Ask and ye shall receive! Mediaite’s Tommy Christopher wasn’t amused by conservatives’ reaction to the creepy #WHYouth hashtag put out by the White House this week in advance of the White House Youth Summit. Townhall’s Katie Pavlich took notice as well, writing, “I know we’re not supposed to make references to Hitler, but the latest move by the White House makes it really hard not to.”

Christopher responded, writing, “This is the fundamental conservative misunderstanding about everything from racism to misogyny to any other concern that they can dismiss as “political correctness”: you’re not supposed to do, or not do, anything, but what you choose to do, or not do, says something about you.” We don’t quite understand that sentence either, but Pavlich made it clear she as a conservative woman knows what misogyny is.

More like, the White House’s fundamental misunderstanding was the historical connotations that would be inextricably linked to a hashtag like #WHYouth.

He only criticized all conservatives, not Pavlich.

What was that about misdirection?

That’s the second pass, right?

  • Al’s Not So Sad Grampa

    Who is Tommy Christopher?

    • Electradivine

      Who is Katie?

      • Al’s Not So Sad Grampa

        Brilliant retort. Think of it all by yourself?

        • Fhalkyn Phoenix

          Now that’s quite the unfair remark. His groupthink therapies are very expensive (and expect those costs to climb with Obamacare!)

          • Cory

            That’s the point of Tommy’s post, both parties “groupthink.” Like conservatives defending Iraq and Todd Akin: groupthink.

          • alanstorm

            No, Tommy ASSUMES that conservatives practice groupthink, because leftists sure do. Speak to any Obama supporter for a demonstration.

            Assuming so, however, does not make it so.

            Also, he’s just not very bright, like most lefties. His replies are disjointed and unconnected to much of anything – e.g. he refers to dismissal of the Holocaust, as if that was the sum total of Naziism rather than an effect of it.

          • Cory

            What issues do conservatives disagree on?

          • junkbondtrader41

            This is a joke, right? How about the immigration divide between the traditionalist right and the business right? How about the gay marriage debate between so-cons and the libertarian right? How about flat taxers vs fair taxers? How about foreign policy between the Buchananists and the neo-cons? How about the privacy/WOT debate between the libertarians and the defense hawks? That enough for you?

            There is more intellectual richness and diversity on the right than on an MSNBC panel any damn day of the week.

          • Cory

            I didn’t say the right or Republicans, I said conservatives. If a conservative supports immigration reform he is primaried because he’s not a true conservative, if a conservative doesn’t care about what you do socially, he’s primaried because he’s not a true conservative, if a conservative believes in education he’s primaried because he’s not a true conservative. Is this not true?

          • 0bamasnought

            I’m an Conservative that wants Immigration Enforcement, and 100% of gross profit business penalties.
            I believe the Government overreach in education have been a dismal failure.
            I believe the Fraud in our system will doom the needed Social Safety Net.

          • junkbondtrader41

            The primarying point is true, as is the phenomenon of certain self-appointed arbiters of who is a “true conservative.” But this, you don’t seem to realize, is proof of intellectual diversity within a movement, the exact opposite of your assertion that it’s monolithic. What you’re doing is taking the most purist, least diverse faction of conservativism and conflating it with the entire philosophy, and that’s patently unfair.

            The Wall Street Journal edit page reads vastly differently from The American Conservative magazine. Reason magazine is worlds apart from what you’ll hear watching CBN. And on and on. But all of them can fairly be called parts of “conservatism.”

            You want an example of conservatives who have essentially no intellectual diversity, and allow none on their site? Check out Redstate.com. But our screaming kamikazes and excommunicators don’t represent the whole of conservativism, no matter how much they claim to.

          • Liz

            That is not true.

            I am a conservative that supports immigration reform, but I do not and will not support amnesty. If he/she is being primaried, I am sure that is not the only reason.

            I also do not believe that the government should be involved in social issues at all. That is the reason that we are in the mess that we are in.

            And your reference to education is just BS. Everyone believes in education. The nation cannot survive without it. But do you seriously think that the education that are children are getting will help are nation to survive? If you do, you need a reeducation.

          • Jay Stevens

            Not exactly.

            I believe in immigration reform. I just do not think the term means what liberals think it does. And I am all for “education”. I just think that public education has gone downhill since the advent of Carter’s Department of Education.

