Mark Jaquith, a WordPress developer and web publishing consultant, decided to give the HealthCare.gov “gauntlet” another run Tuesday afternoon, and he live-tweeted his experience. The site might be running smoothly for the “vast majority” of Americans, but Jaquith isn’t in that vast majority.

Today’s not the day after all.

  • Clayton Grant

    This says it all:

    • QWYS (Hydralisk of the Swarm)

      Actually, given the success to date if healthcare.gov, and the messages sent out by the developer above, it more likely,

      “It’s a tarp!”

    • rssllue

      I think they just need to furlough Madoff so that he can show them how to run the scheme properly. He probably can find a way to even set the website up correctly. I am sure he has an old geocities account that he could resurrect for just such an occasion.

      • Dawn – Naturally Texan

        geocities ftw!! I have one I can donate =)

  • John Howard

    The first Marketplace without a checkout line. Just fill up the bascart and park it up at the front of the store. Come back sometime in the future when the cash registers and cashiers are put in.

    • Clayton Grant

      And just like a cart parked at the front of the store, a lot of the things in the cart will be spoiled before you can retrieve it.

      • Gunny2862

        Or stolen…

    • RichmondG30

      Funniest thing I have read in a long, long time. Literally laughing out loud.

    • lukuj

      And when the doors are unlocked.

    • porkchop6209

      And bring your EBT card to pay for it with!

  • Kristie

    Only Obama and Dems would push forward with a botched Obamacare launch that essentially destroys the healthcare system, results in millions of policy cancellations, and then leaves the public with no way to regain insurance. No one should have to endure this lunacy. If Republicans sweep the 2014 elections, we can take WH out of the equation and restore some sanity to our Federal govt.

    • porkchop6209

      Going exactly according to plan…….White House?………Jay?………chirp, chirp,chirp………..

    • bidaho

      Stop with the crocodile tears. You don’t give a damn about whether I can buy or keep health insurance. Most Americans who have insurance, get it from their employer and pretty much have zero idea what the rest of us are dealing with. This law is a godsend.

      I had one of the policies that was “cancelled”. It had also been cancelledom years past, I had to keep picking from new products they were coming out with. Those of us in the individual market are used to these things. My old plans were crap, this new ACA one is a little more expensive but MUCH better coverage.

      • Pat

        So you’re only happy now that we’re all as miserable as you. Typical miserable lib.

        • Robert Jackson

          yeah typically loser pieces of shit like this are only happy when the rest of the world has as shitty of a life as they do.

  • tops116 ✓Quipper

    Yep, “fully functional” with “private sector velocity.”

    • Clayton Grant

      Google is ranked #1 and gets about 1.4 billion visits a day.
      Facebook is ranked #2 and gets around 952 million per day.
      amazon #3 at 153 million per day.
      .

      hc.gov has a ways to go ….

      • RedBopete

        The difference is – Google, Facebook, Amazon, and any other successful company is going to hire the most competent programmers they can find. As opposed to hiring someone because they are your friend.

        • PatriotRG

          or because of their leftist crazed idiology

          • porkchop6209

            And fire them if it doesn’t work……just sayin’.

      • porkchop6209

        Like Rodney Carrington says “Maybe if you put some …ketchup…. on it……..”

    • QWYS (Hydralisk of the Swarm)

      Well, Solyndra velocity at least.

      • porkchop6209

        A solar powered website…..that’s rich right there. ROTFLMAO!

  • Juan Pablo

    The tyranny of low expectations. A party that put forward Odummy as candidate for president isn’t “nuanced” enough to be appalled by healthcare.gov

    • Patriot077

      This has me laughing – hard! Very well done!

    • porkchop6209

      Mediocrity at it’s pinnacle!

    • bidaho

      We survived Bush. You will survive Obama. He’s a lot of things, but even his political enemies tend to admit that a Harvard Law grad who taught constitutional law for 10 years at the University of Chicago while practicing law and serving in the Illinois statehouse before serving a term in the US Senate and getting elected to the most powerful office in the world in a landslide election…. very likely isn’t a dummy.

      • Juan Pablo

        The guy known as te dumbest and laziest teacher at Harvard? The guy who never published as he headed Harvard law review? The affirmative action acceptance into Harvard? The utter lack of accomplishment at life other than signing people up for welfare? Sponsoring no major legislation in his lifetime in the legislature? The guy who was only elected because guilty white liberals needed to voted for an unaccomplished black man so they could prove they weren’t racist?

  • Al’s Sad Grampa ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    Dear Obamacare Website,

    Nickname is one word.

    Sincerely,

    The English language

    • carmenta

      Thank you. Do you do websites? :)

      • Al’s Sad Grampa ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        Me? Good heavens no. I’m afraid of computers. My participation here is based on the availability of my legal assistant. I dictate; she posts.

        • $1014973

          In that case, congratulations , you are hired to run the website by the obama administration

        • porkchop6209

          Do you do lawsuits, too? Good, please start with this debacle first. Just tell them how much you think you will need to complete the lawsuit, they will send a check post haste and reconcile with you at a later date. “Dear Mr. Haycock, Please note we are retaining your services to sue us for negligence…..”

          • Al’s Not So Sad Grampa

            I rarely do litigation, but I can draft a contract for future services. I’ll just add a provision that my client (me) get paid whether or not services are provided.

    • porkchop6209

      Dear, Oh Hell!, why bother….English Syntax For Dummies called, they want their website back.

  • trixiewoobeans

    Well hey, as long as the Obama’s friends and cronies got rich off this (and they did), it’s all good on PlanetDemocrammit.

