel, but there’s a lot more to it.

            The old tale of “a tooth for every child” has some truth to it.

          • Amanda Davis

            Lol I hadn’t heard the old tale “a tooth for every child.” Obviously I know that my babies were dependent on my body to keep them alive, I’m aware of the way my body shifted to accommodate them. I’m stating that by sheer effort or will there isn’t anything I can do to keep a baby alive in utero. My miscarriage was not something I willed, nor was it something I could have stopped. I guess I would liken it to a DNR. If I was a terminal cancer patient, I might say, “I want to live my last few months chemo free. Do not recesitate when my organs finally fail.” There is a difference between that and flying to Sweden for a physician assisted suicide. One is letting nature take its course, the other is ending a life.

  • sambar2

    She’s actually kind of a sweet looking woman. When she’s not talking it’s almost possible to forget she has a heart filled with pure evil.

  • Lamontyoubigdummy

    Pbthttt.

    You heard the woman.

    Infanticide is NOT controversial.

    The science is settled.

    Here’s a pamphlet.

    Now move along.

  • iconoclast

    “every woman needs to make their own decision”

    So killing infants after they are born is a woman’s decision?

    • FirstSkirt

      How come the father doesn’t get any input into the decision? A dear friend of mine wanted to marry his sweetheart and have a family. He had a successful career and asked her to marry many times. She didn’t want to be married. He came home one evening and she told him she had an abortion that day. He wasn’t consulted and didn’t know she was pregnant. He asked her to leave their home. The loss of that child broke his heart and he became an advocate for pro-life and a supporter for the farthers who went through the same experience.

      • QueenB

        To these people daddy’s don’t count unless they need the money. Then it counts a lot, and in fact, if you take the attitude the women easily could have, you’re a bad guy.

      • Bathing Suit Area

        He has full control over any pregnancies that are going on in his uterus.

  • WhoDat

    I need to find the entire interview and see if the question was relevant or not.

    Personally, I do not like abortions, but I also do not see it as my obligation to tell a woman, especially one I do not know, what she can do with her life and the life inside of her.

    There needs to be a point where it is legally wrong to have an elective abortion, though.

    • Arkuy The Great

      That is the problem right there. The “life inside of her” is not hers but that of someone else. By any reasonable measure it has ceased to be “a woman’s individual choice” at that point.

      • Bill Phillips

        Maybe an illustration will help liberals understand:

        • AMERICAN Kafir™✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          Well, in my belief, we all belong to God, through the saving grace of Christ Jesus. So basically, babies(and the innocent life thereof) belong to God. Abortion is murdering God’s children, in more ways than one.

        • Bathing Suit Area

          So if it’s not your body, you should have no say in whether it’s in your body? Sounds like an argument in favor of rape.

    • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

      We’re not telling them what to do; we’re telling them 1)We believe (Not feel, as Liberals do) that LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION, and 2)That we Believe ALL LIFE IS PRECIOUS… That even “Special Cases” (As I was) deserve a Chance at life. We also believe that this violates the Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness of the (potential) baby.
      We also point out that, as opposed to “Safe and Rare,” there are thousands of abortions every year, and over 55 MILLION since 1973…. And as for the “Safe” part, well.. I’m sure they will let Kermit Gosnell lecture us on that… Jawamax 8<{D}

    • QueenB

      “The life inside of her” being a key point. It IS a life. A human life. Period.

  • Zathras11 @B5

    I’m not sure if when her life began is “relevant” either.
    Doctor Z suggests retroactive abortion in her case.

  • HARP2

    If someone snuffs her out, I don’t think if it’s relevant whether she dies right away or hangs on and suffers for a day or so.

  • Charles Kunold

    I’d like to ask this brilliant thinker has to say why doctor’s do surgeries in the womb to help lessen the effects of spinal bifida. Why do they remove obstructions in the urethra of male fetuses? Why do they repair defective heart valves? Hiatal hernias? Teaching hospitals have refined these techniques so I wonder what I can’t make up my mind when I’m put on the spot would say.

  • tops116 ✓Quipper

    “I don’t know that it’s really relevant to the conversation”

    This is gonna be the track the pro-choice crowd takes if scientists determine that fetuses can feel pain.

    • Bathing Suit Area

      The anti choice crowd has of course already decided that it is completely irrelevant if women feel pain.

      • Bill Phillips

        Sounds like you have a beef with God! After all …HE is the one who designed humans to procreate that way! Funny how millions of women throughout time have chosen to ‘re-live’ that pain to bring multiple newborns into this world!