          • astute_observation

            Do you ever realise how insufferable you are as a leftist when you sanitise amnesty with dishonest language like “immigration reform”? Try, just for once, to be honest.

          • Mark81150 Never/Trump/Hillary

            Got an hour?

            Our libertarian wing our social conservative wing.. isolationist vs. practical interventionist. drug policies, social commentary..

            of course we have family spats..

            The media loves to call them a civil war..

          • Cory

            I’m a libertarian not a conservative. Conservatives by definition wants to go back to how things were. Libertarians want drastic changes in how DC and America works. True small government not just small in certain areas.

          • 0bamasnought

            And Libertarians are Democrats that had to pay taxes. Democrats, by definition, want to go back to slavery, and KKK intimidation.
            Libertarians want a drastic expansion of Government, they just want someone else to pay for it.
            True small Defense, Border Enforcement, and Fraud prevention, just do not even think about touching Welfare, Social Security, or Medicare/aid.

          • 0bamasnought

            Wow, I am shocked.
            It’d take me all day.
            I’m saving them all up for ‘The Airing of the Grievances”.

          • ObamaFail

            Well, when Marco Rubio is for open borders and amnesty while others are against amnesty for illegals, wouldn’t you call that a disagreement?
            I’ve yet to hear any lib disagree with eachother on anything.

          • Mark81150 Never/Trump/Hillary

            Indeed… establishing an Obama youth…

            our criticizing it, for the vile thing it is, and resembles….. somehow diminishes the Holocaust?

            on what planet?

            I guarantee you, that Jews have no greater friend in America, than conservatives, who have been steadfast in supporting Israel and fighting antisemitism..

            the left?

            You’ll find Holocaust deniers, antisemitic dirtbags, and Islamist apologists for suicide bombings at every left wing rally.. Zombie has the pics…

            so when Obama’s fanatical zealots create a new youth corps with loyalty oaths.. if we criticize it,.. we’re just diminishing the Holocaust…

            Leftist Newspeak at it’s best.. up is down, right is wrong…

            and Christopher’s a real journalist..

          • ObamaFail

            Conservatives want to remain allies with Israel while liberals think that the muslims are justified in wanting Israel wiped off the map.

        • Texan357

          It demonstrates the uselessness of the “Who is ____” argument; to wit, your ability to recognize a speaker has nothing whatever to do with whether or not the speaker is making a valid point. It’s an inversion of the “argumentum ad populum” fallacy.

      • Joseph Kurt

        She’s the young lady handing Tommy Christopher his ass in the post above. I understand the confusion, though.

      • Michael Rice

        Geez, what’s next “I know what you are, but what am I”?

        • Markward

          I’m rubber you’re glue.

          • Mark81150 Never/Trump/Hillary

            damn……

            now I’m getting that Fallout urge… arguing with liberals can be frustrating, nothing like mowing down supermutants with a mini-gun to relieve the stress.

            Never did the Enclave.. nice avatar.. always was a BOS supporter myself.

          • Worship Dancer

            never have a battle of wits with an unarmed person, it wastes YOUR time and wits and confuses THEM. 😉

        • TheOriginalDonald

          no, that would be JOeMyGod’s retort

      • Barack Hussein Sharpton

        She’s an intelligent, attractive woman.

    • H50 ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      A hack at mediaite.

      Hes a condescending misogynist who lectures conservative women about being overly sensitive.

    • V the K

      A grown man who calls himself “Tommy.” Nuff said.

      • ObamaFail

        I know adults named Tommy, but only their close friends and family call them Tommy. At work and in other social settings with people they aren’t close with, they prefer Thomas.

        • Jay Stevens

          “Thomas Lee Jones” … just doesn’t sound right.

          • Mtr Mann

            Tommy Lee’s a Southern country thing, like Billy Joe or Bobby Tom, but Christopher’s name is a preppy affectation.

    • rssllue

      A guy who apparently keeps accusing Katie of making passes at him. Talk about delusional!

    • Conservative First

      A douche apparently.

    • Barack Hussein Sharpton

      Think “Bridge Troll”

    • Justwaitinforchange

      Not who, but what.
      Tommy Christopher is what venereal diseases give each other.

  • http://crayfisher.wordpress.com/ Myiq2xu™

    Tommy has turned trolling into a profession.