  • http://steamcommunity.com/id/pwag42 Swagner

    “Identity theft as performance art”? I’ll admit, if I thought there’s a chance I could win a lawsuit against the fed, I’d sign right up! ALL ABOARD THE CLASS-ACTION SUIT TRAIN!

    • porkchop6209

      Come well dressed……

      • porkchop6209

        Opppsssss…….too fast…..derailed at the first turn, just like the Metro. Get a casualty list……now ignore it…….they’re not really dead and injured, just inflicted with sub-standard living…….
        Now, to any of the victims and families of the actual accident, you have my deepest condolences. I know what I wrote is in poor taste, still though, I had to. You’ve been in my prayers since I first heard of the derailment. I hope you sue the living daylights out of them.

  • macofromoc

    it’s shocking that Marxism/Socialism never succeeds

    • soxfan4evah

      It’s only because Obama is not the right vassal, give Hillary a chance.

      2016 Campaign slogan FML

    • bidaho

      Good thing Obamacare is neither, then. It stands a chance.

  • H50 ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    Sorry mark, but there were 50K staffers using the site today. There was no room for you buddy.

    Ya picked a bad day to stop sniffing glue. (ala Airplane)

    • porkchop6209

      You picked a bad day to stop taking methamphetamines.

      • porkchop6209

        There’s a sale at Penny’s!

        • porkchop6209

          Check the RadarRange, see how much time we have left….

          • porkchop6209

            {Press Corps} Let’s take some pictures! (all of Obama, of course…)

      • H50 ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        And drinking….

  • MNWoman

    So much for the user friendly, “it’s so easy to enroll in Obamacare” website.

    Imagine all the things they could have spent $600 million of taxpayer dollars on.

    They could have *gasp* staffed the other wise un-staffed veteran memorials during the shutdown.

    • $71605537

      Had they just come up with a plan to simply pay for insurance for the 30 million they claim didn’t have it … give them each a $5,000 a year plan.. it would have cost us 150 billion a year … compared to the ACA which is already costing us over 300 billion a year and which will continue to go up in costs.

      As for the website, the hackers have come out and said there was no security at all built into the site. All those people that put in their information have been totally exposed to hackers. Wait till the 10s of thousands start wailing about identity theft….

      • Guest

        You! To the head of the class, sir or ma’am.

      • MNWoman

        If I recall correctly, you are from MN, right?

        I got an email from Klobuchar today defending Obamacare. She said the healthcare. gov site disaster was inexcusable but promoted the success of MNSure. I wouldn’t ever trust either exchange.

        She tried saying she always said Obamacare would be a “work in progress” with improvements always being made. Bull$h!t.

        • zdomain

          Yes, MNsure, the only website that gets weekends and holidays off. Must be a union site.

        • Ya Dont Say?

          Franken is TOAST…it will be hard to upset Amy’s D-onkey cart, however, I am going to ENJOY trying.

      • porkchop6209

        Then they can sue…..and we can pay for that, too. See how that wealth redistribution works?

      • bidaho

        The tea partiers heads would have EXPLODED if they had actually tried to go with single payer. This is the last best hope for private insurance.

        • $71605537

          The only hope for private insurance is the free market. Obamacare was designed to fail so that it would lead the left to single payer.

          • bidaho

            It was designed to be exactly like Romneycare in Massachusetts, which has some problems but also hasn’t “failed”, 7 years later. What you’re saying sounds a lot like a conspiracy theory.

            This whole program is a HUGE handout to private insurance. New revenues for theses companies are collectively projected to be massive. This analysis is from Forbes, a fairly conservative and reliable source:

            http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapsen/2013/10/26/despite-glitches-obamacare-profit-windfall-to-insurers-well-underway/

          • $71605537

            Romneycare is failing .. the only reason it hasn’t yet is that it’s a smaller scale. 50% of Romneycare funding came from Medicaid… which raised taxes on all 50 states to pay for… and it’s now bankrupting MA. They’ve already had to cut services and kick people off of insurance in some cases to try and cut costs.

            Romneycare and Obamacare are nothing more than wealth redistribution programs designed to eliminate most insurance and leave us with only a few major insurers… just like Dodd Frank is doing to banks. It’s all about eliminating the little guys.

            Obamacare will fail because healthy people won’t pay the premiums, they’ll pay the fine instead and then get insurance or go to the ER once they get sick or hurt. That will drive prices so high that insurance will collapse leaving the government to say we need single payer.

            Socialized medicine (and anything else socialized) will always fail because there is no actual means to control costs. The only way they can is to ration care, just ask the Brits and Canadians about that.

          • bidaho

            After Romneycare was instituted, the number of insurers doing business in MA went up, not down. The same is happening across the country. For example, here in Idaho, because of Obamacare we got two new insurers this year and another coming online next year, a nonprofit co-op run out of Montana.

            Additionally, we already have just a few insurers. You can go around the country and see all these “Blue Cross of Nebraska”, “Blue Cross of Florida”…. under the hood, they are all being run by United Healthcare, Wellpoint, and a couple others. Obamacare provides a mechanism for co-ops like the one I mentioned before to jump into the market and try to do it better, cheaper. With the 80/20 rule in place on insurers now, the ones that can’t change their practices enough to survive in this new market are going to die, replaced by new companies that can play by these rules and still make money. This is going to be a HUGE win for competition in the insurance market.

            True, healthy people are probably going to hesitate to buy insurance with high premiums. If the subsidies aren’t sweet enough, they won’t buy, and the law will suffer. The experiment in Massachusetts, for whatever its failings, does suggest that eventually young people do buy in. If Obamacare fails, it’ll probably be for other reasons, is my guess.