        • Bathing Suit Area

          If you’re gonna say that the whole system is God’s doing, then take it up with him if you think it’s unfair to fetuses that they don’t get to live if women don’t want to carry a pregnancy to term.

        • SpiffyMclure

          God huh? Over 50% of *all* fertilized eggs fail to implant properly and are discarded by the body naturally. See, in terms of being designed, it’s arguably a highly wasteful system, and seems to suggest that God might not think life begins at conception.

  • interestedobserver2

    No, no, I have to respect her complete honesty. She couldn’t care less what the definition or line might be; for her it’s all about ensuring the greatest possible number of babies are murdered, pure and simple. Discussions of justification are completely irrelevant therefore.

    • spaceycakes

      that was my take on it too.

  • EDUCATEDPATRIOT

    Interesting, she is for “safe + legal abortion “. I wonder if that stance would have included the abortion of her own life, had her mother opted for “reproductive freedom”?

  • RblDiver

    In the case of liberals, I vote that life doesn’t start until they’re 150. (And since they’re not alive, that’s “150 years post-womb” or “603 trimesters”)

    • Arkuy The Great

      Some say life begins at conception.
      Some say life begins at birth.

      Some say life begins when the kids leave home and the dog dies!

  • OLLPOH ~ OurLifeLiberty

    You’re relevant because you’re alive???????????????????

    HA! HA! HA!

  • agentm0m

    It’s not “relevant” because she doesn’t care. She doesn’t care about life, only the “right” to take life.

  • DaMonk

    the stupid is deep in this one.

  • Paul C.

    This is what happens when the LIBERAL mask drops off!!

  • porgiefirefighter

    A new twist on the Nuremberg defense.

  • gridlock2

    Ask any Pro-Choicer these three questions:

    Q1: What sets us apart from the animals? Fpr instance, why is it illegal to kill a human, but you can slaughter a cow?

    Q2: At what point in the development of a human, from conception to adulthood, does that thing that sets us apart from the animals attach?

    Q3: Are you sure about that date?

  • Jimni27

    She’s the head honcho of the abortion business- OF COURSE it’s relevant to the conversation! I wish he would have kept going with this, it would have exposed her for the extremist she is. At least he asked but I would LOVE to see a reporter AKIN her. Just keep going at her until the awful truth rolls out of her mouth. Honestly this woman infuriates me- and I’m pro choice! And stop calling it women’s health! It’s abortion. They think by calling it women’s health it will somehow be less awful.

  • JCRocks

    Libs: Protect choice at all cost unless it is for religious convictions.

  • Perry

    Racist, eugenicist Margaret Sanger would be proud of her.

  • deimos19

    It begins when the government says it begins, bitchez.

  • ToyZebra

    These people are inhuman. I don’t say that lightly, as a generic insult. I mean they have lost their humanity. Not simply to kill a baby in the womb, but to make a business out of it. To raise generations on the idea that it is a “right”. To have a major political party fully dedicated to supporting it and the Kermit Gosnells of the world. To make doctors into butchers. Whether you believe in God or karma, it’s no wonder the country keeps sinking down.

    • Perry

      It devalues life. Look at some of these communities where abortions are rampant. Why would anyone be surprised that their young people are gunning people down and violence is the norm? After all, they’re just humans that weren’t aborted.

      • Bill Phillips

        Great points..by both of you!

  • Arkuy The Great

    Abortion is anti-trans-generational. If your mother had one you most certainly will not!

  • Steven Sweeney

    Abortion will never be OK until they isolate the liberal gene..

  • halflight

    So, Ms Richards, if I shoot a gun into a building, is it irrelevant to ask if a human being is inside? Or does my constitutional right to bear arms make the question irrelevant? For me, that’s a rhetorical question; for you, I’m not so sure.

  • http://rueuhy.com/ Russthecurious

    How deep the trashcan goes that holds the remains of an unborn baby. If it was such a good and constitutional choice to destroy a human’s ability to live a life I believe there should be a law that every woman that steps into a facility to abort her “unborn non-living” fetus should be required to view an aborted fetus prior to the “procedure”. I imagine the abortion numbers would go down some. It’s the real horrors of this life that seldom get the press they truly deserve.

    • grais

      They should be forced to view the procedure itself and the aborted fetus also. It just may convince them to be vigilant about practicing actual, pre-conception birth control.

  • Mary123s

    yes it IS part of the convo, you idiot!!! You only got this job because your mom was governor of Texas. You are a terrible CEO…the clinics are crap; a local one near me had some major violations and was just recently built. You have no plans other than collect money, show up on TV and eat lunch with Obama

  • Stephen L. Hall #NonquamTrump

    “every woman needs to make their own decision” about when the life of the child they are destroying begins? Since when does one person get to tell another when their life begins? How is life or existence even potentially a subjective question?