  • H50 ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    Why do progs think that any reference to Hitler is a reference to the Holocaust?
    The was a lot that went on before the final solution was implemented and there are distinct parallels between this admins propaganda, indoctrination and using the law as a bludgeon on its citizens.

    Children were indoctrinated to turn in their parents and anyone else who disagreed, let alone defied the Nazi tyranny.

    Using children/youth for a political movement by the government is a warning siren to anyone who has studied history.

    Dictators generally follow a pattern of behavior in their rise to power, only the names change.

    • Wayne Swanson

      It’s like trying to hook kids on smoking, only douchier.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      And let us not forget, this isn’t the first time the left has done this.
      Anyone remember algore propagandizing and using children. ‘you know things your parents don’t know’ ala globull warming.

      • Worship Dancer

        wonder if denver and colorado springs understand the globull warming thing?

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          I sure understood it when it snowed on my garden back in Sept. and temps plummeted for weeks following that and killed my garden early.

          • Worship Dancer

            obviously did not get the memo. shame on them. 😉 algore will NOT be happy. makes him look like he was lying about that globull warming thing.

  • Frustrated Teacher

    Progressive are the ONLY ones allowed to use Hitler and Nazi references (they labelled EVERYTHING Bush did as one or the other). The only problem is that they usually show a pretty solidly ignorant grasp of what Hitler and the Nazis were about. Then when a conservative uses and appropriate and well thought out reference….attack troll time!

    • ObamaFail

      If I had a dollar for every time a liberal called Bush a Nazi, I’d be able to pay off the national debt and retire.

  • Txgirlinnh

    As a conservative woman, I would just like to give a big F U to Tommy Christopher and any other liberal man that thinks they understand misogyny better than a conservative woman.

    • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil ✓Mate

      It’s an easy mistake to make for liberal “men”. They are more feminine than most women.

    • Jim Denney

      Please don’t take this as misogynist ma’am, but you’re mighty damn cute and the dawg ain’t bad either. Just one question though, that “nh” ain’t New Hampshire is it ?

      • Txgirlinnh

        It does. I moved up here two years ago and minus the moonbat liberals from Mass, I can’t say enough about this gorgeous state Also, thank you for the compliment, and Apollo thanks you too :)

        • Jay Stevens

          You are right about “the moonbat liberals from Mass”. The southern third of the state is practically a suburb of Boston.

          They are a mixed blessing. On one hand, they are a plague upon the land. On the other, they are about the only people with money in the state. (OK, it’s not quite that bad, but it is close.)

          I took the opposite path. I was born in North Conway and ended up in Texas.

    • aPLWBinAK

      The entire Leftist mindset is arrogance based.
      It’s why Leftist’s think they know better than you about everything.
      It’s why they agitate for big gubmint….because big gubmint knows better than you do….regarding every part of your life.

  • H50 ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    This whole exchange started because of an article that TC wrote on mediaite I think. Its the story hes promoting on his timeline.
    He made a pretense of evaluating how the 3 cable news channels covered Mandelas death. He determined that FOX gave it the most minimal coverage because,,,,,racist.

    • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      Oh, yeah, because Obamacare somehow became less important of an issue directly affecting Americans than the death of some retired doddering old politician in some other country, whose health had long been in decline and who was thought to be moribund weeks ago.

      It would be interesting if someone were to do comparisons of the coverage surrounding the death of Margaret Thatcher by CNN, MSNBC, and FOX as to who did the most, and what was the general tone of the reports. The two events are certainly comparable, as being the passing of a transformative individual in the histories of their respective nations.

      • H50 ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        I think Newsbusters did a comparison at the time it was about the same, in reverse.

        Apparently then, the reasoning that there was other news to cover was acceptable. Now the news must be all Mandela, the time.
        By TC standards that makes CNN and MSNBC misogynists for not saturating the airwaves with MT memorandums.
        Who knew?

      • Mark81150 Never/Trump/Hillary

        Remember Reagan’s funeral?

        75% of the country was in mourning for an American orginal, a giant. The remainder were largely a mix of the who cares crowd… and the ever hateful left wishing him a swift trip to Hell..

        They raged and foamed at the love shown a truly well loved president.

        couldn’t snarl their outrage fast enough.

        Mandala’s passing is universally the cause of positive coverage.. and Christopher whines, it isn’t groveling enough?

        did he even care that the left was savage during Reagan’s state funeral?

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    What exactly is wrong with recognizing history and making sure it isn’t repeated regarding White House Youth?