            As for care rationing, look around you: it’s happening already. With your current insurance, if you require care, you get the services your insurer will pay for, from the doctors in their network. Anything else is coming out of your pocket, full price or out-of-network prices. And we routinely wait for appointments, just like they do in Canada — if you’re a new patient, most doctors around here have 4 to 6 week minimum waiting lists to get an appointment.

          • $71605537

            So when the list of insurers in other states goes from 4 or 5 to 1 .. that’s more not less? I guess when I learned math 1 and 2 were always less than 4 and 5. Or when a person had upwards of 40 or more choices for policies before ACA but now has just 4 , that’s “more” by your math right???

            Ask yourself WHY there are waiting lists… you might just figure it out then. Doctors aren’t going to work for free… so a lot of people that wanted to be doctors chose to do something else instead because of all the onerous regulations imposed by government.

            Then if you want to see the real solution, go look at the Surgery Center of Oklahoma…. 20% of the cost of other hospitals/clinics with top quality care. Why? Because they don’t take Medicare or Medicaid so they can post their prices right online and if you pay cash, they don’t have to hire extra people to deal with all the insurance regulations. Government is the problem, the free market is the solution. Romney’s plan made MA insurance the highest in the nation (until Obamacare) … you can argue for government involvement until your blue in the face but it’ll NEVER be cheaper or better quality than the Free Market system.

          • bidaho

            ” if you pay cash, they don’t have to hire extra people to deal with all the insurance regulations.”

            What if you don’t have the money but still need the care? Even at the drastically reduced prices, what if you still can’t afford it? Or what if you have a chronic or terminal illness, and will require months of hospitalization, or years of treatment? You got laid off from your job and couldn’t afford COBRA, you tried to get insurance on the individual market but got denied. You don’t qualify for Medicare because you’re too young, and you don’t qualify for Medicaid because you aren’t poor enough or disabled. You’re uninsured. Now what?

            The free market is by far the best way to provide health care to America. But it needs a little help by way of government regulation. That’s what the ACA does.

            Regarding the cost of insurance — look beyond the premiums. The real cost of insurance is your out-of-pocket cost that includes all your premiums, all your deductible payments, all your copays, and all your coinsurance payments. Check out the results here: http://www.healthdig.info/

          • $71605537

            Read their prices… for everything but the most drastic of procedures, pretty much every one could come up with the cash to pay for it. And that’s why Catastrophic Coverage policies should exist… to cover those things that would bankrupt you (heart attack, cancer, or some other major illness).

            Regulation INCREASES costs of insurance. Why can’t you people understand that??? When you mandate what is to be covered or who is to be covered, it MUST drive prices up. In a free market system prices would be so low that everyone could afford to have a “major medical” insurance plan even if they have a “pre-existing” condition. That’s because insurance would become insurance again where it’s only used RARELY instead of every single time you go to the doctor.

            As for your claim on costs.. ACA drastically INCREASES those costs with much higher deductibles, ZERO out of network coverage in most cases(with a MUCH smaller network as well). The out of pocket costs for most people will be a LOT higher under Obamacare than what they had before.

            As I said, it would have been 50% (or more) cheaper to just provide uninsured people with a policy paid for by the govt than what they did with Obamacare. (150 billion a year vs 300+ billion). Obamacare is an unmitigated disaster that will destroy the insurance industry and the healthcare industry while collapsing the economy even faster. The math is not on your side.

          • bidaho

            Let’s ignore for the moment that you’re an anarcho-capitalist who keeps arguing for single-payer. I mean, we could just stop arguing right there. I agree. Single payer that provides adequate catastrophic coverage, decent preventative care, and very tight cost controls would probably solve the problem really, really quickly. It would also destroy the private insurance industry, same as you are claiming Obamacare will, despite the insurance industry’s own projections showing a massive windfall in progress. Please tell me how you reconcile arguing, on the one hand, for a system that would destroy private insurance while, on the other hand, lambasting Obamacare for supposedly being on the verge of destroying same, any day now.

            Let’s also ignore that you just referred to me as “you people.” Heh. That was a joke :)

            Let’s ignore all that and address what you say about regulation increasing the cost of insurance. I AGREE. You are RIGHT. So what we have here is a fundamental disagreement about what people have the right to expect. I believe people have a right to health insurance, whether it’s on the free market or provided by the government. It sounds like you believe people should have a choice in that regard. Okay.

            But you’re ignoring the fact that given a choice, healthy people probably won’t buy insurance, even if it’s really affordable. And those people do eventually end up requiring care. That’s what Romneycare/Obamacare addresses with its mandates.

            Finally, please please please look at my website, http://healthdig.info — what you’re saying about higher deductibles and higher out-of-pocket costs is false. I have a case study from my own situation written up with full dollar amounts showing a massive savings.

          • $71605537

            Another logical fallacy… I’m not arguing for single payer, I’m arguing for the exact opposite, the free market.

            The free market has nothing to do with destroying the insurance market, it allows it to flourish and allows for much more competition which drives prices down. So your entire statement is null and void right there.

            Where you fall down is your belief in people having a “right” to something that would have to be provided by someone else… that was known by different term back in the day… slavery. No person has a “right” to something that another person would be forced to provide. That’s why medical care isn’t a right, insurance isn’t a right, etc etc. If medical care was a right, you’d literally be able to send a police offer to drag a doctor or nurse out of their home at gunpoint and force them to treat you… after all, it’s your right correct???

            Now about people not buying insurance and needing care… that’s why there’s this little thing called personal responsibility. If you don’t want to be responsible for yourself, then you can simply die. No one should ever be forced to care for you when you’re too irresponsible to do so yourself. That’s why EMTALA should be repealed… hospitals shouldn’t be forced to treat people that can’t pay if they don’t want to, that’s the job of charitable hospitals. That’s another reason why healthcare is so expensive. A problem created by government that they’re now trying to solve with even more bad laws.