  • Lindakl

    I would suggest a late term abortion for her.

  • Michael

    I always SMH when I realize all the people that are for abortion came from parent that weren’t

  • Saito Sama

    Geese.. Everyone knows you get pregnant sitting on a toilet in the boys room so it has to begin on the day she snuck in and bingo.. dare it is life began on Wednesday the 23
    between 2nd and 3rd periods…

  • Saito Sama

    or it began when Bobby smiled at her and said hello and ended when she found out he was gay!

  • bicentennialguy

    Of course they believe in sex education. Get ’em started early, get ’em going like rabbits – gotta keep that business ramped up for the abortion mill, Planned Parenthood. These people are nothing more than amateur pornographers.

    • Bathing Suit Area

      What? Are you saying that you really think sex education is what makes people have sex? That we’d all happily stay virgins with no sexual impulses had nobody given us the birds and bees talk?

      • bicentennialguy

        No, I’m not saying that at all. I guess I have to clarify for the willfully dense amongst us. There is absolutely no excuse to be talking to children who haven’t sexually matured about sex whatsoever. The rumblings that we have all heard over the last several years about starting it in Kindergarten or elementary school are frightening. It’s insidious and has a greater goal than just “education.”

        • Bathing Suit Area

          So before puberty, kids shouldn’t be told about anything between navel and kneecaps? That babies simply appear out of thin air?

          Seems to me that the less kids know, the more susceptible they’d be to whatever sick things an abuser might want to convince them of.

  • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

    It’s that Liberal Dance craze…I believe it’s called the ‘Avoid-Dance’… Cecile doesn’t want to answer the question, because it might “compromise her stance on the issue.” My opinion, not her “feelings”. ‘Nuff said. Jawamax 8<{D}

    • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      I sincerely wish that more people in public positions had balls to speak straight.

  • JohnG911

    We know when life begins and ENDS. Try convincing Charlotte Dawson’s family that her unborn child’s life was IRRELEVANT!

  • A-Train

    so does that mean it’s fair game for her to be aborted? these people are disgusting and mentally challenged.

  • Wart

    Did she just say woman had the right to kill people as long as they don’t think they’re alive?

    • spaceycakes

      yes; when she feels like it.

    • QueenB

      That’s pretty much what I got from it.

  • Terry Caywood

    Conception??Viability??The Bible proves who is in charge of the blessing of a child. Abraham and Sarai tried most of their life to have a namesake to carry on without success, until God promised them, in their old age, that they would have a son. They laughed at God, because the EARTHLY belief was that that was impossible. When does life begin? Only with God’s blessing at conception!! Even in the case of rape or incest etc. pregnancy only comes from God. Without HIM, pregnancy is impossible. JMHO

    • Bathing Suit Area

      By the same logic, wouldn’t abortions be impossible unless God chose for that to happen?

      • Terry Caywood

        Uhh,UUh..WHUT?? That’s goofy. God ALLOWS us, as free moral agents, to do STUPID moves all the time. What does one have to do with the other? One cannot become pregnant without God’s blessing. One can most certainly destroy that creation just as with anything HE creates. But the price for destroying life will be eternal.

        • Bathing Suit Area

          What? God reviews every sperm and egg combination for approval, but no other human actions? What an oddly specific focus.

          • Terry Caywood

            Explaining the Bible to a non-believer is like a Nuclear Physicist explaining an atom to a frog. FYI, the Biblical multiple predictions(at least 500 years before time) of the FACTS of Jesus birth mathematically equates to a 2 ft. fence around Texas, filled with golf balls, one of which is red and one blindfolded person walks across Texas to instinctively picks the red one. That’s 146 to the fifteenth power to one odds. Frogs cannot assimilate that into their tiny brains, I betcha. Of course, it is 66 books, written by many different people over thousands of years, all consistent and error free. ANything like that EVER happen before? Naw

          • Bathing Suit Area

            I can’t tell if you’re trolling or not here.

          • Terry Caywood

            See frog analogy above in the troll free zone.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            Oh, so you were serious about the bible having no errors or contradictions.

  • notenoughtime

    Pro choice individual duck and dodge the life question when it comes to abortion. Any woman who has been pregnant knows that life starts at conception. So little respect for human life is not a good look!

  • skolbrother

    Her answer is actually 2 answers……her opinion of when life begins is irrelevant AND the life ITSELF is irrelevant.

  • PatriotRG

    I certainly know she is not relevant

  • Conservative Pitbull

    Dim libs keep shooting themselves in the vagina. She should smile, her mother chose life. I’m not surprised what comes out of her mouth. Way to represent, baby killer.