  • Jim Denney

    I’m not deeply invested in this soory (Newspeak for “sorry story”), but can somebody enlighten me why it’s legitimate the pasty ol’ white dude is lecturing Katie on racism, “ageism”, and misogynism again?

  • Markward

    I bet TC said the same thing about Bush = Hitler.

  • Bklynnygirl

    10/15/2013

    Mediaite’s Christopher asks dumbest question in history of White House press briefings.

    During Tuesday’s White House briefing on Tuesday, Christopher, whose name isn’t really “Tommy Christopher,” asked a question about President Barack Obama’s health-care reform law that incorporated his personal experiences with health insurance after his 2010 heart attack.

    “First of all, I don’t if you’re aware of this, but when I had a heart attack three years ago, I was uninsured, and I haven’t been able to get insurance ever since then,” Christopher said. “Listening to all the pressure on the president to negotiate, a lot of it from inside this room, it made me think, is there a chance the president would be willing to delay Obamacare for a year if Republicans were to agree to delay heart attacks for a year?”

    Must see the video.
    http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/15/mediaites-christopher-asks-dumbest-question-in-history-of-white-house-press-briefings-video/

  • Tyson Litz

    The same Tommy Christopher (who understands the misogyny that Katie simply can’t) who Tweeted –

    “Tommy Christopher
    @tommyxtopher
    This is why Rush rolls along, libs throw their guys under the bus. Who spoke up for #MartinBashir against the noise? http://bit.ly/18CTNBL

  • Abbie Mills

    The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts, and provide for the common defense.

  • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    So– we’re not supposed to point out, e.g., how Barry has a Leftie-Messiah cult of personality, verging on that of Jim Jones, because that would be trivializing the deaths of so many people?

    Somebody’s drinking a strange flavor of Kool-Aid here, if you can’t point out obvious Obama shudder-moments. (And BTW, “Christopher,” never use the Kool-Aid metaphor from now on, if you’re serious.)

    • divingpetrel

      Yes it is interesting how the left uses misdirection. The Holocaust was only a part of the whole Nazi thing. There was so much more to the building of a cult of personality that Hitler did to gain the total support of the masses and many of those are being manifested by this administration. Of course these tactics are not solely the province of Hitler and the Nazis, but also used by such wonderful examples of human compassion as Lenin, Stalin, the Kims of North Korea, Mugabe and just about every third world tin-pot dictator out there. These run the gamut ranging from the plethora of trinkets and other items bearing the dear leaders picture or symbol (I have never before seen such an abundance of clothing bearing a portrait of a president (or candidate) as I have seen since the 2008 elections (except in pictures of campaign rallies in such places as Zimbabwe or Venezuela) up to the White House Youth, demonizing the political opposition and politically motivated legal harassment (how much longer until the show trials begin?). The arrogance of power shown by this administration is quite reminiscent of the aforementioned dictators. I firmly believe that they would not think twice about engineering the “neutralization” of the political opposition or enemies of the state if they could get away with it. The level of hatred seen out there by their adherents and the incidents of violence and vandalism committed by them so far could easily mushroom into full-on attempts at repression of those whom they look upon as enemies.

      • Justwaitinforchange

        You have to be totally ignorant of history to call anything the [blank] youth and not understand the ridicule you will be subject to. Every one around the president is a self absorbed jerk with a vastly inflated self worth. They suck the oxygen out of the room and cause brain cells to commit suicide.

  • Julie the Jarhead

    “You better put some ice on that.”

  • TheOriginalDonald

    TC seems butthurt at the BEATDOWN Katie Pavlich just gave him! To quote Steve Smith-ICE UP SON! ICE UP!

  • vcferlita

    Loyalty oaths are pretty common on both sides.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      Show me the money. please. I wanna see the video (As seen just below) of republicans using children in any shape, manner or form like the left does.

      MMMM MMMM MMMM Barack Hussein Obama.
      How about the militant black youth video.
      Alpha! Omega! Alpha! Omega! I pledge my spirit to Barack.

  • Zathras11 @B5

    This isn’t creepy at all:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJFC1qFCgyA

  • Pat Loudoun

    Katie is a total PILF.

    Extra points to the first person who correctly id’s the acronym…

  • Mark81150 Never/Trump/Hillary

    Remember in 08, when Tommy angered the left, and he caught unholy Hell for it… with his only defenders being us, “Fundamentally misunderstanding” conservatives?