            Your own case study may be lower costs.. but so far the majority of cases I’ve seen and that have been reported on show that deductibles are much higher, premiums are much higher, policy choices are drastically reduced, the “network” is much much smaller (as doctors and hospitals refuse to participate or can’t), and most of the policies I’ve seen so far offer zero coverage for out of network care. There will always be a small number of cases where that data shows the opposite, especially when you’re looking at millions of individual cases. You’re also ignoring all the subsidies that ALL taxpayers are now on the hook for because of this law. So not only are premiums going up, so are your taxes.

            The fundamental difference here is you want to steal what belongs to me so that others can take it for being irresponsible. You want to grant “rights” that don’t exist to people because you feel it’s the right thing to do (compassionate). You want to remove all personal responsibility from people and let them rely solely on government for everything. You believe in Socialism/Marxism/Communism/Fascism (pick your favorite form of tyranny/Command and control) and I believe in Freedom and Liberty and personal responsibility.

            And FYI, the things you’re arguing about have little to do with the cost of health care and health insurance. It’s the government supported monopolies that are the major problem in this nation.

    • Jay Stevens

      They did staff the veteran memorials – with NPS officials to prevent entry.

    • porkchop6209

      They could have spent $600 million on helping us get out of debt…….White House?…….Jay?……chirp…chirp,chirp…..

      • bidaho

        Most of our “debt” is money we’ve lent to ourselves. Every year, Social Security runs a *massive* surplus. The SSA invests that surplus in US Treasuries, which add to the debt because the SSA needs to get paid back. This is known as the “Social Security Trust Fund”.

        Same thing with the Federal Reserve. Tons of treasuries are held by our own central bank.

        The Federal Reserve and intergovernmental holdings like the SSA trust fund collectively account for half of all US sovereign debt. The other half is split up among foreign central banks (China, Brazil, etc) who need to put some of their reserves in our stable currency (which helps solidify our currency’s world-reserve status, which is very important for us) and other private/institutional holders.

        Deficits are adding to the debt, but that doesn’t automatically mean that either are the most important problem facing our country. I’m not saying they aren’t, but most serious economists are not panicking about the debt or deficits.

  • MNWoman

    After reading through this, I just had a thought… the person/people who will likely benefit the most from Obamacare are the Life-Lock or other Identity Protection companies/owners.

    • DutyFirst

      If they are publicly traded companies, the money trails might be interesting to follow

  • Canadian in USA ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    I hope he signs up for Lifelock after this.

  • DwellsInFire

    Perhaps nobody noticed, but besides the site working horribly, the programmers aren’t even proof reading their messages to the user which shows how sloppy they’re being, such as this one…
    “We’ll give you your eligibility results after verify your identity”. I think proper grammar would require either “we verify” or “verifying” in that sentence.

    • Michelle ✓classified

      I saw that. Another one is “We’ll give you your…” isn’t professional. That should read, “We’ll provide your…”

      I also caught this one. Do you see the punctuation error?

      • evilsandmich

        I’d guess the double comma on ‘or’; however the kicker is the fact that the choices don’t really relate to the question being posed.

      • porkchop6209

        Obama(pulling website into shop to get it looked at): “It’s got this clankiness to it, like it hasn’t had enough money spent on it yet to make it run “like new” since I got it from the dealer last week. Are you going to be long? I need to sell it now.” Hi Michelle!

        • Michelle ✓classified

          Bwahahaha! Funny stuff! Hi porkchop!

      • DwellsInFire

        I’m not sure I see a problem here. The double comma “, or,” is a bit odd, but they may have intended that kind of pause.

        • Michelle ✓classified

          Yes, the double comma is the punctuation error. Doesn’t matter if they intended that kind of pause (that kind of pause doesn’t exist), it’s incorrect and unprofessional.

    • Kaya Hund

      I bet “surge” tech team members are living on coffee, No Doz, and energy drinks.

      • porkchop6209

        And armed IRS agents leaning over their shoulders giving them stern, disapproving looks……..White House?………..Jay?………..anyone?…….chirp…..chirp,chirp…..

  • heinleiners

    Site worked good for me. Just found out that a Little Rock, Arkansas family of four earning that state’s median income of $40,000 a year could get a Silver level health insurance plan for $163 a month.

    • grais

      Seriously?

    • QWYS (Hydralisk of the Swarm)

      That is very odd, Arkansas has a state exchange website. What were you doing on healthcare.gov?

      http://www.healthinsurance.org/arkansas-state-health-insurance-exchange/

      And the best plan it would give me was $809/month.

      4 member family, children born after 1999, no tobacco use

      • heinleiners

        silver plan, fool

        • JohnLew

          The Silver Plans start at $853 in Pulaski County for a family of 4, no tobacco use.

          Now, you may be trying to tell us that the subsidized cost is $163 (which I highly doubt, btw) but even if that’s the case… THE PLAN STILL COSTS $853, you just may not be paying for it.

          Family of 4 costs in Arkansas are about 25% higher than they were pre-Obamacare. Worth it?

          https://www.healthcare.gov/find-premium-estimates/#results/&aud=indv&type=med&state=AR&county=Pulaski&age0=35&age1=35&age2=5&age3=5

        • Michelle ✓classified

          I went on the exchange for Arkansas, put in family of four (two kids), Pulaski County, Silver plan – all of them were over $800.

          • heinleiners

            gotta subtract for the subsidy – use Kaiser premium subsidy calculator at http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/

          • QWYS (Hydralisk of the Swarm)

            No you do not, let’s actually look at what you are paying and what someone else is paying. You realize that median income is no where near the average, and in the end you are just stealing from others.