  • http://batman-news.com Michael Sharkey

    “every woman needs to make their own decision.”
    The follow-up question should have been “At what point in a woman’s life does she acquire the right to make this decision?” because, statistically, over 50% of babies aborted are living female human beings. Let’s see her squirm out of that one!

  • http://batman-news.com Michael Sharkey

    “every woman needs to make their own decision.”
    At what point do the rights of one woman supersede the rights of another woman?!? Over half of abortions are taking the life of a living female human being. I think it’s safe to say the ‘woman’ in the womb would make the ‘decision’ to live. Am I wrong?

  • whitewolf9

    If you go by her principles, she would be OK with killing 6 month old children (after all, they are still wholly dependent upon the mother: AKA not viable)

  • billybobz

    When dealing with a retarded, rancid old dyyyke, you have to expect that it will behave like a retarded, rancid old dyyyke. This richards sow isn’t much different for the old hate sow she had for a mother.

  • JimboDiddley

    She is irrelevant

  • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

    Cecile Richards you had me at “I don’t know”.

  • TheProudDuck

    Implications: Even if abortion kills a human person — that doesn’t matter. Killing children is a matter of individual choice.

    • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

      She’s the product of the dixiecrat mentality. They are Darwinist fundamentalist. It doesn’t matter to them that eugenics has been repudiated and debunked. Because eugenics has been ingrained into their political philosophy. They treat human beings as if they are nothing more than animals. So they treat human’s the same way a rancher would treat a herd of cattle. Women are considered breeding stock that has to be managed and culled.

      This explains why they used the slogan women should vote with their lady part’s. Because to a democrat that is a woman’s sole identity “reproduction”.

      When Mike Huckabee pointed out that he wouldn’t dream of treating women in such a manner (democrat’s are implying they have no control over their reproductive behavior) they all got their back’s up. Because he hit a nerve.

      Why republican’s don’t take advantage of the condescending manner in which the democrat’s treat women I will never understand? Unless the republican party agrees with the democrats. It’s obvious Mike Huckabee doesn’t.

  • derfelcadarn

    So if I decide that life begins a year older than you are, I can snuff out your miserable life, Cecile ? Sounds like a good deal.

    • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

      She’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer- she has spent a lot of her public life riding her mama’s coat tails.

  • Eric D. Mertz #NeverTrump

    At least the original proponents of Abortion were intellectually honest enough to admit they were committing murder. Now, they try to hide behind philosophy instead of accepting the American Medical Association’s iron clad statement that life begins at Conception.

  • Barry A. Brewer

    Give her credit. She’s just being honest about how the Proggies actually feel.

  • sustantivo

    Yeh, she’s just being honest in regards to not really caring when human lfe begins. I also give her credit for being honest with that sign she’s holding: “Safe + Legal” I often ask pro-abortion types why they couple those two words with the word “Rare” but they never have a good response…at least not one that is consistent with their message of choice.

  • Patriot Pat

    She’s having difficulty answering this because her actual views are quite radical: that life begins at birth. Hell, some of these Lefties are even evil enough to claim that newborns don’t have human rights and there are even rare Left wing “ethicists” who claim that all dependent children’s lives are up to the parent to let them live or die.

  • Ed McDowell

    Would they allow a practicing Catholic doctor to teach sex education or wouldn’t he/she meet certain qualifications.

  • https://youtu.be/h82D5ZvcALM CrustyB

    OK, I’ve decided that Cecile Richard’s life hasn’t begun. I’m going to fetch my shotgun, practice my “right to choose.”

    • hellenhighwater

      Really wrong, but I can’t help but laugh.

  • Chip

    No one asked what the murdered unborn wanted….

  • lainer51

    To her teeny weeny brain, she is right. The only thing that IS relevant to her is when SHE decides it’s time to end the life.
    That pesky question “when does life begin?” just muddies the water.

  • lukuj

    We’ll, if you are determined to murder babies, I guess it doesn’t matter to you WHEN. You will murder them.