    He made a half hearted stab at being even handed.. but it didn’t last.

    He’s been a loyal progressive foot soldier since..

    and Yes Tommy… we think everything you do, say and write is dependent on what your party tells you is acceptable. You just broad brush attacked the conservative movement as deluded.. then claim you’re not attacking anyone?

    The fact too…. why did low level state GOP functionaries ask for loyalty oaths at Bush fund raisers?.. because your leftist fellow travelers loved to sneak in and disrupt and heckle them.. a HUGE difference between an act of self defense done at the state level.. and Slates biggest whine?.. they made them… gasp.. shudder… recite the pledge of allegiance… whimper….. /sarc.

    and the Obama White House, demanding loyalty oathes to Obama himself, from CHILDREN…

    THAT you’re fine with Tommy?

    Comparisons to the Hitlerjugend, Deutsches Jungvolk… write themselves you shameless hack… it says nothing about us except we’re paying attention.. and are appalled.. bad enough what they’re doing..

    but you forget the entire cult worship which led to it.. Name a teacher who led her class in song praising the high and all mighty George Bush… just one.. The web is awash in Obama cult worship.. as well as the WH staff.. who see nothing wrong with indoctrinating a youth corps…

    really the same Christopher?..

    reciting the Pledge of Allegiance..
    and swearing loyalty to Obama…

    You long ago gave up any pretense of being an objective observer, you’re well established in the ranks of left wing extremists, and their apologists.. you may as well own it.

    You don’t get to steal our kids.. and subjecting your own to this, is utterly despicable, contemptible. Every time we think that Obama and crew have exhausted the ways they can act like banana republic fascist thugs… they surprise us with even more vile hijinks..

    You don’t like your party being compared to the Nazi’s… STOP ACTING LIKE THEM, and adopting some of their policies..

    • Elena0412

      YESSSSS!!

  • ObamaFail

    If anyone misunderstands racism and misogyny, it’s liberals. When they hear someone insult Barack Obama without mentioning his race, they think it’s racism. But when a liberal calls Stacey Dash the n-word, libs don’t see any racism there at all.
    If Conservatives call Hillary Clinton a bad choice for Presidency (because of Benghazi), libs accuse us of misogyny. But let Martin Bashir wish someone to urinate and defecate down Sarah Palin’s throat and they think it’s a “well-thought out argument.”
    Sorry libs, but it’s you guys who don’t understand any of the issues.

  • David Harrison

    Brains and Beauty…..I’m in luv!

  • FaithColeridge33

    I thought liberals thought that men aren’t supposed to comment on anything female related.

    • Harlan Hikaru Fox

      Unless they’re a female-to-male transsexual.

    • WisconsinPatriot

      The beta-male is a fickle creature…

  • Elena0412

    His views on sexism are not colored by party? So the vicious attacks on Sarah Palin are a figment of my imagination?

    • WisconsinPatriot

      Yes, and…..
      These are not the droids you are looking for.
      Move along.

      • Elena0412

        What??

        • sharinite

          Progs have a hard time making sense…Tommy does such a bad job, worse than most!

  • fcalsnoe

    I like this girl and wish there were more. I prefer Latinas as they have common sense and are more attractive but this girl has a lot of sense and and very intellectual. I like Sarah Palin too but Stephanie Cutter is true barracuda and these gals need to add a little of that to their resumes. Hope no one was offended here.

  • Oysteria

    Okay, let me get this straight.

    This –> “the fundamental conservative misunderstanding about everything from racism to misogyny”

    Follow by this –> “I’m quite sure you know my views on sexism are not colored by party.”

    Is either irony or hypocrisy. I fergit which.

  • MartiniShark

    Once again Christopher proves himself as being a supreme dolt by not even knowing what he wrote, himself, but getting angry over someone using his own words. Facts once again fail to deter him in his bid to be outraged.

    He says “There was a specific criticism directed at you . . . which you are conflating with a general critique.” However his original words were — “This is the fundamental conservative misunderstanding about everything…”

    This is NOT a specific criticism directed at Katie, AND it is the absolute height of a general criticism. Amazingly Tommy feels perfectly justified in arguing his own point 180 degrees out of phase.

  • TruDat

    Tommy Christopher, the dumbest tool in the shed. He’s best known for his job as a fluffer at gay porn shoots.