            That is not going to end well.

          • QWYS (Hydralisk of the Swarm)

            Oh look, I got a down vote for the truth, I wonder what tool did this?

          • bidaho

            “median income is nowhere near the average”

            LOL

          • Michelle ✓classified

            Oh, that’s right. Gotta figure in the tax payer provided subsidy. I was thinking the two adults who chose to have two kids might ya know, be responsible enough to support themselves. My bad.

          • heinleiners

            Same tax free subsidy that an employee gets when his employer pays for 2/3rds of his health insurance. Any responsible person who has ever had a job should know that. Try getting one sometime, then get laid off and see how much COBRA costs you keep your insurance without your employer subsidizing you.

          • Michelle ✓classified

            I think you oughta learn that the US taxpayer is not that family’s employer. The healthcare I get via my employer is, get this, part of my compensation package for the work I perform. The fact that you don’t understand the difference let’s me know you’re yappin’ just to yap. Have a good night, skippy.

          • heinleiners

            there is no difference under Obamacare anymore.
            Duh.
            Obtain at least a basic knowledge of the ACA law before trying to discuss and it might work out better for you.

          • bidaho

            Another way of looking at it is that your insurance from your employer is part of an employee-retention racket that business has been running for the past 50+ years.

            Under the ACA, you are now free to leave your job if you so choose without worrying about what you’ll do for health insurance. You can go on the exchange and you’ll probably qualify for a subsidy. Now you can start a small business and not have to worry about getting sick and going bankrupt because you had no insurance or the crummy insurance you used to be able to buy as an individual.

            I run a small business. I know firsthand.

          • porkchop6209

            Except in our world, your productivity as you WORK producing a tangible product or service in a capitalistic, free market enterprise system helps produce a profit margin from which said revenues are derived to cover the difference. Welcome to Business Economics 101, your platitudes are greatly appreciated. Hopefully, I can get a trophy for participating today. At least that’s how it works in our businesses. QWYS?

          • porkchop6209

            Sorry Michelle-the Obammidiots are trolling today. Don’t get dragged down in their wake.

          • Michelle ✓classified

            Hi you – there never drag me down, I honestly find them amusing (and sad). I eventually grow bored with the same troll and end the convo by not reading any more of their replies, but they persist…I keep getting notifications that I ignore *snort*

          • bidaho

            When me and my wife responsibly choose to insure ourselves, and our deadbeat conservative neighbors choose not to, it’s my premiums and out-of-pocket dollars that pay for their trip to the emergency room.

            In case you’re wondering, which I’m sure you’re not, the reason emergency rooms can’t turn anyone away, even if they can’t pay, is because of a Reagan-era law called EMTALA, part of the same law that created COBRA.

            It’s essentially an unfunded mandate and is partly responsible for how messed up our healthcare costs are. The ACA, by instituting the individual and employer mandates, is addressing this loophole by recognizing that everyone will eventually “participate” in the healthcare market, whether they “choose” to or not.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Act

          • Michelle ✓classified

            I wasn’t wondering about anything, I’m very well educated on the law – I was raised by a healthcare professional. I am also well aware of that law because I live in Los Angeles, a haven for illegal immigrants. What do illegal immigrants have to do with this conversation? Well, turns out they are also aware of that law and take full advantage of it. If you’re ever in Los Angeles, I encourage you to spend time sitting in an ER waiting room. More often than not, you will find them full of non-English speaking people who are their either for their children or themselves to get treatment for something as innocuous and non-life threatening as the common cold. And because they don’t have Social Security Numbers (and rarely provide their real names), they use the ER as a primary care physician for minor bumps, scrapes and colds…and walk away without any concern about payment and neither do they pay any consequences by having a bad mark on their credit rating because they don’t have one.

            An alarming number of emergency rooms and trauma centers in Los Angeles have closed down over the decades due to the cost of treating these illegal immigrants who never pay their bill.

            And taking into consideration the fact that the Dems have promised that illegal immigrants aren’t eligible for Obamacare, that means they will remain uninsured and will still abuse our ERs, and never pay the bill. But ya know, the Left keeps trying to tell us they bring so much to this country!

            I find it interesting that folks like you place the blame on fellow Americans and not where the bulk of the problem lies. Are you pro-illegal immigrant?

          • bidaho

            We are both overestimating how much of the problem comes from people ending up in the emergency room. It’s a cause, but not the only cause, of rising healthcare costs. Lack of cost controls is a much bigger problem:

            http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/03/health/as-hospital-costs-soar-single-stitch-tops-500.html?_r=0

            (Incidentally, this is one place where single payer shines.)

            That being said, I do not consider myself pro- or anti- immigrant. I’m pro-America. At the moment, we have a broken immigration system, marred with inefficiencies. We need a policy that minimizes the number of people who come to the country with no intent to work. At the same time we need a policy that isn’t so hostile to immigration that we can’t get the cheap labor that American industry, particularly our farming industry, relies on.

            I’m not saying freeloaders don’t make me mad, they most certainly do. But I’d be at peace knowing that we have a policy that keeps the number of people actually doing that small enough to not really matter, except maybe on principle. It would still bother me that it’s happening, but hey it bothers me that the Mets suck too. When the Mets lose, it bothers me but doesn’t affect my livelihood.

            If Dems and Republicans can get together on comprehensive immigration reform, I think we can take a big step toward that.

            BTW I’m looking around for info on the amendment in the PPACA that forbids coverage to immigrants. I found the clause but I don’t know how it got in there. I’d like to know whether that was a Democratic or Republicain amendment.