  • hellenhighwater

    imbeCecile

  • swg

    If I can jump in here and get all “sciency…” So I’ve been teaching university biology for some time. On the first day of class in every intro biology (for majors, nonmajors, whatever) we go over the characteristics of “life.” To be alive, an organism must show these following characteristics. Ready?
    1.Cellular organization means that everything living consists of at least one cell.
    2. Ordered complexity means that organisms have several layers of complexity (organs are made of tissues, tissues made of cells, cells made of organelles, organelles made of molecules, etc.).
    3. Sensitivity means that it responds to stimuli.
    4. Growth, development, reproduction are self-explanatory.
    5. Metabolism/energy utilization are self-explanatory.
    6. Homeostasis means that it maintains its internal environment (temperature, pH, solute concentration) such that it may differ from its surroundings.
    7. Adaption/interaction means that it interacts with other organisms and the abiotic environment in ways that influence its survival.
    A sperm or egg cell lacks No. 4 at least. A fertilized egg cell (better known as a zygote) does have all 7. Once the zygote completes in first division and grows into 2 cells, it is now an embryo. It still has all 7.
    A single-celled amoeba has all 7. A single-celled algae has all 7. A bacteria cell has all 7. A roundworm has all 7. An alligator has all 7. A fertilized chicken egg has all 7. Clearly there a thousands of single-celled organisms that we consider to be alive. We consider the immature stages of plants and animals and fungi for that matter to be alive. Acorn is alive. It clearly is nothing more than an immature oak tree, it might be dormant, but it still has all of those 7 characters. If an amoeba is alive, or some other single-celled protist is alive, then the status of a single-celled human zygote must be rather obvious.
    A virus does not have all 7. Viruses do not consume food (metabolize), they don’t grow, and they don’t reproduce on their own (they have to take over an actual living cell to reproduce), and it is not a cell (a cell is defined as having a cell membrane – viruses do not).
    So, simply, The Science Is Settled. A fertilized egg cell (human or whatever) is alive. There is no difference in the degree to which you are “human” at the time of conception, or 2 months or 24 weeks later.
    Notice, I have said absolutely nothing about having a soul or if such exists, that is where religion comes in and I’m not going to say boo about any of that. I am simply presenting the science on the definition life. So you can’t call me a religious nut because I said nothing of the sort. I am simply using science to define life. Period.
    Discuss.

    • Wart

      Sorry SWG I used your comment to help with a troll.

      • swg

        no problem. It’s not like this is anything new. Any intro college textbook has the same definition.

  • rogleecam

    At any stage of life, ABORTION is MURDER! We progress and evolve from fertile egg to elderly until we die. No woman, NOR PRACTITIONER, has the right to choose death for another human life! One of your knees against the other is the answer, you lovers of pleasure!

  • LCM☝✊

    Can we abort her?

  • JW

    The deep thinking of PPH’s chief eugenicist

  • Michael Bird

    It is not only relevant, but it is the primary question when an abortion is argued for “convenience”. Medically necessary/conception due to rape/incest are a whole different argument, but an abortion for any other reason and…IT’S RELEVANT and she knows it. She knows the logic and where an answer will lead and it’s not pretty if she wants to continue her “business”. As amoral as I feel she is, she is savvy about that “business”.

  • Nahalban

    Ah the pushers of Margaret Sanger Eugenics kill every child you can but espcially kill the children of poor whites and minorities because without the poor the world can’t resist tyranny.

  • Jett

    I bet her answer is 1 year post womb, could be three or hell, why not 10. It just seems to me that she loves the death of innocent babies. How ghoulish.

  • http://www.nleomf.org/officers/ FlatFoot

    Cecile’s got good ol’ greazy Uncle Joe on her side. She can’t lose.

  • http://www.InformingChristians.com/ DebraJMSmith

    If life begins at birth, then why do they have to kill the baby in order to abort the baby?

  • CasualMeyhem

    OK. At what point does destroying a particular lump of cells constitute murder?

  • WTFrontyardAmerica

    Cecile looks like a women who would throw her baby to the ground while feeding it formula, to answer a phone call.

  • leftwingthom

    She probably said it’s not really relevant to the conversation because PP doesn’t perform abortions very often. They’re more about providing counseling and giving birth control and other services for safe sex and pregnancies. It’s just witch-hunting Puritans who only wanna hear about the abortion thing, because they desperately need an issue to get behind. Honestly, who gave you people rights?

  • Justice Mercy

    Someone who murders a pregnant mother such that the Pregnancy (fetus/child depending upon your view) also dies, is guilty of two murders under criminal law in most if not all American jursiidictions.

  • sandyaz

    Man, I would hate to be her on Judgement Day.

  • LeftistsStink

    If only she could be aborted to see how she feels about it then.

  • AMERICAN Kafir™✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    .@ThisIsAmerica I wonder who @CecileRichards thanks (her lucky stars??) that her mother chose life. #tcot

  • Always Vigilant

    Patriots: Arm yourself with liberty’s longbow and pierce the illusions of today’s liberals and progressives: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0094KY878

  • Conservative Ohioan

    The liberals’ baby bloodlust continues unabated.