          • porkchop6209

            Oh yea, those taxpayer dollars the National debt is lined up to work it’s way to, eventually, sometime in the future, after the other 17 trillion gets paid first. Wait a minute, that was Michelle’s money, Dr. Razorback. Dang Skippy, I love this new Common Core Obama Math, but as long as you tried I guess…..

          • bidaho

            No right-wing cluster is complete without someone having no idea how sovereign debt works. Nicely done.

          • Ronald Green

            Sounds like somebody isn’t telling the truth again. Especially when they come in with insults to emphasis their superiority. What cha think?

        • QWYS (Hydralisk of the Swarm)

          And why is that, it is the only choice I had. There were/are an consumer plan (basically a HMO) and more standard PPO, both of which were silver plans.

          So, I am a fool why? Do you actually understand the differences between the various plan levels are? I doubt it.

          • heinleiners

            yawn – you can lead ’em to water but can’t make ’em think.

          • opus6

            Yes, but you are not leading them to water. You are leading them to something else….

          • porkchop6209

            “We’re gonna draw ‘im in, draw ‘im in to the shallows, draw ‘im in and drown ‘im. The taxidermy gonna have a heart attack(not covered by the ACA, of course) when he see’s what I brung him!” Robert Shaw as Capt. Quint in Jaws.

          • Right Wired ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            If you could only comprehend how hysterical that is, coming from a brain washed socialist commie pinko who leeches off others, and does not have the sense to realize that before Pol Pot and Stalin murdered millions, they put a socialist government into place.

          • porkchop6209

            He won’t realize that until the epiphany moment between dragging him and his family into the street and the bullet starting to enter his head. ACA won’t help ya then! Just ask any Chinese dissident…..Oh Wait-you can’t, they’re all dead!

          • porkchop6209

            You’re an arrogant, condescending prick, just like your DaddyBoy Leader.

          • heinleiners

            Wow – being a factless loser sure does make you touchy,eh? Rave on – but buy some insurance first please so I don’t have to pay for your heart attack when you show up at the ER

    • bidaho

      Everything you need to know about who this blog was written for, and who’s reading it, can be seen by the fact that this guy got downvoted for saying the site worked okay for him. Guys, rooting against people getting health insurance is pretty much the worst kind of partisanship I can imagine.

      By the way, I successfully bought insurance on Healthcare.gov weeks ago. I had some problems but I got through it. They’ll work through these glitches eventually. People will get insurance and life will go on.

      • Ronald Green

        Go cry some where else.

        • bidaho

          If Mitt Romney had been elected in 2008 you’d have the same law, with the same website, built by the same bunch of government teet-suckling contractors (Romney IS a consultant) and you’d be writing on blogs about how this law is a triumph of using the free market to fix health insurance.

          Partisanship and petty tribal politics.

          • QWYS (Hydralisk of the Swarm)

            And you know this how? You libtards are all the same, talking points or supposition No truth, ever.

          • Michelle ✓classified

            Absolutely not true. Romney said over and over and over again that healthcare laws should be decided at the state level, not the Federal level.

          • Ronald Green

            Typical lib. You think you know what everyone thinks and what’s best for everybody else. But you don’t know me and your supposition is false because, if you paid attention to the messages both candidates were putting out, only Obuttmuch wanted this crap. Romney said he wouldn’t do it as he felt it was a State issue.

          • bidaho

            No. In 2012 he ran against it, because it was the Republican thing to do. In 2008, Romney ran for President promoting his Massachusetts plan as a conservative, proven, free-market fix for America’s healthcare system. In fact, while Obamacare was being marked up in 2009, Romney was still advocating for Romneycare as the model Obama should use:

            http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/mitt-romneys-advice-for-obamacare-look-at-romney

          • Ronald Green

            sorry but sourcing a liberal blog doesn’t win you any points.

            You honestly cannot make your claim as there is no way to know what Romney would or would not have done. Your allegation is pure conjecture at it’s worst. But hey, your LIV friends will believe anything like that because they want to believe it.

            The deluded are so easily led, aren’t they.

            So unless you have Aladdin’s crystal ball and can see what might have been, your allegation is just that, an unsubstantiated allegation that cannot be proven or dis-proven and borders on libel.

          • heinleiners

            You’re right. The Federal Contracting process is a disgrace. Congress should fix it….. before hell freezes over.

          • porkchop6209

            I vote to throw out the whole Kit and Kaboodle and start over, and I mean all of it too.

          • bidaho

            Great. Can we have single-payer then?

          • Dawn – Naturally Texan

            well I agree we’d have much the same but not that I’d be happy about it or lying to promote it. no… we were set up with only two election choices that ended up with us destroying healthcare and while Romney condoned or committed voting fraud in the RNC it can’t even compare to the hacking of democracy that made sure Obama was elected. Romney with his version was just the back up plan.

      • Dawn – Naturally Texan

        how did you buy it when they admitted today the payment segment of coding isn’t even built yet?

        • bidaho

          You don’t currently pay through healthcare.gov. You get a letter from the insurance company a couple weeks later asking for the first payment. That’s how the system is set up. I got two letters within a week of each other — one for dental, one for medical. Just made my first payments today. Not the smoothest experience but it worked.

          I have no idea whether they are planning on making it so you can make your first payment through healthcare.gov. That would be cool, I guess, but doesn’t matter to me.

      • Right Wired ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        hey, this is the part where you need to say:

        “Thanks, working middle class, for busting your a$$ and making the right life choices so I can screw off and leech off you.”

        • bidaho

          I am a middle class, small business owner in a red state. I do not qualify for a subsidy. Statistically speaking, actually, there’s a good chance I may be subsidizing you.

      • porkchop6209

        And you’ve “actually” paid “How Much” for it now?

  • QWYS (Hydralisk of the Swarm)

    The phrase, “Doomed I tell you, doomed!” Comes to mind. I have been developing large scale distributed transaction systems with Web-based front ends for since or say 1996 or so. They could have payed me a mere $60M, plus the costs for building the three data centers and it would have been done. I would have hired 10 of my friends at oh $1.5M each.

    This entire debacle and the idiot posting on twitter is proof of why it is never going to work … ever.

    • porkchop6209

      Ditto!

  • John Ansell

    I’m seeing all these ads on t.v. (that we paid for)
    promoting Obamacare. Is it not passed
    the point to where we can sue for false advertising?

  • incorrectchange

    all this money wasted.. and we may not be able to afford to keep stateside Commissaries open. I’m so glad we have the lefties to hold down the fort. /end sarcasm.

  • incorrectchange

    To think that navigating a govt. site is now a blogging hobby. It should be at most a twenty minute little task on a to-do list. o.O

  • AmericanMom

    If they hired Cher (who seems to have a lot of time on her hands posting how frustrated she is) to work for Obamacare, people would see the messages she sends (try to disregard the vulgarity she’s used) because she always types her need for attention by using caps.

    • Axelgreaser

      I wonder if the elderly actress and basso chantoosie Cher has signed up for Obama Care yet, thus divulging her entire health history, who she’s slept with, etc., her social security number, et al, for every hacker on the planet to rifle thru? As a senior citizen, she would certainly feel more secure in case she cannot depend on her two boys, should she fracture a hip getting in and out of her thong while tweeting (it’s called ‘Thong Tweeting’) now that she’s likely near sighted and infirmed in other ways at 68. And OLD. She’s over the moon for Obama and Obama Care, besotted I’d say, so surely she’s signed on. LOL!

      • AmericanMom

        She is elderly and from her recent posts, possibly with a degree of dementia. Does it appear either of her two sons will personally take care of her when she’s wheeled off to a senior home? Naw, that’ll be Barrack and when he’s gone through her stash of money for himself, he’ll assign the death panels to her as well as us.

      • porkchop6209

        Let’s see, we know of Sonny…………I’m sure there is a list…….now where did I put it……

  • Lamontyoubigdummy

    Enjoy your audit Mr. Jaquith.

  • sec818

    probably lower than 60%…

  • Ronald Green

    Yep, pretty sad that even the developer can’t get it to work. And the Dems think their low info constituents will be able to do this? That is funny.

  • Jack Deth

    Sixth Rule of Combat:

    “If you are advancing too quickly… It’s an ambush!”

    Seventh Rule of Combat:

    “If you are advancing too slowly. Someone’s calling in Artillery!”

    Eighth Rule of Combat:

    “Friendly Fire isn’t!”

    • porkchop6209

      If the enemy is in range, so are you.
      Mechanical engineers build weapons, civil engineers build targets.

  • Maxx

    Allow me a moment of elasticity.

    “Up in their white domed centre,
    hell bent or heaven sent,
    listen to the propaganda,
    listen to their latest slander.
    There’s nothing underhand
    that Obama bots wouldn’t understand.

    Pump it up…

    …until they can feel it.”

    • Axelgreaser

      Wonderful! :)

    • porkchop6209

      I’m feelin’ some ‘DRE!

  • SoCalKen99

    For those that are conspiracy theory minded:

    The GOP needs to stop calling ObamaCare a “trainwreck.” That means it’s a mistake, or accident. That means it’s a gigantic flop, or failure. It’s NOT. Message to the GOP: This isn’t a game. This isn’t tiddly-winks. This is a serious, purposeful attempt to highjack America and destroy capitalism. This is a brilliant, cynical, and purposeful attempt to damage the U.S. economy, kill jobs, and bring down capitalism. It’s not a failure, it’s Obama’s grand success.
    It’s not a “trainwreck,” ObamaCare is a suicide attack. He wants to hurt us, to bring us to our knees, to capitulate- so we agree under duress to accept big government. Obama’s hero and mentor was Saul Alinsky — a radical Marxist intent on destroying capitalism. Alinksky’s stated advice was to call the other guy “a terrorist” to hide your own intentions. To scream that the other guy is “ruining America,” while you are the one actually plotting the destruction of America. To claim again and again…in every sentence of every speech…that you are “saving the middle class,” while you are busy wiping out the middle class.
    The GOP is so stupid they can’t see it. There are no mistakes here. This is a planned purposeful attack. The tell-tale sign isn’t the disastrous start to ObamaCare. Or the devastating effect the new taxes are having on the economy. Or the death of full-time jobs. Or the overwhelming debt. Or the dramatic increases in health insurance rates. Or the 70% of doctors now thinking of retiring- bringing on a healthcare crisis of unimaginable proportions. Forget all that.
    The real sign that this is a purposeful attack upon capitalism is how many Obama administration members and Democratic Congressmen are openly calling Tea Party Republicans and anyone who wants to stop ObamaCare “terrorists.” There’s the clue. Even the clueless GOP should be able to see that. They are calling the reasonable people…the patriots…the people who believe in the Constitution … the people who believe exactly what the Founding Fathers believed…the people who want to take power away from corrupt politicians who have put America $17 trillion in debt…terrorists? That’s because they are Saul Alinsky-ing the GOP. The people trying to purposely hurt America, capitalism and the middle class…are calling the patriots by a terrible name to fool, confuse and distract the public.
    ObamaCare is a raving, rollicking, fantastic success. Stop calling it a failure. Here is what it was created to do. It is succeeding on all counts:
    1. ObamaCare was intended to bring about the Marxist dream — redistribution of wealth. Rich people, small business owners, and the middle class are being robbed, so that the money can be redistributed to poor people (who vote for Democrats). Think about it. If you’re rich or middle class, you now have to pay for your own health care costs (at much higher rates) AND 40 million other people’s costs too (through massive tax increases). So you’re stuck paying for both bills. You are left broke. Brilliant.
    2. ObamaCare was intended to wipe out the middle class and make them dependent on government. Think about it. Even Obama’s IRS predicts that health insurance for a typical American family by 2016 will be $20,000 per year. But how would middle class Americans pay that bill and have anything left for food or housing or living? People that make $40K, or $50K, or $60K can’t possibly hope to spend $20K on health insurance without becoming homeless. Bingo. That’s how you make middle class people dependent on government. That’s how you make everyone addicted to government checks. Brilliant.
    3. As a bonus, ObamaCare is intended to kill every decent paying job in the economy, creating only crummy, crappy part-time jobs. Why? Just to make sure the middle class is trapped, with no way out. Just to make sure no one has the $20,000 per year to pay for health insurance, thereby guaranteeing they become wards of the state. Brilliant.
    4. ObamaCare is intended to bankrupt small business, and therefore starve donations to the GOP. Think about it. Do you know a small business owner? I know hundreds of them. Their rates are being doubled, tripled and quadrupled by ObamaCare. Guess who writes 75% of the checks to Republican candidates and conservative causes? Small Business. Even if a small business owner manages to survive, he or she certainly can’t write a big check to the GOP anymore. Money is the “mother’s milk” of politics. Without donations, a political party ceases to exist. Bingo. That’s the point of ObamaCare. Obama is bankrupting his political opposition and drying up donations to the GOP. Brilliant.
    5. ObamaCare is intended to make the IRS all-powerful. It adds thousands of new IRS agents. It puts the IRS in charge of overseeing 15% of the U.S. economy. The IRS has the right because of ObamaCare to snoop into every aspect of your life, to go into your bank accounts, to fine you, to frighten you, to intimidate you. And Obama and his socialist cabal have access to your deepest medical secrets. By law your doctor has to ask your sexual history. That information is now in the hands of Obama and the IRS to blackmail GOP candidates into either not running, or supporting bigger government, or leaking the info and ruining your campaign. Or have you forgotten the IRS harassed, intimidated and persecuted critics of Obama and conservative groups? Now Obama hands the IRS even more power. Big Brother rules our lives. Brilliant.
    6. ObamaCare is intended to unionize 15 million healthcare workers. That produces $15 billion in new union dues. That money goes to fund Democratic candidates and socialist causes — thereby guaranteeing Obama’s friends never lose another election, and Obama’s policies keep ruining capitalism and bankrupting business owners long after he’s out of office.
    Message to the GOP: This isn’t a game. This isn’t tiddly-winks. This is a serious, purposeful attempt to highjack America and destroy capitalism. This isn’t a trainwreck. It’s purposeful suicide. It’s not failing, it’s working exactly according to plan. Obama knows what he’s doing. Stop apologizing and start fighting.

  • Axelgreaser

    ROFLMAO! You gotta love that the Obama incompetents have left the Obama Logo smack in the center of the ‘404’ Error message still adorning their useless, crony infested billion dollar website, while at the same time they’ve scurried around like roaches to school the faithful, ie, the MSM, they’ve comically switched from calling it ‘Obama Care’ to ‘Affordable Care Act’ after 6 years of proudly referring to it by the former as if nobody is supposed to notice this bomb in a wastebasket ‘Obama Care’ has been renamed (like it’s ugly fraud sister ‘Climate Change’ from ‘Global Warming’) and so thereby is no longer attached to the tall jug eared flop that it’s named after.

    • porkchop6209

      Rebranded, sir! And it’s a S#!tBomb, landing a turd near you!

  • Dennis the Dreamer

    Healthcaredotgov is a malware website. Enter your information at your own risk.

  • therantinggeek

    Leftists are, once again, making claims that they “successfully” signed up and enrolled on the ACA site. (Not to name any names…but see below for said example.) I’m still waiting for at least one to respond to my challenge of re-creating your success and post it up on YouTube for all to see. Should be at least maybe a 10- or 20-minute video. Then maybe I’ll believe you.

    • porkchop6209

      And buy insurance TWICE for all of us uninformed masses? Sir! PLEASE!

  • Paul C.

    Security was NEVER built in an expert said it will take at least a year to fix it so enter you private info at your own risk.

  • SPQR9

    This administration is the most incompetent in American history.

  • Alex

    Here’s a good one. I have a 4-year-old son, Michael. For one question I was asked and typed in his birth date. After a series of other questions, I was prompted to answer this one: “Is Michael married?” Priceless!

    • ForTheRepublicOfDave

      I’d have said yes, and given the name of one of Barack Obama’s daughters.

    • porkchop6209

      Does Michael have a dog? Good news! It’s covered!

  • Robert Jackson

    what an absolute fucking joke. A 12 year old could have built a far, far, far superior site. What kind of dimwitted morons built this joke of a joke site?????? What an absolute joke. We should be given the names of the developers so we can PUBLICLY SHAME THESE SHITBAGS. Seriously has anyone who built the site ever built a website before???????

    • porkchop6209

      They could have gotten the little {Oregon,Washington?} girl, who picked all that mistletoe they won’t let her sell, to build it, at least she would have tried.

  • Benjamin Dover

    Each of us must slice through the fog of nonsense conjured up by today’s liberals & progressives: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0094KY878

  • [email protected]

    Healthcare.gov Haiku

    Log on health web site.
    The user waits. Download Slow.
    Like a bad bowel movement.